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[[https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/ecc/4/1/s_663001]] ¶ So I returned, and considered all the oppressions that are done under the sun: and behold the tears of such as were oppressed, and they had no comforter; and on the side of their oppressors there was power; but they had no comforter.
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| "I returned, and considered all the oppressions..." from ‘ashuq(עָשׁוּק‎)AyinShinVavKuf<Ref name="ashuwq7">{{06217}}</Ref> which appears in the text as hā‘ăšuqîm (הָ֣עֲשֻׁקִ֔ים) HeyAyinShinKufYodMem ‎which can mean oppression in the sense of ''extortion'' "the practice of obtaining something, especially money, through [[force]] or threats.".
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| V6 "Better is an handful with quietness" meaning "rest, quietness".<Ref name="Nachath">{{05183}}</Ref> We need to rest from the willful wisdom of our own hearts.
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== The Evil of Oppression Evil Under the Sun ==
 
1 ¶ So I returned, and considered all the oppressions that are done under the sun: and behold the tears of such as were oppressed, and they had no comforter; and on the side of their oppressors there was power; but they had no comforter<[[05162]] ''repentance''>.


2 Wherefore I praised the dead which are already dead more than the living which are yet alive.
2 Wherefore I praised the dead which are already dead more than the living which are yet alive.
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4 Again, I considered all travail, and every right work, that for this a man is envied of his neighbour. This is also vanity and vexation of spirit.
4 Again, I considered all travail, and every right work, that for this a man is envied of his neighbour. This is also vanity and vexation of spirit.


5 The fool foldeth his hands together, and eateth his own flesh.
=== Eat you own flesh ===
 
5 The fool foldeth his hands together, and eateth his own flesh.<Ref name="eatbite">{{eatbite}}</Ref>


6 Better is an handful with quietness, than both the hands full with travail and vexation of spirit.
6 Better is an handful with quietness<Ref name="Nachath">{{05183}}</Ref>, than both the hands full with travail and vexation of spirit.


7 Then I returned, and I saw vanity under the sun.
7 Then I returned, and I saw vanity under the sun.
=== One alone vs Two together ===


8 There is one alone, and there is not a second; yea, he hath neither child nor brother: yet is there no end of all his labour; neither is his eye satisfied with riches; neither saith he, For whom do I labour, and bereave my soul of good? This is also vanity, yea, it is a sore travail.
8 There is one alone, and there is not a second; yea, he hath neither child nor brother: yet is there no end of all his labour; neither is his eye satisfied with riches; neither saith he, For whom do I labour, and bereave my soul of good? This is also vanity, yea, it is a sore travail.
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12 And if one prevail against him, two shall withstand him; and a threefold cord is not quickly broken.
12 And if one prevail against him, two shall withstand him; and a threefold cord is not quickly broken.


13 Better is a poor and a wise child than an old and foolish king, who will no more be admonished.
== The Futility of Power ==
 
=== The poor and the foolish ===
 
13 Better is a poor and a wise child than an old and foolish king, who will no more be admonished.<Ref name="zahar">{{02094}}</Ref>


14 For out of prison he cometh to reign; whereas also he that is born in his kingdom becometh poor.
14 For out of prison he cometh to reign; whereas also he that is born in his kingdom becometh poor.
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Jesus was called teacher. Abraham, Moses, and Jesus were all teaching the people The Way of God and His righteousness. Jesus came to take the kingdom from those who were teaching something different from Moses and appointed it to the Apostles so that they would bear fruit and the world might be saved through repentance.
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"I returned, and considered all the oppressions..." from ‘ashuq(עָשׁוּק‎)AyinShinVavKuf[1] which appears in the text as hā‘ăšuqîm (הָ֣עֲשֻׁקִ֔ים) HeyAyinShinKufYodMem ‎which can mean oppression in the sense of extortion "the practice of obtaining something, especially money, through force or threats.".
V5 "eateth his own flesh"[2] is parallel to the idea of those who consent to One purse and are snared in their own net [3] or as you judge so shall ye be judged.[4]
V6 "Better is an handful with quietness" meaning "rest, quietness".[5] We need to rest from the willful wisdom of our own hearts.
V9 and V12 We should not be a man alone who only works for himself. We were not meant to be alone. Remember the "Preacher" is the word "gatherer".
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V13 "poor and a wise child than an old and foolish king"
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The Evil of Oppression Evil Under the Sun

1 ¶ So I returned, and considered all the oppressions that are done under the sun: and behold the tears of such as were oppressed, and they had no comforter; and on the side of their oppressors there was power; but they had no comforter<05162 repentance>.

2 Wherefore I praised the dead which are already dead more than the living which are yet alive.

3 Yea, better is he than both they, which hath not yet been, who hath not seen the evil work that is done under the sun.

4 Again, I considered all travail, and every right work, that for this a man is envied of his neighbour. This is also vanity and vexation of spirit.

Eat you own flesh

5 The fool foldeth his hands together, and eateth his own flesh.[2]

6 Better is an handful with quietness[5], than both the hands full with travail and vexation of spirit.

7 Then I returned, and I saw vanity under the sun.

One alone vs Two together

8 There is one alone, and there is not a second; yea, he hath neither child nor brother: yet is there no end of all his labour; neither is his eye satisfied with riches; neither saith he, For whom do I labour, and bereave my soul of good? This is also vanity, yea, it is a sore travail.

9 Two are better than one; because they have a good reward for their labour.

10 For if they fall, the one will lift up his fellow: but woe to him that is alone when he falleth; for he hath not another to help him up.

11 Again, if two lie together, then they have heat: but how can one be warm alone?

12 And if one prevail against him, two shall withstand him; and a threefold cord is not quickly broken.

The Futility of Power

The poor and the foolish

13 Better is a poor and a wise child than an old and foolish king, who will no more be admonished.[6]

14 For out of prison he cometh to reign; whereas also he that is born in his kingdom becometh poor.

15 I considered all the living which walk under the sun, with the second child that shall stand up in his stead.

16 There is no end of all the people, even of all that have been before them: they also that come after shall not rejoice in him. Surely this also is vanity and vexation of spirit.

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  1. 06217 ^קושׁע^ ‘ashuwq \@aw-shook’\@ or ^קשׁע^ ‘ashuq \@aw-shook’\@ passive participle of 06231; n m; {See TWOT on 1713 @@ "1713d"} AV-oppression 2, oppressed 1; 3
    1) oppression, extortion
  2. 2.0 2.1 Bite not
    Ecclesiastes 4:5 "The fool foldeth his hands together, and eateth his own flesh."
    Proverbs 6:10 "[Yet] a little sleep, a little slumber, a little folding of the hands to sleep: 11 So shall thy poverty come as one that travelleth, and thy want as an armed man."
    Proverbs 20:4 "The sluggard will not plow by reason of the cold; [therefore] shall he beg in harvest, and [have] nothing."
    Proverbs 24:33 "[Yet] a little sleep, a little slumber, a little folding of the hands to sleep: 34 So shall thy poverty come [as] one that travelleth; and thy want as an armed man."
    Proverbs 11:17 "The merciful man doeth good to his own soul: but [he that is] cruel troubleth his own flesh."
    Isaiah 9:20 "And he shall snatch on the right hand, and be hungry; and he shall eat on the left hand, and they shall not be satisfied: they shall eat every man the flesh of his own arm:"
    Isaiah 9:20 "And he shall snatch on the right hand, and be hungry; and he shall eat on the left hand, and they shall not be satisfied: they shall eat every man the flesh of his own arm:"
    Ezekiel 11:3 "Which say, [It is] not near; let us build houses: this [city is] the caldron, and we [be] the flesh... 11 This [city] shall not be your caldron, neither shall ye be the flesh in the midst thereof; [but] I will judge you in the border of Israel:"
    Micah 3:3 "Who also eat the flesh of my people, and flay their skin from off them; and they break their bones, and chop them in pieces, as for the pot, and as flesh within the caldron."
    Galatians 5:14 "For all the law is fulfilled in one word, [even] in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 15 But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another."
    2 Corinthians 11:20 "For ye suffer, if a man bring you into bondage, if a man devour [you], if a man take [of you], if a man exalt himself, if a man smite you on the face."
    The ultimate bondage is to hate your neighbor through the error of Balaam because we fail to forgive which is the consuming fire of Exodus 33 and the Raca of Matthew 5 that brings the judgement and wrath of God.
  3. Table as a snare
    Psalms 69:22-23 “Let their table become a snare before them: and that which should have been for their welfare, let it become a trap. 23 Let their eyes be darkened, that they see not; and make their loins continually to shake."”
    Romans 11:9 “And David saith, Let their table be made a snare, and a trap, and a stumblingblock, and a recompence unto them:”
    Proverbs 23:1 "When thou sittest to eat with a ruler, consider diligently what [is] before thee: 2 And put a knife to thy throat, if thou be a man given to appetite. 3 Be not desirous of his dainties: for they are deceitful meat."
    Exodus 23:32 "Thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor with their gods. 33 They shall not dwell in thy land, lest they make thee sin against me: for if thou serve their gods, it will surely be a snare unto thee."
    Exodus 34:12 "Take heed to thyself, lest thou make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land whither thou goest, lest it be for a snare in the midst of thee:"
    Deuteronomy 7:16 "And thou shalt consume all the people which the LORD thy God shall deliver thee; thine eye shall have no pity upon them: neither shalt thou serve their gods; for that [will be] a snare unto thee."
    Judges 2:2 "And ye shall make no league [covenant] with the inhabitants of this land; ye shall throw down their altars: but ye have not obeyed my voice: why have ye done this?"
    Proverbs 1:10 "My son, if sinners entice thee, consent thou not."
    Proverbs 6:2 “Thou art snared with the words of thy mouth, thou art taken with the words of thy mouth.” Swear not
    Luke 21:34 "And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and [so] that day come upon you unawares. 35 For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth."
    1 Timothy 6:9 "But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and [into] many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition. 10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows."
  4. Judge not
    Matthew 7:1 "Judge not, that ye be not judged. 2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again."
    Luke 6:37 "Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: [forgive], and ye shall be forgiven:"
    John 7:24 "Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment."
    Isaiah 1:23 "Thy princes [are] rebellious, and companions of thieves: every one loveth gifts, and followeth after rewards: they judge not the fatherless, neither doth the cause of the widow come unto them." See Pure Religion.
    John 12:47 "And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge(2919) him not: for I came not to judge(2919) the world, but to save the world. 48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day."
  5. 5.0 5.1 05183 נַחַת‎ Nachath [nakh’-ath] from 05182 and 05181 descend, bring down; n f/n m; [BDB-629a, BDB-639b] [{See TWOT on 1323 @@ "1323a" }] [{See TWOT on 1351 @@ "1351a" }] AV-rest 4, set on 1, quietness 1, quiet 1, lighting down 1; 8
    1) rest, quietness
    1a) quietness, quiet attitude
    1b) rest (of death)
    2) descent (of judgment)
  6. 02094 זָהַר‎ zahar [zaw-har’] a primitive root; v; [BDB-263b, BDB-264a] [{See TWOT on 531 }] [{See TWOT on 532 }] AV-warn 18, admonish 2, teach 1, shine 1; 22
    1) to admonish, warn, teach, shine, send out light, be light, be shining
    1a) (Niphal) to be taught, be admonished
    1b) (Hiphil)
    1b1) to teach, warn
    1b2) to shine, send out light (fig.)