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Socialism is a noun defined as a "political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole."
Socialism is a noun defined as a "political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole."
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“Under a democratic government, the citizens exercise the powers of sovereignty; and those powers will be first abused, and afterwards lost, if they are committed to an unwieldy multitude.”<Ref> Edward Gibbon, The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, 1776.</Ref>
“Under a democratic government, the citizens exercise the powers of sovereignty; and those powers will be first abused, and afterwards lost, if they are committed to an unwieldy multitude.”<Ref> Edward Gibbon, The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, 1776.</Ref>


“Thou shalt not follow a multitude to [do] evil; neither shalt thou speak in a cause to decline after many to wrest [judgment]:” Exodus 23:2  
* “Thou shalt not follow a multitude to [do] evil; neither shalt thou speak in a cause to decline after many to wrest [judgment]:” Exodus 23:2  


: “A simple democracy is the devil’s own government.”<Ref>Benjamin Rush, John Joachim Zubly, pastor and delegate to Congress, in a 1788 letter to David Ramsay. William Elder, Questions of the Day, (Baird publisher, 1871) p.175. Also attributed to Jefferson & Jedidiah Morse.</Ref>
: “A simple democracy is the devil’s own government.”<Ref>Benjamin Rush, John Joachim Zubly, pastor and delegate to Congress, in a 1788 letter to David Ramsay. William Elder, Questions of the Day, (Baird publisher, 1871) p.175. Also attributed to Jefferson & Jedidiah Morse.</Ref>


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== Sacrificed to Idols ==
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==Footnotes== <references />
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: “I’m enjoying the irony of American Sanders supporters lecturing me, a former Soviet citizen, on the glories of Socialism and what it really means! Socialism sounds great in speech soundbites and on Facebook, but please keep it there. In practice, it corrodes not only the economy but the human spirit itself, and the ambition and achievement that made modern capitalism possible and brought billions of people out of poverty. Talking about Socialism is a huge luxury, a luxury that was paid for by the successes of capitalism.” Garry Kimovich Kasparov is a Russian chess Grandmaster, former World Chess Champion, writer, and political activist, considered by many to be the greatest chess player of all time.

Revision as of 09:56, 17 April 2016

Socialism is a noun defined as a "political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole."

Its synonyms are listed as: leftism, welfarism; radicalism, progressivism, social democracy; communism, Marxism,

It has been said that “Under Capitalism man exploits man; under Socialism the process is reversed.”

"Socialism works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it, and hell where they already have It." --Ronald Reagan

Socialism as a "political and economic" system requires that the people give power to the state to take away from those who have to give to those who think they do not have enough. It is rooted in coveting your neighbor's goods and possessions for your personal benefit. The men who exercise force to redistribute the wealth of that "political and economic" system call themselves Benefactors.

Democracy

Somewhere along the way, some people began to believe that we collectively had the right to decide what was good and evil, not only for ourselves, but for our neighbor, as well. We called it democracy.

In early America, the success and prosperity of the people was, no doubt in part, due to the fact that “The churches in New England were so many nurseries of freemen, training them in the principles of self-government and accustoming them to the feeling of independence. In these petty organizations were developed, in practice, the principles of individual and national freedom. Each church was a republic in embryo. The fiction became a fact, the abstraction a reality...”[1]

Part 4: The kingdom of God, socialism, democracy and tyranny ~5 min

Americans have moved from a virtuous self reliant republic to covetous “democracy in a republic.”[2] This process is done more by contract, application, and participation than by vote.

The people have become a nation of consumers, who willing bite their neighbor for their own personal security. People have fallen in love with the benefits offered by democracy. But at what price?

James Madison, 1787, stated in the Federalist Paper #10 that “Democracy is the most vile form of government ... democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention: have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property: and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths.” Fisher Ames, an author of the First Amendment, said, “A democracy is a volcano which conceals the fiery materials of its own destruction. These will produce an eruption and carry desolation in their way.” In 1815 John Adams: “Democracy... while it lasts is more bloody than either [aristocracy or monarchy]. Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There is never a democracy that did not commit suicide.”

John Marshall, longest serving Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, “Between a balanced Republic and a democracy, the difference is like that between order and chaos.” Even Alexander Hamilton said “Real Liberty is never found in despotism or in the extremes of Democracy.” Benjamin Franklin warned emphatically that “When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.” He understood that a “Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote!”

Long before these men voiced their objections Plato postulated “Dictatorship naturally arises out of democracy...” And long after Adams, Ralph Waldo Emerson said “Democracy is morose, and runs to anarchy.” Winston Churchill wrote that: “Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.” He went on to say that “The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.”

More recently historian and Congressman Ron Paul said “Our country’s founders cherished liberty, not democracy.” I did find that Karl Marx, who was an advocate of communism, claimed “Democracy is the road to socialism.”

“It is difficult to understand, how any one who has read the proceedings of the Federal Convention can believe that it was the intention of that body to establish a democratic government.”[3]

“Accustomed to trampling on the rights of others you have lost the genius of your own independence and become the fit subjects of the first cunning tyrant who rises among you.”[4]

“Under a democratic government, the citizens exercise the powers of sovereignty; and those powers will be first abused, and afterwards lost, if they are committed to an unwieldy multitude.”[5]

  • “Thou shalt not follow a multitude to [do] evil; neither shalt thou speak in a cause to decline after many to wrest [judgment]:” Exodus 23:2
“A simple democracy is the devil’s own government.”[6]

Sacrificed to Idols

The Greek word eidololatrais translated idolaters would be called “Bandits, hijackers, grafters... today.”[7] The Greek word eidolothuton translated things or meats offered unto idols was produced from two Greek words eidolon meaning an image or likeness of something, and the word thuo something sacrificed.

It seems to have been invented by Christians and appears to be “the negative counterpart to Corban[8] meaning sacrifice mentioned in Mark which made the word of God to none effect when you were talking about the Corban of the Pharisees.

Corban means sacrifice and was common to all Temples. The purpose of those sacrifices was two fold, to provide for the needs of the people, and the need to care about others. Charity, love, giving, and forgiving are the foundation of the character of God and the cornerstone of His righteous society.

The sacrifices in temples were commonly divided between the priests, members, and the poor. What the priests could not consume was sold at a discount to the needy. Some temples were more like investment houses and regularly issued money. They funded trade or mining ventures and harbors, aqueducts, or roads, even war.

Temples could be institutions of charity or social insurance. Pure Religion is not only loving God but loving one another. The public Temples managed the contributions of the people. When they operated with Freewill offerings they were a blessing to the liberty of the people.

When public Temples compelled the contributions of the people they were institutions of bondage. Like Nimrod of Babylon, the Pharaoh of Egypt, and the Roman emperors, they could be a snare and trap, a stumblingblock and a recompense, an enemy of freedom.

Rome moved from a free republic to an indirect democracy, and then to a socialist dictatorship. The “middle – class [was] sandwiched between a new arid conspicuous moneyed class and a proletariat that had no other aspiration but to be kept by a Welfare State.”[9]

Religion comes from the Latin meaning to bind. The religion of society will determine the state of society. The religion of Christ binds the people by charity and love. Civil religion is the result of a social contract. When welfare of society is provided by the sword of the State, pure religion is murdered and liberty dies. An authoritarian bureaucracy of the State becomes the new ministers and priests of society. All who take by that sword will perish under that sword.

Persecution of Christians was because they were practicing Private welfare which is what early Americans did which was a key to their success.

Why were Christians persecuted so brutally by the Imperial Cult of Rome?

The Christian conflict was because those who were actually following Christ refused to apply for the social welfare offered by Rome which was sometimes called Qorban. Judea's king Herod the Great had developed a similar system called Corban which Christ condemned as making the word of God to none effect.

When the people want to use "a political and economic System" to turn their their neighbor into a human resource for their own benefit they themselves will become Merchandise. They will be entangled in the Elements of the World.

“Liberty is not collective, it is personal. All liberty is individual liberty.”[10] Individual rights given by God and the privileged power of government granted by men have been at war since Cain killed Able. “State is an end and individual is means to this end or state is means and individual is end in itself.”[11] The State’s duties never venture into the redistribution of wealth in a moral society because man was not endowed with the right to take from from his brother.
The exploitation of man is a choice in Capitalism but exploitation is built into the system of Socialism which centralizes power and encourages the Saul Syndrome while coveting other peoples sweat and toil. In Socialismeverything is part of One purse and by its nature it says it is okay to be Biting one another.
“Redistribution is immoral... it allows one person to treat another as no more than a means...”[12] The welfare state is the enemy of pure religion.[13]When pure religion diminishes, socialism flourishes.

Some people through social compact give the state the power to take from its members for the welfare of society. That power has been deemed a foolish rejection of God.[14]“It is impossible to introduce into society a greater change and a greater evil than this: the conversion of the law into an instrument of plunder.”[15] “All socialism involves slavery” [16]


Socialism is the religion people get when they lose their religion[17]

What you want is Pure Religion. Join the Network and start seeking the righteousness Christ talked about. This means they need to attend to the Weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith which include caring for the needs of our neighbors and the widows and orphans of our society through Pure Religion in matters of health, education, and welfare. We are NOT to provide for the needy of society through the Covetous Practices and the men who call themselves benefactors but who exercise authority one over the other like the socialists do.

The Way of Christ was like neither the way of the world of Rome nor the governments of the gentiles who depend on those fathers of the earth through force, fear and fealty who deliver the people back in bondage again like they were in Egypt. Christ's ministers and true Christians do not depend upon systems of social welfare that force the contributions of the people like the corban of the Pharisees which made the word of God to none effect. Many people have been deceived to go the way of Balaam and the Nicolaitan and out of The Way of Christ and have become workers of iniquity.

The Christian conflict with Rome in the first century Church appointed by Christ was because they would not apply to the fathers of the earth for their free bread but instead relied upon a voluntary network providing a daily ministration to the needy of society through Faith, Hope, and Charity by way of freewill offerings of the people, for the people, and by the people through the perfect law of liberty in Free Assemblies according to the ancient pattern of Tuns or Tens as He commanded.

The modern Christians are in need of repentance.


"Follow me!" —Jesus the Christ.


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“I will never live for the sake of another man or ask another man to live for mine” [19]

Where is Jesus Christ in what Christians are saying and are doing today?

“We must learn to distinguish between charity and socialism. Charity is good, socialism is evil. (Pr. 14:30, 31, 19:17) Charity is for the helpless poor while [the socialist's] welfare makes the poor helpless. (Ga. 2:10)”[20]

Are we Mystery Babylon ... are we Sodom

Genesis 18:20 "And the LORD said, Because the cry of Sodom and Gomorrah is great, and because their sin is very grievous;..." "Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy." Ezekiel 16:49

Socialist
Socialism | Communism | Primitive Communism |
Anarcho communism | Communist Altruism | Collectivism |
Communitarian | Community Law | Crowd psychology |
Statues | Heroes | Legal charity | Riots | Welfare |
Welfare types | Public religion | Corban | Why Socialism |
Was Jesus a socialist | Not so Secure Socialism |
covetous practices | Weightier matters | Dialectic |
Bread and circuses | gods | Deist | James Scott |
Liberalism | Classical liberalism | Transcendentalist |
Polybius | Plutarch | Perfect law of liberty | Perfect savages |
Lady Godiva | Nimrod | Cain | Bondage of Egypt |
Corvee | Nicolaitan | Benefactors | Fathers | Social bonds |
Citizen‎ | Social contract | Section 666 | Mark of the Beast |
Christian conflict | Diocletianic Persecution | Mystery Babylon |
Norway, Sweden, Finland, and Denmark | Community |
I paid in | Goats and Sheep | Shepherds | Free Keys |
Roots of the Welfare State | Cloward-Piven Strategy |
Rules For Radicals | Communist Manifesto |
Live as if the state does not exist | Departed |
Nazi | Authority | Guru theories | Larken Rose |
Capitalism | Covet | Dominionism | FEMA | Network

Not so Secure Socialism
Same old promise, Same old lie!
http://www.hisholychurch.org/news/articles/notsecuress.php
Appeared first on NewsWithViews 8-1-10

Part 4 The kingdom of God, socialism, democracy and tyranny -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=er5b9YVk-iE

Democracy
From the book The Higher Liberty, Sec. 14
http://www.hisholychurch.org/media/books/THL/democracy.php

The Decline of Freedom,
The Foundation of Tyranny
Part two of The Real Destroyers of the Liberty of the people?
http://www.hisholychurch.org/news/articles/declinefreedom.php
Appeared first on NewsWithViews 3-21-09

Defining the Lies of Democracies
Democracy! What does history tell us?
http://www.hisholychurch.org/news/articles/democracylie.php
Appeared first on NewsWithViews 9-11-10 Doom, Gloom, and Democracy
The real destroyer is our own covetousness
http://www.hisholychurch.org/news/articles/doomdemocracy.php
Appeared first on NewsWithViews 4-30-09

==Footnotes==

  1. Lives of Issac Heath and John Bowles, Elders of the Church and of John Eliot, Jr., preacher in the mid 1600’, written by J, Wingate Thorton. 1850
  2. April 3, 1918, the American creed was read in Congress, “I believe in the United States of America as a government… whose just powers are derived from the consent of the governed: a democracy in a republic.”
  3. The Spirit of American Government, Professor J. Allen Smith.
  4. Abraham Lincoln, September 11, 1858.
  5. Edward Gibbon, The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, 1776.
  6. Benjamin Rush, John Joachim Zubly, pastor and delegate to Congress, in a 1788 letter to David Ramsay. William Elder, Questions of the Day, (Baird publisher, 1871) p.175. Also attributed to Jefferson & Jedidiah Morse.
  7. Word Pictures in the New Testament : Robertson, A. T. (1863-1934)
  8. Tyndale Bulletin 44.2 (1993) 237- 254. Not so Idle thoughts about Eidolouthuton. By Ben Witherington III
  9. The Life and Times of Nero, by Carlo Maria Franzero 1954
  10. John Calvin Coolidge, Jr., 1872 – 1933, 30th President of the United States.
  11. Natural State, Welfare State or Failed State by T H Shah
  12. The Kantian ethic of capitalism. Harold B. Jones, Jr.
  13. State Welfare Spending and Religiosity, A Cross National Analysis by Anthony Gill and Erik Lundsgaarde
  14. Ex. 20:17, 1 Sa. 8; 13:13, Ro. 7:7, 13:9, Col. 3:5, Heb. 13:5, 2 Pe. 2:3-14
  15. Frederic Bastiat, 1801 – 1850, French theorist, political economist.
  16. Herbert Spencer, 1820 – 1903, an English philosopher.
  17. Richard John Neuhaus, 1936 – 2009, prominent American clergyman.
  18. Matthew 20:25-26 But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Ye know that the princes of the Gentiles exercise dominion over them, and they that are great exercise authority upon them. But it shall not be so among you: but whosoever will be great among you, let him be your minister;
    Mark 10:42-43 But Jesus called them to him, and saith unto them, Ye know that they which are accounted to rule over the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and their great ones exercise authority upon them. But so shall it not be among you: but whosoever will be great among you, shall be your minister:
    Luke 22:25-26 And he said unto them, The kings of the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and they that exercise authority upon them are called benefactors. But ye shall not be so: but he that is greatest among you, let him be as the younger; and he that is chief, as he that doth serve.
  19. Atlas Shrugged, Ayn Rand. Inscription above Galt’s Gulch powerhouse.
  20. Evangelical Bible College of Western Australia Commentary. Revelation by Dr Peter Mose [Book 97-2] July 2004
“I’m enjoying the irony of American Sanders supporters lecturing me, a former Soviet citizen, on the glories of Socialism and what it really means! Socialism sounds great in speech soundbites and on Facebook, but please keep it there. In practice, it corrodes not only the economy but the human spirit itself, and the ambition and achievement that made modern capitalism possible and brought billions of people out of poverty. Talking about Socialism is a huge luxury, a luxury that was paid for by the successes of capitalism.” Garry Kimovich Kasparov is a Russian chess Grandmaster, former World Chess Champion, writer, and political activist, considered by many to be the greatest chess player of all time.