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The book "Pagan Christianity" by Frank Viola and George Barna shows the introduction of many pagan holidays and ideas. It also suggests that there were no official offices or official leaders in the [[early Church]]. <Ref>"Up until the second century, the church had no official leadership. That it had leaders is without dispute. But the leadership was unofficial in the sense that there were no religious 'offices'. "The Birth of One-Bishop Rule."</Ref> | The book "Pagan Christianity" by Frank Viola and George Barna shows the introduction of many pagan holidays and ideas. It also suggests that there were no official offices or official leaders in the [[early Church]]. <Ref>"Up until the second century, the church had no official leadership. That it had leaders is without dispute. But the leadership was unofficial in the sense that there were no religious 'offices'. "The Birth of One-Bishop Rule."</Ref> | ||
The suggestion that Ignatius of Antioch | The suggestion that Ignatius of Antioch was instrumental in establishing an authoritarian office is an unwarranted supposition. Dr. William P. Killen regarded most all the Ignatian epistles as being "Entirely Spurious" having been pseudepigraphically composed in the 3rd century<Ref> Killen, William P., [https://depts.drew.edu/jhc/KillenIgnatius.pdf The Ignatian Epistles Entirely Spurious], T. & T. Clark, Edinburgh, 1886</Ref> which would be after the surge of [[Constantine]]'s Church which was looking for justification for its episcopal hierarchical polity as a form of church governance. | ||
There were offices in the original Church appointed by [[Jesus]] who was the [[Christ]], the Messiah, the anointed, the highest son of David. He said he was going to ''take the kingdom from''<Ref>Matthew 21:43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.</Ref> the [[Pharisees]] who ''sat in the seat of [[Moses]]'' and [[appoint]] it to his '''[[little flock]]''' who would bear fruit. To say "Up until the second century, the church had no official leadership." is simply not true. Yes they had leaders and those leaders [[bishop]]s, [[minister]]s and [[deacon]]s were officially appointed but the word they should use to describe that office is "titular". | There were offices in the original Church appointed by [[Jesus]] who was the [[Christ]], the Messiah, the anointed, the highest son of David. He said he was going to ''take the kingdom from''<Ref>Matthew 21:43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.</Ref> the [[Pharisees]] who ''sat in the seat of [[Moses]]'' and [[appoint]] it to his '''[[little flock]]''' who would bear fruit. To say "Up until the second century, the church had no official leadership." is simply not true. Yes they had leaders and those leaders [[bishop]]s, [[minister]]s and [[deacon]]s were officially appointed but the word they should use to describe that office is "titular". | ||
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Even the [[Seven Men]] elected by the people but appointed by Peter over a certain ''business'' just like the [[Seven men]] appointed in the Old Testament was an office. They had authority over what was given them but not over the people who gave it. | Even the [[Seven Men]] elected by the people but appointed by Peter over a certain ''business'' just like the [[Seven men]] appointed in the Old Testament was an office. They had authority over what was given them but not over the people who gave it. | ||
These ministers of the early Church had a job to do. Christians would not [[pray]] to the ''[[Fathers]] of the earth'' no to those men who called themselves [[Benefactors]] who exercised authority. They would not eat the [[Free bread]] of [[Rome]] nor sign up for the [[Imperial Cult of Rome]] because that would have been a [[covetous practices|covetous]] | These ministers of the [[early Church]] had a job to do. Christians would not [[pray]] to the ''[[Fathers]] of the earth'' no to those men who called themselves [[Benefactors]] who exercised authority. They would not eat the [[Free bread]] of [[Rome]] nor sign up for the [[Imperial Cult of Rome]] because that would have been a [[covetous practices|covetous]] | ||
Because they would not take the [[benefits]] of those pagan government temples they often came into [[Christian conflict|conflict with Rome]]. Christians lived by [[faith]], [[hope]] and [[charity]] which is [[love]] practiced according to the [[perfect law of liberty]]. | Because they would not take the [[benefits]] of those pagan government temples they often came into [[Christian conflict|conflict with Rome]]. Christians lived by [[faith]], [[hope]] and [[charity]] which is [[love]] practiced according to the [[perfect law of liberty]]. | ||
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Exercise authority
Do the ministers of the Church established by Christ have the right to exercise authority over the people or rule over them in any way?
Accepting the doctrines of modern Christians and there interpretation of 1 Peter 2:13, Titus 3:1 or Hebrews 13 may lead people away from the true nature of the Gospel of the kingdom.
We see three places where Jesus specifically instructs us to not Exercise authority one over the other:
- Mt 20:25 But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Ye know that the princes of the Gentiles exercise dominion over them, and they that are great exercise authority upon them. But it shall not be so among you:...
- Mr 10:42 But Jesus called them to him, and saith unto them, Ye know that they which are accounted to rule over the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and their great ones exercise authority upon them. But ye shall not be so:...
- Lu 22:25 And he said unto them, The kings of the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and they that exercise authority upon them are called benefactors. But ye shall not be so: But ye shall not be so:...
Do these ministers have authority to "rule over" the people as it seems to suggest in Hebrews 13:7 "Remember them which have the rule over you, who have spoken unto you the word of God: whose faith follow, considering the end of their conversation."
- The word "rule" is not the Greek word 'arche' meaning 'ruler' but 'hegeomai' meaning 'leader', "leading as respects influence... overseers or leaders of the churches" but they are not to be like the rulers of other people who exercise authority one over the other. Most often translated count 10 times, think 4, esteem. The ministers appointed by Christ to be His Church should be leaders who take "count" of the people they serve in the name of the Lord as his servants.
What about Hebrews 13:17 "Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you."
- The word "obey" is commonly translated persuade and trust[1] which is translated trust in the very next verse... and again rule over means those that account for you in the kingdom not rule over as in exercise authority.
We see the word "submit" at least 7 times in the New Testament. The Greek word “hupotasso” translated "submit" actually appears 40 times but is seldom translated "submit".
The Greek word “hupotasso” means “to arrange” yourself according to your own conscience, to voluntary cooperate. It does not mean that we give others the right to "rule over" us as an exercising authority as some suggest in Hebrews 13.
Ruling Bishops
It was the Church established by Constantine who brought in bishops and priests who could exercise authority one over the other. We certainly see that pattern with Ambrose and Augustine of Hippo.
The book "Pagan Christianity" by Frank Viola and George Barna shows the introduction of many pagan holidays and ideas. It also suggests that there were no official offices or official leaders in the early Church. [2]
The suggestion that Ignatius of Antioch was instrumental in establishing an authoritarian office is an unwarranted supposition. Dr. William P. Killen regarded most all the Ignatian epistles as being "Entirely Spurious" having been pseudepigraphically composed in the 3rd century[3] which would be after the surge of Constantine's Church which was looking for justification for its episcopal hierarchical polity as a form of church governance.
There were offices in the original Church appointed by Jesus who was the Christ, the Messiah, the anointed, the highest son of David. He said he was going to take the kingdom from[4] the Pharisees who sat in the seat of Moses and appoint it to his little flock who would bear fruit. To say "Up until the second century, the church had no official leadership." is simply not true. Yes they had leaders and those leaders bishops, ministers and deacons were officially appointed but the word they should use to describe that office is "titular".
Even the Seven Men elected by the people but appointed by Peter over a certain business just like the Seven men appointed in the Old Testament was an office. They had authority over what was given them but not over the people who gave it.
These ministers of the early Church had a job to do. Christians would not pray to the Fathers of the earth no to those men who called themselves Benefactors who exercised authority. They would not eat the Free bread of Rome nor sign up for the Imperial Cult of Rome because that would have been a covetous
Because they would not take the benefits of those pagan government temples they often came into conflict with Rome. Christians lived by faith, hope and charity which is love practiced according to the perfect law of liberty.
Who is to have authority
An Elder or presbyter was not an office of the Church but simply the eldest or head of a family group. The head of each family picked a minister in small groups of Tens. These groups were free assemblies. The purpose of the minister was to connect those ten families in a network of charity with ten other congregations of families. Those ministers would pick a minister who was often called an episcopo, or bishop who was an overseer of one hundred families, not to rule but to serve them in love. They did not rule over the people but facilitated the community charity on a broader scale.
So who should have authority in the Kingdom of God?
It should be God ruling in the hearts and minds of every individual within each family.
This is a common theme from the sin of Cain and Nimrod, from Abraham to John the Baptist and Christ.
It is an instruction in relationship to government of nations.
Polybius believed all democracies fail.
"The masses continue with an appetite for benefits and the habit of receiving them by way of a rule of force and violence. The people, having grown accustomed to feed at the expense of others and to depend for their livelihood on the property of others... institute the rule of violence; [5] and now uniting their forces massacre, banish, and plunder,[6] until they degenerate again into perfect savages and find once more a master and monarch." [7]
The authoritarian state uses force and violence to become the Benefactors of the people. They force one class of citizen to provide for another. Christ forbid that type of government. He told us not to make the Fathers of the earth our Benefactors.
Patronus
... the ruler, Ceasar, president, king, potentate or executive that exercises authority over his people, his nation, his citizens and nationals (a substitute family...)
Anarchist
...government, but rather only withOUT a government that exercises a ruling authority, dominion and control over its citizens. ...ureaucracy or hierarchical system that controls society with an exercising authority. The Bible translates the Greek word hodegos (odhgov) leader, or guide.
Goats and Sheep
...the Gentiles exercise dominion over them, and they that are great exercise authority upon them." ...er the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and their great ones exercise authority upon them."
Benefactors
... kings of the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and they that exercise authority upon them are called benefactors. But ye shall not be so: but he that The same reference to governments that exercise authority one over the other is found in :
Christian conflict
...government that called themselves a Benefactor but exercised authority one over the other. ...ted the Church to be those Benefactors who do not exercise authority one over the other but feed his sheep, provided daily bread and took care
Cognitive dissonance
...fits from men who call themselves benefactors but exercise authority by taking from their neighbor to provide those benefits. When an individual has a right and exercises a right to act on their own behalf or the behalf of others...
“If Virtue & Knowledge are diffused among the People, they will never be enslaved. This will be their great Security”[8] In a republic of noble and virtuous souls there are few affairs of the people that are not taken care of by the people for the people.
Beware of gifts
- "Have ye not known? have ye not heard? hath it not been told you from the beginning? have ye not understood from the foundations of the earth?" Isaiah 40:21
There are gifts of God and man.
- Plutarch said “The real destroyers of the liberties of the people is he who spreads among them bounties, donations and benefits.”
But Proverbs 19:6 tells us the same thing, "Many will intreat the favour of the prince: and every man [is] a friend to him that giveth gifts."
- Polybius said "The masses continue with an appetite for benefits and the habit of receiving them by way of a rule of force and violence. The people, having grown accustomed to feed at the expense of others and to depend for their livelihood on the property of others... institute the rule of violence; and now uniting their forces massacre, banish, and plunder, until they degenerate again into perfect savages and find once more a master and monarch."
This rule of violence and plunder is the same we hear about in Matthew 11:12 "And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force." and in Luke 16:16 "The law and the prophets [were] until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it." The Repentance associated with the act of Baptism was turning away from these Covetous systems of the Welfare of the World and going back to The Way of Fervent Charity with the Eucharist of Christ.
"He that is greedy of gain troubleth his own house; but he that hateth gifts shall live." Proverbs 15:27
The wages of unrighteousness offered by men brings the rights and liberty of man[9] given by God to nothing[10] and their right to judge to confusion.[11]
The gifts of God which set men free[12] come to those who will walk the Way of God.[13]
The Paul the Apostle wrote to a number of Early Christian communities in Galatia, "For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another. For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another." Galatians 5:13-15
When Paul writes in 1 Corinthians 8:9 "But take heed lest by any means this liberty of yours become a stumblingblock to them that are weak." the word "liberty" is the same word exousia Paul uses in Romans 13.
The same word we see as power in Romans 13 is translated right in Hebrews 13:10[14] and Revelation 22:14.[15] and also in Revelation 18[16] concerning the fall of Babylon and the merchants of the earth who are the merchants of men who together with the kings of the earth have committed fornication. Rulers of the world of men not only have sought to take man's endowed dominion from him but have conspired to make all men take the Mark of the Beast which is a badge of servitude that makes them merchandise.
Have we lost that liberty granted by God by neglecting our natural and moral responsibility that is correlative to those God given rights?
Eyes full of adultery
Peter made it clear in 2 Peter 2:3, "And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not."
Peter not only warned us that desiring benefits at the expense of others would make us human resources what he calls merchandise but he warned us in 2 Peter 2:14 about those covetous practices entangling them back in the yoke of bondage and cursing our children:
- "Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children:" 2 Peter 2:14
He tells us that the debt of those Divers lust for the benefits of the world at the expense of others would curse our children.
David warned us in Psalms 69:22, "Let their table become a snare before them: and that which should have been for their welfare, let it become a trap."
And Paul reminded us again in Romans 11:9 that "... David saith, Let their table be made a snare, and a trap, and a stumblingblock, and a recompence unto them:"
This stumblingblock was that we would learn to eat at tables set with the bounty of the compelled sacrifices of institutions made by men who called themselves Benefactors that ruled over the people with and exercising authority and is explained in Revelation 2:14 "But I have a few things against thee, because thou hast there them that hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balac to cast a stumblingblock before the children of Israel, to eat things sacrificed unto idols, and to commit fornication."
Proverbs 23 warns us about the table of men who exercise authority one over the other "When thou sittest to eat with a ruler, consider diligently what [is] before thee: And put a knife to thy throat, if thou be a man given to appetite. Be not desirous of his dainties: for they are deceitful meat."
If the ruler is your Benefactor he will only give you what he takes from others. To desire the Benefits is to Covet and that will change.
What are these benefits today?
Those benefits include everything from Public Schools to Electronic Benefit Transfer (EBT) cards which is an electronic system that allows state welfare departments to issue benefits via a magnetically encoded payment card, used in the United States and the United Kingdom like Rome did with their Tesserae of the Beast of Revelation?
Warned
We were told by God in Exodus 20:17 "Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour’s."
Jesus warned us of the evil of covetousness and where it comes from in Mark 7:20-23, "...That which cometh out of the man, that defileth the man. For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders, Thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness: All these evil things come from within, and defile the man."
These are the things he called us to repent of in Matthew 4:17 when he first "... began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand." and in Mark 1:15 when He said "... The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel." but warned us in Luke 13:3 that "... except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish."
He warned the ministers that systems of Corban like the one they created for their social welfare made the word of God to none effect.
Jesus told us not to look to Benefactors who exercise authority one over the other.
He told us not to pray to Fathers of the earth, but only our Father who is in Heaven.
He told us to keep the commandments including the one about not coveting anything that is our neighbors if we want Eternal life. And when 1 John 2 talked about the "propitiation for our sins", he reminded us that "... hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him. He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked."
Real Christians would not desire the benefits of men who call themselves Benefactors nor pray to the Fathers of the earth like Modern Christians do. They would be led to gather together in a living Network that provided a Daily ministration of Charity for one another according to the Perfect law of liberty. They would strive to keep His commandments by being Doers of His word in a Living Network of Love.
Israel in the Bondage of Egypt were literally employed by the Pharaoh who provided free bread like the Romans in the form of Public Welfare which was Public religion. They had to pay their tale of bricks to the Pharaoh but learn to glean in the field at night to obtain their benefits. This is why God hardened the heart of the Pharaoh during the plagues so they could learn The Way of God. So it was not enough to stop taking the benefits, but they needed to learn to provide them by faith, hope and charity through a system of Corban that made the word of God to effect.
Jesus said nothing different to the early Church. When he said give to Caesar what is Caesar and to God what is God's he was saying pay your tale of bricks. He even warned to be friends with the unrighteous Mammon explaining that it would fail. Those who cheat one master you will likely cheat the next.[17]
We are in bondage because of Covetous Practices and Slothfulness. We are devoured because we or our natural parents took bites out of one another in these Covetous Practices which made us a Surety for debt in an unrighteous Mammon... We must Repent and seek the Kingdom of God and His Righteousness.
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- ↑ 3982 ~πείθω~ peitho \@pi’-tho\@ a primary verb;v AV-persuade 22, trust 8, obey 7, have confidence 6, believe 3, be confident 2, misc 7; 55
- 1) persuade
- 1a) to persuade, i.e. to induce one by words to believe
- 1b) to make friends of, to win one’s favour, gain one’s good will, or to seek to win one, strive to please one
- 1c) to tranquillise
- 1d) to persuade unto i.e. move or induce one to persuasion to do something
- 2) be persuaded
- 2a) to be persuaded, to suffer one’s self to be persuaded; to be induced to believe: to have faith: in a thing
- 2a1) to believe
- 2a2) to be persuaded of a thing concerning a person
- 2b) to listen to, obey, yield to, comply with
- 2a) to be persuaded, to suffer one’s self to be persuaded; to be induced to believe: to have faith: in a thing
- 3) to trust, have confidence, be confident
- 1) persuade
- ↑ "Up until the second century, the church had no official leadership. That it had leaders is without dispute. But the leadership was unofficial in the sense that there were no religious 'offices'. "The Birth of One-Bishop Rule."
- ↑ Killen, William P., The Ignatian Epistles Entirely Spurious, T. & T. Clark, Edinburgh, 1886
- ↑ Matthew 21:43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.
- ↑ Matthew 11:12 And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.
- ↑ Luke 16:16 The law and the prophets [were] until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it.
- ↑ "But when a new generation arises and the democracy falls into the hands of the grandchildren of its founders, they have become so accustomed to freedom and equality that they no longer value them, and begin to aim at pre-eminence; and it is chiefly those of ample fortune who fall into this error. 6 So when they begin to lust for power and cannot attain it through themselves or their own good qualities, they ruin their estates, tempting and corrupting the people in every possible way. 7 And hence when by their foolish thirst for reputation they have created among the masses an appetite for gifts and the habit of receiving them, democracy in its turn is abolished and changes into a rule of force and violence. 8 For the people, having grown accustomed to feed at the expense of others and to depend for their livelihood on the property of others, as soon as they find a leader who is enterprising but is excluded from the houses of office by his penury, institute the rule of violence; 9and now uniting their forces massacre, banish, and plunder, until they degenerate again into perfect savages and find once more a master and monarch" Polybius: The Histories (composed at Rome around 130 BC)Fragments of Book VI, p289
- ↑ Samuel Adams, Our Sacred Honor, Bennett, 217, 1779 - letter to James Warren.
- ↑ Isaiah 1:23 Thy princes [are] rebellious, and companions of thieves: every one loveth gifts, and followeth after rewards: they judge not the fatherless, neither doth the cause of the widow come unto them.
- ↑ Traditions
- Matthew 15:2 "Why do thy disciples transgress the tradition <3862> of the elders? for they wash not their hands when they eat bread. 3 But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition <3862>?"
- Matthew 15:6 "And honour not his father or his mother, [he shall be free]. Thus have ye made the commandment of God of none effect by your tradition <3862>."
- Mark 7:3 "For the Pharisees, and all the Jews, except they wash [their] hands oft, eat not, holding the tradition <3862> of the elders."
- Mark 7:5 "Then the Pharisees and scribes asked him, Why walk not thy disciples according to the tradition <3862> of the elders, but eat bread with unwashen hands?"
- Mark 7:8 "For laying aside the commandmentof God, ye hold the tradition <3862> of men, [as] the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do. 9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition <3862>. 10 For Moses said, Honour thy father and thy mother; and, Whoso curseth father or mother, let him die the death: 11 But ye say, If a man shall say to his father or mother, [It is] Corban, that is to say, a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; [he shall be free]. 12 And ye suffer him no more to do ought for his father or his mother; 13 Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition <3862>, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye."
- 1 Corinthians 11:1 "Be ye followers of me, even as I also [am] of Christ. 2 Now I praise you, brethren, that ye remember me in all things, and keep the ordinances <3862>, as I delivered [them] to you. 3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman [is] the man; and the head of Christ [is] God."
- Galatians 1:14 "And profited in the Jews’ religion above many my equals in mine own nation, being more exceedingly zealous of the traditions <3862> of my fathers."
- Colossians 2:8 "Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition <3862> of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ."
- 2 Thessalonians 2:15 "Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions <3862> which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle."
- 2 Thessalonians 3:6 "Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition <3862> which he received of us."
- Psalms 33:10 "The LORD bringeth the counsel of the heathen to nought: he maketh the devices <מַחְשְׁב֥וֹת 04284 maḥšəḇōṯ> of the people of none effect."
- ↑ Isaiah 40:23 That bringeth the princes to nothing; he maketh the judges of the earth as vanity.
- ↑ Ephesians 4:8 Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men....Ephesians 4:11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; 12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
- ↑ Isaiah 40:27 "Why sayest thou, O Jacob, and speakest, O Israel, My way is hid from the LORD, and my judgment is passed over from my God? 28 Hast thou not known? hast thou not heard, that the everlasting God, the LORD, the Creator of the ends of the earth, fainteth not, neither is weary? there is no searching of his understanding. 29 He giveth power to the faint; and to them that have no might he increaseth strength."
- ↑ "We have an altar, whereof they have no right to eat which serve the tabernacle.
- ↑ "Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
- ↑ Revelation 18:1 ¶ And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory.
- ↑ Luke 16:9 And I say unto you, Make to yourselves friends of the mammon of unrighteousness; that, when ye fail, they may receive you into everlasting habitations.
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