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Mr. MB on Facebook wrote concerning our articles on Corban: : "I disproved your "corban" teaching using actual Jewish records (showing that Corban is not, nor has it ever been a welfare program - it was funds used exclusively for temple upkeep and public city construction - but NEVER for private welfare)."
Mr. MB did not disproved the meaning of "corban" teaching at all. He quoted the Talmud. Everyone who knows Christ and the Bible knows that many of the Jews had it wrong. Many Jewish scholars did not have eyes to see the message of Christ back then and the same is true today for Christians and Jews.
The idea that Corban was not a part of social welfare of Judea and certainly Israel is blatantly false.
"The treasury Flavius Josephus describes as Corbonas is known from Jewish sources as Qorban, and Jewish law permitted the use of money from this treasures for social welfare and public works (Mishna Šeqalim 4.2)." Cite error: Closing </ref>
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Many Christian scholars do not agree on what Christ meant and said about many things. Faith is a gift. Understanding the gospel is a gift. It is clear that Mr. MB does not have eyes to see nor ears to see the true gospel.
http://www.hisholychurch.org/sermon/corban.php
Judea like modern Christianity was in apostasy just like you Michael. Mr. MB, like many Modern Christians, wants to think it is okay to covet your neighbor's goods as long as you do it through the governments you elect, your Benefactors of force.
Modern Christians do not want to live by charity but by forcing their neighbor to contribute to their benefit. That has always been coveting and Moses and Jesus, and John and Paul preached against that but Modern Christians cannot see it.
Mr. MB made a reference to Corban was "NEVER for private welfare". The Corban of the Pharisees was Public welfare.
For the record, which is easily viewed, we preach that people should live by faith, hope and charity. They should take care of the needy of their society by Freewill offerings in Pure Religion like James said. We preach what Jesus said when he told us in Luke 22:25 that we were not to be like the governments of the world that call themselves Benefactors but exercise authority one over the other. That is what Jesus clearly said and John and all the apostles said and did.
We have never ever preached against the governments of the World. We know they are needed to keep the wicked and greedy covetous people in line and of course the "false accuser" who do not have Christ in them nor eyes to see nor ears to hear His simple message of real love. Not the impedent fruitless love you feel in modern churches.
200 years ago almost all social welfare was provided by churches. Today, most people go to governments of the world to obtain the benefits they desire from free education to health care. The modern social security systems of the world depend on the sacrifices of the people to provide for their "needy and elderly, including their own parents. Israel and many nations had such systems. Judea called it Corban and Rome called it Qorban and Muslims call it Korban.
They are all systems that require the sacrifice of the people. The difference between a godly or free nation and the ones that make the word of God to none effect is that in a free nation that sacrifice is by Freewill offerings or what Jesus called love and Paul called charity.
We at His Church teach that if you owe the tax pay the tax just like Jesus, Peter and Paul said but we also teach that if you need help or assistance you should obtain it by the freewill offerings of your neighbor through congregations bound by love, not by force. You should not apply or pray to those Benefactors who exercise authority one over the other, nor the Fathers of the earth like false Christians do.
Since it has always been the obligation and duty of man to take care of the needy there must be a manner in which that is done in any godly society. That is what Religion use to mean. And Pure Religion is taking care of the needy unspotted by the World.
The apostles were appointed a government and the Church is defined still today as one form of government. We at His Church seek to live in the World but not of it. We know there is another way to provide for one another which the Modern Church has strayed from.
Christ preached a kingdom and appointed it to His little flock and they provided for the people in charity.
Acts 17:7 Whom Jason hath received: and these all do contrary to the decrees of Caesar, saying that there is another king, [one] Jesus.
This private Religion of Christianity was at the root of the Christian conflict because real Christians would not covet their neighbor's goods or any thing that was their neighbors.
http://www.preparingyou.com/wiki/Covetous_Practices
Even when Mr. MB said "your interpretation of "exousia" is completely in error, that exousia does NOT mean "liberty," but "authority"..." he gave his black heart and prejudice away.
The word exousia is translated "liberty" in the Bible and also "right" because it means the "right to choose". In Plato's notes, the "Greek words for freedom (are) eleutheros (liberal/Free), exousia (Freedom/Power to do something), ..." In Bryn Mawr's Classical Review, the word exousia is said to express “the new concept of freedom, in opposition to the already defunct and unhelpful eleutheria." Even the Greek Glossary of Aristotelian Terms states that exousia means "right". Aristotle actually exemplifies exousia's use in the statement, "The right (exousia) to do anything one wishes..." There are quotes saying the same thing concerning both classical and Koine Greek but Mr Black does not want to see the truth.
We are endowed by our Creator with the right to choose but when you make contracts and agreements with Benefactors who exercise authority you give up your right to choose. That is a major theme of the Old and New Testaments from the Ten Commandments to the choice of Saul as king In 1 Samuel 8 where God said the people have already rejected me.
Modern Christians like Mr MB actually reject God everyday. That is why they are forever studying but never coming to a knowledge of the truth.
2 Timothy 3:7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
They give the power to choose for them to the Saul's and Nimrods of the World in order to feel safe and get benefits and then complain about the fact that they take and take and take.
Terms of the Times
From the book The Higher Liberty, Sec. 4
http://www.hisholychurch.org/media/books/THL/termsofthetimes.php
Someone else commented that "Romans 13 is talking about christian leaders....." But Christ was king of a government that operated by freewill offerings just like early Israel not like the temple tax imposed by men like Herod and the Pharisees.
Christ said he would take the kingdom away from the Pharisees who were not bearing fruit and give it to His "little flock", which he did. When he appointed that kingdom to what we call the Church they were not to provide for the needy by force like the gentile governments but by charity and love.
Again 200 years ago the Church did that but now most Christians get 90% of their welfare from public education to healthcare or even care for their parents from those Benefactors who exercise authority. So how can they say they are following Christ?
They are not and their churches are designed to make them feel good about disobeying Christ and coveting their neighbors goods through those other governments. Yes most of these Modern Christian ministers do not exercise authority but then they do not provide a Daily ministration by faith, hope and charity and the "Perfect law of liberty" like the early Church.
He went on to say "I wouldn't mind overthrowing the Gov't ..... by Grace (Changing Hearts).....we could do it if we appoint Christian into office. Unfortunately it seems when they get into office or on these news talk shows they loose all remembrance of scripture. "
Christians did not try to elect new Roman governors because they were the ones who were "... saying that there is another king, [one] Jesus." Acts 17:7
Thousands of Jews accepted Christ as king at Pentecost and began taking care of one another in charity in Pure Religion. In every country the officers you would elect would be those men who would exercise authority one over the other. They would be corrupted by that power you gave them just like Saul.
What we need is real Christians practicing Pure Religion but He was right, that would take a change of heart called repentance.
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