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Some desire to believe that ''taxation is theft'' simply because you are forced to pay it.
Some desire to believe that ''taxation is theft'' simply because you are forced to pay it.


Is the power of a state or the functional equivalent of a state limited or unlimited?
Is the power of a state or the functional equivalent of a state to tax limited or unlimited?


How does the State or its equivalent obtain a power to tax the people?
Where and how does a State get the lawful power to tax?
 
How does the State or its equivalent obtain a power to tax the people on their land?, On their labor, or on their commercial transactions?
 
While taxation could be just theft or extortion, it also could be just.
 
=== Tribute ===


[[Tribute]] is a tax mentioned in the [[Bible]] and has always been deemed a [[patrimonial]] right.
[[Tribute]] is a tax mentioned in the [[Bible]] and has always been deemed a [[patrimonial]] right.


How does the [[patrimonial]] right of a [[father]] end up in the hands of the [[State]]?
How does the [[patrimonial]] right of a natural [[father]] end up in the hands of the [[State]]?


The [[Bible]] says that the [[slothful]] should be under [[tribute]].
The [[Bible]] says that the [[slothful]] should be under [[tribute]].


So are you under [[tribute]] as a result of theft or a result of you being  [[sloth]]ful?
So are people under [[tribute]] as a result of theft or a result of being  [[sloth]]ful?
 
And then we can ask slothful in what?
 
 
Jesus said call no man on earth father. He certainly was talking about our natural father's who he tells us to honor
 
Was he talking about the state as your [[father]] ?


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== Tax the rich ==
== Tax the rich ==



Revision as of 20:42, 21 November 2022

Is Taxation theft
or
Is Taxation justice,
When you have not been just?

The truth is that people seale their fate when they decide to obtain benefits at the expense of your neighbor by applying to men who call themselves benefactors but "exercise authority one over the other".
From public schools to Social Security people sold themselves slaves, made themselves merchandise and cursed their own children through covetous practices which is a snare.
There is a solution but you would have to be willing "to think a different way" and seek a "different form of government" without being slothful in righteousness.
How are roads, sewers, electric, water systems, and military protection paid for? In a pure republic they can be provide for by voluntary associations, cooperatives and occasionally commercial enterprises. Early public schools and roads were often built by the militia and privately funded through charity.
Inflation is the ultimate taxation that begins when you bite your neighbor to get free stuff but ends with you being devoured.

Taxation

A tax is defined as "a compulsory contribution to state revenue, levied by the government on workers' income and business profits or added to the cost of some goods, services, and transactions." As a verb it is defined "impose a tax on (someone or something)."

The word levy is from the old French lever "to lift"

A tax (from the Latin taxo) is a financial charge or other levy imposed upon a taxpayer (an individual or legal entity) by a state or the functional equivalent of a state to fund various public expenditures.

We are told that the primary purpose of taxes is to raise revenue to fund a government.


Not theft

Some desire to believe that taxation is theft simply because you are forced to pay it.

Is the power of a state or the functional equivalent of a state to tax limited or unlimited?

Where and how does a State get the lawful power to tax?

How does the State or its equivalent obtain a power to tax the people on their land?, On their labor, or on their commercial transactions?

While taxation could be just theft or extortion, it also could be just.

Tribute

Tribute is a tax mentioned in the Bible and has always been deemed a patrimonial right.

How does the patrimonial right of a natural father end up in the hands of the State?

The Bible says that the slothful should be under tribute.

So are people under tribute as a result of theft or a result of being slothful?

And then we can ask slothful in what?


Jesus said call no man on earth father. He certainly was talking about our natural father's who he tells us to honor

Was he talking about the state as your father ?



If you have to work but you only get to keep part of the value of your labor because of taxation then you are just a human resource or literally merchandise. The Bible does not say you become merchandise because of theft but because of your covetous practices.

The Bible also says that through those same covetous practices you would curse children. Curse them with what? Debt. Every time a government raises the debt ceiling to provide you with benefits you increase the debt burden on the future of your children. So, again your children will be cursed with a heavy tax burden, not because of theft but because of your covetous practices.


If Churches operated like the early Church and instead of constructing buildings and entertaining parishioners they could take care of the widows and orphans and other needy of society through faith, hope and charity. That would be righteous. In fact when the Church cared for the needy of society without praying to the governments of the world to exercise authority over their neighbor it was called Pure Religion. That was the Gospel of the kingdom and the righteousness of God. So it is being slothful in the pursuit of the kingdom of God and His righteousness that has caused us to be taxed.



Tax the rich

People think if we tax the rich then it would be better. The problem is not a lack of taxes but overspending and covetousness.

The people need to end all welfare through the state.

The more you want to take from others the more will be taken from you.

Trying to tax the rich will only make lawyers, accountants, and politicians richer.

The people will get poorer and weaker as a community and tyrants will rule the land.

We have known how it works for thousands of years.


"The masses continue with an appetite for benefits and the habit of receiving them by way of a rule of force and violence. The people, having grown accustomed to feed at the expense of others and to depend for their livelihood on the property of others... institute the rule of violence; and now uniting their forces massacre, banish, and plunder, until they degenerate again into perfect savages and find once more a master and monarch." Polybius 150 tear before John the Baptist and Jesus preached the solution. http://preparingyou.com/wiki/Masses


If taxation is theft the right to tax became justified when "The masses continue with an appetite for benefits and the habit of receiving them by way of a rule of force and violence. The people, having grown accustomed to feed at the expense of others and to depend for their livelihood on the property of others... institute the rule of violence..." Polybius 200 Before Christ.

Back to Egypt

The 20% tax in Egypt came about because the people had not prepared for the Famine. The rich man known as the Pharaoh stored grain and all of Egypt except the priest went under a tax because they did not have enough food and needed to apply to Pharaoh. His condition in order to obtain his benefits was they had to waive a right to a portion of their labor.

Everyone literally became the Employees of the Pharaoh when they sold themselves into bondage to get his benefits.

Taxation is also the result of covetousness of you or your parents or both. The bondage of Egypt is a good example of such generational bondage. Jealousy and envy may tempt people to bite one another in covetous practices like socialism.

Taxation is justice

Taxation is justice when you have not been just.


What does it mean to not be just? It means that you either have been covetous of your neighbors goods through benefactors who exercise authority and the fathers of the earth or you have been slothful in attending to the Weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith which include caring for the needs of our neighbors and the widows and orphans of our society through Pure Religion in matters of health, education, and welfare. We are NOT to provide for the needy of society through the Covetous Practices and the men who call themselves benefactors but who exercise authority one over the other like the socialists do.

The Way of Christ was like neither the way of the world of Rome nor the governments of the gentiles who depend on those fathers of the earth through force, fear and fealty who deliver the people back in bondage again like they were in Egypt. Christ's ministers and true Christians do not depend upon systems of social welfare that force the contributions of the people like the corban of the Pharisees which made the word of God to none effect. Many people have been deceived to go the way of Balaam and the Nicolaitan and out of The Way of Christ and have become workers of iniquity.

The Christian conflict with Rome in the first century Church appointed by Christ was because they would not apply to the fathers of the earth for their free bread but instead relied upon a voluntary network providing a daily ministration to the needy of society through Faith, Hope, and Charity by way of freewill offerings of the people, for the people, and by the people through the perfect law of liberty in Free Assemblies according to the ancient pattern of Tuns or Tens as He commanded.

The modern Christians are in need of repentance.


"Follow me!" —Jesus the Christ.


What is and where does the power to tax come from?

Taxes are sometimes referred to as "direct taxes" or "indirect taxes". The meaning of these terms can vary. An economic definition states that "...direct taxes may be adjusted to the individual characteristics of the taxpayer, whereas indirect taxes are levied on transactions irrespective of the circumstances of buyer or seller."

For example, income tax is "direct", and sales tax is "indirect" according to some opinions but may have different meanings in law. In U.S. constitutional law, for instance, direct taxes refer to poll taxes and property taxes, which are based on simple existence or ownership. Indirect taxes are imposed on events, rights, privileges, and activities. Thus, a tax on the sale of property would be considered an indirect tax, whereas the tax on simply owning the property itself would be a direct tax.

The problem is that Legal title does not include the ownership.

Employment is about slavery.

Going to Public schools at the expense of your neighbor set you up to be fooled. They did not teach you about Plutarch and Polybius warnings to say nothing of John the Baptist.


Some Questions

More Questions

To find the answers, we must seek and strive to do what Jesus said the way He said to do it... Including attending to the Weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith which include caring for the needs of our neighbors and the widows and orphans of our society through Pure Religion in matters of health, education, and welfare. We are NOT to provide for the needy of society through the Covetous Practices and the men who call themselves benefactors but who exercise authority one over the other like the socialists do.

The Way of Christ was like neither the way of the world of Rome nor the governments of the gentiles who depend on those fathers of the earth through force, fear and fealty who deliver the people back in bondage again like they were in Egypt. Christ's ministers and true Christians do not depend upon systems of social welfare that force the contributions of the people like the corban of the Pharisees which made the word of God to none effect. Many people have been deceived to go the way of Balaam and the Nicolaitan and out of The Way of Christ and have become workers of iniquity.

The Christian conflict with Rome in the first century Church appointed by Christ was because they would not apply to the fathers of the earth for their free bread but instead relied upon a voluntary network providing a daily ministration to the needy of society through Faith, Hope, and Charity by way of freewill offerings of the people, for the people, and by the people through the perfect law of liberty in Free Assemblies according to the ancient pattern of Tuns or Tens as He commanded.

The modern Christians are in need of repentance.


"Follow me!" —Jesus the Christ.



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Footnotes

  1. Matthew 20:25-26 But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Ye know that the princes of the Gentiles exercise dominion over them, and they that are great exercise authority upon them. But it shall not be so among you: but whosoever will be great among you, let him be your minister;
    Mark 10:42-43 But Jesus called them to him, and saith unto them, Ye know that they which are accounted to rule over the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and their great ones exercise authority upon them. But so shall it not be among you: but whosoever will be great among you, shall be your minister:
    Luke 22:25-26 And he said unto them, The kings of the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and they that exercise authority upon them are called benefactors. But ye shall not be so: but he that is greatest among you, let him be as the younger; and he that is chief, as he that doth serve.
  2. Matthew 20:25-26 But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Ye know that the princes of the Gentiles exercise dominion over them, and they that are great exercise authority upon them. But it shall not be so among you: but whosoever will be great among you, let him be your minister;
    Mark 10:42-43 But Jesus called them to him, and saith unto them, Ye know that they which are accounted to rule over the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and their great ones exercise authority upon them. But so shall it not be among you: but whosoever will be great among you, shall be your minister:
    Luke 22:25-26 And he said unto them, The kings of the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and they that exercise authority upon them are called benefactors. But ye shall not be so: but he that is greatest among you, let him be as the younger; and he that is chief, as he that doth serve.