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The first place we see the word "[[gentiles]]" in the bible is [[Genesis 10]]:5 where it appears twice.<Ref>[[Genesis 10]]:5 "By these were the isles of the [[Gentiles]] divided in their lands; every one after his tongue, after their families, in their [[Nation|nations]]."</Ref> The first pace it is said to mean "[[Gentiles]]" and the second place it is translated "[[Nation|nations]]." | The first place we see the word "[[gentiles]]" in the bible is [[Genesis 10]]:5 where it appears twice.<Ref>[[Genesis 10]]:5 "By these were the isles of the [[Gentiles]] divided in their lands; every one after his tongue, after their families, in their [[Nation|nations]]."</Ref> The first pace it is said to mean "[[Gentiles]]" and the second place it is translated "[[Nation|nations]]." | ||
It is from the [[Hebrew]] word "gowy" [GamelVavYod ] <Ref>{{01471}}</Ref> which is only translated "gentiles" 30 times but translated "nation" 374 times. | It is from the [[Hebrew]] word "gowy" [GamelVavYod ] <Ref>{{01471}}</Ref> which is only translated "[[gentiles]]" 30 times but translated "nation" 374 times. | ||
We see the same pattern of translating the same word different ways in the new Testament with the word <Ref>{{1484}} </Ref> translated [[Gentiles]] 93 times, but nation 64 times. | We see the same pattern of translating the same word different ways in the new Testament with the word <Ref>{{1484}} </Ref> translated [[Gentiles]] 93 times, but nation 64 times. | ||
We also see the Greek word "Hellen" translated "Greek" 20 times, and translated "gentile" 7 times.<Ref>{{1672}} </Ref> | We also see the Greek word "Hellen" translated "Greek" 20 times, and translated "gentile" 7 times.<Ref>{{1672}} </Ref> | ||
== Jew, Gentile, Christian == | |||
In [[Acts 10]]:45 we see ''ethnos'' is used in a debate about the [[baptism]] of [[gentiles]] who are not [[circumcise|circumcised]] Jews. What Baptism did they need and why? | |||
Of course water [[baptism]] by [[John the Baptist]] or the disciples of Jesus was just an outward sign or ritual stating publicly that you were [[repent]]ing <Ref name="baptizewtr">{{baptizewtr}}</Ref> of the [[baptism]] of the [[Pharisees]] into their system of [[Corban]] which was making the word of God to none effect. | |||
Why did it make the word of God to none effect? | |||
This was because it was a [[snare]]<Ref name="snaretrap">{{snaretrap}}</Ref> which brought [[masses|people]]<Ref name="massesnf">{{massesnf}}</Ref> back into a [[yoke of bondage]] where [[Herod]] could use his [[exercise authority|exercising authority]]<Ref name="exauth">{{exauth}}</Ref> of the civil the government to [[force]] the contributions of his [[citizen|citizens]] who were [[Employ|registered]] members. | |||
Did [[Gentiles]] need to be baptized with water if they already had the baptism of the [[Holy Spirit]]? | |||
John said Jesus did not need [[baptism]]. Jesus did not need to be [[saved]]. | |||
: [[Matthew 3]]:14 "But John forbad him, saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me?" | |||
First we need to understand what [[Baptism]] meant at that time. | |||
The Church, consisted of the [[called out]] disciples who were [[appoint|appointed]] a [[Kingdom of God|kingdom]] by [[Christ]]<Ref name="Appointk">{{Appointk}}</Ref> | |||
They were given instructions to [[Feeding the Sheep|feed]] the [[Christians check list|sheep]] who heard the voice of Christ as their shepherd and followed the [[doctrine of Jesus]]. | |||
That Church replaced the [[Corban]] of the [[Pharisees]] offered through the stone temple and government institutions that were ''making the word of God to none effect''. That system of [[corban]] was [[degenerate|degenerating]] the people because the [[legal charity]] offered at those [[tables]], and the [[free bread]] offered by [[Rome]], were fueled or funded by [[covetous practices]] the depended upon governments that ''[[exercise authority]] one over the other''<Ref name="exauth">{{exauth}}</Ref>. | |||
The ministers appointed by Christ and chosen by the people according to the [[perfect law of liberty]] were replacing that idolatress<Ref name="Isidolatry">{{Isidolatry}}</Ref> system of the [[pharisees]], many of the [[Cities of blood|city states]], and [[Rome]] with a [[daily ministration]] of [[Pure Religion]] which could be labeled the [[Corban of Christ]]. | |||
That system of [[social welfare]] set the [[captive]] free because it was based on the [[righteousness]] of God and was providing a [[daily bread]] and [[social welfare]] through [[charity]] and [[love]] rather than the [[welfare]] of the [[world]] that was and is reliant upon [[force]] and [[violence]]. | |||
Like Paul, David, and all the [[prophets]] have said the [[tables]] that should have been for your [[welfare]] was a [[snare]]<Ref name="snaretrap">{{snaretrap}}</Ref> of [[Entangled|entanglement]]. | |||
Water baptism was only to bear witness but it could be a false witness. The baptism of Jesus was through the [[Holy Spirit]] by [[fire]]. | |||
[[Jesus and socialism|Jesus]] opposed that [[Covetous practices|covetous practice]] and the use of [[force]] because it did not bear [[fruit]], Peter opposed it because as a [[snare]]<Ref name="snaretrap">{{snaretrap}}</Ref> it made the people ''[[merchandise|human resources]]''. Paul says that we should not eat of their [[tables]] and to do so is a form of [[idolatry]].<Ref name="Isidolatry">{{Isidolatry}}</Ref> | |||
Latest revision as of 21:31, 25 August 2024
Gentiles
The first place we see the word "gentiles" in the bible is Genesis 10:5 where it appears twice.[1] The first pace it is said to mean "Gentiles" and the second place it is translated "nations."
It is from the Hebrew word "gowy" [GamelVavYod ] [2] which is only translated "gentiles" 30 times but translated "nation" 374 times.
We see the same pattern of translating the same word different ways in the new Testament with the word [3] translated Gentiles 93 times, but nation 64 times.
We also see the Greek word "Hellen" translated "Greek" 20 times, and translated "gentile" 7 times.[4]
Jew, Gentile, Christian
In Acts 10:45 we see ethnos is used in a debate about the baptism of gentiles who are not circumcised Jews. What Baptism did they need and why?
Of course water baptism by John the Baptist or the disciples of Jesus was just an outward sign or ritual stating publicly that you were repenting [5] of the baptism of the Pharisees into their system of Corban which was making the word of God to none effect.
Why did it make the word of God to none effect?
This was because it was a snare[6] which brought people[7] back into a yoke of bondage where Herod could use his exercising authority[8] of the civil the government to force the contributions of his citizens who were registered members.
Did Gentiles need to be baptized with water if they already had the baptism of the Holy Spirit?
John said Jesus did not need baptism. Jesus did not need to be saved.
- Matthew 3:14 "But John forbad him, saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me?"
First we need to understand what Baptism meant at that time.
The Church, consisted of the called out disciples who were appointed a kingdom by Christ[9]
They were given instructions to feed the sheep who heard the voice of Christ as their shepherd and followed the doctrine of Jesus.
That Church replaced the Corban of the Pharisees offered through the stone temple and government institutions that were making the word of God to none effect. That system of corban was degenerating the people because the legal charity offered at those tables, and the free bread offered by Rome, were fueled or funded by covetous practices the depended upon governments that exercise authority one over the other[8].
The ministers appointed by Christ and chosen by the people according to the perfect law of liberty were replacing that idolatress[10] system of the pharisees, many of the city states, and Rome with a daily ministration of Pure Religion which could be labeled the Corban of Christ.
That system of social welfare set the captive free because it was based on the righteousness of God and was providing a daily bread and social welfare through charity and love rather than the welfare of the world that was and is reliant upon force and violence.
Like Paul, David, and all the prophets have said the tables that should have been for your welfare was a snare[6] of entanglement.
Water baptism was only to bear witness but it could be a false witness. The baptism of Jesus was through the Holy Spirit by fire.
Jesus opposed that covetous practice and the use of force because it did not bear fruit, Peter opposed it because as a snare[6] it made the people human resources. Paul says that we should not eat of their tables and to do so is a form of idolatry.[10]
- ↑ Genesis 10:5 "By these were the isles of the Gentiles divided in their lands; every one after his tongue, after their families, in their nations."
- ↑ 01471 גּוֹי gowy [go’-ee] rarely (shortened)
גי goy [go’-ee] apparently from the same root as 01465 gevah the behind; n m/n pr m p loc; [BDB-156b, BDB-157a] [{See TWOT on 326 @@ "326e" }] AV-nation 374, heathen 143, Gentiles 30, people 11; 558
- n m
- 1) nation, people
- 1a) nation, people
- 1a1) usually of non-Hebrew people
- 1a2) of descendants of Abraham
- 1a3) of Israel
- 1b) of swarm of locusts, other animals (fig.)
- 1a) nation, people
- n pr m p loc
- 1c) Goyim? = "nations"
- ↑ 1484 ~ἔθνος~ ethnos \@eth’-nos\@ probably from 1486; n n AV-Gentiles 93, nation 64, heathen 5, people 2; 164
- 1) a multitude (whether of men or of beasts) associated or living together
- 1a) a company, troop, swarm
- 2) a multitude of individuals of the same nature or genus
- 2a) the human family
- 3) a tribe, nation, people group
- 4) in the OT, foreign nations not worshipping the true God, pagans, Gentiles
- 1) a multitude (whether of men or of beasts) associated or living together
- ↑ 1672 ~ʽ´Ελλην~ Hellen \@hel’-lane\@ from 1671; n m AV-Greek 20, Gentile 7; 27
- 1) a Greek either by nationality, whether a native of the main land or of the Greek islands or colonies
- 2) in a wider sense the name embraces all nations not Jews that made the language, customs, and learning of the Greeks their own; the primary reference is to a difference of religion and worship
- ↑ Water ritual of John vs Spirit and fire of Jesus
- John 1:26 "John answered them, saying, I baptize with water: but there standeth one among you, whom ye know not; 27 He it is, who coming after me is preferred before me, whose shoe’s latchet I am not worthy to unloose... 33 And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost."
- Matthew 3:11 "I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:"
- Mark 1:7-8 "And preached, saying, There cometh one mightier than I after me, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to stoop down and unloose. 8 I indeed have baptized you with water: but he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost."
- Luke 3:16 "John answered, saying unto them all, I indeed baptize you with water; but one mightier than I cometh, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to unloose: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost and with fire:"
- John 3: "5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water (mother’s womb) and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God."
- See also Baptism, Acts 10, Born again, Gentiles.
- ↑ 6.0 6.1 6.2 Table as a snare
- Psalms 69:22-23 “Let their table become a snare before them: and that which should have been for their welfare, let it become a trap. 23 Let their eyes be darkened, that they see not; and make their loins continually to shake."”
- Romans 11:9 “And David saith, Let their table be made a snare, and a trap, and a stumblingblock, and a recompence unto them:”
- Proverbs 23:1 "When thou sittest to eat with a ruler, consider diligently what [is] before thee: 2 And put a knife to thy throat, if thou be a man given to appetite. 3 Be not desirous of his dainties: for they are deceitful meat."
- Exodus 23:32 "Thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor with their gods. 33 They shall not dwell in thy land, lest they make thee sin against me: for if thou serve their gods, it will surely be a snare unto thee."
- Exodus 34:12 "Take heed to thyself, lest thou make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land whither thou goest, lest it be for a snare in the midst of thee:"
- Deuteronomy 7:16 "And thou shalt consume all the people which the LORD thy God shall deliver thee; thine eye shall have no pity upon them: neither shalt thou serve their gods; for that [will be] a snare unto thee."
- Judges 2:2 "And ye shall make no league [covenant] with the inhabitants of this land; ye shall throw down their altars: but ye have not obeyed my voice: why have ye done this?"
- Proverbs 1:10 "My son, if sinners entice thee, consent thou not."
- Proverbs 6:2 “Thou art snared with the words of thy mouth, thou art taken with the words of thy mouth.” Swear not
- Luke 21:34 "And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and [so] that day come upon you unawares. 35 For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth."
- 1 Timothy 6:9 "But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and [into] many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition. 10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows."
- "Have ye not known? have ye not heard? hath it not been told you from the beginning? have ye not understood from the foundations of the earth?" Isaiah 40:21 is about the message of John the Baptist who was "The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the LORD, make straight in the desert a highway for our God" Isaiah 40:3 to avoid the "snare" of the legal charity of the welfare state which which makes the word of God to none effect bringing man back into captivity as human resources.
- ↑ "The masses continue with an appetite for benefits and the habit of receiving them by way of a rule of force and violence. The people, having grown accustomed to feed at the expense of others and to depend for their livelihood on the property of others... institute the rule of violence; and now uniting their forces massacre, banish, and plunder, until they degenerate again into perfect savages and find once more a master and monarch." Polybius 150 years before Christ.
- ↑ 8.0 8.1 Not exercise authority
- Matthew 20:25 "But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Ye know that the princes of the Gentiles exercise dominion over them, and they that are great exercise authority upon them. But it shall not be so among you:..."
- Mark 10:42 "But Jesus called them to him, and saith unto them, Ye know that they which are accounted to rule over the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and their great ones exercise authority upon them. But so shall it not be among you:..."
- Luke 22:25 "And he said unto them, The kings of the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and they that exercise authority upon them are called benefactors. But ye [shall] not [be] so:..."
- ↑ Appoint a kingdom
- Matthew 21:43 "Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof."
- Luke 12:32 "Fear not, little flock; for it is your Father’s good pleasure to give you the kingdom."
- Luke 22:29 "And I appoint unto you a kingdom, as my Father hath appointed unto me;"
- John 19:15 But they cried out, Away with [him], away with [him], crucify him. Pilate saith unto them, Shall I crucify your King? The chief priests answered, We have no king but Caesar.
- ↑ 10.0 10.1 Covetousness is idolatry
- Colossians 3:5 "Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry: 6 For which things’ sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience:"
- Ephesians 5:5 "For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God."
- 1 Corinthians 5:10 "Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world. 11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat."
- For it is written that the tables of dainties provided by rulers of the world are a snare because they cause the masses to bite one another through government systems of legal charity which are covetous practices which are a form of fornication or adultery where the people are devoured as merchandise, curse children and are "entangled again in the yoke of bondage" with the aid of the false religion of the whore who rides the beast.