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[[File:Baalf.jpg|right|thumb|Are [[Modern Christians]] following [[The Way]] of Christ or the ways of Nimrod? Was [http://www.hisholychurch.org/news/articles/hunter.php Nimrod] a Provider and Predator?]]
[[File:Baalf.jpg|right|thumb|Was Nimrod trying to build a building that went all the way up to heaven? Or was he building a "tiered hierarchy" [[governments|form of government]] where all the people of his [[world]] were subject to him in a top down system that "[[exercise authority|exercised authority]] one over the other"?<Br>To understand [[Nimrod]] you may need to know why the [[Levites]] were "not to go up by steps", the people provide their "[[breeches]]", and they served the [[welfare]] of the people through [[freewill offerings]] only.<Br>
Are [[Modern Christians]] following [[The Way]] of Christ or the ways of Nimrod? Was [http://www.hisholychurch.org/news/articles/hunter.php Nimrod] a Provider or a  Predator?
The way of the [[socialist]] is not a new idea.
[[Cain]], [[Nimrod]], [[Pharaoh]], and [[Caesar]] had all gone that way because the greed of the people. Their love for the [[wages of unrighteousness]] caused them to follow after the "error of [[Balaam]]" and "the [[Corban]] of the [[Pharisees]] which made the word of God to none effect", ]]


== Nimrod, The Hunter ==
== Nimrod, The Hunter ==


: “He was a mighty hunter before the LORD: wherefore it is said, Even as Nimrod the hunter before theLORD.” [[Genesis 10]]:9
<blockquote>''“He was a mighty hunter before the LORD: wherefore it is said, Even as [[Nimrod]] the hunter before the LORD.” ([[Genesis 10]]:9)''</blockquote>


In [[Genesis 10]]:9, the word hunter is from the Hebrew word ''tsayid''<Ref>{{06718}} </Ref> which is more often translated provision, food, food-supply, or victuals. The word ''paniym''<Ref>{{06440}} </Ref> is translated "before" in the sense ''in the face of'', ''before'' or ''in stead of''. It could be said that “Nimrod was a mighty ''provider'' instead of the LORD.”
In [[Genesis 10]]:9, the word hunter is from the Hebrew word ''tsayid''<Ref>{{06718}} </Ref> which is more often translated provision, food, food-supply, or victuals. The word ''paniym''<Ref>{{06440}} </Ref> is translated "before" in the sense ''in the face of'', ''before'' or ''in stead of''. It could be said that “Nimrod was a mighty ''provider'' instead of the LORD.”


Before [[Nimrod]] and [[Cain]] the power of the "State" was in the hands of the individual people. But they had leaders in voluntary systems of [[charity]] and cooperation. Often through ''small groups of [[tens]] the people'' chose who they would follow in battling the trials of life in the world.  
'''“The real destroyers of the liberties of the people is he who spreads among them bounties, donations, and benefits.”''' [[Plutarch]]
 
This loss of liberty is the result of people neglecting their God-given responsibilities in the practice of what James calls [[pure Religion]]. When societies become [[slothful]] in the practice of [[fervent charity]] becoming "accustomed to [[Bite|feed at the expense of others]] and to depend for their livelihood on the property of others... institute the rule of [[force|violence]]... until they degenerate again into perfect savages and find once more a master and monarch." <Ref>"But when a new generation arises and the [[democracy]] falls into the hands of the grandchildren of its founders, they have become so accustomed to freedom and equality that they no longer value them, and begin to aim at pre-eminence; and it is chiefly those of ample fortune who fall into this error. 6 So when they begin to lust for power and cannot attain it through themselves or their own good qualities, they ruin their estates, tempting and corrupting the people in every possible way. 7 And hence when by their [[foolish]] thirst for reputation they have created among the masses an appetite for gifts and the habit of receiving them, [[democracy]] in its turn is abolished and changes into a rule of [[force]] and violence. 8 For the people, having grown accustomed to [[Covetous practices|feed at the expense of others and to depend for their livelihood on the property of others]], as soon as they find a leader who is enterprising but is excluded from the houses of office by his penury, institute the rule of violence; 9 and now uniting their [[force]]s massacre, banish, and plunder, until they degenerate again into perfect savages and find once more a master and monarch"  [[Polybius]]:  The Histories (composed at Rome around 130 BC) </Ref>
 
Before [[Nimrod]] and [[Cain]] the power of the "State" was in the hands of the individual people. But they did have leaders in voluntary systems of [[charity]] and cooperation. Often through ''small groups of [[tens]] the people'' chose who they would follow in battling the trials of life in the world.  


These men were [[priest]]s of voluntary societies and sometimes judges but they were [[no king|not kings]] and rulers over the people. That daily power of choice to support or follow was based on personal knowledge, mutual respect and informed [[consent]].  
These men were [[priest]]s of voluntary societies and sometimes judges but they were [[no king|not kings]] and rulers over the people. That daily power of choice to support or follow was based on personal knowledge, mutual respect and informed [[consent]].  
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But [[Nimrod]] took that pattern and ruled the people from the top down.
But [[Nimrod]] took that pattern and ruled the people from the top down.


: “Our king and our [[Gods|god]]! Wherefore art thou in fear by reason of a little child? There are myriad upon myriad of princes in thy realm, rulers of thousands, rulers of hundreds, rulers of fifties, and rulers of [[tens]], and overseers without number. Let the pettiest of the princes go and fetch the boy and put him in prison.” <Ref>The Legends of the Jews: From the Creation to Jacob, Vol. 1, Chapter V</Ref>  
<blockquote>''“Our king and our [[Gods|god]]! Wherefore art thou in fear by reason of a little child? There are myriad upon myriad of princes in thy realm, rulers of thousands, rulers of hundreds, rulers of fifties, and rulers of [[tens]], and overseers without number. Let the pettiest of the princes go and fetch the boy and put him in prison.” <Ref>The Legends of the Jews: From the Creation to Jacob, Vol. 1, Chapter V</Ref>''</blockquote>


These are the words of the mighty ''provider'', [[Nimrod]], who ruled over the people as to what they should do with the child who would become [[Abraham]].
These are the words of the mighty ''provider'', [[Nimrod]], who ruled over the people as to what they should do with the child who would become [[Abraham]].
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What were the people doing in their pagan [[Temples]]?
What were the people doing in their pagan [[Temples]]?


What purpose did those temples serve in society and how were they supported and by what means?
What purpose did those temples serve in society and by what means were they supported?
 
{{#ev:youtube|ums_7aYcv0c|320|right|'''Comments:'''<Br> [[Nimrod]] to Now Series: Part 1 of 10 ~6 min}}


: [[Public religion|Public religious]] ceremonies took place outdoors, and not within the temple building. Some ceremonies ended with a temple or shrine, where a ritual object might be stored and brought out for use, or where an offering would be deposited. Sacrifices, like animals, would take place at an open-air altar within the templum and were eaten at festivals or distributed to the poor as a part of the public social welfare in the case of [[Public religion|public religion]].
: [[Public religion|Public religious]] ceremonies took place outdoors, and not within the temple building. Some ceremonies ended within a temple or shrine, where a ritual object might be stored and brought out for use, or where an offering would be deposited. Sacrifices, like that of animals, would take place at an open-air altar within the ''templum'' and were eaten at festivals or distributed to the poor as a part of the public social welfare in the case of [[Public religion|public religion]].


In Hebrew the word [[Corban]] actually means offerings. How can people's offerings upon [[Altars]] of sacrifice make the word of God to none effect?
In Hebrew the word [[Corban]] actually means offerings or sacrifice. How can people's offerings upon [[Altars]] of sacrifice make the word of God to none effect?


Are those offerings [[freewill offerings]] or are they forced by the [[Nimrod]]'s of the [[world]]?
Are those offerings [[freewill offerings]] or are they [[force]]d by the [[Nimrod]]'s of the [[world]]?


Are the [[modern Christians]] practicing the [[charitable practices]] found in the [[Corban]] of Christ or the [[covetous practices]] of the [[Corban]] of [[Nimrod]] and other [[Benefactors]] who provide [[benefits]] but exercise authority.
Are the [[modern Christians]] participating in the [[charitable practices]] found in the [[Corban]] of Christ or the [[covetous practices]] of the [[Corban]] of [[Nimrod]] and other men who call themselves [[Benefactors]]; providing [[benefits]] but exercising authority.


Eating at the table of [[Nimrod]] will make you [[merchandise]] and [[curse children|curse your children]].
Eating at the table of [[Nimrod]] will make you [[merchandise]] and [[curse children|curse your children]].


Are [[Modern Christians]] following [[The Way]] of Christ or the ways of Nimrod?
Was [http://www.hisholychurch.org/news/articles/hunter.php Nimrod] a Provider and Predator?


Was [http://www.hisholychurch.org/news/articles/hunter.php Nimrod] a Provider and Predator?
<blockquote>''"Deliver thyself as a roe from the hand of the hunter, and as a bird from the hand of the fowler.” ([[Proverbs 6]]:5)''</blockquote>
: "Deliver thyself as a roe from the hand of the hunter, and as a bird from the hand of the fowler.” [[Proverbs 6]]:5


{{Some Questions}}
{{Some Questions}}


: The real Church established by Christ must be the temple of [[Pure Religion]]. The ''temple of God'' is made of living stones who care about one another in the love of Christ. They function through charity while the Temples of the world force the contributions of the people under the authority of men like Cain and  
The real Church established by Christ must be the temple of [[Pure Religion]]. The ''temple of God'' is made of ''living stones'' who care about one another in the love of Christ. They function through charity while the Temples of the world force the contributions of the people under the authority of men like Cain and Nimrod.


==Nimrod to Now Series==
==Nimrod to Now Series==
{{#ev:youtube|ums_7aYcv0c|300|right|Nimrod to Now Series: Part 1 of 10 ~6 min}}


* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ums_7aYcv0c Part 1: Nimrod] ~6 min
* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ums_7aYcv0c Part 1: Nimrod] ~6 min
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Was Nimrod trying to build a building that went all the way up to heaven? Or was he building a "tiered hierarchy" form of government where all the people of his world were subject to him in a top down system that "exercised authority one over the other"?
To understand Nimrod you may need to know why the Levites were "not to go up by steps", the people provide their "breeches", and they served the welfare of the people through freewill offerings only.
Are Modern Christians following The Way of Christ or the ways of Nimrod? Was Nimrod a Provider or a Predator? The way of the socialist is not a new idea. Cain, Nimrod, Pharaoh, and Caesar had all gone that way because the greed of the people. Their love for the wages of unrighteousness caused them to follow after the "error of Balaam" and "the Corban of the Pharisees which made the word of God to none effect",

Nimrod, The Hunter

“He was a mighty hunter before the LORD: wherefore it is said, Even as Nimrod the hunter before the LORD.” (Genesis 10:9)

In Genesis 10:9, the word hunter is from the Hebrew word tsayid[1] which is more often translated provision, food, food-supply, or victuals. The word paniym[2] is translated "before" in the sense in the face of, before or in stead of. It could be said that “Nimrod was a mighty provider instead of the LORD.”

“The real destroyers of the liberties of the people is he who spreads among them bounties, donations, and benefits.” Plutarch

This loss of liberty is the result of people neglecting their God-given responsibilities in the practice of what James calls pure Religion. When societies become slothful in the practice of fervent charity becoming "accustomed to feed at the expense of others and to depend for their livelihood on the property of others... institute the rule of violence... until they degenerate again into perfect savages and find once more a master and monarch." [3]

Before Nimrod and Cain the power of the "State" was in the hands of the individual people. But they did have leaders in voluntary systems of charity and cooperation. Often through small groups of tens the people chose who they would follow in battling the trials of life in the world.

These men were priests of voluntary societies and sometimes judges but they were not kings and rulers over the people. That daily power of choice to support or follow was based on personal knowledge, mutual respect and informed consent.

That voluntary network of men choosing ministers and ministers choosing their own ministers formed a nation of freemen in voluntary support of the weightier matters of justice and mercy.

But Nimrod took that pattern and ruled the people from the top down.

“Our king and our god! Wherefore art thou in fear by reason of a little child? There are myriad upon myriad of princes in thy realm, rulers of thousands, rulers of hundreds, rulers of fifties, and rulers of tens, and overseers without number. Let the pettiest of the princes go and fetch the boy and put him in prison.” [4]

These are the words of the mighty provider, Nimrod, who ruled over the people as to what they should do with the child who would become Abraham.

Abraham left Ur and also Haran. What was he really doing and how did his Altars help him and the "many souls" who followed his ways? Was Abraham seeking the Kingdom of God and His righteousness or following the ways of Nimrod and Cain?

The Levites were also “called out” by Moses, just as Jesus called out His ekklesia, the Church. They were the ministers of the communion of common welfare of the people of the Kingdom of God. These were not the strong arm of men who exercised authority but a system of charity. They taught The Ways of God’s kingdom and kept the people together and strong by their system of charity and hope.

The Corban of the Pharisees
It made the word of God to none effect.
Is our Corban making the word of God to none effect today?
http://www.hisholychurch.org/sermon/corban.php

What were the people doing in their pagan Temples?

What purpose did those temples serve in society and by what means were they supported?

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Comments: Nimrod to Now Series: Part 1 of 10 ~6 min
Public religious ceremonies took place outdoors, and not within the temple building. Some ceremonies ended within a temple or shrine, where a ritual object might be stored and brought out for use, or where an offering would be deposited. Sacrifices, like that of animals, would take place at an open-air altar within the templum and were eaten at festivals or distributed to the poor as a part of the public social welfare in the case of public religion.

In Hebrew the word Corban actually means offerings or sacrifice. How can people's offerings upon Altars of sacrifice make the word of God to none effect?

Are those offerings freewill offerings or are they forced by the Nimrod's of the world?

Are the modern Christians participating in the charitable practices found in the Corban of Christ or the covetous practices of the Corban of Nimrod and other men who call themselves Benefactors; providing benefits but exercising authority.

Eating at the table of Nimrod will make you merchandise and curse your children.

Was Nimrod a Provider and Predator?

"Deliver thyself as a roe from the hand of the hunter, and as a bird from the hand of the fowler.” (Proverbs 6:5)


Some Questions

More Questions

To find the answers, we must seek and strive to do what Jesus said the way He said to do it... Including attending to the Weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith which include caring for the needs of our neighbors and the widows and orphans of our society through Pure Religion in matters of health, education, and welfare. We are NOT to provide for the needy of society through the Covetous Practices and the men who call themselves benefactors but who exercise authority one over the other like the socialists do.

The Way of Christ was like neither the way of the world of Rome nor the governments of the gentiles who depend on those fathers of the earth through force, fear and fealty who deliver the people back in bondage again like they were in Egypt. Christ's ministers and true Christians do not depend upon systems of social welfare that force the contributions of the people like the corban of the Pharisees which made the word of God to none effect. Many people have been deceived to go the way of Balaam and the Nicolaitan and out of The Way of Christ and have become workers of iniquity.

The Christian conflict with Rome in the first century Church appointed by Christ was because they would not apply to the fathers of the earth for their free bread but instead relied upon a voluntary network providing a daily ministration to the needy of society through Faith, Hope, and Charity by way of freewill offerings of the people, for the people, and by the people through the perfect law of liberty in Free Assemblies according to the ancient pattern of Tuns or Tens as He commanded.

The modern Christians are in need of repentance.

"Follow me!" —Jesus the Christ.

The real Church established by Christ must be the temple of Pure Religion. The temple of God is made of living stones who care about one another in the love of Christ. They function through charity while the Temples of the world force the contributions of the people under the authority of men like Cain and Nimrod.

Nimrod to Now Series

Not of the World?
What did Jesus really say, to whom, and why about his kingdom?
http://www.hisholychurch.org/news/articles/world.php

Pure Religion
What is it and who does it?
http://www.hisholychurch.org/news/articles/religion.php

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2/5/11 False Prophets
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Keys of the Kingdom radio broadcast February 5, 2011

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  1. ↑ 06718 ^דיצ^ TzadikYodDalet tsayid \@tsah’- yid\@ from a form of 06679 and meaning the same; n m; AV-venison 8, hunter 3, victuals 2, provision 2, hunting 1, catch 1, food 1, hunting 1; 19
    1) hunting, game
    1a) hunting
    1b) game hunted
    2) provision, food
    2a) provision, food, food-supply
    • צ ץ Tzadik is always related to The Faith of the Righteous One, the foundation of the word "to hunt" or Harvest even eat or desire. [Harvest, pant, desire] (Numeric value: 90)
    • י Yod The Infinite Point of essential good. Divine spark hidden in the ט Tet. Spark of spirit. [closed hand... Deed, work, to make] (Numeric value: 10)
    • ד Dalet Selflessness – Charity, back and forth or through a door or pathway, to enter like a fish (Numeric value: 4)
    • Esau was a cunning hunter 06718 Genesis 25:27 צַיִד‎ TzadikYodDalet
    • Nimrod in Genesis 10:9 was said to be a mighty hunter using 06718 צַיִד‎ tsayid TzadikYodDalet
    • Another "hunt" is 06679 ^דוצ^ TzadikVavDalet tsuwd
    • Micah 7:2 we also see 06679 with additional letters יָצ֥וּדוּ YodTzadikVavDaletVav yā·ṣū·ḏū where brothers "hunt" the blood of one another.
  2. ↑ 06440 ^םינפ^ paniym \@paw-neem’\@ pl. PeiNunYodMem (but always as sing.) of an unused noun ^הנפ^ paneh \@paw-neh’\@ from 06437 PeiNunHey turn toward; n m; AV-before 1137, face 390, presence 76, because 67, sight 40, countenance 30, from 27, person 21, upon 20, of 20,  … me 18, against 17,  … him 16, open 13, for 13, toward 9, misc 195; 2109
    1) face
    1a) face, faces
    1b) presence, person
    1c) face (of seraphim or cherubim)
    1d) face (of animals)
    1e) face, surface (of ground)
    1f) as adv of loc/temp
    1f1) before and behind, toward, in front of, forward, formerly,
    from beforetime, before
    1g) with prep 1g1) in front of, before, to the front of, in the presence of, in the face of, at the face or front of, from the presence of, from before, from before the face of
  3. ↑ "But when a new generation arises and the democracy falls into the hands of the grandchildren of its founders, they have become so accustomed to freedom and equality that they no longer value them, and begin to aim at pre-eminence; and it is chiefly those of ample fortune who fall into this error. 6 So when they begin to lust for power and cannot attain it through themselves or their own good qualities, they ruin their estates, tempting and corrupting the people in every possible way. 7 And hence when by their foolish thirst for reputation they have created among the masses an appetite for gifts and the habit of receiving them, democracy in its turn is abolished and changes into a rule of force and violence. 8 For the people, having grown accustomed to feed at the expense of others and to depend for their livelihood on the property of others, as soon as they find a leader who is enterprising but is excluded from the houses of office by his penury, institute the rule of violence; 9 and now uniting their forces massacre, banish, and plunder, until they degenerate again into perfect savages and find once more a master and monarch" Polybius: The Histories (composed at Rome around 130 BC)
  4. ↑ The Legends of the Jews: From the Creation to Jacob, Vol. 1, Chapter V
  5. ↑ Matthew 20:25-26 But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Ye know that the princes of the Gentiles exercise dominion over them, and they that are great exercise authority upon them. But it shall not be so among you: but whosoever will be great among you, let him be your minister;
    Mark 10:42-43 But Jesus called them to him, and saith unto them, Ye know that they which are accounted to rule over the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and their great ones exercise authority upon them. But so shall it not be among you: but whosoever will be great among you, shall be your minister:
    Luke 22:25-26 And he said unto them, The kings of the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and they that exercise authority upon them are called benefactors. But ye shall not be so: but he that is greatest among you, let him be as the younger; and he that is chief, as he that doth serve.


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