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| V3 why would stiffnecked people consumed? The word ''stiffnecked'' is from ''qasheh''<Ref name="qasheh">{{07186}}</Ref> meaning ''cruel'' from ''qashah''<Ref name="qashah">{{07185}}</Ref> meaning ''hard''. | | V3 why would stiffnecked people consumed? The word ''stiffnecked'' is from ''qasheh''<Ref name="qasheh">{{07186}}</Ref> meaning ''cruel'' from ''qashah''<Ref name="qashah">{{07185}}</Ref> meaning ''hard''. | ||
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| V5-V6 What are these ''ornaments''(עֲדִי)?<Ref name="adiy">{{05716}}</Ref> The text shows ‘eḏyām (עֶדְיָ֖ם) AyinDelatYodMem which only appears in this one text. AyinDelatYod (עֲדִי) but is that what it means in the text? Is that what Moses is trying to say? | | V5-V6 What are these ''[[ornaments]]''(עֲדִי)?<Ref name="adiy">{{05716}}</Ref> The text shows ‘eḏyām (עֶדְיָ֖ם) AyinDelatYodMem which only appears in this one text. AyinDelatYod (עֲדִי) but is that what it means in the text? Is that what Moses is trying to say? | ||
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| The word ''witness'' (עֵד)<Ref name="ed">{{05707}}</Ref> is in the word ornaments but also in the word congregation.<Ref name="edah">(עֵדָה){{05712}}</Ref>. Other words like prepositions or ''ad'' (עֵד)<Ref name="ad">{{05703}}</Ref> meaning ''ever'' all are AyinDelat including the word translated ''prey'' meaning ''booty''. In 6v the command to ''put off'' seems to mean "lay aside altogether." So are the ornaments ''doodads'' or is it the ''hard hearts'' that you have given a witness of by your deeds or lack of charity in your congregations. Is this like the word for [[Leaven]] which also means ''cruelty''? | | The word ''witness'' (עֵד)<Ref name="ed">{{05707}}</Ref> is in the word [[ornaments]] but also in the word congregation.<Ref name="edah">(עֵדָה){{05712}}</Ref>. Other words like prepositions or ''ad'' (עֵד)<Ref name="ad">{{05703}}</Ref> meaning ''ever'' all are AyinDelat including the word translated ''prey'' meaning ''booty''. In 6v the command to ''put off'' seems to mean "lay aside altogether." So are the [[ornaments]] ''doodads'' or is it the ''hard hearts'' that you have given a witness of by your deeds or lack of charity in your congregations. Is this like the word for [[Leaven]] which also means ''cruelty''? | ||
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| Is this danger of a '''consuming fire''' have to do with the ''raca''<Ref name="raca">{{4469}}</Ref>("evil tidings, they mourned") Jesus also mentions?<Ref name="fire">Deuteronomy 4:24 For the LORD thy God [is] a consuming fire, [even] a jealous God. | | Is this danger of a '''consuming fire''' have to do with the ''raca''<Ref name="raca">{{4469}}</Ref>("evil tidings, they mourned") Jesus also mentions?<Ref name="fire">Deuteronomy 4:24 For the LORD thy God [is] a consuming fire, [even] a jealous God. | ||
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== Evil tidings they mourned == | == Evil tidings they mourned == | ||
4 And when the people heard these evil tidings, they mourned: and no man did put on him his ornaments. | 4 And when the people heard these evil tidings, they mourned: and no man did put on him his [[ornaments]]. | ||
5 For the LORD had said unto Moses, Say unto the children of Israel, Ye are a [[stiffnecked]] people: I will come up into the midst of thee in a moment, and consume thee: therefore now put off thy ornaments from thee, that I may know what to do unto thee. | 5 For the LORD had said unto Moses, Say unto the children of Israel, Ye are a [[stiffnecked]] people: I will come up into the midst of thee in a moment, and consume thee: therefore now put off thy [[ornaments]] from thee, that I may know what to do unto thee. | ||
6 And the children of Israel stripped themselves of their ornaments by the mount Horeb. | 6 And the children of Israel stripped themselves of their [[ornaments]] by the mount Horeb. | ||
== Outside the camp == | == Outside the camp == | ||
7 ¶ And Moses took the tabernacle, and pitched it without the camp, afar off from the camp, and called it the Tabernacle of the congregation. And it came to pass, that every one which sought the LORD went out unto the tabernacle of the congregation, which was without the camp. | 7 ¶ And Moses took the [[tabernacle]], and pitched it without the camp, afar off from the camp, and called it the Tabernacle of the congregation. And it came to pass, that every one which sought the LORD went out unto the tabernacle of the congregation, which was without the camp. | ||
8 And it came to pass, when Moses went out unto the tabernacle, that all the people rose up, and stood every man at his tent door, and looked after Moses, until he was gone into the tabernacle. | 8 And it came to pass, when Moses went out unto the tabernacle, that all the people rose up, and stood every man at his tent door, and looked after Moses, until he was gone into the tabernacle. | ||
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=== Worshipped in his tent === | === Worshipped in his tent === | ||
10 And all the people saw the cloudy pillar stand at the tabernacle door: and all the people rose up and | 10 And all the people saw the cloudy pillar stand at the tabernacle door: and all the people rose up and [[worship]]ped, every man in his tent door. | ||
== Face to face == | == Face to face == | ||
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12 ¶ And Moses said unto the LORD, See, thou sayest unto me, Bring up this people: and thou hast not let me know whom thou wilt send with me. Yet thou hast said, I know thee by name, and thou hast also found grace in my sight. | 12 ¶ And Moses said unto the LORD, See, thou sayest unto me, Bring up this people: and thou hast not let me know whom thou wilt send with me. Yet thou hast said, I know thee by name, and thou hast also found grace in my sight. | ||
13 Now therefore, I pray thee, if I have found grace in thy sight, shew me now thy way, that I may know thee, that I may find grace in thy sight: and consider that this nation [is] thy people. | 13 Now therefore, I pray thee, if I have found grace in thy sight, shew me now thy way, that I may know thee, that I may find [[grace]] in thy sight: and consider that this nation [is] thy people. | ||
14 And he said, My presence shall go [with thee], and I will give thee rest. | 14 And he said, My presence shall go [with thee], and I will give thee rest. | ||
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18 And he said, I beseech thee, shew me thy glory. | 18 And he said, I beseech thee, shew me thy glory. | ||
19 And he said, I will make all my goodness pass before thee, and I will proclaim the name of the LORD before thee; and will be gracious to whom I will be gracious, and will shew mercy on whom I will shew mercy. | 19 And he said, I will make all my goodness pass before thee, and I will proclaim the name of the LORD before thee; and will be gracious to whom I will be gracious, and will shew [[mercy]] on whom I will shew mercy. | ||
20 And he said, Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live. | 20 And he said, Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live. |
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V1 Did Abraham look for a geographical place and location?[3] |
Is Moses and his Ark leading the people to a place or to righteousness?[4] |
V2 Will they "drive out the Canaanite..." Was there a peaceful invasion of these people Was everyone being put to death. |
V3 why would stiffnecked people consumed? The word stiffnecked is from qasheh[5] meaning cruel from qashah[6] meaning hard. |
V5-V6 What are these ornaments(עֲדִי)?[7] The text shows ‘eḏyām (עֶדְיָ֖ם) AyinDelatYodMem which only appears in this one text. AyinDelatYod (עֲדִי) but is that what it means in the text? Is that what Moses is trying to say? |
The word witness (עֵד)[8] is in the word ornaments but also in the word congregation.[9]. Other words like prepositions or ad (עֵד)[10] meaning ever all are AyinDelat including the word translated prey meaning booty. In 6v the command to put off seems to mean "lay aside altogether." So are the ornaments doodads or is it the hard hearts that you have given a witness of by your deeds or lack of charity in your congregations. Is this like the word for Leaven which also means cruelty? |
Is this danger of a consuming fire have to do with the raca[11]("evil tidings, they mourned") Jesus also mentions?[2] |
If the ornaments are the about anger toward others which may include envy and jealousy and a lack of forgiveness then how does a raca[11] fool take ornaments off?[12] |
V7 So, Moses moves the tabernacle out of the camp and the people have to come to it. Is that a part of the process? |
V10 "and all the people rose up and worshipped, every man in his tent door." |
V13 Moses wants to know "thy way". Some commentaries actually think that he is actually asking directions. The Hebrew word derek (דֶּרֶךְ)[13] certainly can mean a road or way but again is that was Moses asking? Moses is asking about The Way of God, creator of the universe and God of Nature. He wants to know Right Reason and to eat of the tree of life. |
The phrase "thy way" is from derek (דֶּרֶךְ)[13] but the text shows dərāḵeḵā,(דְּרָכֶ֔ךָ) which appears with a double Kaf. A single Kaf means "כ ך Kaf K Crown: To Actualize Potential power from spiritual to physical realm [to cover, strength] (Numeric value: 20)", Moses says he wants to know thy way so "that I may know You"[14] and all this so that Moses "may find grace in thy sight:"(למען אמצא־חן בעיניך). |
But his ultimate goal of Moses, his priority, is "and consider that this nation [is] thy people". |
Of course the nation cannot be His nation, His people, if they do not do His will, and they must not take up their ornaments on again. |
Exodus 33
1 ¶ And the LORD said unto Moses, Depart, and go up hence, thou and the people which thou hast brought up out of the land of Egypt, unto the land which I sware unto Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, saying, Unto thy seed will I give it:
2 And I will send an angel before thee; and I will drive out the Canaanite, the Amorite, and the Hittite, and the Perizzite, the Hivite, and the Jebusite:
3 Unto a land flowing with milk and honey: for I will not go up in the midst of thee; for thou art a stiffnecked people: lest I consume thee in the way.
Evil tidings they mourned
4 And when the people heard these evil tidings, they mourned: and no man did put on him his ornaments.
5 For the LORD had said unto Moses, Say unto the children of Israel, Ye are a stiffnecked people: I will come up into the midst of thee in a moment, and consume thee: therefore now put off thy ornaments from thee, that I may know what to do unto thee.
6 And the children of Israel stripped themselves of their ornaments by the mount Horeb.
Outside the camp
7 ¶ And Moses took the tabernacle, and pitched it without the camp, afar off from the camp, and called it the Tabernacle of the congregation. And it came to pass, that every one which sought the LORD went out unto the tabernacle of the congregation, which was without the camp.
8 And it came to pass, when Moses went out unto the tabernacle, that all the people rose up, and stood every man at his tent door, and looked after Moses, until he was gone into the tabernacle.
9 And it came to pass, as Moses entered into the tabernacle, the cloudy pillar descended, and stood at the door of the tabernacle, and the LORD talked with Moses.
Worshipped in his tent
10 And all the people saw the cloudy pillar stand at the tabernacle door: and all the people rose up and worshipped, every man in his tent door.
Face to face
11 And the LORD spake unto Moses face to face, as a man speaketh unto his friend. And he turned again into the camp: but his servant Joshua, the son of Nun, a young man, departed not out of the tabernacle.
Pleads again for the People
12 ¶ And Moses said unto the LORD, See, thou sayest unto me, Bring up this people: and thou hast not let me know whom thou wilt send with me. Yet thou hast said, I know thee by name, and thou hast also found grace in my sight.
13 Now therefore, I pray thee, if I have found grace in thy sight, shew me now thy way, that I may know thee, that I may find grace in thy sight: and consider that this nation [is] thy people.
14 And he said, My presence shall go [with thee], and I will give thee rest.
15 And he said unto him, If thy presence go not [with me], carry us not up hence.
16 For wherein shall it be known here that I and thy people have found grace in thy sight? [is it] not in that thou goest with us? so shall we be separated, I and thy people, from all the people that [are] upon the face of the earth.
17 And the LORD said unto Moses, I will do this thing also that thou hast spoken: for thou hast found grace in my sight, and I know thee by name.
Show me what I am able to see
18 And he said, I beseech thee, shew me thy glory.
19 And he said, I will make all my goodness pass before thee, and I will proclaim the name of the LORD before thee; and will be gracious to whom I will be gracious, and will shew mercy on whom I will shew mercy.
20 And he said, Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live.
21 And the LORD said, Behold, [there is] a place by me, and thou shalt stand upon a rock:
Through the cleft
22 And it shall come to pass, while my glory passeth by, that I will put thee in a clift of the rock, and will cover thee with my hand while I pass by:
23 And I will take away mine hand, and thou shalt see my back parts: but my face shall not be seen.
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- ↑ Genesis 42:21 "And they said one to another, We [are] verily guilty concerning our brother, in that we saw the anguish of his soul, when he besought us, and we would not hear; therefore is this distress come upon us."
- ↑ 2.0 2.1 Deuteronomy 4:24 For the LORD thy God [is] a consuming fire, [even] a jealous God.
- Deuteronomy 4:24 For the LORD thy God [is] a consuming fire, [even] a jealous God.
- Deuteronomy 5:25 Now therefore why should we die? for this great fire will consume us: if we hear the voice of the LORD our God any more, then we shall die.
- Deuteronomy 9:3 Understand therefore this day, that the LORD thy God [is] he which goeth over before thee; [as] a consuming fire he shall destroy them, and he shall bring them down before thy face: so shalt thou drive them out, and destroy them quickly, as the LORD hath said unto thee.
- Hebrews 12:29 For our God [is] a consuming fire.
- Matthew 5:22 " But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire."
- ↑ Hebrews 11:8 By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance, obeyed; and he went out, not knowing whither he went. 9 By faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as [in] a strange country, dwelling in tabernacles with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise: 10 For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker [is] God.
- ↑ Hebrews 11:7 By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith.
- ↑ 07186 קָשֶׁה qasheh [kaw-sheh’] KufShinHey from 07185 קָשָׁה qashah hardin; adj; [BDB-904b] [{See TWOT on 2085 @@ "2085a" }] AV-stiffnecked + 06203 6, hard 5, roughly 5, cruel 3, grievous 3, sore 2, churlish 1, hardhearted 1, heavy 1, misc 9; 36
- 1) hard, cruel, severe, obstinate
- 1a) hard, difficult
- 1b) severe
- 1c) fierce, intense, vehement
- 1d) stubborn, stiff of neck, stiff-necked
- 1e) rigorous (of battle)
- 1) hard, cruel, severe, obstinate
- ↑ 07185 קָשָׁה qashah [kaw-shaw’] a primitive root KufShinHey; v; see also 07186 and 07184קָשָׂה qasah a jug; [BDB-904a] [{See TWOT on 2085 }] AV-harden 12, hard 4, stiffnecked + 06203 2, grievous 2, misc 8; 28
- 1) to be hard, be severe, be fierce, be harsh
- 1a) (Qal)
- 1a1) to be hard, be difficult
- 1a2) to be hard, be severe
- 1b) (Niphal)
- 1b1) to be ill-treated
- 1b2) to be hard pressed
- 1c) (Piel) to have severe labour (of women)
- 1d) (Hiphil)
- 1d1) to make difficult, make difficulty
- 1d2) to make severe, make burdensome
- 1d3) to make hard, make stiff, make stubborn
- 1d3a) of obstinacy (fig)
- 1d4) to show stubbornness
- 1a) (Qal)
- 1) to be hard, be severe, be fierce, be harsh
- ↑ 05716 עֲדִי ‘adiy [ad-ee’] from 05710 in the sense of trappings, Greek 78 Αδδι; n m coll; [BDB-725b] [{See TWOT on 1566 @@ "1566a" }] AV-ornament 11, mouth 2, excellent 1; 14
- 1) ornaments
- 1a) ornaments
- 1b) trappings (of horses)
- 1) ornaments
- ↑ 05707 ^דע^ ‘ed \@ayd\@ contracted from 05749; n m; {See TWOT on 1576 @@ "1576b"} AV-witness 69; 69
- 1) witness
- 1a) witness, testimony, evidence (of things)
- 1b) witness (of people)
- ע Ayin also U. Divine Providence "eye" or "fountain" of five states of kindness or severity. AlefYodNun or nothingness as opposed to AlefShin something [eye, watch] (Numeric value: 70)
- ד Dalet Selflessness – Charity, back and forth or through a door or pathway, to enter like a fish (Numeric value: 4)
- 1) witness
- ↑ (עֵדָה)05712 ^הדע^ ‘edah \@ay-daw’\@ from 05707 meaning witness in the original sense of fixture; n f; AV-congregation 124, company 13, assembly 9, multitude 1, people 1, swarm 1; 149
- 1) congregation, gathering
- ע Ayin also U. Divine Providence "eye" or "fountain" of five states of kindness or severity. AlefYodNun or nothingness as opposed to AlefShin something [eye, watch] (Numeric value: 70)
- ד Dalet Selflessness – Charity, back and forth or through a door or pathway, to enter like a fish (Numeric value: 4)
- ה Hey Expression--Thought, Speech, Action. Manifest seeds of thought and life. [Emphasize, jubilation, window, fence] (Numeric value: 5)
- ↑ 05703 עַד ‘ad [ad] from 05710 ‘adah to pass on,; n m; [BDB-723b] [{See TWOT on 1565 @@ "1565a" }]
AV-ever 41, everlasting 2, end 1, eternity 1, ever + 05769 1, evermore 1, old 1, perpetually 1; 49
- 1) perpetuity, for ever, continuing future
- 1a) ancient (of past time)
- 1b) for ever (of future time)
- 1b1) of continuous existence
- 1c) for ever (of God’s existence)
- 1) perpetuity, for ever, continuing future
- ↑ 11.0 11.1 4469 ῥακά rhaka [rhak-ah’] of Aramaic origin, cf. 07386 רֵיק empty; n; TDNT-6:973,983; [{ See TDNT 688 }] AV-Raca 1; 1 (See vanity)
- 1) empty, i.e. a senseless, empty headed man
- 2) a term of reproach used among the Jews in the time of Christ
- ↑ Matthew 5:23 Therefore if thou bring thy gift to the altar, and there rememberest that thy brother hath ought against thee; 24 Leave there thy gift before the altar, and go thy way; first be reconciled to thy brother, and then come and offer thy gift. 25 Agree with thine adversary quickly, whiles thou art in the way with him; lest at any time the adversary deliver thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and thou be cast into prison. 26 Verily I say unto thee, Thou shalt by no means come out thence, till thou hast paid the uttermost farthing.
- ↑ 13.0 13.1 01870 דֶּרֶךְ derek [deh’-rek] DaletReishKaf from 01869 DaletReishKaf tread or bend; n m/n f; [BDB-202b] [{See TWOT on 453 @@ "453a" }] AV-way 590, toward 31, journey 23, manner 8, misc 53; 705
- 1) way, road, distance, journey, manner
- 1a) road, way, path
- 1b) journey
- 1c) direction
- 1d) manner, habit, way
- 1e) of course of life (fig.)
- 1f) of moral character (fig.)
- ד Dalet Selflessness – Charity, back and forth or through a door or pathway, to enter like a fish (Numeric value: 4)
- ר Reish Process of Clarification The "head" or "beginning". Life's revelation. [Head... Person head highest] (Numeric value: 200)
- כ ך Kaf K Crown: To Actualize Potential power from spiritual to physical realm [to cover, strength] (Numeric value: 20)
- 1) way, road, distance, journey, manner
- ↑ We see wə’êḏā‘ăḵā(וְאֵדָ֣עֲךָ֔) in the text instead of merely yada(יָדַע).
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