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Christians do not depend upon systems of social welfare that force the contributions of the people. To seek socialism is the opposite of seeking the kingdom of God and His Righteousness preached by John the Baptist, and Jesus the Christ who said we were to live by charity.

Socialism is a noun defined as a, "political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole."

Its synonyms are listed as: leftism, welfarism; radicalism, progressivism, social democracy; communism, Marxism,

It has been said that “Under Capitalism man exploits man; under Socialism the process is reversed.”

"Socialism works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it, and hell where they already have It." —Ronald Reagan

John Stossel - Capitalism vs Socialism. Neil Sroka (Democracy for America Communications) joins John to argue the need for more socialism, while economist Ivan Pongracic (Hillsdale College) explains why such a path is folly. One argument against Jesus being a socialist from Luke 12:13 "And one of the company said unto him, Master, speak to my brother, that he divide the inheritance with me. And he said unto him, Man, who made me a judge or a divider over you? And he said unto them, Take heed, and beware of covetousness: for a man’s life consisteth not in the abundance of the things which he possesseth." Time 11:17

Socialism as a "political and economic" system requires that the people give power to the state to take away from those who have, to give to those who think they do not have enough. It is rooted in coveting your neighbor's goods and possessions for your personal benefit. The men who exercise force to redistribute the wealth of that "political and economic" system call themselves Benefactors.

Capitalism allows the right to "accumulation of wealth and capital" which allows for charity among men. Certainly you can be selfish with your wealth, but that is a choice. Without a choice you are not a man but a thing. Socialism takes away that choice. The premise of Socialism is "From each according to his ability and to each according to his need", which by definition removes that choice from the individual and empowers others with a choice which was originally his, making the individual member of a socialist society nothing more than a human resource or merchandise. https://youtu.be/

Ami Horowitz: What’s wrong with socialism? Some American liberals want 'Democratic Socialism' in the US, so Ami Horowitz traveled to Venezuela to witness first-hand how socialism has bred violence and despair among its citizens. Time 9:07

"Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health, even as thy soul prospereth." 3 John 1:2

If Capitalism operates in a vacuum it is likely to produce greed among the people. You need to choose other social structures to create incentives within society to not be greedy. In a society that rewards virtue and shuns greed, altruism will grow and society will prosper. Charity was the life blood of all free societies. It was charity that funded and sustained ancient Israel and the early Christians, and it is the departure from that because of socialism that is destroying the world.

A PragerU video answers the question of which is more selfish, socialism or capitalism? Does one make people kinder and more caring, while the other makes people greedy and more selfish? In this video, Dennis Prager explains the moral differences between socialism and capitalism, and why anyone who wants a kind and generous society must support one and oppose the other. ~4:23 min

A PragerU video What is democratic socialism? What makes it different than regular socialism? Has it been tried? Could it work in the United States? Comedian and political commentator Steven Crowder, host of Louder With Crowder, explains. Follow Steven Crowder! http://louderwithcrowder.com/ ~4:25 min

Is socialism even moral since it is based on coveting not only the means of production but the labor of their neighbors. It also requires that some one rules over the distribution of the products of that labor. Common ownership under socialism causes a need for common rule over one another. In every socialist state that ever existed the lazy or slothful man gets to take a share of the diligent man's labor. As we see in the modern socialist system of the United States the lazy enslave the middle class.

“Socialism is the religion people get when they lose their religion”^[1]

Democracy

Somewhere along the way, some people began to believe that we collectively had the right to decide what was good and evil, not only for ourselves, but for our neighbor, as well. We called it democracy.^[2]

In early America, the success and prosperity of the people was, no doubt in part, due to the fact that, “The churches in New England were so many nurseries of freemen, training them in the principles of self-government and accustoming them to the feeling of independence. In these petty organizations were developed, in practice, the principles of individual and national freedom. Each church was a republic in embryo. The fiction became a fact, the abstraction a reality...”^[3]

Part 4: The Kingdom of God, socialism, democracy and tyranny ~5 min

Americans have moved from a virtuous self-reliant republic to covetous “democracy in a republic.”^[4] This process is done more by contract, application, and participation than by vote.

The people have become a nation of consumers, who willingly bite their neighbor for their own personal security. People have fallen in love with the benefits offered by democracy. But at what price?

James Madison, 1787, stated in the Federalist Paper #10 that “Democracy is the most vile form of government ... democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention: have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property: and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths.” Fisher Ames, an author of the First Amendment, said, “A democracy is a volcano which conceals the fiery materials of its own destruction. These will produce an eruption and carry desolation in their way.” In 1815 John Adams:

“Democracy... while it lasts is more bloody than either [aristocracy or monarchy]. Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There is never a democracy that did not commit suicide.”

[1] Great 5 minute clip about the socialist economy in Cuba. Also 25 min video ~4:57 min

John Marshall, longest serving Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, “Between a balanced Republic and a democracy, the difference is like that between order and chaos.” Even Alexander Hamilton said “Real Liberty is never found in despotism or in the extremes of Democracy.” Benjamin Franklin warned emphatically that, “When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.” He understood that a, “Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote!”

Long before these men voiced their objections, Plato postulated, “Dictatorship naturally arises out of democracy...” And long after Adams, Ralph Waldo Emerson said, “Democracy is morose, and runs to anarchy.” Winston Churchill wrote that, “Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.” He went on to say that, “The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.”

More recently, historian and Congressman Ron Paul said, “Our country’s founders cherished liberty, not democracy.” I did find that Karl Marx, who was an advocate of communism, claimed, “Democracy is the road to socialism.”

“It is difficult to understand, how any one who has read the proceedings of the Federal Convention can believe that it was the intention of that body to establish a democratic government.”^[5]

“Accustomed to trampling on the rights of others you have lost the genius of your own independence and become the fit subjects of the first cunning tyrant who rises among you.”^[6]

“Under a democratic government, the citizens exercise the powers of sovereignty; and those powers will be first abused, and afterwards lost, if they are committed to an unwieldy multitude.”^[7]

“Thou shalt not follow a multitude to [do] evil; neither shalt thou speak in a cause to decline after many to wrest [judgment]:” Exodus 23:2

“A simple democracy is the devil’s own government.”^[8]

Sacrificed to Idols

The Greek word eidololatrais translated idolaters would be called “Bandits, hijackers, grafters... today.”^[9] The Greek word eidolothuton translated things or meats offered unto idols was produced from two Greek words: eidolon, meaning an image or likeness of something; and the word thuo, something sacrificed.

It seems to have been invented by Christians and appears to be “the negative counterpart to Corban”^[10] which Jesus told the Pharisees made the word of God to none effect.^[11]

Corban means sacrifice and was common to all Temples. The purpose of those sacrifices was two-fold: to provide for the needs of the people; and to fulfill the need to care about others. Charity, love, giving, and forgiving are the foundation of the character of God and the cornerstone of His righteous society.

The sacrifices in temples were commonly divided between the priests, members, and the poor. What the priests could not consume was sold at a discount to the needy. Some temples were more like investment houses, and they regularly issued money. They funded trade, or mining ventures, and harbors, aqueducts, or roads, and even war.

Temples could be institutions of charity or social insurance. Pure Religion is not only loving God, but loving one another. The public Temples managed the contributions of the people. When they operated with Freewill offerings, they were a blessing to the liberty of the people.

When public Temples compelled the contributions of the people, they were institutions of bondage. Like Nimrod of Babylon, the Pharaoh of Egypt, and the Roman emperors, they could be a snare and trap, a stumbling block and a recompense, an enemy of freedom.

Rome moved from a free republic to an indirect democracy, and then to a socialist dictatorship. The “middle – class [was] sandwiched between a new arid conspicuous moneyed class and a proletariat that had no other aspiration but to be kept by a Welfare State.”^[12]

Religion comes from a Latin word ^[13], meaning to bind. The religion of society will determine the state of society. The religion of Christ binds the people by charity and love. ^[14] Civil religion is the result of a social contract. When welfare of society is provided by the sword of the State, pure religion is murdered and liberty dies. An authoritarian bureaucracy of the State becomes the new ministers and priests of society. All who take by that sword will perish under that sword.

Persecution of Christians was because they were practicing Private welfare which is what early Americans did, which was a key to their success.

Why were Christians persecuted so brutally by the Imperial Cult of Rome?

The Christian conflict was because those who were actually following Christ refused to apply for the social welfare offered by Rome, which was sometimes called Qorban. Judea's king Herod the Great had developed a similar system called Corban, which Christ condemned as making the word of God to none effect.

When the people want to use "a political and economic System" to turn their neighbor into a human resource for their own benefit, they themselves will become Merchandise. They will be entangled in the Elements of the World.

“Liberty is not collective, it is personal. All liberty is individual liberty.”^[15]

Individual rights given by God and the privileged power of government granted by men have been at war since Cain killed Able. “State is an end and individual is means to this end or state is means and individual is end in itself.”^[16] The State’s duties never venture into the redistribution of wealth in a moral society, because man was not endowed with the right to take from his brother.

The exploitation of man is a choice in Capitalism, but exploitation is built into the system of Socialism, which centralizes power and encourages the Saul Syndrome while coveting other people's sweat and toil. In Socialism, everything is part of One purse, and by its nature it says it is okay to be Biting one another.

“Redistribution is immoral... it allows one person to treat another as no more than a means...”^[17]

The welfare state is the enemy of pure religion.^[18]When pure religion diminishes, socialism flourishes.

Some people, through social compact, give the State the power to take from its members for the welfare of society. That power has been deemed a foolish rejection of God.^[19]

“It is impossible to introduce into society a greater change and a greater evil than this: the conversion of the law into an instrument of plunder.”^[20]

“All socialism involves slavery.” ^[21]

“Socialism is the religion people get when they lose their religion”^[22]

What you want is Pure Religion. Join the Network and start seeking the righteousness Christ talked about. This means they need to attend to the Weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith which include caring for the needs of our neighbors and the widows and orphans of our society through Pure Religion in matters of health, education, and welfare. We are NOT to provide for the needy of society through the Covetous Practices and the men who call themselves benefactors but who exercise authority one over the other like the socialists do.

The Way of Christ was like neither the way of the world of Rome nor the governments of the gentiles who depend on those fathers of the earth through force, fear and fealty who deliver the people back in bondage again like they were in Egypt. Christ's ministers and true Christians do not depend upon systems of social welfare that force the contributions of the people like the corban of the Pharisees which made the word of God to none effect. Many people have been deceived to go the way of Balaam and the Nicolaitan and out of The Way of Christ and have become workers of iniquity.

The Christian conflict with Rome in the first century Church appointed by Christ was because they would not apply to the fathers of the earth for their free bread but instead relied upon a voluntary network providing a daily ministration to the needy of society through Faith, Hope, and Charity by way of freewill offerings of the people, for the people, and by the people through the perfect law of liberty in Free Assemblies according to the ancient pattern of Tuns or Tens as He commanded.

The modern Christians are in need of repentance.

"Follow me!" —Jesus the Christ.

One of the most important things to do is to become involved in a network of Charitable Practices. Everyone should want to join a Living Network of Love and Charity.

If you think you have a calling to be a Minister of God or you might want to dedicate your life to Christ as an Ordained Minister of His Holy Church, contact us to start the process of discipleship and become the benefactors who exercise only love, NOT authority.^[23]

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“I will never live for the sake of another man or ask another man to live for mine” ^[24]

Where is Jesus Christ in what Christians are saying and are doing today?

“We must learn to distinguish between charity and socialism. Charity is good, socialism is evil. (Pr. 14:30, 31, 19:17) Charity is for the helpless poor while [the socialist's] welfare makes the poor helpless. (Ga. 2:10)”^[25]

Are we Mystery Babylon ... are we Sodom?

"And the LORD said, Because the cry of Sodom and Gomorrah is great, and because their sin is very grievous;..." Genesis 18:20
"Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy." Ezekiel 16:49

Not so Secure Socialism
Same old promise, Same old lie!
http://www.hisholychurch.org/news/articles/notsecuress.php
Appeared first on NewsWithViews 8-1-10

Part 4 The kingdom of God, socialism, democracy and tyranny -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=er5b9YVk-iE

Democracy
From the book The Higher Liberty, Sec. 14
http://www.hisholychurch.org/media/books/THL/democracy.php

The Decline of Freedom,
The Foundation of Tyranny
Part two of The Real Destroyers of the Liberty of the people?
http://www.hisholychurch.org/news/articles/declinefreedom.php
Appeared first on NewsWithViews 3-21-09

Defining the Lies of Democracies
Democracy! What does history tell us?
http://www.hisholychurch.org/news/articles/democracylie.php
Appeared first on NewsWithViews 9-11-10 Doom, Gloom, and Democracy
The real destroyer is our own covetousness
http://www.hisholychurch.org/news/articles/doomdemocracy.php
Appeared first on NewsWithViews 4-30-09

==Footnotes==

↑ Richard John Neuhaus, 1936 – 2009, prominent American clergyman.
↑ See [(Collectivism)}
↑ Lives of Issac Heath and John Bowles, Elders of the Church and of John Eliot, Jr., preacher in the mid 1600’, written by J, Wingate Thorton. 1850
↑ April 3, 1918, the American creed was read in Congress, “I believe in the United States of America as a government… whose just powers are derived from the consent of the governed: a democracy in a republic.”
↑ The Spirit of American Government, Professor J. Allen Smith.
↑ Abraham Lincoln, September 11, 1858.
↑ Edward Gibbon, The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, 1776.
↑ Benjamin Rush, John Joachim Zubly, pastor and delegate to Congress, in a 1788 letter to David Ramsay. William Elder, Questions of the Day, (Baird publisher, 1871) p.175. Also attributed to Jefferson & Jedidiah Morse.
↑ Word Pictures in the New Testament : Robertson, A. T. (1863-1934)
↑ Tyndale Bulletin 44.2 (1993) 237- 254. Not so Idle thoughts about Eidolouthuton. By Ben Witherington III
↑ Mark 7:10-13 For Moses said, Honour thy father and thy mother; and, Whoso curseth father or mother, let him die the death: But ye say, If a man shall say to his father or mother, It is Corban, that is to say, a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; he shall be free. And ye suffer him no more to do ought for his father or his mother; Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.
↑ The Life and Times of Nero, by Carlo Maria Franzero 1954
↑ The word 'religion' includes a Latin stem word, 'ligare', from which we derive the word 'ligament', and it indicates a band or tie. The opposite of religion is described using the word 'superstition', which is from the Latin words 'super' and 'stitio', meaning 'above standing' (the idea of taking a stand above some object). Superstition can be illustrated by a narcissist who is refusing to participate in common law duties, choosing instead his own 'personal belief'. By this means, the narcissist believes he is 'unbound' (exempt) from whatever binds the society.
↑ Charity and love have their beginning in the home environment by means of familial bonds of love and generosity. Children, obey your parents ((Colossians 3:20). Turn the hearts of fathers to the children (Luke 1:17; Malachi 4:5). This extends to bonds of love in a community when families forsake not the assembling of themselves together, holding fast to faith, to provoke one another unto love and good works (Hebrews 10:23-25)resulting from the grace of God inspiring individuals with sincere worship and obedience of God.
↑ John Calvin Coolidge, Jr., 1872 – 1933, 30th President of the United States.
↑ Natural State, Welfare State or Failed State by T H Shah
↑ The Kantian ethic of capitalism. Harold B. Jones, Jr.
↑ State Welfare Spending and Religiosity, A Cross National Analysis by Anthony Gill and Erik Lundsgaarde
↑ Ex. 20:17, 1 Sa. 8; 13:13, Ro. 7:7, 13:9, Col. 3:5, Heb. 13:5, 2 Pe. 2:3-14
↑ Frederic Bastiat, 1801 – 1850, French theorist, political economist.
↑ Herbert Spencer, 1820 – 1903, an English philosopher.
↑ Richard John Neuhaus, 1936 – 2009, prominent American clergyman.
↑ Matthew 20:25-26 But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Ye know that the princes of the Gentiles exercise dominion over them, and they that are great exercise authority upon them. But it shall not be so among you: but whosoever will be great among you, let him be your minister;
Mark 10:42-43 But Jesus called them to him, and saith unto them, Ye know that they which are accounted to rule over the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and their great ones exercise authority upon them. But so shall it not be among you: but whosoever will be great among you, shall be your minister:
Luke 22:25-26 And he said unto them, The kings of the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and they that exercise authority upon them are called benefactors. But ye shall not be so: but he that is greatest among you, let him be as the younger; and he that is chief, as he that doth serve.
↑ Atlas Shrugged, Ayn Rand. Inscription above Galt’s Gulch powerhouse.
↑ Evangelical Bible College of Western Australia Commentary. Revelation by Dr Peter Mose [Book 97-2] July 2004

“I’m enjoying the irony of American Sanders supporters lecturing me, a former Soviet citizen, on the glories of Socialism and what it really means! Socialism sounds great in speech soundbites and on Facebook, but please keep it there. In practice, it corrodes not only the economy but the human spirit itself, and the ambition and achievement that made modern capitalism possible and brought billions of people out of poverty. Talking about Socialism is a huge luxury, a luxury that was paid for by the successes of capitalism.” Garry Kimovich Kasparov is a Russian chess Grandmaster, former World Chess Champion, writer, and political activist, considered by many to be the greatest chess player of all time.

[1] Richard John Neuhaus, 1936 – 2009, prominent American clergyman.

[2] See [(Collectivism)}

[3] Lives of Issac Heath and John Bowles, Elders of the Church and of John Eliot, Jr., preacher in the mid 1600’, written by J, Wingate Thorton. 1850

[4] April 3, 1918, the American creed was read in Congress, “I believe in the United States of America as a government… whose just powers are derived from the consent of the governed: a democracy in a republic.”

[5] The Spirit of American Government, Professor J. Allen Smith.

[6] Abraham Lincoln, September 11, 1858.

[7] Edward Gibbon, The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, 1776.

[8] Benjamin Rush, John Joachim Zubly, pastor and delegate to Congress, in a 1788 letter to David Ramsay. William Elder, Questions of the Day, (Baird publisher, 1871) p.175. Also attributed to Jefferson & Jedidiah Morse.

[9] Word Pictures in the New Testament : Robertson, A. T. (1863-1934)

[10] Tyndale Bulletin 44.2 (1993) 237- 254. Not so Idle thoughts about Eidolouthuton. By Ben Witherington III

[11] Mark 7:10-13 For Moses said, Honour thy father and thy mother; and, Whoso curseth father or mother, let him die the death: But ye say, If a man shall say to his father or mother, It is Corban, that is to say, a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; he shall be free. And ye suffer him no more to do ought for his father or his mother; Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.

[12] The Life and Times of Nero, by Carlo Maria Franzero 1954

[13] The word 'religion' includes a Latin stem word, 'ligare', from which we derive the word 'ligament', and it indicates a band or tie. The opposite of religion is described using the word 'superstition', which is from the Latin words 'super' and 'stitio', meaning 'above standing' (the idea of taking a stand above some object). Superstition can be illustrated by a narcissist who is refusing to participate in common law duties, choosing instead his own 'personal belief'. By this means, the narcissist believes he is 'unbound' (exempt) from whatever binds the society.

[14] Charity and love have their beginning in the home environment by means of familial bonds of love and generosity. Children, obey your parents ((Colossians 3:20). Turn the hearts of fathers to the children (Luke 1:17; Malachi 4:5). This extends to bonds of love in a community when families forsake not the assembling of themselves together, holding fast to faith, to provoke one another unto love and good works (Hebrews 10:23-25)resulting from the grace of God inspiring individuals with sincere worship and obedience of God.

[15] John Calvin Coolidge, Jr., 1872 – 1933, 30th President of the United States.

[16] Natural State, Welfare State or Failed State by T H Shah

[17] The Kantian ethic of capitalism. Harold B. Jones, Jr.

[18] State Welfare Spending and Religiosity, A Cross National Analysis by Anthony Gill and Erik Lundsgaarde

[19] Ex. 20:17, 1 Sa. 8; 13:13, Ro. 7:7, 13:9, Col. 3:5, Heb. 13:5, 2 Pe. 2:3-14

[20] Frederic Bastiat, 1801 – 1850, French theorist, political economist.

[21] Herbert Spencer, 1820 – 1903, an English philosopher.

[22] Richard John Neuhaus, 1936 – 2009, prominent American clergyman.

[23] Matthew 20:25-26 But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Ye know that the princes of the Gentiles exercise dominion over them, and they that are great exercise authority upon them. But it shall not be so among you: but whosoever will be great among you, let him be your minister;
Mark 10:42-43 But Jesus called them to him, and saith unto them, Ye know that they which are accounted to rule over the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and their great ones exercise authority upon them. But so shall it not be among you: but whosoever will be great among you, shall be your minister:
Luke 22:25-26 And he said unto them, The kings of the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and they that exercise authority upon them are called benefactors. But ye shall not be so: but he that is greatest among you, let him be as the younger; and he that is chief, as he that doth serve.

[24] Atlas Shrugged, Ayn Rand. Inscription above Galt’s Gulch powerhouse.

[25] Evangelical Bible College of Western Australia Commentary. Revelation by Dr Peter Mose [Book 97-2] July 2004

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-{{#ev:youtube|gAJQET28sLY|300|right|Description John Stossel ~ [[Socialism]] On Campus and just one argument against [[Was Jesus a socialist|Jesus being a socialist]] from [[Luke 12]]:13 ''"And one of the company said unto him, Master, speak to my brother, that he divide the inheritance with me. And he said unto him, Man, who made me a judge or a divider over you?  And he said unto them, Take heed, and beware of [[covet]]ousness: for a man’s life consisteth not in the abundance of the things which he possesseth."'' Time 5:23}}
+{{#ev:youtube|6oON6EST2Gs|300|right|John Stossel - [[Capitalism]] vs [[Socialism]]. Neil Sroka (Democracy for America Communications) joins John to argue the need for more socialism, while economist Ivan Pongracic (Hillsdale College) explains why such a path is folly. One argument against [[Was Jesus a socialist|Jesus being a socialist]] from [[Luke 12]]:13 ''"And one of the company said unto him, Master, speak to my brother, that he divide the inheritance with me. And he said unto him, Man, who made me a judge or a divider over you?  And he said unto them, Take heed, and beware of [[covet]]ousness: for a man’s life consisteth not in the abundance of the things which he possesseth."'' Time 11:17}}
 [[Socialism]] as a ''"political and economic"'' system requires that the people give power to the state to take away from those who have, to give to those who think they do not have enough. It is rooted in [[covet]]ing your neighbor's goods and possessions for your personal benefit. The men who exercise force to redistribute the wealth of that "political and economic" system call themselves [[Benefactors]].

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