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: [[Genesis 42]]:21 "And they said one to another, We are verily guilty concerning our brother, in that we saw the anguish of his soul, when he besought us, and we would not hear; therefore is this distress come upon us. 22 And Reuben answered them, saying, Spake I not unto you, saying, Do not sin against the child; and ye would not hear? therefore, behold, also his blood is required." | : [[Genesis 42]]:21 "And they said one to another, We are verily guilty concerning our brother, in that we saw the anguish of his soul, when he besought us, and we would not hear; therefore is this distress come upon us. 22 And Reuben answered them, saying, Spake I not unto you, saying, Do not sin against the child; and ye would not hear? therefore, behold, also his blood is required." | ||
==failure to care == | |||
The same is true today. For generations the people did not provide for the needy through [[fervent charity]]. But the people have an appetite for the "[[dainties]] of rulers" who [[exercise authority]]<Ref name="exauth">{{exauth}}</Ref> one over the other through the [[rudiments]] of the [[world]]. | The same is true today. | ||
For generations the people did not provide for the needy through [[fervent charity]]. But the people have an [[appetite]] for the "[[dainties]] of rulers" who [[exercise authority]]<Ref name="exauth">{{exauth}}</Ref> one over the other through the [[rudiments]] of the [[world]]. | |||
[[Colossians 2]]:20 "Wherefore if ye be dead with Christ from the [[rudiments]] of the [[world]], why, as though living in the [[world]], are ye subject to ordinances, 21 (Touch not; taste not; handle not; 22 Which all are to perish with the using;) after the commandments and [[doctrines of men]]?"<Ref name="Touchnot">{{Touchnot}}</Ref> | [[Colossians 2]]:20 "Wherefore if ye be dead with Christ from the [[rudiments]] of the [[world]], why, as though living in the [[world]], are ye subject to ordinances, 21 (Touch not; taste not; handle not; 22 Which all are to perish with the using;) after the commandments and [[doctrines of men]]?"<Ref name="Touchnot">{{Touchnot}}</Ref> | ||
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https://preparingyou.com/wiki/Bondage_of_Egypt | https://preparingyou.com/wiki/Bondage_of_Egypt | ||
== Uttering words against governments == | |||
Brian K: "According to the New Testament they still existed within the Roman society, having jobs, owning businesses, and even GASP being both masters owning slaves and slaves owned by masters, and paying taxes to the Roman government as commanded by Jesus, Paul and Peter, and never once uttering one word about government being an inherently immoral idea, but preaching the Second Coming of the Righteous Monarch who will slaughter all who oppose Him when He returns." | Brian K: "According to the New Testament they still existed within the Roman society, having jobs, owning businesses, and even GASP being both masters owning slaves and slaves owned by masters, and paying taxes to the Roman government as commanded by Jesus, Paul and Peter, and never once uttering one word about government being an inherently immoral idea, but preaching the Second Coming of the Righteous Monarch who will slaughter all who oppose Him when He returns." | ||
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What Jesus said, [[Matthew 22]]:20 "And he saith unto them, Whose [is] this image and superscription? 21 They say unto him, Caesar’s. Then saith he unto them, '''Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar’s'''; and unto God the things that are God’s." | What Jesus said, [[Matthew 22]]:20 "And he saith unto them, Whose [is] this image and superscription? 21 They say unto him, Caesar’s. Then saith he unto them, '''Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar’s'''; and unto God the things that are God’s." | ||
If we owe the tax pay it. The question is "Why do you owe the tax? | If we owe the tax pay it. | ||
== Owe the tax == | |||
The question is "Why do you owe the tax? | |||
* [[Proverbs 12]]:24 "The hand of the diligent shall bear rule: but the slothful shall be under tribute." | * [[Proverbs 12]]:24 "The hand of the diligent shall bear rule: but the slothful shall be under tribute." | ||
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Signing up with the government [[temples]] of [[Herod]] was the [[covetous practices]] that ''made the word of God to none effect''. Jesus said we were not to be like the governments of the gentiles,<Ref name="exauth">{{exauth}}</Ref> Paul said ''eat not, touch not''<Ref name="Touchnot">{{Touchnot}}</Ref> and that [[covetous]]ness was [[idolatry]]<Ref name="Isidolatry">{{Isidolatry}}</Ref> and Peter said that [[covet]]ousness would make us [[merchandise]] and [[curse children]].<Ref name="covetnot">{{covetnot}}</Ref> | Signing up with the government [[temples]] of [[Herod]] was the [[covetous practices]] that ''made the word of God to none effect''. Jesus said we were not to be like the governments of the gentiles,<Ref name="exauth">{{exauth}}</Ref> Paul said ''eat not, touch not''<Ref name="Touchnot">{{Touchnot}}</Ref> and that [[covetous]]ness was [[idolatry]]<Ref name="Isidolatry">{{Isidolatry}}</Ref> and Peter said that [[covet]]ousness would make us [[merchandise]] and [[curse children]].<Ref name="covetnot">{{covetnot}}</Ref> | ||
https://preparingyou.com/wiki/Corban | https://preparingyou.com/wiki/Corban | ||
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Matthew T I was reading your debate with Brian K and already responded to him concerning objections by Jesus, Paul, Peter, and all the prophets against signing up for [[social welfare]] from governments that "[[exercise authority]]"<Ref name="exauth">{{exauth}}</Ref> to get [[benefits]], government "[[dainties]]", at the expense of your neighbor like the "[[Corban]]" of the [[Pharisees]]and the [[Social Security]] system of [[FDR]] and men like [[LBJ]]. The bondage the [[appetite]] of the [[masses]] for their [[dainties]] has expanded year after year because of the [[apostasy]] of the Modern Church who is the [[harlot]] and the daughters of the whore. | Matthew T I was reading your debate with Brian K and already responded to him concerning objections by Jesus, Paul, Peter, and all the prophets against signing up for [[social welfare]] from governments that "[[exercise authority]]"<Ref name="exauth">{{exauth}}</Ref> to get [[benefits]], government "[[dainties]]", at the expense of your neighbor like the "[[Corban]]" of the [[Pharisees]]and the [[Social Security]] system of [[FDR]] and men like [[LBJ]]. The bondage the [[appetite]] of the [[masses]] for their [[dainties]] has expanded year after year because of the [[apostasy]] of the Modern Church who is the [[harlot]] and the daughters of the whore. | ||
Jesus preached a government, took the government from the Pharisees<Ref name="ktaken">{{ktaken}}</Ref> and appointed it to His little flock. <Ref name="Appointk">{{Appointk}}</Ref> | |||
== Temples and the government == | |||
We need to understand all [[temples]] were government buildings providing services. It is the [[means and method]], policies and practices, of the government and the people that often distinguishes the righteous and unrighteous [[mammon]]. | We need to understand all [[temples]] were government buildings providing services. It is the [[means and method]], policies and practices, of the government and the people that often distinguishes the righteous and unrighteous [[mammon]]. | ||
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Jesus was preaching a self government that keeps the [[captive]] free. | Jesus was preaching a self government that keeps the [[captive]] free. | ||
=== Not immune === | |||
Matthew T wrote Brian K saying Jesus told Peter they were "immune from the temple tax, and had him miraculously find a coin in a fish’s mouth to pay the tax “so as not to pay offense.” | Matthew T wrote Brian K saying Jesus told Peter they were "immune from the temple tax, and had him miraculously find a coin in a fish’s mouth to pay the tax “so as not to pay offense.” | ||
Matthew T They were not really "immune from the temple tax." While Jesus did not owe the tax as the virtual high priest and king and Peter may have not been "registered" (another issue). | Matthew T They were not really "immune from the temple tax." While Jesus did not owe the tax as the virtual high priest and king and Peter may have not been "registered" (another issue). | ||
https://preparingyou.com/wiki/Pay_tribute | |||
The problem was Peter had miss spoke by answer the question with "Yes". What did Jesus say about that? | The problem was Peter had miss spoke by answer the question with "Yes". What did Jesus say about that? | ||
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The problem is the people, both Jew and Christian, among others have gone a whoring after the [[wages of unrighteousness]] and are in need of [[repent]]ance. | The problem is the people, both Jew and Christian, among others have gone a whoring after the [[wages of unrighteousness]] and are in need of [[repent]]ance. | ||
In essence we have been told, as it is written, | In essence we have been told, as it is written, [[Romans 12]]:18 "If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men." But if you desire benefits through men who exercise authority or take from others to give to you then you are not '''living peaceably'''. | ||
“Bless those who persecute you; bless and do not curse them." | |||
Yet, ultimately: “But Peter and the apostles answered, “We must obey God rather than men.” | Yet, ultimately: “But Peter and the apostles answered, “We must obey God rather than men.” | ||
== Registered == | |||
It appears many of the disciples ''[[idiotes|unregistered]]'' with the system of [[Corban]] set up by [[Herod]] and the Pharisees. They may not have been legally required to pay the tax being [[idiotes|unregistered]]. | |||
The followers of Christ who were learning [[the Way]] still owed the tax even though Jesus said it was "making the word of God to none effect" of they had signed up and gotten the [[Baptism]] of the Jews. | |||
We know that the chief rulers would eventually make the rule that if you professed Jesus as the Christ you would be kicked out of the system. | |||
This all in the Bible and we show you where for free which is why we share the links. | |||
[[Modern Christians]] which may not be real followers of Christ but [[workers of iniquity]] as Jesus and all the apostles warned when they were told you cannot just say [[Lord Lord]]. | |||
At the moment most people are not ready to be put out of the system they have created over the last 100 years. They are registered and they are not doing what the [[Early Church]] was doing. | |||
:[[John 9]]:22 "These words spake his parents, because they feared the Jews: for the Jews had agreed already, that if any man did confess that he was Christ, he should be [[put out]] of the [[synagogue]]." | |||
==Paul not a citizen of Rome == | |||
Was Paul a Roman citizen and what was the real meaning of Rhomaios. | |||
[[Paul the Apostle]] was called a “Roman” in some translations of the Bible, but the word that appears in the original text is the Greek word Rhomaios which did not mean a "Roman citizen" at that time. | |||
https://preparingyou.com/wiki/Was_Paul_a_Roman_Citizen | |||
Everyone should know all centurions were granted Roman citizenship but right in the text the head of the cohort tells you he had to pay a great sum for the freedom that comes with the status of Rhomaios. Everyone should have been suspicious that Roman citizenship and Rhomaios were not the same thing. | Everyone should know all centurions were granted Roman citizenship but right in the text the head of the cohort tells you he had to pay a great sum for the freedom that comes with the status of Rhomaios. Everyone should have been suspicious that Roman citizenship and Rhomaios were not the same thing. | ||
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There are lots of words that people are kept in ignorance of especially if they think they already know. | There are lots of words that people are kept in ignorance of especially if they think they already know. | ||
https://preparingyou.com/wiki/Was_Paul_a_Roman_Citizen | Read the whole article at: | ||
: https://preparingyou.com/wiki/Was_Paul_a_Roman_Citizen | |||
== Paul's appeal == | |||
Paul's appeal to Caesar was a legal strategy to protect Christians. He had no need to appeal because he had already as good as won the case. | Paul's appeal to [[Caesar]] was a legal strategy to protect Christians. He had no need to appeal because he had already as good as won the case. | ||
While his case for the kingdom was pending before Caesar few judges appointed by Caesar would rule against Christians on the same grounds. He was sacrificing himself to make amends for his persecutions of Christians. Besides he had relatives in Rome and he was able to stay with them. | While his case for the kingdom was pending before Caesar few judges appointed by Caesar would rule against Christians on the same grounds. He was sacrificing himself to make amends for his persecutions of Christians. Besides he had relatives in Rome and he was able to stay with them. | ||
Revision as of 17:47, 5 March 2024
Liberty degenerated
Question proposed on Facebook from Paul VP,
- "When people first became Christians, it is true that they organized politically as a mutual aid community that had zero coercion. However, did they completely disengage from any commerce or work within the existing supply chains of the State-captured economy and did they exclusively only produce and trade with and for one another?"
They were capitalists.
Many soldiers even became Christians. What made them separate and peculiar was that they would not sign up to take the free bread offered by the Roman government and other city states.
They were even persecuted when Rome outlawed private religion. See Vigellius Saturninus and the Acts of the Scillitan Martyrs, https://preparingyou.com/wiki/Free_bread
- "Gregory, in today's economy, receiving welfare is clearly "free bread"."
But, how about working and earning a salary from a corporation, or even earning salary in FRN USD, which is preferentially available to the friends of the State and those close to them, and which is a bondage device for the poor?
Gregory's comment Updated
- Paul VP the present day citizens of the world have returned completely back into the bondage of Egypt where they are dependent upon the governments of the world for the health care, welfare, education of their children, and even the care of their parents.
The Israelites went into bondage because they would not hear the cries of their brother.
- Genesis 42:21 "And they said one to another, We are verily guilty concerning our brother, in that we saw the anguish of his soul, when he besought us, and we would not hear; therefore is this distress come upon us. 22 And Reuben answered them, saying, Spake I not unto you, saying, Do not sin against the child; and ye would not hear? therefore, behold, also his blood is required."
failure to care
The same is true today.
For generations the people did not provide for the needy through fervent charity. But the people have an appetite for the "dainties of rulers" who exercise authority[1] one over the other through the rudiments of the world.
Colossians 2:20 "Wherefore if ye be dead with Christ from the rudiments of the world, why, as though living in the world, are ye subject to ordinances, 21 (Touch not; taste not; handle not; 22 Which all are to perish with the using;) after the commandments and doctrines of men?"[2]
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- Colossians 3 :5 "Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry:"
We need to repent because of Colossians 3:6 "For which things' sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience: 7 In the which ye also walked some time, when ye lived in them. 8 But now ye also put off all these; anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy communication out of your mouth. 9 Lie not one to another, seeing that ye have put off the old man with his deeds;"
Take a lesson from Exodus:
While in the bondage of Egypt the Israelites would have to learn to care for one another during hard times, still working in the system of Egypt but without the "straw", the benefits, given by the pharaoh's government during plagues before they were free to go. We may get the same opportunity. It is time to become doers of the word.
https://preparingyou.com/wiki/Bondage_of_Egypt
Uttering words against governments
Brian K: "According to the New Testament they still existed within the Roman society, having jobs, owning businesses, and even GASP being both masters owning slaves and slaves owned by masters, and paying taxes to the Roman government as commanded by Jesus, Paul and Peter, and never once uttering one word about government being an inherently immoral idea, but preaching the Second Coming of the Righteous Monarch who will slaughter all who oppose Him when He returns."
Gregory writes:
"Brian K I read most of your comments and conversation with Matthew T. There are things missing in your rational."
First, when you say, "paying taxes to the Roman government as commanded by Jesus, Paul and Peter, and never once uttering one word about government being an inherently immoral idea, but preaching the Second Coming of the Righteous Monarch who will slaughter all who oppose Him when He returns".
What Jesus said, Matthew 22:20 "And he saith unto them, Whose [is] this image and superscription? 21 They say unto him, Caesar’s. Then saith he unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar’s; and unto God the things that are God’s."
If we owe the tax pay it.
Owe the tax
The question is "Why do you owe the tax?
- Proverbs 12:24 "The hand of the diligent shall bear rule: but the slothful shall be under tribute."
Slothful in what?
Slothful in The Way of Christ and also the way of Moses which were in agreement for the most part once you understand what the Pharisees got wrong.
One of the taxes in Judea starting with Herod and in Rome was the Corban of the Pharisees. In the Old Testament Corban was a freewill offeringbut not at that time.
Signing up with the government temples of Herod was the covetous practices that made the word of God to none effect. Jesus said we were not to be like the governments of the gentiles,[1] Paul said eat not, touch not[2] and that covetousness was idolatry[3] and Peter said that covetousness would make us merchandise and curse children.[4]
Matthew T I was reading your debate with Brian K and already responded to him concerning objections by Jesus, Paul, Peter, and all the prophets against signing up for social welfare from governments that "exercise authority"[1] to get benefits, government "dainties", at the expense of your neighbor like the "Corban" of the Phariseesand the Social Security system of FDR and men like LBJ. The bondage the appetite of the masses for their dainties has expanded year after year because of the apostasy of the Modern Church who is the harlot and the daughters of the whore.
Jesus preached a government, took the government from the Pharisees[5] and appointed it to His little flock. [6]
Temples and the government
We need to understand all temples were government buildings providing services. It is the means and method, policies and practices, of the government and the people that often distinguishes the righteous and unrighteous mammon.
I thought I would address Romans 13 since both of you are a little confused about what it is actually saying.
Romans 13 is about your power or "liberty" of choice.
- See the article:
- https://preparingyou.com/wiki/Romans_13
- or read the book:
- The Higher Liberty]
Jesus was preaching a self government that keeps the captive free.
Not immune
Matthew T wrote Brian K saying Jesus told Peter they were "immune from the temple tax, and had him miraculously find a coin in a fish’s mouth to pay the tax “so as not to pay offense.”
Matthew T They were not really "immune from the temple tax." While Jesus did not owe the tax as the virtual high priest and king and Peter may have not been "registered" (another issue).
https://preparingyou.com/wiki/Pay_tribute
The problem was Peter had miss spoke by answer the question with "Yes". What did Jesus say about that?
Jesus was just making his yes, yes.
Matthew 5:37 "But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil."
In fact, that seems to be the entire attitude of the early Christians to all these immoral systems of taxation and forms of Corvee type slavery such as the bondage of Egypt which the whole world has returned to for much the same reasons.
The problem is the people, both Jew and Christian, among others have gone a whoring after the wages of unrighteousness and are in need of repentance.
In essence we have been told, as it is written, Romans 12:18 "If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men." But if you desire benefits through men who exercise authority or take from others to give to you then you are not living peaceably.
“Bless those who persecute you; bless and do not curse them."
Yet, ultimately: “But Peter and the apostles answered, “We must obey God rather than men.”
Registered
It appears many of the disciples unregistered with the system of Corban set up by Herod and the Pharisees. They may not have been legally required to pay the tax being unregistered.
The followers of Christ who were learning the Way still owed the tax even though Jesus said it was "making the word of God to none effect" of they had signed up and gotten the Baptism of the Jews.
We know that the chief rulers would eventually make the rule that if you professed Jesus as the Christ you would be kicked out of the system.
This all in the Bible and we show you where for free which is why we share the links.
Modern Christians which may not be real followers of Christ but workers of iniquity as Jesus and all the apostles warned when they were told you cannot just say Lord Lord.
At the moment most people are not ready to be put out of the system they have created over the last 100 years. They are registered and they are not doing what the Early Church was doing.
- John 9:22 "These words spake his parents, because they feared the Jews: for the Jews had agreed already, that if any man did confess that he was Christ, he should be put out of the synagogue."
Paul not a citizen of Rome
Was Paul a Roman citizen and what was the real meaning of Rhomaios.
Paul the Apostle was called a “Roman” in some translations of the Bible, but the word that appears in the original text is the Greek word Rhomaios which did not mean a "Roman citizen" at that time.
https://preparingyou.com/wiki/Was_Paul_a_Roman_Citizen
Everyone should know all centurions were granted Roman citizenship but right in the text the head of the cohort tells you he had to pay a great sum for the freedom that comes with the status of Rhomaios. Everyone should have been suspicious that Roman citizenship and Rhomaios were not the same thing.
I know I know it jumped out at me a half a century ago when I read it.
There are lots of words that people are kept in ignorance of especially if they think they already know.
Read the whole article at:
Paul's appeal
Paul's appeal to Caesar was a legal strategy to protect Christians. He had no need to appeal because he had already as good as won the case.
While his case for the kingdom was pending before Caesar few judges appointed by Caesar would rule against Christians on the same grounds. He was sacrificing himself to make amends for his persecutions of Christians. Besides he had relatives in Rome and he was able to stay with them.
Joseph F "Gregory W you have raised very different issues from Michael P. He is lasar focused on the Biblical definition of law and social foundations like few I’ve met."
"What you say is a more traditional view. But a little too American. I think Paul made his appointment with Caesar not as a legal strategy, Roman persecution was still 20 years in the future. He was booking a sit down with Caesar which was the only thing He really cared to get out of his jail time."
"The point I was making for Michael is Paul used whatever socio-cultural connections he had, to advance the kingdom. Neither he nor Jesus saw a principle based need to renounce or remain uninvolved in the social and economic world including social/legal ties. He nor Jesus did not renounce his citizenship or tell soldiers to renounce the military or slaves to renounce masters. While Jesus might say, “sell all and follow me.” And “let the dead bury the dead” neither seemed to think being or not being a citizen soldier even Rabbi mattered. They didn’t seem to think, what today are called “structural evil’s” needed boycotts, renunciation, going AWAL or refusing to pay taxes."
Joseph F my comment to you was laser focused. 🤠
And it was not a traditional answer at all so you may have missed it. Persecutions had already begun because Paul had been doing it so your 20 year comment falls short by more than 20 years. Why do you think Paul was on trial?
I know you said "Roman persecutions" but the Pharisees had already said the had no king but Caesar and that Jesus was the king of the Jews. Paul's appeal to Caesar guaranteed protection for Christians from lower courts in Judea and many city-states who would find their rulings appealed to local Roman judges appointed by the Apotheos of Rome.
BUT:
I am curious what Michael Plaisted says about my supposed "more traditional view" since much of what he shares I wrote when he was still just a pup. 🤠
To Joseph:
"The point I was making for Michael is Paul used whatever socio-cultural connections he had, to advance the kingdom. Neither he nor Jesus saw a principle based need to renounce or remain uninvolved in the social and economic world including social/legal ties."
Jesus did "renounce and remained uninvolved in the social and economic world of the Pharisees including social/legal ties" of their Corban which was their welfare system run by their government. And He and Paul and Peter and James and all the prophets said don't eat at their tables, because their welfare is a snare and the dainties and wages of unrighteous, make you merchandise, curse children.
But more important is to seek the kingdom of God and the Corban of Christ. https://preparingyou.com/wiki/Corban_of_Christ
Jesus and Moses were capitalists. Why would anyone object to commerce which is defined as: “the exchanging, buying, or selling of things having economic value between two or more entities, for example goods, services, and money"
Certainly if money is used it should be just weights and measures.
Michael P you can be a subject of Rome and be a Christian. you could be a soldier, a slave, a prisoner. What makes you a Christian is repentance which means "thinking differently". And seeking the kingdom of God and His righteousness. The thinking differently would be thinking like Christ according to the "word" which is the "Logos" of Christ.
If we had the Logos of Christ we would not covet, we would gather to serve others, we would not oppress others. we would forgive, we would do the will of the Father. We would lay down our life for our fellow man if our Father calls us to.
The modern Christian covets his neighbor's goods through men who exercise authority[1] which is the opposite of Christ. They are doing so many things the Christ oppose and not doing some of the basics that Christ commanded. This is why we write and talk about the Gospel of the kingdom and the Logos of Christ.
https://preparingyou.com/wiki/Logos
Archbishop Vigano speaks on the Great reset, Klause Schwab, and the WEF.
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/yu1UqMSs3ije3UhB/
Why does he not tell the people to seek the real kingdom of God in the Tens like Christ commanded his disciples and create the social bonds of a free people through the practice of pure Religion rather the covetous practices of public religion through the State which the Catholic Church has encouraged for years even though the Bible tells us it is a snare, Jesus says it makes the word of God to none effect and we should not be that way,[1] and Paul tells us to eat not of those tables for they are idolatry,[3] and Peter says they will make us merchandise and curse Children. https://preparingyou.com/wiki/Pure_religion
- ↑ 1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 1.4 Not exercise authority
- Matthew 20:25 "But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Ye know that the princes of the Gentiles exercise dominion over them, and they that are great exercise authority upon them. But it shall not be so among you:..."
- Mark 10:42 "But Jesus called them to him, and saith unto them, Ye know that they which are accounted to rule over the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and their great ones exercise authority upon them. But so shall it not be among you:..."
- Luke 22:25 "And he said unto them, The kings of the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and they that exercise authority upon them are called benefactors. But ye [shall] not [be] so:..."
- ↑ 2.0 2.1 Touch not
- 2 Corinthians 6:17 "Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean [thing]; and I will receive you,"
- Colossians 2:21 "(Touch not; taste not; handle not;(rudiments of the world,) 22 Which all are to perish with the using;) after the commandments(precept) and doctrines of men?"
- Romans 11:9 "And David saith, Let their table be made a snare, and a trap, and a stumblingblock, and a recompence unto them:"
- 1 Corinthians 10:21 "Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lord’s table, and of the table of devils."
- Numbers 16:21 "Separate yourselves from among this congregation, that I may consume them in a moment... 26 And he spake unto the congregation, saying, Depart, I pray you, from the tents of these wicked men, and touch nothing of theirs, lest ye be consumed in all their sins... 45 Get you up from among this congregation, that I may consume them as in a moment. And they fell upon their faces."
- Ezra 6:21 "And the children of Israel, which were come again out of captivity, and all such as had separated themselves unto them from the filthiness of the heathen of the land, to seek the LORD God of Israel, did eat,"
- Ezra 10:11 "Now therefore make confession unto the LORD God of your fathers, and do his pleasure: and separate yourselves from the people of the land, and from the strange wives."
- Isaiah 52:11 "Depart ye, depart ye, go ye out from thence, touch no unclean [thing]; go ye out of the midst of her; be ye clean, that bear the vessels of the LORD. 12 For ye shall not go out with haste, nor go by flight: for the LORD will go before you; and the God of Israel [will be] your rereward."reward of unrighteousness
- Proverbs 9:6 "Forsake the foolish, and live; and go in the way of understanding."
- Jeremiah 51:6 "Flee out of the midst of Babylon, and deliver every man his soul: be not cut off in her iniquity; for this [is] the time of the LORD’S vengeance; he will render unto her a recompence."
- Revelation 18:4 "And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues."
- John 6:37 "All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out. 38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me."
- ↑ 3.0 3.1 Covetousness is idolatry
- Colossians 3:5 "Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry: 6 For which things’ sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience:"
- Ephesians 5:5 "For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God."
- 1 Corinthians 5:10 "Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world. 11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat."
- For it is written that the tables of dainties provided by rulers of the world are a snare because they cause the masses to bite one another through government systems of legal charity which are covetous practices which are a form of fornication or adultery where the people are devoured as merchandise, curse children and are "entangled again in the yoke of bondage" with the aid of the false religion of the whore who rides the beast.
- ↑ Covet not
- Exodus 20:17 "Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that [is] thy neighbour’s."
- Deuteronomy 5:21 "Neither shalt thou desire thy neighbour’s wife, neither shalt thou covet thy neighbour’s house, his field, or his manservant, or his maidservant, his ox, or his ass, or any [thing] that [is] thy neighbour’s."
- Micah 2:2 "And they covet fields, and take [them] by violence; and houses, and take [them] away: so they oppress a man and his house, even a man and his heritage." Property and inheritance tax.
- Habakkuk 2:9 "Woe to him that coveteth an evil covetousness to his house, that he may set his nest on high, that he may be delivered from the power of evil! 10 Thou hast consulted shame to thy house by cutting off many people, and hast sinned against thy soul."
- Mark 7:20 "And he said, That which cometh out of the man, that defileth the man. 21 For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders, 22 Thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness: 23 All these evil things come from within, and defile the man."
- Romans 7:7 "What shall we say then? [Is] the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet."
- Romans 13:9 "For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if [there be] any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself."
- 1 Corinthians 5:10 "Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world. 11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat."
- 1 Corinthians 6:10 "Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God." See Not inherit the kingdom
- Ephesians 5:5 "For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God." See Not inherit the kingdom
- 2 Timothy 3:2 "For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, 4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; 5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. 6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, 7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
- 2 Peter 2:3 "And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not."
- 2 Peter 2:14 "Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children:"
- Colossians 3:5 "Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry:"
- ↑ Kingdom Taken
- Matthew 2:6 "And thou Bethlehem, [in] the land of Juda, art not the least among the princes of Juda: for out of thee shall come a Governor(2233), that shall rule my people Israel."
- Matthew 9:16 "No man putteth a piece of new cloth unto an old garment, for that which is put in to fill it up taketh from the garment, and the rent is made worse. 17 Neither do men put new wine into old bottles: else the bottles break, and the wine runneth out, and the bottles perish: but they put new wine into new bottles, and both are preserved." Jesus did not just reform the kingdom.
- Matthew 21:43 "Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof." Jesus would take it as priest and king.
- Luke 13:9 "And if it bear fruit, [well]: and if not, [then] after that thou shalt cut it down." The Corbans of the world were covetous practices
- John 19:15...19 "But they cried out, Away with [him], away with [him], crucify him. Pilate saith unto them, Shall I crucify your King? The chief priests answered, We have no king but Caesar." The kingdom taken by the words of their own mouth.
- John 15:4 "Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me." The people must seek The Way.
- John 15:8 "Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples."
- Luke 12:32 "Fear not, little flock; for it is your Father’s good pleasure to give you the kingdom."
- Luke 22:29 "And I appoint unto you a kingdom, as my Father hath appointed unto me;"
- Mark 15:26 And the superscription of his accusation was written over, THE KING OF THE JEWS."
- Acts 17:7 "Whom Jason hath received: and these all do contrary to the decrees of Caesar, saying that there is another king, one Jesus."
- 1 Peter 2:9 "But ye [are] a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:"
- See Taking and Giving the Kingdom
- ↑ Appoint a kingdom
- Matthew 21:43 "Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof."
- Luke 12:32 "Fear not, little flock; for it is your Father’s good pleasure to give you the kingdom."
- Luke 22:29 "And I appoint unto you a kingdom, as my Father hath appointed unto me;"
- John 19:15 But they cried out, Away with [him], away with [him], crucify him. Pilate saith unto them, Shall I crucify your King? The chief priests answered, We have no king but Caesar.