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There are many other schemes to ''change statuses. People believe the [[Birth registration|Birth Registration]] binds the individual and they even imagine that getting'' or possessing the Certificate or a sealed Certificate can change their status. We should honestly seek to understand the spiritual message found in the [[Gospel of the Kingdom]] and the significance of the meaning of Jesus's prohibition concerning ''calling men of the earth [[Father]]''. The [[Mark of the Beast]] is a form of seal but the seal that people should be concerned with is the [[Mark_of_the_Beast#The_Mark_of_GodMark of God]].
There are many other schemes to ''change statuses.  
 
People believe the [[Birth registration|Birth Registration]] binds the individual and they even imagine that getting or possessing the Certificate or a sealed Certificate can change their status.  
 
We should honestly seek to understand the spiritual message found in the [[Gospel of the Kingdom]] and the significance and the meaning of Jesus's prohibition concerning ''calling men of the earth [[Father]]'',<Ref name="fatherruler">{{fatherruler}}</Ref> and of course the insistence [[Ten Statements|from the beginning]] that though shalt not [[covet]]<Ref name="jesuscovet">{{jesuscovet}}</Ref> anything that is thy neighbors especially through the [[exercise authority|exercising authority]]<Ref name="exauth">{{exauth}}</Ref> of the governments of the [[world]] who want to appear as [[benefactors]] of the people.  
 
The [[Mark of the Beast]] includes a form of seal but the ''mark'' or ''seal'' that people should be concerned with is the [[Mark_of_the_Beast#The_Mark_of_God|Mark of God]].


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"Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch." Matthew 15:14 [1]
“It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble but what you know for sure that just ain't so." This statement attributed to Mark Twain is often far to true with people selling you the answer to the problems of the world. People hear what they want to hear and remember what they want to remember and even see what they want to see.
It is true that “Because of what appears to be a lawful command on the surface, many Citizens, because of their respect for what appears to be law, are cunningly coerced into waiving their rights due to ignorance.” Sims v. Aherns, 271 SW 720 (1925)
It is also true that through covetous practices men will be made merchandise, return to the bondage of Egypt and even curse children as surety for debt.
When you find out that you are those children you must ask, What was Christ's plan to set you free?
"And I will bring the blind by a way [that] they knew not; I will lead them in paths [that] they have not known: I will make darkness light before them, and crooked things straight. These things will I do unto them, and not forsake them." Isaiah 42:16
So what is the Way?
What is the truth that will set you free?
"From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand." Matthew 4:17  : "But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you." Matthew 6:33
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Guru

The word Guru is term for "teacher" or "master" in Sanskrit, particularly found in Indian religions. The Hindu guru-shishya is the oral tradition or religious doctrine or experiential wisdom transmitted from teacher to student.

The guru concept appears in many levels of society. If we imagine someone to be smarter or wiser than us, we may follow their suggestions or directives religiously. When we say religiously we are using the word religion in the sense of the definition "what we think about God or a god" or a supreme or superior being, rather than the primary sense of the word religion being "how we perform our duty to God and our fellow man."

If we make or hold someone up as a guru or expert, what they say takes on a virtual validity in our minds without actual proof or even verification. It can take on an almost sacred aura of validity which may be entirely unwarranted. While a guru may be defined as a teacher or guide that you trust, they may not all be as trustworthy as we would like to believe.

To hold someone up as an authority on any subject is to give them a position of power and power corrupts. Yet, such positions of power and influence are commonly delegated emotionally, if not legally, by people who claim they want to be free despite the truth that such positions of power are, in fact, every dictator's delight and every conman's communion or the despots dream.

We have seen people joining groups on the Network who want what they bring to the group to be accepted. They may not think of themselves as a "guru" but they often bring ideas, philosophies, or concepts that have been touted by other guru types who believed they had "the truth", the secret uncovered solution, the the magic answer.

We have examined many of these claims over many decades. They may have elements of the truth but often find them missing important elements of truth. They may sound good to people desperate for a solution but they may not only fall short of their promised relief they often leave a string of warn-out and devastated souls.

If we do not accept these solutions, legal schemes, or challenge their validity or less than comprehensive approach then they may feel we are attacking them. This is often because they identify with what they think they know or imagine to be true. We care about them and seek the truth. We are willing to have the conversation and believe the truth will set you free.

Your personal knowledge of what you think to be good or evil, right or wrong, true or false should not be a source for your identity.

Because we reject one ideas or ideology does not mean we are rejecting the people who bring them.

The network groups have a Network Purpose and there are Network Guidelines to help people stay focused on the way of Christ. We have an obligation to seek the whole truth and nothing but the truth but we also wish to provide for it.

Love requires that we challenge anything that may do harm to individuals or society in general.

We offer for free numerous websites articles, recordings and free books which attempt to explain The Blessed Strategy of Christ according to His plan and The Way of the early Church, its practice of Pure Religion, and how to gather and do what Christ commanded. Those ways of righteousness not only set the captive free but as a society they survived and thrived during the decline and fall of the world of Rome.

The ancient paths

Jesus was the Highest son of David and the anointed king of Judea which is why they called Him Christ. But his kingdom of God was not of or like the world of Rome. He was also to take the place of John the Baptist if John was killed which made Jesus both High priest and King.
Jesus as the Christ was not like the Fathers of the earth who called themselves Benefactors and made the people live by force, fear, and fealty. If we are to come in the name of Christ we must think differently, becoming doers of the word and learn to live by faith, hope, and charity by sitting down in a network of tens.
“Nothing is more wonderful than the art of being free, but nothing is harder to learn how to use than freedom.” ― Alexis de Tocqueville, Democracy in America
"Have not I written to thee excellent things in counsels and knowledge," Proverbs 22:20

This writing is upon our heart and mind.[2] It is God who gives us His identity through His Holy Spirit as we repent ad seek the kingdom of God and His righteousness.

The problem is not the world but us, and the knowledge we lack.[3] We have forgotten the ancient ways of God which was the Way of Christ and while many are called few have the heart to see the truth of The Way and follow it in fellowship.

"Because my people hath forgotten me, they have burned incense to vanity, and they have caused them to stumble in their ways [from] the ancient paths, to walk in paths, [in] a way not cast up;" Jeremiah 18:15

Many will say the way of salvation or redemption is here or there[4] but Christ told us the answer[5] and gave us the keys[6] to liberty under God.

Christ had His plan, called The Way which was The Blessed Strategy. We were told we would be entangled again in the elements of the world, become merchandise, curse children and become surety for debt. This would be because of covetous practices and abandoning the way, not because of the conspiracies and subterfuge of the world.

We should not think that we can just claim fraud and set ourselves free any more than Adam could exonerate his own failing by blaming the God and the woman He gave Adam.

We cannot save ourselves with the strategies of men nor our own cleverness. We are to repent and turn that repentance into action. To repent is to think differently. We can forgive so that we may be forgiven. We can gather together in patterns of ten to save others as Christ commanded so that we might be saved.[7]

While we do these things Christ told us to do, and walk in His way we may have to pay our "tale of bricks"[8] and even be friends with the unrighteous mammon[9] Christ came to teach us "the art of being free" if we will have ears to hear and eyes to see and become doers of the will of the father.[10]

I sympathize with those who see the present bondage of the world. I empathize with their struggle and pain but salvation is not by endless repetition [11] of words and phrases of the law but by the whole truth of the perfect law of liberty[12] and seeking the righteousness of God which we have neglected.

Are your assemblies[13] rooted in the way of Christ or have you forsaken the gathering together?[14]

The term perfected[15] is associated with the adoption of Moses and redemption.[16]

Moses was adopted into the family of the Pharaoh and Israel was set free by that adoption but they had to follow the leadership of Moses who redeemed them through that adoption. Moses' repentance from the exercising authority as the Pharaoh and his obedience to God opened a door to freedom and redemption from the bondage of Egypt. Jesus as high priest and King laid down his life so that we may also be redeemed if we are willing to repent and seek His kingdom of God and the righteousness of God.

You may not look to those benefactors who exercise authority but have you gathered to become the benefactors who exercise love?

Are your ministers of the Church/ekklesia gathered in the spirits of just men or those that Covet the wages of unrighteousness?

  • "To the general assembly[13] and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect[12]," Hebrews 12:23


Is the ekklesia in one accord doing what Christ commanded and providing a daily ministration based in faith, hope, and charity of the general assembly[13]?

  • "Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was <5048> faith made perfect [12]?" James 2:22


Are the general assembly[13] of the people and the Church keeping the word of Christ according to the law of love?[17]

  • "But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is <5048> the love of God perfected[12]: hereby know we that we are in him." 1 John 2:5

If we will not live by that love, even love our enemies[18] that they might be saved[7], how can we hope for the miracles of God?

If we will not gather as Christ commanded how can we love one another in the meaningful ways of the early Church?

  • "No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected[12] in us... 17 Herein is our love made perfect[12], that we may have boldness in the day of judgment: because as he is, so are we in this world. 18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect[12] in love." 1 John 4:12


  • "I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect[12] in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me. 24
Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world. 25 O righteous Father, the world hath not known thee: but I have known thee, and these have known that thou hast sent me. 26 And I have declared unto them thy name, and will declare it: that the love wherewith thou hast loved me may be in them, and I in them." John 17:23-26


The need

“everybody feels the evil, but no one has courage or energy enough to seek the cure” ― Alexis de Tocqueville, Democracy in America


The truth can drive you mad,

Especially if it means that you've been had.
But is the problem that you've been fooled?
Or is it just to hard to admit you've been bad.
Many choose to remain a cad[19]

People want to come out of Mystery Babylon by Exiting Babylon. But we should be thinking of how to get vavylon out of us. Christ came that the world [[might be saved.

Should we also be Saving Babylon or at least the people in it.

Christ came that the whole world might be saved. We should only pray that their eyes are open so that ours might also may be open even more.

But again people feel to often feel a need to have others see their point of view, to accept their stuff, their ideology. There may be truth in "their stuff", but the Gospel is the whole truth and The Way which is the answer.

We are going to have lots of people who come with their own agenda or baggage in the Network. We do not want to help them carry it. We want to help them set it down.

We need to keep focused so they do not distract the groups and congregants or scare people off with confusion and babble.

We were told we would be snared, entangled in a yoke of bondage, made surety for debt, because of covetous practices. No one can change that without changing the things that got them here.

  • “None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free."[Goethe]

False Redemption

We recently had someone promoting UCC forms as a solution which produced an interesting discussion on one of the Network groups. While he was well informed, there were issues of disagreement. Where us repentance in such a theory.

Our intent is not to disagree and should not be to coerce the thinking of others but to merely bear witness to what we are seeing as the whole truth and congregate as a people to provide for it.

This may lead to a passionate discussion and no one should take offense at the free expression of ideas. But they often do.

I tried to explain that, though we may seem iconoclastic, our intention is to help, not hurt, the individual. Removing the splinters and beams from eyes so that we may see again can be painful.

I also researched them too, along with many other people.

I have personally known many of these "gurus", including George Gordon and have been on stage with him when he was first getting started at the Barrister Inn with Bob Holstrom. Bob Holstrom dropped by and stayed with us every time he returned to the US.

Pieces of the puzzle

We personally know lots of people who have been held up as gurus and geniuses because they have lots of puzzle pieces. Yet, they often had no real solution. Some often con people out of money and/or team up with people who promote their material for personal an emotional support. Many of them are simply repeating things they have seen or been told and want to believe to be true. If you research their claims and information you can often find holes in their plans if you have eyes to see. Yet, people will often cling to what they hear from these gurus with a religious fervor because they want to believe.

There is no perfect answer. The truth is we need to walk in the Spirit of Christ or we will fail.

There are many more on the scene today with lots of ideas and schemes, too numerous to mention here.

Many people deal with law, courts, rights, and offer numerous solutions or procedures in dealing with what appears as injustice in the minds of the people. The strategies differ with the views and opinions of men and women alike:
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Then there the "unknown authors" or those theories with "many authors" or just many names like:
Many others with a plethora of Guru theories may have bits and pieces of truth. They vary in a variety of critical points but all seem to fall short in their approach if we look at the few successes in man's quest for freedom as a society throughout the ages.

I do not even bother keeping a record of them all for there is an endless stream of theories. It is really not about the individuals but about the religious acceptance of what some say is true.

Many of these theories have shady origins and quickly fall apart under real investigation.

It is the religious fervor that is so hard to battle because people cling to arguments that place the blame on others rather than our own actions even though it is our actions that we can do the most about.

Crown Templar

Someone else posted some of Nasara's stuff[20] on a group about the Crown owning everything...

Someone tried to play it down and rightly so. There is some truth in it but, as we know or should know, this problem is rooted much deeper. This has been researched and is refuted at another webpage by Larry Becraft who I also know and, yes, he is a member of the BAR.

I know this Crown Templar stuff was promoted by David Merrill who has had a huge following off and on. He is also called David Merrill Van Pelt. He also goes by SFBFKADVP...

I have never met David but know many who have. I have seen his work for more than a decade. He lived in Colorado and was claiming to be a "private banker" who was feeding the Montana Freeman fiasco. And has been arrested in relation to some of the Freeman checks. He told me once he had a cure for SARS which ended up being the frequencies generated by his "paper work" with a special seal... I ran into him again on an email group that had asked me to participate. At the time, he had a case filed where he appeared to be suing as Christ concerning his moped or scooter. Yet, many followed him and suffered for it.

Land patents claims

Others people over the years have offered land patent information for big money but their claims were lies.

Claims about creating a land patent and issuing it to yourself will not render your land exempt from foreclosure, property taxes, and eminent domain.

In the past I have found those selling something with those types of claims to be absolute charlatans or delusional.

Many take people's money and abandon them when things get "real".

We have also proved their personal claims of success were knowingly false but we were often attacked by those people wanting to believe the "claims" rather than see the truth. The patent peddlers got off with thousands of dollars in fees and people suffered fines and other huge losses.

When we exposed the falseness of their claims no one wanted to believe the facts because they wanted to believe the lie.

In reading case law you have to be cognizant of dates as well as terms like "private person" and "privately" held. Or ALLODIAL TITLE and FEE SIMPLE TITLE which are dependent upon status. Status of the individual once he has been a person does not go away because you claim to bring patent or title "forward".

You cannot undue the legal history of the titles to land nor yourself with paper "hopscotch"[21] filings of flawed legal guru theories.

We have explained the problem and solution in 5 books free online. If people do not want to hear the truth for free they can always find someone who will charge them money to hear the lies they prefer.

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SEDM and Famguardian

I knew some of the people at SEDM in their earliest days. They merged with Family Guardian Website. It does have a huge amount of plagiarized material including my own writings and videos. The Famguardian Site by Chris Hansen who called me many times in the past but some documents seemed falsified on that site. I believe they could get you in a lot of trouble. I do not know what they are all actually doing now. You do not even get to see them. We are very visible and we have thorough information well footnoted.

I do not recommend most of these sites and WARN of misleading content scattered through out. I do not like to gossip about people but I have been around for a long time and have seen lots of people hurt, robbed and misled.

Christ is The Way. We must conform to His truth, His teachings, and He will set us free.

Others

I also knew the "Informer" years ago and he takes you along paths of truth and then makes leaps in logic that will get you in trouble.

I also know Ben Williams, nice guy, who has come and met with me years ago and while he and Lawful Path which is Gregory Allen all have some truth we are trying to take people to the next level and many of these are all rabbit trails from which there is little time to return from and some will get you lost all together.

I was there when Paul Revere and the Embassy of Heaven Church went to court and also at Indianapolis Baptist Temple. Lots of adventures and lessons learned but the Gospel of the Kingdom is simple.


Usurpation or neglect

"Faith is confidence or trust... Do we have real faith in a real God of creation or they have faith in an image of a god created in their mind. Here is a recent recording in response some one's claims about usurpation of the dejure Republic. Good Faith is doing what Christ commanded his followers to do.

The problem today is not that someone has "usurped the de jure Republic, organic Constitution, Rule of Law, Common Law and God's". The problem as it was Told from the beginning is that we would believe a lie and are under a strong delusion and have long since abandoned the way of Christ and His Kingdom of God and certainly His righteousness through sloth, covetous practices, or possibly may be do to some lack of knowledge on our part.

We certainly at times have been the blind leading the blind but blaming others has never been a good start at recovering our senses. There is no advantage in trading one blind guide for another.[22]


The hyphenated person

Someone who has chosen to write his name as "James-anthony robert:" attempted through several means to give Legal Notice to the "Public Secular State Authorities of the United States of America"

This may seem to appear to be a fairly sincere attempt to give notice of a desire to change one's status by altering their name. While changing your name is common when one changes their status, the change in name is only a way to give notice or mark the change. It is not the cause. "James-anthony robert:" also writes that "This is a demand". I would not have added that demand for the same reason I would not accuse the system of the unrighteous mammon of fraud. If they submit to the demand they are admitting to your authority and maybe to the fraud. I would not expect them to accept such a notice.

Sealed and certified

There are many other schemes to change statuses.

People believe the Birth Registration binds the individual and they even imagine that getting or possessing the Certificate or a sealed Certificate can change their status.

We should honestly seek to understand the spiritual message found in the Gospel of the Kingdom and the significance and the meaning of Jesus's prohibition concerning calling men of the earth Father,[23] and of course the insistence from the beginning that though shalt not covet[24] anything that is thy neighbors especially through the exercising authority[25] of the governments of the world who want to appear as benefactors of the people.

The Mark of the Beast includes a form of seal but the mark or seal that people should be concerned with is the Mark of God.

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While, I may sympathize with people who feel the sting of the bondage of the world, I must say that the truth is that this turning people into possessions for generations was the result of the choices and participation as we see in the Bondage of Egypt and the brothers of Joseph is not new. Their bondage, like the kingdom of God, passes from generation to generation and so past to their children.

So, it is reasonable to assume that people have become merchandise through covetous practices of their parents for decades. We explain this is an ancient process accepted in international and even natural law because people are applying to the state as your legal "Father"for that welfare which was a snare according to Proverbs, Psalms and Peter and Paul.[26] This is well recorded in history and warned against by Christ and the Prophets.

These same covetous practices, which have taken place three times, even four as Amos would say, also can curse children and makes them surety for debt where they may not leave simply by their own power.

Good Faith Notice of Demand

Someone on the network commented that "Though this Notice covers all the points of Truth that we are to live by, I see no application for enforcement."

While it may appear in many if not all countries that ministers of the ekklesia or early Church established by Jesus the Christ can leave the systems of the world if they conform to Christ's directives for a free church and come into one accord as He commanded it is essential that they are born again loving the light which can reveal their own dark or covetous hearts.

The Church in the wilderness actually belonged to God and were known as the Levites. This would be the same for the early Church or ekklesia. They were appointed a kingdom while they were in the world but not of it and derived no benefit from the world. They were to have a daily ministration that sought to practice Pure Religion to care for the welfare through fervent charity of the people gathered in free assemblies.

Birth and death

We have written about what Jesus called the fathers of the earth who provided free bread like Julius Caesar. And we have explained the three part manumission from one natural father within the Family to the welfare State as a conscripted patresor civil Father. The use of birth registration from Augustus Caesar to Marcus Aurelius was to determine who could eat at the table of rulers.

Early Christians would not eat at the table of the Roman welfare state[27] which added to the Christian conflict and persecution like the trial of the Scillitan Martyrs.

These men were called Benefactors but they exercise authority one over the other to provide the dainties of rulers which make the masses merchandise through what Proverbs, Psalms, and the prophets said was a snare and a trap.[26]

Some one asked me to review a video C2K Report Battle Pass: Authentication on Rumble. I have heard of this approach by many other sincere people and also fraudsters. What they are saying to do has some serious flaws even though some of them may be sincere.

They seem to be saying that you need to ORDER an AUTHENTICATION of your Certified Birth Record from state for use in another country. You will get either an apostille [if a Hague treaty member], or certificate of authentication [non-Hague]. I have seen people doing this over thirty years ago resulting in much heartache and loss.

Then they want you to fill out an DS-4194 which will return documents to you. Then with your own Statements of authority and belief you will hold these documents in an Ecclesiastic trust. I likely have laid our all their detail but neither will I lay out all the flaws in this approach. The answer is in repentance, which is thinking differently than what you got you where you are at and diligently following The Way of Matthew 6:33.

The first heads up was the DS 4194 form. The number of that form if we look at the Strong's Greek for the number 4194 gives the word Πόντιος Pontios from the Latin origin; n pr m; of Pontius [Pilate]. Pontios means "of the sea".

If we look in the Hebrew concordance H4194 we find MemVavTav מָוֶת‎ maveth n defined death, dying, Death (personified), realm of the dead, and is from H4191 מוּת‎ muwth which also MemVavTav but when used as a verb means to die, kill, have one executed.


Error stated in the presentation

There is no “promise of lawful money” in the Constitution. There was an agreement by reason that you could only pay dept with lawful money and it was your responsibility to trade in just weights and measures as we see in:

Leviticus 19:36 "Just balances, just weights, a just ephah, and a just hin, shall ye have: I am the LORD your God, which brought you out of the land of Egypt."
Proverbs 16:11 "A just weight and balance are the LORD’S: all the weights of the bag are his work."

They did not take lawful money away from the people but the people abandoned it as prophesied.

Ezekiel 7:19 "They shall cast their silver in the streets, and their gold shall be removed: their silver and their gold shall not be able to deliver them in the day of the wrath of the LORD: they shall not satisfy their souls, neither fill their bowels: because it is the stumblingblock of their iniquity."

I have seen no evidence that the ecclesiastical trust they mention has any similarity to what Christ appointed nor that they are following His process which includes the first instructions after repenting:

Matthew 6:33 "But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you."

From what we can see is that people have entered themselves and their children into the bondage of Egypt through generations of eating the dainties of rulers through covetous practices, with their churches providing less and less of a daily ministration and virtually no practice of pure Religion until the masses have become merchandise, curse children, and a surety for massive and ever growing debt.

This massive system of the unrighteous mammon is clearly a matter of record and just to cry out is wholly inadequate as a solution and certainly paper work is not either. Just because we did not understand does not change the outcome of our actions.

Proverbs 17:18 "A man void of understanding striketh hands, and becometh surety in the presence of his friend."

If we wanted to understand then we can seek the truth:

Proverbs 20:16 "Take his garment that is surety for a stranger: and take a pledge of him for a strange woman.
Proverbs 27:13 "Take his garment that is surety for a stranger, and take a pledge of him for a strange woman."

The truth is that people have become an asset of the unrighteous mammon and surety for debt, and are back in the bondage of Egypt and employed by a modern Pharaoh and Nimrod back in Babylon. We need to admit the truth of that and follow the instructions of Christ:

Luke 16:11 "If therefore ye have not been faithful in the unrighteous mammon, who will commit to your trust the true riches?"

You cannot just fill out papers or stop paying your tale of bricks, but you must be willing to come together as Christ commanded and in love:

Mark 12:31 "And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these."
John 15:13 "Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends."

We should not be blaming any one else. It is not going to be easy but His burden is light:

Proverbs 11:15 "He that is surety for a stranger shall smart for it: and he that hateth suretiship is sure."

And while we have a right to self determination you need to seek it through the process of Christ, through the means and manner he taught. Which again is:

Matthew 6:33 "But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you."

We can not save ourselves merely by taking possession of ourselves but we can be saved if we count the cost with humility:

Luke 14:27 "And whosoever doth not bear his cross, and come after me, cannot be my disciple. 28 For which of you, intending to build a tower, sitteth not down first, and counteth the cost, whether he have sufficient to finish it?"

We should know that just trying to save your self first is not coming together in the name of Christ:

Proverbs 11:4 "Riches profit not in the day of wrath: but righteousness delivereth from death."

We need to love our neighbor as ourselves and come together that all might be saved:

Psalms 119:122 "Be surety for thy servant for good: let not the proud oppress me."

The enforcer

Ultimately the enforcer is the Spirit itself that may manifest itself as God did at the Red Sea. This is why the Holy Spirit of Eternal life is key.

It was also suggested that we "Check out" the I See Resolution which states things like "The government is playing a power card that, according to the Constitution, it has no authority to hold. By applying power in their decisions, without OUR authority, governments are committing a high crime."

Statements like this show an almost wanton ignorance of the power to contract and and the maxims of law[28] that confirm we grant consent by application and participation.

If you judge it is okay to take from your neighbor it becomes okay to take from you. When you take the right to choose for others you loose your your rights.[29]


All should know that if you sit and eat with a ruler and you have an appetite for his dainties/benefits you should put a Knife to your throat as proverbs says. The one purse approach to governments and their benefits has made the table that should have been for your welfare a snare. All of this was a part if the warnings of the Apostles who created a daily ministration and an international intentional community for those who would live by real faith in the love and charity of The Way rather that the exercising authority of the world.

They go on to say, "Were Our Governments, including county, state and national created by the People to serve OUR needs? Our public servants govern as if we the People are serving them." But the truth is:

"The masses continue with an appetite for benefits and the habit of receiving them by way of a rule of force and violence. The people, having grown accustomed to feed at the expense of others and to depend for their livelihood on the property of others... institute the rule of violence; [30] and now uniting their forces massacre, banish, and plunder,[31] until they degenerate again into perfect savages and find once more a master and monarch." [32] [33]

Polybius saw the downfall of the republic by way of their free bread and welfare a 150 years before the first Emperor of Rome and 175 years before the birth of John the Baptist and Jesus the Christ who opposed these same systems of free bread at your neighbor's expense.
The authoritarian State often uses force and violence to become the Benefactors of the people if the covet what is their neighbors'. They make a social contract where one class of citizen is forced to provide for another class through "legal charity" which is not true charity. The writings of the Apostles warned along with countless passages of ancient writings of the prophets including Proverbs 23 which warned them about what Christ forbid which was the covetous practices of socialist forms of government.

There is a solution which the Little flock of Christ must have eyes to see the Gospel of the Kingdom and the willingness to pursue in Spirit and in truth which is Jerusalem.

Many people have joined onto the network for a long time but are they a part of the Living network?

"To him the porter openeth; and the sheep hear his voice: and he calleth his own sheep by name, and leadeth them out." John 10:3

Are you repenting and seeking the kingdom of God and His righteousness? Are you hearing the voice of Christ? If you will not hear Him and follow The Way can you expect God to Hear you when you cry out?

"And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, [and] one shepherd." John 10:16

Who are the other sheep and until you become His Sheep why should you be told?

"My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:" John 10:27

Are you following Christ or the Modern Church which has led the people back into bondage?

Guru constructs and theories

I will admit these guru constructs and theories may, at times, have some validity to them. And some of the gurus themselves are very smart. But it is wishful thinking to place blame on others. That does the most damage. There is no stronger chain than pride.

What does this mean?

It means there is a lot of stuff out there that is not entirely true and people cling to it with the same religious fervor as church-going religionists.

Once people identify with some of this stuff it is hard to show them anything that counters it and they become fixed in a rut of denial. It takes people down roads and paths from which there is often no return in this life. It squanders our time and resources. It has nothing to do with our personal repentance or virtue and is based on pointing out the secret conspiracy of other evil people rather than what we have done and been a part of.

Ultimately this is a spiritual journey. We need virtue to be free.

There is no value in being free if we do not use that freedom to tend to the weightier matters and righteousness. This means we need to focus on the simple directives of Christ. Love the God of righteousness and each other.

Do not let the truth—or what others think is true—make you angry. This is your quest for truth and righteousness. You cannot have one without the other and they always involve loving one another.

We need to start getting serious about being doers of the word... seeking the Kingdom of God... gathering together in the righteousness of God and the love, service and sacrifice of Christ for one another. All the other things will take care of themselves.

It is not about what you think but what you do.

Proverbs 6:6 Go to the ant, thou sluggard; consider her ways, and be wise: Which having no guide, overseer, or ruler, Provideth her meat in the summer, and gathereth her food in the harvest. How long wilt thou sleep, O sluggard? when wilt thou arise out of thy sleep? Yet a little sleep, a little slumber, a little folding of the hands to sleep: So shall thy poverty come as one that travelleth, and thy want as an armed man.

Gal. 4:16: "Am I therefor made your enemy because I tell you the truth?"




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Footnotes

  1. ↑ False prophets and Guru theories
    Isaiah 42:16 "And I will bring the blind by a way [that] they knew not; I will lead them in paths [that] they have not known: I will make darkness light before them, and crooked things straight. These things will I do unto them, and not forsake them. 17 They shall be turned back, they shall be greatly ashamed, that trust in graven images, that say to the molten images, Ye [are] our gods. 18 Hear, ye deaf; and look, ye blind, that ye may see."
    Isaiah 30:20 "And [though] the Lord give you the bread of adversity, and the water of affliction, yet shall not thy teachers be removed into a corner any more, but thine eyes shall see thy teachers: 21 And thine ears shall hear a word behind thee, saying, This [is] the way, walk ye in it, when ye turn to the right hand, and when ye turn to the left. 22 Ye shall defile also the covering of thy graven images of silver, and the ornament of thy molten images of gold: thou shalt cast them away as a menstruous cloth; thou shalt say unto it, Get thee hence. 23 Then shall he give the rain of thy seed,..."
    Matthew 13:13 "Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand."
    Matthew 15:14 "Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch."
    Luke 4:18 The Spirit of the Lord [is] upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recoveing of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,
    John 9:39 ¶ "And Jesus said, For judgment I am come into this world, that they which see not might see; and that they which see might be made blind."
    Luke 6:39 "And he spake a parable unto them, Can the blind lead the blind? shall they not both fall into the ditch? 40 The disciple is not above his master: but every one that is perfect shall be as his master."
    Acts 13:11 "And now, behold, the hand of the Lord [is] upon thee, and thou shalt be blind, not seeing the sun for a season. And immediately there fell on him a mist and a darkness; and he went about seeking some to lead him by the hand."
  2. ↑ Hebrews 8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people: Hebrews 10:16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;
  3. ↑ Hosea 4:6 "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children."
  4. ↑ Matthew 24:23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
    Mark 13:21 And then if any man shall say to you, Lo, here is Christ; or, lo, he is there; believe him not:
  5. ↑ Mark 13:23 But take ye heed: behold, I have foretold you all things.
  6. ↑ Matthew 18:18 Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
  7. ↑ 7.0 7.1 John 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
    John 5:34 But I receive not testimony from man: but these things I say, that ye might be saved.
    Romans 10:1 Brethren, my heart’s desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.
    2 Thessalonians 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
  8. ↑ Exodus 5:8 And the tale of the bricks, which they did make heretofore, ye shall lay upon them; ye shall not diminish ought thereof: for they be idle; therefore they cry, saying, Let us go and sacrifice to our God.... 18 Go therefore now, and work; for there shall no straw be given you, yet shall ye deliver the tale of bricks.
  9. ↑ Luke 16:9 And I say unto you, Make to yourselves friends of the mammon of unrighteousness; that, when ye fail, they may receive you into everlasting habitations. 10 He that is faithful in that which is least is faithful also in much: and he that is unjust in the least is unjust also in much. 11 If therefore ye have not been faithful in the unrighteous mammon, who will commit to your trust the true riches? 12 And if ye have not been faithful in that which is another man’s, who shall give you that which is your own?
  10. ↑ Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
    John 5:20 For the Father loveth the Son, and sheweth him all things that himself doeth: and he will shew him greater works than these, that ye may marvel.
    John 14:12 ¶ Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater [works] than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.
  11. ↑ Matthew 6:7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen [do]: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.
  12. ↑ 12.0 12.1 12.2 12.3 12.4 12.5 12.6 12.7 5048 ~τελειόω~ teleioo \@tel-i-o’-o\@ from 5046; TDNT-8:79,1161; {See TDNT 785} v AV-make perfect 12, perfect 4, finish 4, fulfil 2, be perfect 1, consecrate 1; 24
    1) to make perfect, complete
    1a) to carry through completely, to accomplish, finish, bring to an end
    2) to complete (perfect)
    2a) add what is yet wanting in order to render a thing full
    2b) to be found perfect
    3) to bring to the end (goal) proposed
    4) to accomplish
    4a) bring to a close or fulfilment by event
    4a1) of the prophecies of the scriptures
    • oikos teleios is the perfect marriage in Rome. “perfect community” (koinonia teleios) ,
    • teleio ,a can be a complete adoption and has been asociated with redeemed.
      • Philo writes (Mos. 1.19). "And the princess, seeing him so advanced beyond his age, conceived for him an even greater fondness than before, and took [adopted] him for her son, having at an earlier time artificially enlarged the figure of her womb to make him pass as her real and not a supposititious child” (LCL, trans. F. H. Colson)."
    Even Josephus writes,“Such was the child whom Thermuthis adopted as her son” (LCL, trans. Henry St. John Thackeray).
  13. ↑ 13.0 13.1 13.2 13.3 3831 ~πανήγυρις~ paneguris \@pan-ay’-goo-ris\@ from 3956 and a derivative of 58; n f AV-general assembly 1; 1
    1) a festal gathering of the whole people to celebrate public games or other solemnities
    2) a public festal assembly
  14. ↑ Hebrews 10:25 Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some [is]; but exhorting [one another]: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.
    2 Peter 2:15 Which have forsaken the right way, and are gone astray, following the way of Balaam [the son] of Bosor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness;
    Isaiah 54:7 For a small moment have I forsaken thee; but with great mercies will I gather thee.
  15. ↑ 5047 ~τελειότης~ teleiotes \@tel-i-ot’-ace\@ from 5046; associated with 5048; TDNT-8:78,1161; {See TDNT 785} n f AV-perfectness 1, perfection 1; 2
    1) perfection
    1a) the state of the more intelligent
    1b) moral and spiritual perfection
  16. ↑ Colossians 3:14 And above all these things put on charity, which is the bond of perfectness <5047>. Hebrews 6:1 Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection <5047>; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,
  17. ↑ Romans 13:8 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.
    Romans 13:10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.
    Galatians 5:14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
    James 2:8 If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well:
  18. ↑ Matthew 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
  19. ↑ cad, a man who behaves dishonorably, especially toward a woman.
  20. ↑ The material was a copy-and-paste from this webpage although it can be found many places.
  21. ↑ "Hopscotch" comes from "hop" meaning "to jump" and "escocher", an Old French word meaning "to cut". It can also mean going from one harlot to the next.
  22. ↑ False prophets and Guru theories
    Isaiah 42:16 "And I will bring the blind by a way [that] they knew not; I will lead them in paths [that] they have not known: I will make darkness light before them, and crooked things straight. These things will I do unto them, and not forsake them. 17 They shall be turned back, they shall be greatly ashamed, that trust in graven images, that say to the molten images, Ye [are] our gods. 18 Hear, ye deaf; and look, ye blind, that ye may see."
    Isaiah 30:20 "And [though] the Lord give you the bread of adversity, and the water of affliction, yet shall not thy teachers be removed into a corner any more, but thine eyes shall see thy teachers: 21 And thine ears shall hear a word behind thee, saying, This [is] the way, walk ye in it, when ye turn to the right hand, and when ye turn to the left. 22 Ye shall defile also the covering of thy graven images of silver, and the ornament of thy molten images of gold: thou shalt cast them away as a menstruous cloth; thou shalt say unto it, Get thee hence. 23 Then shall he give the rain of thy seed,..."
    Matthew 13:13 "Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand."
    Matthew 15:14 "Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch."
    Luke 4:18 The Spirit of the Lord [is] upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recoveing of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,
    John 9:39 ¶ "And Jesus said, For judgment I am come into this world, that they which see not might see; and that they which see might be made blind."
    Luke 6:39 "And he spake a parable unto them, Can the blind lead the blind? shall they not both fall into the ditch? 40 The disciple is not above his master: but every one that is perfect shall be as his master."
    Acts 13:11 "And now, behold, the hand of the Lord [is] upon thee, and thou shalt be blind, not seeing the sun for a season. And immediately there fell on him a mist and a darkness; and he went about seeking some to lead him by the hand."
  23. ↑ Fathers of the earth
    Matthew 23:9 "And call no [man] your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven."
    Matthew 6:8 "Be not ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him. 9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. 10 Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as [it is] in heaven. 11 Give us this day our daily bread. 12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors. 13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen."
    Matthew 7:21 "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven."
    Matthew 12:50 "For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother."
    John 14:26 "But the Comforter, [which is] the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you."
    Romans 8:15 "For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father."
    2 Corinthians 6:18 "And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty."
    1 John 3:1 ¶ "Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not."
  24. ↑ Jesus against covetousness
    Mark 7:9 "And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition." See Corban.
    Mark 7:20 "And he said, That which cometh out of the man, that defileth the man. 21 For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders, 22 Thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness: 23 All these evil things come from within, and defile the man."
    Luke 12:15 "And he said unto them, Take heed, and beware of covetousness: for a man’s life consisteth not in the abundance of the things which he possesseth."
    Luke 16:14 "And the Pharisees also, who were covetous, heard all these things: and they derided him. 15 And he said unto them, Ye are they which justify yourselves before men; but God knoweth your hearts: for that which is highly esteemed among men is abomination in the sight of God."
    Luke 21:34 "And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and [so] that day come upon you unawares. 35 For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth."
    Matthew 19:17 "And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? [there is] none good but one, [that is], God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments."
    John 14:15 "If ye love me, keep my commandments."
    John 14:21 "He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him."
    John 15:10 "If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father’s commandments, and abide in his love."
  25. ↑ Not exercise authority
    Matthew 20:25 "But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Ye know that the princes of the Gentiles exercise dominion over them, and they that are great exercise authority upon them. But it shall not be so among you:..."
    Mark 10:42 "But Jesus called them to him, and saith unto them, Ye know that they which are accounted to rule over the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and their great ones exercise authority upon them. But so shall it not be among you:..."
    Luke 22:25 "And he said unto them, The kings of the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and they that exercise authority upon them are called benefactors. But ye [shall] not [be] so:..."
  26. ↑ 26.0 26.1 Table as a snare
    Psalms 69:22-23 “Let their table become a snare before them: and that which should have been for their welfare, let it become a trap. 23 Let their eyes be darkened, that they see not; and make their loins continually to shake."”
    Romans 11:9 “And David saith, Let their table be made a snare, and a trap, and a stumblingblock, and a recompence unto them:”
    Proverbs 23:1 "When thou sittest to eat with a ruler, consider diligently what [is] before thee: 2 And put a knife to thy throat, if thou be a man given to appetite. 3 Be not desirous of his dainties: for they are deceitful meat."
    Exodus 23:32 "Thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor with their gods. 33 They shall not dwell in thy land, lest they make thee sin against me: for if thou serve their gods, it will surely be a snare unto thee."
    Exodus 34:12 "Take heed to thyself, lest thou make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land whither thou goest, lest it be for a snare in the midst of thee:"
    Deuteronomy 7:16 "And thou shalt consume all the people which the LORD thy God shall deliver thee; thine eye shall have no pity upon them: neither shalt thou serve their gods; for that [will be] a snare unto thee."
    Judges 2:2 "And ye shall make no league [covenant] with the inhabitants of this land; ye shall throw down their altars: but ye have not obeyed my voice: why have ye done this?"
    Proverbs 1:10 "My son, if sinners entice thee, consent thou not."
    Proverbs 6:2 “Thou art snared with the words of thy mouth, thou art taken with the words of thy mouth.” Swear not
    Luke 21:34 "And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and [so] that day come upon you unawares. 35 For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth."
    1 Timothy 6:9 "But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and [into] many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition. 10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows."
  27. ↑ Touch not
    2 Corinthians 6:17 "Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean [thing]; and I will receive you,"
    Colossians 2:21 "(Touch not; taste not; handle not;(rudiments of the world,) 22 Which all are to perish with the using;) after the commandments(precept) and doctrines of men?"
    Romans 11:9 "And David saith, Let their table be made a snare, and a trap, and a stumblingblock, and a recompence unto them:"
    1 Corinthians 10:21 "Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lord’s table, and of the table of devils."
    Numbers 16:21 "Separate yourselves from among this congregation, that I may consume them in a moment... 26 And he spake unto the congregation, saying, Depart, I pray you, from the tents of these wicked men, and touch nothing of theirs, lest ye be consumed in all their sins... 45 Get you up from among this congregation, that I may consume them as in a moment. And they fell upon their faces."
    Ezra 6:21 "And the children of Israel, which were come again out of captivity, and all such as had separated themselves unto them from the filthiness of the heathen of the land, to seek the LORD God of Israel, did eat,"
    Ezra 10:11 "Now therefore make confession unto the LORD God of your fathers, and do his pleasure: and separate yourselves from the people of the land, and from the strange wives."
    Isaiah 52:11 "Depart ye, depart ye, go ye out from thence, touch no unclean [thing]; go ye out of the midst of her; be ye clean, that bear the vessels of the LORD. 12 For ye shall not go out with haste, nor go by flight: for the LORD will go before you; and the God of Israel [will be] your rereward."reward of unrighteousness
    Proverbs 9:6 "Forsake the foolish, and live; and go in the way of understanding."
    Jeremiah 51:6 "Flee out of the midst of Babylon, and deliver every man his soul: be not cut off in her iniquity; for this [is] the time of the LORD’S vengeance; he will render unto her a recompence."
    Revelation 18:4 "And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues."
    John 6:37 "All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out. 38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me."
  28. ↑ He who receives the benefit should also bear the disadvantage.
    Cujus est commodum ejus debet esse incommodum.
  29. ↑ Matthew 7:1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
    Matthew 7:2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
    Luke 6:37 Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:
  30. ↑ Matthew 11:12 And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.
  31. ↑ Luke 16:16 The law and the prophets [were] until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it.
  32. ↑ "But when a new generation arises and the democracy falls into the hands of the grandchildren of its founders, they have become so accustomed to freedom and equality that they no longer value them, and begin to aim at pre-eminence; and it is chiefly those of ample fortune who fall into this error. 6 So when they begin to lust for power and cannot attain it through themselves or their own good qualities, they ruin their estates, tempting and corrupting the people in every possible way. 7 And hence when by their foolish thirst for reputation they have created among the masses an appetite for gifts and the habit of receiving them, democracy in its turn is abolished and changes into a rule of force and violence. 8 For the people, having grown accustomed to feed at the expense of others and to depend for their livelihood on the property of others, as soon as they find a leader who is enterprising but is excluded from the houses of office by his penury, institute the rule of violence; 9 and now uniting their forces massacre, banish, and plunder, until they degenerate again into perfect savages and find once more a master and monarch." Polybius: The Histories (composed at Rome around 130 BC)Fragments of Book at Loeb's classic library, or see our comparison of translations at Polybius#Translations_compare
  33. ↑ An alternate translation in context, "9. For no sooner had the knowledge of the jealousy and hatred existing in the citizens against them which is replaced by democracy, emboldened some one to oppose the government by word or deed, than he was sure to find the whole people ready and prepared to take his side. Having then got rid of these rulers by assassination or exile, they do not venture to set up a king again, being still in terror of the injustice to which this led before; nor dare they intrust the common interests again to more than one, considering the recent example of their misconduct: and therefore, as the only sound hope left them is that which depends upon themselves, they are driven to take refuge in that; and so changed the constitution from an oligarchy to a democracy, and took upon themselves the superintendence and charge of the state. And as long as any survive who have had experience of oligarchical supremacy and domination, they regard their present constitution as a blessing, and hold equality and freedom as of the utmost value. But as soon as a new generation has arisen, and the democracy has descended to their children’s children, long association weakens their value for equality and freedom, and some seek to become more powerful than the ordinary citizens; and the most liable to this temptation are the rich. (which degenerates into rule of corruption and violence, only to be stopped by a return to despotism.) So when they begin to be fond of office, and find themselves unable to obtain it by their own unassisted efforts and their own merits, they ruin their estates, while enticing and corrupting the common people in every possible way. By which means when, in their senseless mania for reputation, they have made the populace ready and greedy to receive bribes, the virtue of democracy is destroyed, and it is transformed into a government of violence and the strong hand. For the mob, habituated to feed at the expense of others, and to have its hopes of a livelihood in the property of its neighbours, as soon as it has got a leader sufficiently ambitious and daring, being excluded by poverty from the sweets of civil honours, produces a reign of mere violence. Then come tumultuous assemblies, massacres, banishments, redivisions of land; until, after losing all trace of civilisation, it has once more found a master and a despot." Translator: Evelyn Shirley Shuckburgh, Release Date: November 8, 2013 [EBook #44126]


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