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What is Babylon and which way is it to the exit?

A lot of people think they are exiting Babylon when they are really just getting lost in the wilderness. What is Babylon? Is it a place or is it a way?

One individual suggested that Babylon is an ecclesiastical Babylon "church" that Jesus did not establish. Others state that "Babylon is a system that encompasses the realm of economics, religion, political and social structures." Some suggest that Babylon refers to the "world" or the New World Order as a system composed of evil rulers and depots who have a Satanic or the anti Christ spirit.

Nimrod was a mighty provider who subjugated the people with offers of various benefits, appealing to the slothful nature or fleshly [[Wantonness}} of the people. Nimrod or rulers of Babylon get people to elect them as their ruler by offering to take from their neighbor to provide social benefits or Welfare.

Because the people have to pledge their service^[1] their rulers and law makers are able to borrow funds in their name which make them a surety for debt. Once the debt is established and you have become a Human Resource dissolving the bands which have connected you with another is not as easy as it might have been in 1776.

This city is the caldron, and we be the flesh.

This binding people together in a civil caldron of Bondage is a common theme of the Bible.^[2]

God provides for those who love their neighbor as themselves through Faith, Hope and Charity according to the Perfect law of liberty. If we apply or pray for benefits from Benefactors who exercise authority, instead of the Lord God of Creation, we become Merchandise. It will entangle us in the Elements of the World.

So can we Exit Babylon, and how does one do that?

People often suggest that there is some special paper work. It is true that paper evidence, which is personal testimony, can play a part but it is not an essential element. To imagine that you can throw off supposed oppressors or usurpers by filing papers cannot be a Biblical solution.

Could the Israelites in Egypt throw off the Pharaoh?
Did Jesus or John preach to throw off the government of the Pharisees?

Yes to be free and out one must give up ALL benefits of Babylon or Rome or any system where force is used to obtain benefits including, but not limited to:

voting

accepting Welfare benefits

accepting Social Security benefits

applying for licenses

use of Social Security # (bank accounts / insurance / etc, etc.)

employment with the Federal Government.

even library cards are considered benefits in most areas

You might still owe income tax if you were to get some income so I would not include giving up filing income tax returns.

But it is likely you would have none since you could not use a Social Security Number or Mark of the Beast. Using that number would be using a system of Corban that makes the word of God to none effect.

But was that God's plan?

What is the bigger picture and how do we go about about getting Babylon out of us?

Some suggest that you can control your own birth certificate. Is the answer really just about Birth registration and becoming nakedly Undocumented? As to being able to control the Birth-Certificate citizen without being surety for it, I seriously doubt that is true.

Is it about who is your Father?

Over the last half century I have seen many different process and almost all of them fail to be righteous in their legal logic. This takes us back to the questions

Could the Israelites in Egypt throw off the Pharaoh?

Did Jesus or John preach to throw off the government of the Pharisees?

No... the plan was that you learn The Way of the Kingdom of God first which is a matter requiring repentance.

To be bound by love instead of contract, faith instead of allegiance and hope trusting in charity and honor is clearly a key to the kingdom.

I see few gathering and sharing a provision for a Daily ministration.

Anyone just wanting to be free can come out and think they are free, but they will come out naked.

I have not examined every process so I cannot say for sure but the idea that one can become a government of one, and remove themselves as surety does not make much sense in any form. There is debt owed third parties for which US citizens are a surety. You say you are going to take over control of that surety note which does not leave you free by any means. It simply means you now personally owe the note and are directly answerable to the third party.

It is our own Covetous Practices that make us Merchandise. The Bible and common sense tells us they do.

If we have been made merchandise through our covetousness how do we undo that? By refusing to pay the debt we and our parents created by going to Public schools, by letting our parents take Social Security benefits, by failing to provide a daily ministration through charity... all of which people are presently guilty of many times over and worse.

Refusing to pay debt or abandoning others to pay the debt accrued by you is neither righteousness nor love.

Coming out is not where you start unless you are like the Levites or the Ministers of the early Church.

Seeking the Kingdom of God, Pure Religion, a charitable Daily ministration and the Corban of Christ is where you must begin according to all instructions and precedents.

Again I have not examined every process but I can assure all that without a Daily ministration on a broad scale like Israel and the early church or even Abraham's altars, there does not seem to be any commonality with The Way of Christ and the prophets with a plan to just get out.

What debt you may ask?

Did you go to Public schools?

Did you honor and take care of your parents or did they collect Social Security?

Did they depend on the State and the collective it rules over for their medical or any other care or benefit while the state was operating in the red [since at least 1933]?

Anyone receiving government welfare (which includes public education, Social Security benefits, income tax deductions, etc.) is surety for that public debt and their children. Just the food given in Egypt on condition put Israel in collective bondage for 400 years.

The debt then was collective and it is now collective and has been for decades if not centuries.

Moses did not come and say file these papers one at a time and we can get out of here for free.

Jesus did not do the same. He did what Moses did.

He told the people to even be friends with the unrighteous Mammon and Moses told them to pay their tale of bricks but glean in the field for your straw and other benefits.

And of course then like now everyone would pay that debt with their labor just like they did in Egypt. Then and now we are in a Corvee system of Bondage.

They do not want you to actually "pay it off" but there is a way to do so but it is not for the Slothful.

One purse#Civic Flesh pots This city is the caldron, and we be the flesh

Babylon was a city of Nimrod. Babylon the Great is at least a civil pot in which everyone is brought into one caldron, One purse by the offer of benefits by Benefactors who exercise authority one over the other. In that civil caldron or city people are found Biting one another just like the spirits who dwell in hell.

To get out of that place you must repent of that thinking which takes Charitable Practices which is the antitheses of the Covetous Practices that have made you Merchandise and cursed the people and their children in a Bondage of debt.

It will still take a miracle. If people do Repent and become Doers of the Word and practice Pure Religion like the early Church God would do the rest. There would be some Christian conflict but that would merely test the soul.

That is where real faith comes in.

But some people do not have as much faith in facts and the hope of fruit by grace as they have in folly.

Now the system is failing.

And people want out.

Will God hear your cries?

Israel was in bondage in Egypt?

That bondage was the result of coveting government benefits offered to members and their children?

The Covetous Practices of the parents curses the children.

They could not just file papers and leave.

They could not just dissolve the bands which had connected them through violent means.

What they did historically was help each other and their neighbors during hard times.

They learned to live without the benefits of rulers and kings.
They learned to live by love.
They changed their thinking and their ways which was called repenting and seeking the righteousness of God.

Abraham built his living altars of "friends" and then left Ur with many souls. Moses taught the people how to get through the plagues and even help the Egyptians before they were ready to leave Egypt in one day.

John, Jesus and the Apostles taught the people to love one another. "Joanna the wife of Chuza Herod’s steward, and Susanna, and many others" provided for their ministry to the needy in pure religion with their "substance" long before the coming out at Pentecost.

What they did worked!

We all need some kingdom Perspective.

We need to return together to the ways of the kingdom of God and His righteousness.

If you need help:

Or want to help others:

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↑ Oath of Naturalization, or apply for benefits as a Federal Employee, or do any thing to make the State your Benefactor or Father.
↑ : Micah 3:2, 3 Who hate the good, and love the evil; who pluck off their skin from off them, and their flesh from off their bones; Who also eat the flesh of my people, and flay their skin from off them; and they break their bones, and chop them in pieces, as for the pot, and as flesh within the caldron.
Leviticus 17:12 Therefore I said unto the children of Israel, No soul of you shall eat blood, neither shall any stranger that sojourneth among you eat blood.

Ezekiel 11:3 Which say, It is not near; let us build houses: this city is the caldron, and we be the flesh. 4 Therefore prophesy against them, prophesy, O son of man. 5 And the Spirit of the LORD fell upon me, and said unto me, Speak; Thus saith the LORD; Thus have ye said, O house of Israel: for I know the things that come into your mind, every one of them. 6 Ye have multiplied your slain in this city, and ye have filled the streets thereof with the slain.

Ezekiel 11:7 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Your slain whom ye have laid in the midst of it, they are the flesh, and this city is the caldron: but I will bring you forth out of the midst of it. 8 Ye have feared the sword; and I will bring a sword upon you, saith the Lord GOD. 9 And I will bring you out of the midst thereof, and deliver you into the hands of strangers, and will execute judgments among you. 10 Ye shall fall by the sword; I will judge you in the border of Israel; and ye shall know that I am the LORD.

Ezekiel 11:11 This city shall not be your caldron, neither shall ye be the flesh in the midst thereof; but I will judge you in the border of Israel:

Matthew 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

Matthew 10:16 Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.

Galatians 5:15 But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

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[1] Oath of Naturalization, or apply for benefits as a Federal Employee, or do any thing to make the State your Benefactor or Father.

[2] : Micah 3:2, 3 Who hate the good, and love the evil; who pluck off their skin from off them, and their flesh from off their bones; Who also eat the flesh of my people, and flay their skin from off them; and they break their bones, and chop them in pieces, as for the pot, and as flesh within the caldron.
Leviticus 17:12 Therefore I said unto the children of Israel, No soul of you shall eat blood, neither shall any stranger that sojourneth among you eat blood.

Ezekiel 11:3 Which say, It is not near; let us build houses: this city is the caldron, and we be the flesh. 4 Therefore prophesy against them, prophesy, O son of man. 5 And the Spirit of the LORD fell upon me, and said unto me, Speak; Thus saith the LORD; Thus have ye said, O house of Israel: for I know the things that come into your mind, every one of them. 6 Ye have multiplied your slain in this city, and ye have filled the streets thereof with the slain.

Ezekiel 11:7 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Your slain whom ye have laid in the midst of it, they are the flesh, and this city is the caldron: but I will bring you forth out of the midst of it. 8 Ye have feared the sword; and I will bring a sword upon you, saith the Lord GOD. 9 And I will bring you out of the midst thereof, and deliver you into the hands of strangers, and will execute judgments among you. 10 Ye shall fall by the sword; I will judge you in the border of Israel; and ye shall know that I am the LORD.

Ezekiel 11:11 This city shall not be your caldron, neither shall ye be the flesh in the midst thereof; but I will judge you in the border of Israel:

Matthew 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

Matthew 10:16 Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.

Galatians 5:15 But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

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 A lot of people think they are exiting Babylon when they are really just getting lost in the wilderness. What is Babylon? Is it a place or is it a way?
-One individual suggested that Babylon is an ecclesiastical Babylon "church" that Jesus did not establish. Others state that "Babylon is a system that encompasses the realm of economics, religion, political and social structures." Some suggest that Babylon refers to the "[[World|world]]" as a system composed according to Satan or the anti Christ spirit.
+One individual suggested that Babylon is an ecclesiastical Babylon "church" that Jesus did not establish. Others state that "Babylon is a system that encompasses the realm of economics, religion, political and social structures." Some suggest that Babylon refers to the "[[World|world]]" or the ''New World Order'' as a system composed of evil rulers and depots who have a Satanic or the anti Christ spirit.
-[[Nimrod]] was a mighty provider who subjugated the people with offers of various benefits, appealing to the flesh. God provides for those who love their neighbor as themselves through [[Faith]], [[Hope]] and [[Charity]] according to the [[Perfect law of liberty]]. If we apply or pray for benefits from [[Benefactors]] who exercise authority, instead of the Lord God of Creation, we become [[Merchandise]]. It will entangle us in the [[Elements]] of the [[World]].
+[[Nimrod]] was a mighty provider who subjugated the people with offers of various benefits, appealing to the [[Slothful|slothful]] nature or fleshly [[Wantonness}} of the people. Nimrod or rulers of Babylon get people to elect them as their ruler by offering to take from their neighbor to provide social benefits or [[Welfare]].
+Because the people have to ''pledge their service''<Ref>[[Oath of Naturalization]], or apply for benefits as a [[Employ|Federal Employee]], or do any thing to make the State your [[Benefactors|Benefactor]] or [[Father]].</Ref> their rulers and law makers are able to borrow funds in their name which make them a [[Surety|surety]] for debt. Once the debt is established and you have become a [[Merchandise|Human Resource]] ''dissolving the bands which have connected you with another'' is not as easy as it might have been in 1776.
+[[File:cauldron.jpg|right|300px|thumb| This [[One purse#Civic Flesh pots|city is the caldron]], and we be the flesh.]]
+This binding people together in a civil caldron of [[Bondage]] is a common theme of the [[Bible]].<Ref>:    Micah 3:2, 3 Who hate the good, and love the evil; who pluck off their skin from off them, and their flesh from off their bones; Who also eat the flesh of my people, and flay their skin from off them; and they break their bones, and chop them in pieces, as for the pot, and as flesh within the caldron.
+:    Leviticus 17:12 Therefore I said unto the children of Israel, No soul of you shall eat blood, neither shall any stranger that sojourneth among you eat blood.
+:    Ezekiel 11:3  Which say, It is not near; let us build houses: this city is the caldron, and we be the flesh. 4  Therefore prophesy against them, prophesy, O son of man. 5  And the Spirit of the LORD fell upon me, and said unto me, Speak; Thus saith the LORD; Thus have ye said, O house of Israel: for I know the things that come into your mind, every one of them. 6  Ye have multiplied your slain in this city, and ye have filled the streets thereof with the slain.
+:    Ezekiel 11:7  Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Your slain whom ye have laid in the midst of it, they are the flesh, and this city is the caldron: but I will bring you forth out of the midst of it. 8  Ye have feared the sword; and I will bring a sword upon you, saith the Lord GOD. 9  And I will bring you out of the midst thereof, and deliver you into the hands of strangers, and will execute judgments among you. 10  Ye shall fall by the sword; I will judge you in the border of Israel; and ye shall know that I am the LORD.
+:    Ezekiel 11:11  This city shall not be your caldron, neither shall ye be the flesh in the midst thereof; but I will judge you in the border of Israel:
+:    Matthew 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
+:    Matthew 10:16 Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.
+:    Galatians 5:15 But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.
+</Ref>
+God provides for those who love their neighbor as themselves through [[Faith]], [[Hope]] and [[Charity]] according to the [[Perfect law of liberty]]. If we apply or pray for benefits from [[Benefactors]] who exercise authority, instead of the Lord God of Creation, we become [[Merchandise]]. It will entangle us in the [[Elements]] of the [[World]].
 So can we '''Exit Babylon''', and how does one do that?
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 : Did they depend on the State and the collective it rules over for their medical or any other care or benefit while the state was operating in the red [since at least 1933]?
-Anyone receiving government [[Welfare|welfare]] (which includes [[Public schools|public education]], Social Security benefits, income tax deductions, etc.) is [[Surety|surety]] for that public debt and their children. Just the food given in Egypt on condition put Israel in collective bondage for 400 years.
+Anyone receiving government [[Welfare|welfare]] (which includes [[Public schools|public education]], Social Security benefits, income tax deductions, etc.) is [[Surety|surety]] for that public debt and their children. Just the food given in Egypt on condition put Israel in collective [[Bondage|bondage]] for 400 years.
 The debt then was collective and it is now collective and has been for decades if not centuries.

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