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There is the word παιδεύω or paideuo which appears as ''teach'' a few times but means to ''chastise''. And there is the word σωφρονίζω or sophronizo that appears as a verb and also as an adjective which has to do with ''bringing one to their senses''.
There is the word παιδεύω or paideuo which appears as ''teach'' a few times but means to ''chastise''. And there is the word σωφρονίζω or sophronizo that appears as a verb and also as an adjective which has to do with ''bringing one to their senses''.


Because of some of our statements about Sacrifice and altars and what the confusion and conflict between Pharisees and Christ was some accuse us of saying there was no sacrifice. Nothing could be farther from the truth.
Because of some of our statements about Sacrifice and [[altars]] and what the confusion and conflict between Pharisees and Christ was some accuse us of saying there was no sacrifice. Nothing could be farther from the truth.


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The deal is I must freely share with others, fast and pray. I am not here to prove any one wrong or me right. I am here to share, and bear witness.
The deal is I must freely share with others, fast and pray. I am not here to prove any one wrong or me right. I am here to share, and bear witness.


The law says we should not covet and peter says through covetousness we would be made merchandise and Paul quotes David who says what should have been for or welfare has become a snare and Jesus tells us to pray to our Father in heaven and call no man on earth Father and of course not to be like the rulers of the other nations who call themselves Benefactors but exercise authority.
The law says we should not covet and peter says through covetousness we would be made merchandise and Paul quotes David who says what should have been for or [[welfare]] has become a snare and Jesus tells us to pray to our Father in heaven and call no man on earth Father and of course not to be like the rulers of the other nations who call themselves Benefactors but exercise authority.


We will not get the right answers until we admit we need the Holy Spirit to give us the right [[Some_Questions|questions]].
We will not get the right answers until we admit we need the Holy Spirit to give us the right [[Some_Questions|questions]].

Revision as of 12:33, 20 August 2014

I believe there is enough in the Bible to understand the gospel.

There is nothing that is essential that is really omitted that should keep you from understanding the Bible.

What is missing is understanding the full meaning of the words of the Old testament and a willingness to see that we can be wrong about what we think is true. This is the same reason you had Sadducees, Pharisees and Essenes along with lots of other sects and denominations. And why the Pharisee and many others could not except the true teachings of Christ today.

People talk about love and faith and believing in Jesus but the Pharisees said the same about Moses and Abraham but they were so much in conflict with Christ's doctrines and teachings that they wanted to trap him, accuse him, arrest him and kill him.

They same conflict arose between Christians and Romans as the Gospel of the kingdom Spread. What was that conflict?

They just did not want to see the truth because they would have to change their thinking, their minds to do so. They did not want to repent.

The word doctrine and teaching is the same. The Greek verb διδάσκω is just about the only word in the New Testament used to produce the words teach or teachings or doctrines.

Some have said that Jesus did not find error in the doctrines of the Pharisees but only their teachings.

To suggest that there is a difference between the ideas of teachings and doctrines based on translations into English words is absurd and not an example of reasoning but rationalization.

There is the word παιδεύω or paideuo which appears as teach a few times but means to chastise. And there is the word σωφρονίζω or sophronizo that appears as a verb and also as an adjective which has to do with bringing one to their senses.

Because of some of our statements about Sacrifice and altars and what the confusion and conflict between Pharisees and Christ was some accuse us of saying there was no sacrifice. Nothing could be farther from the truth.

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No one is saying that there was no sacrifice. There was sacrifice and from the beginning there were also stone altars but most of the time in the early text the talk about stone altars was about living stones which had a purpose and a mission in society just like the early Church. Those altars of living stone served a purpose that was an alternative Welfare methods of Cain Nimrod and the Caesars of the world.

The same word in Hebrew you see as a gathering of stones is a "gathering of friends", men you trust.

These words in Hebrew had multiple meanings based on the letters or charaters the produced the word.

Like killing a dove to make recompense for your sin. The same word in Hebrew for dove is the word for a "piece of your estate". But to the Pharisees they wanted to believe they were to kill a dove not give up a piece of their estate. You do not have to re-translate the bible just understand the language and its metaphor.

The word Corban is from the Hebrew word meaning sacrifice which comes from the idea of drawing near. We have gone from the character of God and fail to love one another which often means sacrifice and particularly a freewill sacrifice. The Pharisees were changing that and John, Jesus, Peter and Paul preached against what they were saying, teaching, or saying was now okay.

The Romans had done the same with their Qorban and it is why there was a conflict between Christians and the Roman government. The Christians were practicing "private religion" and the Romans outlawed private religion. Christians would not sign up for the public religions of the Romans because that would be calling the state their father. their benefactor, and Jesus said we were not to be that way.

Modern Christians are doing everyday what early Christians would not do. They do this because of the doctrines, teachings and opinions of modern Christians and Jews which also in conflict with Christ.

If you read the article on Corban I have already posted you would or could see that your modern Corban is identical to the Pharisees and in conflict with Christ and his teachings and doctrines. You would have to be willing to see the truth and willing to repent. If not you will rationalize that there must be no evidence.

There is a world of evidence that modern Christians are under a strong delusion and that their faith is false and that even though they profess Christ and do great signs and wonders they are actually workers of iniquity.

But that is good news because if they will have eyes to see and ears to hear they still have time to repent and seek the kingdom of God at hand.

But alas many are more in love with their personal doctrines, teachings and opinions than they are in love with the truth, the way and the light.

There was a conflict between being a Christian and following Christ and what the governments of the World had become.

We call that the Christian_conflict

It is only people who like eating of the tree of knowledge that want to believe the Bible is perfectly translated or that they can figure out the meaning by personally studying the text.

Such is vanity.

Only the Spirit can reveal the truth and he will only write upon hearts humble enough to receive that truth. No thing or book can reveal the spirit and no mind can know God by its own efforts. Christ builds his Church upon revelation.


Some Questions

God gives us the perfect way to know him. Hebrews 10:16 "This [is] the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;" This is just a continuation and repeat of Jeremiah 31:33 "But this [shall be] the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people."

You cannot find your way back to the tree of life by merely eating of the tree of knowledge. Our intellect will not save us. God reveals himself to those who will hear Him.

The law is not done away with but the Pharisees misunderstood the law. Moses and Christ were in agreement but the Pharisees did not know him nor God nor Christ. I speak generally here because of course some Pharisees repented, like Paul.

Repenting meant changing our minds and we cannot do that without God's Holy Spirit. What I write is not written to convince you of the truth but that false prophets and certain men crept in unawares that we might believe a lie.

The law is not done away with but Christ taught a different understanding of it. If we know more about the history and events of the time we might see that many today are doing what the Pharisees did and getting the old and new testament wrong. Certainly not the whole text but a good and clever lie includes a lot of truth.That is what we have today a lot of people who study the bible and miss some essential elements of the gospel and fail to apply them in faith.

I studied the Latin and the Greek back in the early '60 and learned the opinions of scholars and wanted to believe. But I also wanted to know the truth and something was not right. When I was willing to admit I could not figure out what was wrong then God began to help me see.

The deal is I must freely share with others, fast and pray. I am not here to prove any one wrong or me right. I am here to share, and bear witness.

The law says we should not covet and peter says through covetousness we would be made merchandise and Paul quotes David who says what should have been for or welfare has become a snare and Jesus tells us to pray to our Father in heaven and call no man on earth Father and of course not to be like the rulers of the other nations who call themselves Benefactors but exercise authority.

We will not get the right answers until we admit we need the Holy Spirit to give us the right questions.


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