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Mark Passio says that Jesus Was An Anarchist And Christians Are Statists "

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"Mark Passio[1] Jesus Was An Anarchist And Christians Are Statists ". Mark is right about some things but modern Christians are not doing what Jesus said so therefore they are not really True Christians like the early Church. He is right to call them "Fake ... Christians" but what is a real Christian? The early Church was organized religion but it was real or Pure Religion not the Fake or False religion we see today. (I have not found where Mark Passio says what the early Church was doing that set them free.)

Mark is wrong to suggest that governments are arbitrary power or merely enslaving people but most governments are based on the law of the Father or Patronus of the state that has a natural right to rule over his Children. Most people have gone under the authority of the state because they eat at the table of rulers and have been snared. You are told that the government would turn you into merchandise, not arbitrarily but because of your covetous practices. The people gave power to the State because you desired the benefits of the State at the expense of your neighbor instead of loving your neighbor as yourself. This covetousness also cursed children so that they were born in debt. ~15:14 min

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Taxation is justice...
When you have not been just.
Governments are here to punish the wicked who through covetous practices are biting one another. Parents seal their fate when they pray to rulers for benefits at the expense of your neighbor. That changes the people as Polybius warned. From public schools to Social Security you sold your self a slave, made yourselves merchandise and cursed your own children through your covetous practices which have become a snare.

Real Christians are not statists. People who are posing as Christians are statists. People who are taking the name of the Lord in vain are statists. It is through their wantonness they are again entangled in the elements of the world and the yoke of bondage.

People who pray to Benefactors who exercise authority upon or over the other people or their neighbors are statist. Those are what you might call Modern Christians but they are not real Christians if a real Christian is a follower of Christ.

Christians do not do those things. Because Jesus said not to do those things.

"If ye love me, keep my commandments." John 14:15

If you want to reverse the process that has brought the people back to the bondage of Egypt they need to find out what the early Christians were actually doing to be doers of the word. Real Christians were very organized and attended to the Weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith which include caring for the needs of our neighbors and the widows and orphans of our society through Pure Religion in matters of health, education, and welfare. We are NOT to provide for the needy of society through the Covetous Practices and the men who call themselves benefactors but who exercise authority one over the other like the socialists do.

The Way of Christ was like neither the way of the world of Rome nor the governments of the gentiles who depend on those fathers of the earth through force, fear and fealty who deliver the people back in bondage again like they were in Egypt. Christ's ministers and true Christians do not depend upon systems of social welfare that force the contributions of the people like the corban of the Pharisees which made the word of God to none effect. Many people have been deceived to go the way of Balaam and the Nicolaitan and out of The Way of Christ and have become workers of iniquity.

The Christian conflict with Rome in the first century Church appointed by Christ was because they would not apply to the fathers of the earth for their free bread but instead relied upon a voluntary network providing a daily ministration to the needy of society through Faith, Hope, and Charity by way of freewill offerings of the people, for the people, and by the people through the perfect law of liberty in Free Assemblies according to the ancient pattern of Tuns or Tens as He commanded.

The modern Christians are in need of repentance.

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Christians are anarchists because they follow the The Beloved Anarchist, Jesus the Christ, because that was and is the definition of Christian and why there was a Christian conflict with governments of the world.

Some Q and A

Parts of conversation with supporters of Mark Passio and some of his ideas are recorded below with live links.

Israel was in bondage for 400 years because of one generation made a deal with the government of Egypt. If you want to be free complaining does not cut it. People have to think differently and go another way.... Show me where Mark Passio is telling anyone about that way?

I have known of Mark for a long time although we have never spoken. I have been at the work of studying law and explaining what has worked for free societies throughout history for over half a century. Almost all my writings and recordings are on line for free.

There are numerous problems with his logic and facts. I do not argue with the liberty he desires and he is not here so lets just talk in genera terms.

There is a natural authority one has over others. The first example would be the right of the Father or parent. They gave you life and you naturally are born in debt to your parents. Most government is based either on the right of the "father" or upon contract or both. If you eat at my table and live in my house you are subject to my authority. If there is no debt you can get up and leave.

Jesus not only was showing you how you go into bondage but how you get out again and become free. He said do not take oaths. He and the Bible warned about making covenants with people where you go especially when it comes to praying or applying for benefits. He specifically said "call no man father upon the earth". If you want to know what he meant read this. http://www.preparingyou.com/wiki/Father

What do you mean by "statist belief"? http://www.preparingyou.com/wiki/State

You are right "Blindly believing everything that's in the scriptures " is wrong and dangerous. I do not. What I write about scripture is telling the people what it really means and why which is why there are thousands of foot notes and a step by step process explained. If you read my first book I state in the preface that "the use of quotes is not to establish an authority in your mind".

--ma--”I understand what you mean. But once you are an adult you no longer need to be treated like a child. I have no debt with the State because I have not willingly signed any contract or taken any oath - at least when I had my own Will (as an adult). I do not take more than I have payed and even if that was the case it's because the State has made us so poor that they get to decide over us. I cannot just get up and leave because they still think they own me, and force will be used against me if I don't consent being stolen through taxation.

I'm really sorry that you believe in authority over others. Even with children, our responsibility is to help them align and know natural law, not be authoritarian and make them perfect slaves... which is what most parents do now. They are not willing to educate themselves and become coherent to their children's WHYs. And you are not in debt with your parents. Giving life must be a generous act and in healthy families everyone can help each other but it's not out of debt. You cannot be owned by anybody, not even your parents.”--

“once you are an adult "? Becoming an adult is not about getting bigger it is about maturing. You have a source and where you come from and what you inherit from your pro-creators is a part of who you are.

Because of one generation actions their generations remained in the bondage of debt for 400 years. Any generation could have changed this but not without changing themselves. God led them out of bondage when they learned to help one another during the plagues and social difficulties caused by these disasters. When the Pharaoh continued to demand their owed tax, metaphorical " tally of bricks" but no longer offered straw/ benefits by the government.

As Col Miles supposedly said to Sitting Bull, “You didn't sprout from the plains like the spring grasses. And you didn't coalesce out of the ether."

If you are born in debt you do not remove that debt by getting bigger. Like I said Israel went into bondage because they sold their brother into bondage. And then lied to their father to cover the truth of what they did.

They were slothful in the ways of righteousness. That brings us under tribute.

Proverbs 12:24 ¶ The hand of the diligent shall bear rule: but the slothful shall be under tribute.

We live in a cause and effect universe. There are laws that govern that universe and opinions do not change that. Property and the rights of property are not subject to opinion. We may be endowed by our creator with certain inalienable rights but we are also endowed by our pro-creators. We may rule our own homes with love or force. That is also a choice we have been endowed with but with all choices their are consequences. Rights are inherited. It is written that the kingdom of God which is the right to be ruled by God is inherited from generation to generation. Well the kingdom of "satan", the adversary of God, is also from generation to generation.

We were told to honor our father and mother in the "ten statements" of God. The word Hebrew honor means to "fatten" as in take care of or provide for. But Jesus condemned the Pharisees because their Corban made the word of God to none effect so that they did no more ought for their parents. What was that corban?

Here is another secret to why people have gone under authority. That system of Corban was a system of social security just like what people depend on for the care of their parents today. It is also why most people owe income tax on their wages and salaries. Jesus came to set you free from your sin but the modern Christian Church does not even tell you what that sin is nor why it brings bondage, but the truth will set you free if you have ears to hear and seek to be a doer of the word. http://www.preparingyou.com/wiki/Corban

You do not reverse the effects of generations covetous practices simply by not taking benefits any more. You must reverse the selfishness that brought people to or caused the present “state”. There has been consent but there is a way back if we will think differently and seek it. That is what repentance is. http://www.preparingyou.com/wiki/Repent

There are no strings of authority from the giver of the gift, otherwise it is not a gift. But giving a gift creates an effect and a cause in the cause and effect universe. If we have gone into bondage by our covetous practices which we see happening over and over again in history then the way out or back cannot be accomplished merely by stop taking benefits. We must become the benefactors of love and charity. But the governments of the world do not give gifts nor do they operate by charity. Paul and the apostles talk about faith, hope and charity and the perfect law of liberty. When Jesus used the word we see translated as charity when Paul uses it the translators translate it love. They are the same word.

Modern Christians say they love one another but when they want healthcare, social security, free education they go to men who call themselves benefactors but actually exercise authority by taking from your neighbor or borrowing against the future of your children. Jesus forbid praying to such worldly benefactors. This is supposed to be a Christian Anarchists group but how many here gather to take care of one another when their is real need like the early Christians? http://www.preparingyou.com/wiki/Benefactors

I am not convinced we are being "stolen" from as much as people would like to think. This process of being changed and going under tyrants is not just told in the Bible but many have written about it like Polybius who said The masses continue with an appetite for benefits and the habit of receiving them by way of a rule of force ... until they degenerate again into perfect savages and find once more a master and monarch." http://www.preparingyou.com/wiki/Polybius

--am--”We're all lumped in together...there is no seperation. There is no justice. I love you Gregory, but my neighbor's tally is not my tally, when he participate's and sits at the king's table, but I have repented and do not. That is some sin's of the father crap right there. Just saying.”---

Did you go to public school? Were your parents on social security? the reason people are taxed today for the most part is because for generations they have thought it was okay to take from their neighbor to get the benefits they want. The bible tells you the slothful shall be under tribute. Americans are generally being taxed because they were slothful in the ways of Christ. Sloth in the way of the righteousness is wickedness. Peter told you that you would be made merchandise if you coveted benefits provided at the expense of your neighbor. http://www.preparingyou.com/wiki/Merchandise

---am---” I listened to that one, great episode. I've been enjoying most of your stuff, I just can't wrap my head around the fact that there are a lot of people out there that don't participate, have brought their kids up in the right ways, and yet are still captured by other's sins. Yeah Passio is fine for certain things, but he's not a biblical scholar, nor does he follow the Way, that I'm aware of.”----

We were told that if we seek the benefits of the world we would go back to bondage to the world. We share all our information for free. There is a way back but we have to honestly see the problems... We do hours of broadcasts every week to help people see what Mark is missing, We offer free live courses every week, We offer a network of people where you can learn from each other that was common knowledge to the early Christians. Freedom is not free... People have to seek the whole truth and not just what they want to hear.. Essential elements of Marks rhetoric is wrong. There is a righteous way to get free and that is what Christ was telling us...

Mark is going to Acapulco for a conference. Is he using a passport? How do you get one? What are the rules required to get one? He says he has no social contract? But there is actually evidence that there are many.

http://www.preparingyou.com/wiki/Passports

How does one "severe all ties to government" righteously? I cannot explain all this on Facebook but are you talking property tax or income tax. There are reasons why these taxes exist and they are easily explained but people have to want to learn. They are not learning from Mark but we show them for free step by step. We are not all "in bondage to each other as a collective." but there is real debt...

No where do we see Moses or Jesus taking people to the edge of the desert and saying "run for it you are free" one family at a time.

The reason people are in bondage is because they did not care about others as much as they cared about themselves. The reason God helped the Israelite people and some Egyptians get free and the early Christians is the people started to "work together to set each other free". That is how one WORKS to get free. Most of the other things I hear people doing is nonsense and a waste of energy and time.

We live in a cause and effect universe. There is a plan and it is right in the Biblical text and when we show people and they have ears to hear and eyes to see they are amazed they did not see it sooner. .Usually they have to start with letting go of what they think they know that is just not so.

As far as property taxes is concerned that is simple. You do not own any property. You only own a “legal title” and by definition that means you do not own the “beneficial use” of the property and so must pay for the “use” with a use tax every year. This is not a secret. It is just the basic definition of the words for hundreds of years. You do not own the “beneficial use” because you did not pay for the property with present value, nor likely did the person you bought the legal title from. The present state of things is the result of a 150 years of public education and a half a century of TV. Use taxes and tribute tax are the same. I wont tickle people's ears. I tell the whole truth and that is what will set you free but I can't type it all into Facebook. I got to run out to the desert again... http://www.preparingyou.com/wiki/Legal_title

--ma-- "I don't want to be held responsible for what has been done with my money." 

Being held responsible is what liberty is all about. To ear responsibility is to fear liberty of choice. A good parent gives life and love all the time. They do not count out or take an account of what they do for their children. Jesus said John 15:13 Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends." this is the secret to life more abundant. It is not enough to do no harm we must be a counter force to force. Evil is the absence of righteousness like darkness is the absence of light. The evil you see in the world is the effect of slothfulness in righteousness. The elements of force are the result of our lack of service and natural sacrifice of love. John 10:10 "The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have [it] more abundantly." John 10:15 As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep. 16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd. 17 Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again." Water must flow or it stagnates. The same is true of life.

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Consider these comments about his video:

Moral Culpability?

A soldier may kill one unjustly with a gun or a hundred with a bomb, but a leader may kill tens of thousands with a word.

Bearing False witness is violence.

Swearing that someone will have your service, if they grant you benefits, binds you. We can sell ourselves as slaves. Is this why we are told by Jesus to Swear not? And by his brother James, "But above all things, my brethren, swear not, neither by heaven, neither by the earth, neither by any other oath: but let your yea be yea; and [your] nay, nay; lest ye fall into condemnation." James 5:12

Is there a natural right to exercise authority?

Call no man Father

What was Christ trying to tell us about fathers on the earth?

http://www.hisholychurch.org/sermon/fatherabba.php

Self Defense:

Do Christians Have a Right to Self Defense, Part 1, 11-7-09

Do Christians Have a Right to Self Defense, Part 2, 11-22-09

Do Christians Have a Right to Self Defense, Part 3, 12-5-09

Do Christians Have a Right to Self Defense, Part 4, 1-2-10

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Some concept of Creationism believes that there is an intelligent design that is manifested in not only the obviously visible laws of nature but also law in the Quantum spiritual plain, of which the physical world is a reflection.

From the beginning of the Bible to the end, it makes it clear that you have choices in a cause and effect universe created by divine intelligence. From the beginning man was given the job to hold dominion on earth and dress it and keep it. To not dress and keep the planet is to do violence by sloth to the purpose of man. To damage our fellow man, to take without permission from our neighbor, to bind our neighbor to service because of sloth by way of Covetous Practices or wantonness.

Proverbs 12:24 "The hand of the diligent shall bear rule: but the slothful shall be under tribute."

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Emotions are tools. The question is: who controls your emotions? Are you being controlled by your emotions, or are you using your emotions to express yourself? And then we must ask, is it your emotions expressing a virtuous self or a selfish self?

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Or is it a more slothful and selfish bliss?

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