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== Are we helping ==
People often need help.
People often need help.


Food Stamps can help people in alleviate real need and hunger but is it the way a society out to be helping people?
Food Stamps can help people in alleviating real need and hunger but is it the way a society ought to be helping people?  
 
Food Stamps can be harmful too.
* It can enable sloth weakening members of society.
* And it is not really a form of charity that brings society together.
 
 
This first video is just a small example of possible abuse and is not a suggestion that there are not real people in real need who are really assisted by programs like SNAP. But we must also see that [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supplemental_Nutrition_Assistance_Program SNAP] is not charity but is just redistribution of wealth by men who like to call themselves charitable [[Benefactors]] but are just [[Exercises authority| exercising authority]] within a [[Welfare types |certain type]] of society that may be weakening society.


{{#ev:youtube|bP_izYhdehY|300|right|Weakening of Welfare  ~5:57 min}}
== Undermining Society ==
This first video is just a small example of possible abuse and is not a suggestion that there are real people in real need who are really assisted by programs like SNAP. But we must also see that SNAP is not charity but  is just redistribution of wealth by men who like to call themselves charitable [[Benefactors]] but are just [[Exercises authority| exercising authority]] within a [[Welfare types |type]] of society.


{{#ev:youtube|bILldpGbVf0|300|right|Milton Friedman and Thomas Sowell - Roots Of The Welfare State  ~15:27 min}}
{{#ev:youtube|bILldpGbVf0|300|right|Milton Friedman and Thomas Sowell - [[Roots of the Welfare State]]. [[Capitalism]] did not fail. The introduction of the Federal Reserve was a departure from Capitalism and the introduction of Socialist money system.   ~15:27 min}}
The second short video offers another view of welfare and assistance. Published on Nov 4, 2013. '''Milton Friedman explains where the expectation of cradle to grave security came from. James R Dumpson, Thomas Sowell, Helen Bohen O'Bannon.''' http://www.LibertyPen.com
The second short video offers another view of welfare and assistance. Published on Nov 4, 2013. '''Milton Friedman explains where the expectation of cradle to grave security came from. James R Dumpson, Thomas Sowell, Helen Bohen O'Bannon.''' http://www.LibertyPen.com


Are these modern systems of welfare undermining the nature of society like the free [[Bread and circuses]]. Why did [[Jesus]] who was [[Was Jesus a socialist|not a socialist]] say the [[Corban]] of [[Pharisees]] make the word of God to none effect? Welfare or loving your neighbor and helping the poor has been a major topic of society and therefore both Old and New Testament. The [[Christian conflict|conflict]] between the [[Welfare_types|two types]] of [[Welfare]] has been a major source of dispute within societies for centuries.
Are these modern systems of welfare undermining the nature of society like the free [[Bread and circuses]]. Why did [[Jesus]] who was [[Was Jesus a socialist|not a socialist]] say the [[Corban]] of [[Pharisees]] make the word of God to none effect? Welfare or loving your neighbor and helping the poor has been a major topic of society and therefore both Old and New Testament. The [[Christian conflict|conflict]] between the [[Welfare_types|two types]] of [[Welfare]] has been a major source of dispute within societies for centuries.


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[[Socialism]] | [[Polybius]] | [[Plutarch]] | [[Lady Godiva]] |


{{#ev:youtube|_4kmRUq8x6g|300|right|Does the Welfare State Reduce Poverty and Inequality or Encourage Dependency? (1995)  ~56:50 min}}
[[Perfect law of liberty]] | [[Not so Secure Socialism]] | [[Nicolaitan]]


A thoughtful look at [[Welfare types]] and why the manner of the type and manner of aid matters. Published on Dec 24, 2014
[[Nimrod]] | [[Corvee]] | [[Benefactors]] | [[Fathers]] |


: "A welfare state is a concept of government in which the state plays a key role in the protection and promotion of the economic and social well-being of its citizens. It is based on the principles of equality of opportunity, equitable distribution of wealth, and public responsibility for those unable to avail themselves of the minimal provisions for a good life. The general term may cover a variety of forms of economic and social organization. The sociologist T.H. Marshall identified the welfare state as a distinctive combination of democracy, welfare, and capitalism."


: "Modern welfare states include the Nordic countries, such as Iceland, Sweden, Norway, Denmark, and Finland which employ a system known as the Nordic model. Esping-Andersen classified the most developed welfare state systems into three categories; Social Democratic, Conservative, and Liberal."


: "The welfare state involves a transfer of funds from the state, to the services provided (e.g. healthcare, education) as well as directly to individuals ("benefits"). It is funded through redistributionist taxation and is often referred to as a type of "mixed economy." Such taxation usually includes a larger income tax for people with higher incomes, called a progressive tax. This helps to reduce the income gap between the rich and poor."
== Madness in their Method ==


: "Early conservatives, under the influence of Malthus, opposed every form of social insurance "root and branch", arguing, as economist Brad DeLong put it: "make the poor richer, and they would become more fertile. As a result, farm sizes would drop (as land was divided among ever more children), labor productivity would fall, and the poor would become even poorer. Social insurance was not just pointless; it was counter productive."[63] Malthus, a clergyman, for whom birth control was anathema, believed that the poor needed to learn the hard way to practice frugality, self-control, and chastity. Traditional conservatives also protested that the effect of social insurance would be to weaken private charity and loosen traditional social bonds of family, friends, religious, and non-governmental welfare organisations."
{{#ev:youtube|_4kmRUq8x6g|300|right|Does the [[Roots_of_the_Welfare_State|Welfare State]] Reduce Poverty and Inequality or Encourage Dependency? (1995). Marvin Olasky interview about his book "''The Tragedy of American Compassion''" and his research into the history of charity and welfare. Olasky points out throughout the book that in 1752, Charles Chauncey exhorted Society that the Poor should only go to those who could not help themselves, not to the those able but unwilling to work. Paul stated in [[2 Thessalonians]] 3:10 that those who will not work shall not eat. This is Chauncey's basis for his position: "...And, so far as appears to me, it would be an evident Breach of the Law of the Gospel, as well as of Nature, to bestow upon those the Bread of Charity, who might earn and eat their own Bread, if they did not shamefully idle away their time."  ~56:50 min}}
 
A thoughtful look at [[Welfare types]] and why the type, manner and method of aid matters. There is madness in their method.
 
: "Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy." [[Ezekiel 16]]:49
 
* "Beyond this, the programs have an insidious effect on the moral fiber of both the people who administer the programs and the people who are supposedly benefiting from it. For the people who administer it, it instills in them a feeling of almost Godlike power. For the people who are supposedly benefiting it instills a feeling of childlike dependence. Their capacity for personal decision-making atrophies. The result is that the programs involved are misuse of money, they do not achieve the objectives which it was their intention to achieve. But far more important than this, they tend to rot away the very fabric that holds a decent society together." [http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1669367/posts FREE TO CHOOSE 4]: "From Cradle to Grave" (Milton Friedman)
 
Published on Dec 24, 2014
 
: "[[Roots_of_the_Welfare_State|A welfare state]] is a concept of government in which the state plays a key role in the protection and promotion of the economic and social well-being of its citizens. It is based on the principles of equality of opportunity, equitable distribution of wealth, and public responsibility for those unable to avail themselves of the minimal provisions for a good life. The general term may cover a variety of forms of economic and social organization. The sociologist T.H. Marshall identified the [[Roots_of_the_Welfare_State|welfare state]] as a distinctive combination of [[democracy]], welfare, and [[capitalism]]."
{{#ev:youtube|TBDSdT2YQWo|300|right| Published on Oct 10, 2013
Marvin Olasky, editor of World Magazine, delivers a speech for the Ashbrook Center's Major Issues Lecture Series on April 30, 1996. His book "''The Tragedy of American Compassion''"  ~51:03 min}}
: "Modern [[Roots_of_the_Welfare_State|welfare states]] include the Nordic countries, such as Iceland, [[Sweden]], [[Norway]], [[Denmark]], and [[Finland]] which [[employ]] a system known as the [[Nordic model]]. Esping-Andersen classified the most developed [[welfare]] state systems into three categories; Social Democratic, Conservative, and Liberal."
 
: "The [[welfare]] state involves a transfer of funds from the state, to the services provided (e.g. [[healthcare]], [[education]]) as well as directly to individuals ("[[benefits]]"). It is funded through redistributionist [[taxation]] and is often referred to as a type of "mixed economy." Such [[taxation]] usually includes a larger income tax for people with higher incomes, called a progressive tax. This helps to reduce the income gap between the rich and poor."
 
: "Early conservatives, under the influence of Malthus, opposed every form of social insurance "root and branch", arguing, as economist Brad DeLong put it: "make the poor richer, and they would become more fertile. As a result, farm sizes would drop (as land was divided among ever more children), labor productivity would fall, and the poor would become even poorer. Social insurance was not just pointless; it was counter-productive."[63] Malthus, a clergyman, for whom birth control was anathema, believed that the poor needed to learn the hard way to practice frugality, self-control, and chastity. Traditional conservatives also protested that the effect of social insurance would be to weaken private charity and loosen traditional social bonds of family, friends, religious, and non-governmental welfare organizations."


: "Karl Marx, on the other hand, opposed piecemeal reforms advanced by middle class reformers out of a sense of duty. In his Address of the Central Committee to the Communist League, written after the failed revolution of 1848, he warned that measures designed to increase wages, improve working conditions, and provide social insurance were merely bribes that would only temporarily make the situation of working classes tolerable and in the long run would weaken the revolutionary consciousness needed to achieve a socialist economy.[65] Nevertheless, Marx also proclaimed that the Communists had to support the bourgeoisie wherever it acted as a revolutionary progressive class because "bourgeois liberties had first to be conquered and then criticised.""
: "Karl Marx, on the other hand, opposed piecemeal reforms advanced by middle class reformers out of a sense of duty. In his Address of the Central Committee to the Communist League, written after the failed revolution of 1848, he warned that measures designed to increase wages, improve working conditions, and provide social insurance were merely bribes that would only temporarily make the situation of working classes tolerable and in the long run would weaken the revolutionary consciousness needed to achieve a socialist economy.[65] Nevertheless, Marx also proclaimed that the Communists had to support the bourgeoisie wherever it acted as a revolutionary progressive class because "bourgeois liberties had first to be conquered and then criticised.""


: "In the twentieth century, opponents of the welfare state have expressed apprehension about the creation of a large, possibly self-interested bureaucracy required to administer it and the tax burden on the wealthier citizens that this entailed."
: "In the twentieth century, opponents of the [[Roots_of_the_Welfare_State|welfare state]] have expressed apprehension about the creation of a large, possibly self-interested bureaucracy required to administer it and the tax burden on the wealthier citizens that this entailed."
 
: "Political historian Alan Ryan points out that the [[Roots_of_the_Welfare_State|modern welfare state]] stops short of being an "advance in the direction of socialism," noting in particular that: "its egalitarian elements are more minimal than either its defenders or its critics think", and because it does not entail advocacy for social ownership of industry. The [[Roots_of_the_Welfare_State|modern welfare state]], Ryan writes, does not set out: to make the poor richer and the rich poorer, which is a central element in socialism, but to help people to provide for themselves in sickness while they enjoy good health, to put money aside to cover unemployment while they are in work, and to have adults provide for the education of their own and other people’s children, expecting those children’s future taxes to pay in due course for the pensions of their parents’ generation. These are devices for shifting income across different stages in life, not for shifting income across classes. Another distinct difference is that social insurance does not aim to transform work and working relations; employers and employees pay taxes at a level they would not have done in the nineteenth century, but owners are not expropriated, profits are not illegitimate, cooperativism does not replace hierarchical management. Does the [[Welfare]] State Reduce Poverty and Inequality or Encourage Dependency? (1995)" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welfare_state
 
== Entitlement without moral criteria ==
 
There has been a suggestion that it [http://aattp.org/attention-republicans-data-from-2013-shows-that-most-food-stamp-recipients-are-white/ is a lie that] Black Americans are the predominant recipients of welfare like SNAPS by pointing out that most people on the program are White at about 40% and only 25% are Black. But is this also a deception and what insight may we learn if we step back and examine the big picture which is bringing a [[divide]].
 
White Americans are the racial majority in America, with a 77.7% share of the U.S. population yet they only get 40% of these benefits. African Americans are the largest racial minority, amounting to only 13.2% of the population. Yet they get 25% of these benefits?? So statistically they are more likely to be taking benefits. But why is that?
 
"More than 72 percent of children in the African-American community are born out of wedlock." It used to be less than 5 percent. What is changing this in the black community? This has been caused by numerous factors but a main cause is welfare managed as an entitlement without moral criteria.


: "Political historian Alan Ryan points out that the modern welfare state stops short of being an "advance in the direction of socialism," noting in particular that: "its egalitarian elements are more minimal than either its defenders or its critics think", and because it does not entail advocacy for social ownership of industry. The modern welfare state, Ryan writes, does not set out: to make the poor richer and the rich poorer, which is a central element in socialism, but to help people to provide for themselves in sickness while they enjoy good health, to put money aside to cover unemployment while they are in work, and to have adults provide for the education of their own and other people’s children, expecting those children’s future taxes to pay in due course for the pensions of their parents’ generation. These are devices for shifting income across different stages in life, not for shifting income across classes. Another distinct difference is that social insurance does not aim to transform work and working relations; employers and employees pay taxes at a level they would not have done in the nineteenth century, but owners are not expropriated, profits are not illegitimate, cooperativism does not replace hierarchical management. Does the [[Welfare]] State Reduce Poverty and Inequality or Encourage Dependency? (1995)" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welfare_state
People need to repent and seek the [[Kingdom of God]] and His righteousness and start tending to the {{Template:Weightier matters}}.


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Weakening of Welfare ~5:57 min

Are we helping

People often need help.

Food Stamps can help people in alleviating real need and hunger but is it the way a society ought to be helping people?

Food Stamps can be harmful too.

  • It can enable sloth weakening members of society.
  • And it is not really a form of charity that brings society together.


This first video is just a small example of possible abuse and is not a suggestion that there are not real people in real need who are really assisted by programs like SNAP. But we must also see that SNAP is not charity but is just redistribution of wealth by men who like to call themselves charitable Benefactors but are just exercising authority within a certain type of society that may be weakening society.

Undermining Society

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Milton Friedman and Thomas Sowell - Roots of the Welfare State. Capitalism did not fail. The introduction of the Federal Reserve was a departure from Capitalism and the introduction of Socialist money system. ~15:27 min

The second short video offers another view of welfare and assistance. Published on Nov 4, 2013. Milton Friedman explains where the expectation of cradle to grave security came from. James R Dumpson, Thomas Sowell, Helen Bohen O'Bannon. http://www.LibertyPen.com

Are these modern systems of welfare undermining the nature of society like the free Bread and circuses. Why did Jesus who was not a socialist say the Corban of Pharisees make the word of God to none effect? Welfare or loving your neighbor and helping the poor has been a major topic of society and therefore both Old and New Testament. The conflict between the two types of Welfare has been a major source of dispute within societies for centuries.

Socialism | Polybius | Plutarch | Lady Godiva |

Perfect law of liberty | Not so Secure Socialism | Nicolaitan

Nimrod | Corvee | Benefactors | Fathers |


Madness in their Method

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Does the Welfare State Reduce Poverty and Inequality or Encourage Dependency? (1995). Marvin Olasky interview about his book "The Tragedy of American Compassion" and his research into the history of charity and welfare. Olasky points out throughout the book that in 1752, Charles Chauncey exhorted Society that the Poor should only go to those who could not help themselves, not to the those able but unwilling to work. Paul stated in 2 Thessalonians 3:10 that those who will not work shall not eat. This is Chauncey's basis for his position: "...And, so far as appears to me, it would be an evident Breach of the Law of the Gospel, as well as of Nature, to bestow upon those the Bread of Charity, who might earn and eat their own Bread, if they did not shamefully idle away their time." ~56:50 min

A thoughtful look at Welfare types and why the type, manner and method of aid matters. There is madness in their method.

"Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy." Ezekiel 16:49
  • "Beyond this, the programs have an insidious effect on the moral fiber of both the people who administer the programs and the people who are supposedly benefiting from it. For the people who administer it, it instills in them a feeling of almost Godlike power. For the people who are supposedly benefiting it instills a feeling of childlike dependence. Their capacity for personal decision-making atrophies. The result is that the programs involved are misuse of money, they do not achieve the objectives which it was their intention to achieve. But far more important than this, they tend to rot away the very fabric that holds a decent society together." FREE TO CHOOSE 4: "From Cradle to Grave" (Milton Friedman)

Published on Dec 24, 2014

"A welfare state is a concept of government in which the state plays a key role in the protection and promotion of the economic and social well-being of its citizens. It is based on the principles of equality of opportunity, equitable distribution of wealth, and public responsibility for those unable to avail themselves of the minimal provisions for a good life. The general term may cover a variety of forms of economic and social organization. The sociologist T.H. Marshall identified the welfare state as a distinctive combination of democracy, welfare, and capitalism."
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Published on Oct 10, 2013

Marvin Olasky, editor of World Magazine, delivers a speech for the Ashbrook Center's Major Issues Lecture Series on April 30, 1996. His book "The Tragedy of American Compassion" ~51:03 min

"Modern welfare states include the Nordic countries, such as Iceland, Sweden, Norway, Denmark, and Finland which employ a system known as the Nordic model. Esping-Andersen classified the most developed welfare state systems into three categories; Social Democratic, Conservative, and Liberal."
"The welfare state involves a transfer of funds from the state, to the services provided (e.g. healthcare, education) as well as directly to individuals ("benefits"). It is funded through redistributionist taxation and is often referred to as a type of "mixed economy." Such taxation usually includes a larger income tax for people with higher incomes, called a progressive tax. This helps to reduce the income gap between the rich and poor."
"Early conservatives, under the influence of Malthus, opposed every form of social insurance "root and branch", arguing, as economist Brad DeLong put it: "make the poor richer, and they would become more fertile. As a result, farm sizes would drop (as land was divided among ever more children), labor productivity would fall, and the poor would become even poorer. Social insurance was not just pointless; it was counter-productive."[63] Malthus, a clergyman, for whom birth control was anathema, believed that the poor needed to learn the hard way to practice frugality, self-control, and chastity. Traditional conservatives also protested that the effect of social insurance would be to weaken private charity and loosen traditional social bonds of family, friends, religious, and non-governmental welfare organizations."
"Karl Marx, on the other hand, opposed piecemeal reforms advanced by middle class reformers out of a sense of duty. In his Address of the Central Committee to the Communist League, written after the failed revolution of 1848, he warned that measures designed to increase wages, improve working conditions, and provide social insurance were merely bribes that would only temporarily make the situation of working classes tolerable and in the long run would weaken the revolutionary consciousness needed to achieve a socialist economy.[65] Nevertheless, Marx also proclaimed that the Communists had to support the bourgeoisie wherever it acted as a revolutionary progressive class because "bourgeois liberties had first to be conquered and then criticised.""
"In the twentieth century, opponents of the welfare state have expressed apprehension about the creation of a large, possibly self-interested bureaucracy required to administer it and the tax burden on the wealthier citizens that this entailed."
"Political historian Alan Ryan points out that the modern welfare state stops short of being an "advance in the direction of socialism," noting in particular that: "its egalitarian elements are more minimal than either its defenders or its critics think", and because it does not entail advocacy for social ownership of industry. The modern welfare state, Ryan writes, does not set out: to make the poor richer and the rich poorer, which is a central element in socialism, but to help people to provide for themselves in sickness while they enjoy good health, to put money aside to cover unemployment while they are in work, and to have adults provide for the education of their own and other people’s children, expecting those children’s future taxes to pay in due course for the pensions of their parents’ generation. These are devices for shifting income across different stages in life, not for shifting income across classes. Another distinct difference is that social insurance does not aim to transform work and working relations; employers and employees pay taxes at a level they would not have done in the nineteenth century, but owners are not expropriated, profits are not illegitimate, cooperativism does not replace hierarchical management. Does the Welfare State Reduce Poverty and Inequality or Encourage Dependency? (1995)" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welfare_state

Entitlement without moral criteria

There has been a suggestion that it is a lie that Black Americans are the predominant recipients of welfare like SNAPS by pointing out that most people on the program are White at about 40% and only 25% are Black. But is this also a deception and what insight may we learn if we step back and examine the big picture which is bringing a divide.

White Americans are the racial majority in America, with a 77.7% share of the U.S. population yet they only get 40% of these benefits. African Americans are the largest racial minority, amounting to only 13.2% of the population. Yet they get 25% of these benefits?? So statistically they are more likely to be taking benefits. But why is that?

"More than 72 percent of children in the African-American community are born out of wedlock." It used to be less than 5 percent. What is changing this in the black community? This has been caused by numerous factors but a main cause is welfare managed as an entitlement without moral criteria.

People need to repent and seek the Kingdom of God and His righteousness and start tending to the Weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith which include caring for the needs of our neighbors and the widows and orphans of our society through Pure Religion in matters of health, education, and welfare. We are NOT to provide for the needy of society through the Covetous Practices and the men who call themselves benefactors but who exercise authority one over the other like the socialists do.

The Way of Christ was like neither the way of the world of Rome nor the governments of the gentiles who depend on those fathers of the earth through force, fear and fealty who deliver the people back in bondage again like they were in Egypt. Christ's ministers and true Christians do not depend upon systems of social welfare that force the contributions of the people like the corban of the Pharisees which made the word of God to none effect. Many people have been deceived to go the way of Balaam and the Nicolaitan and out of The Way of Christ and have become workers of iniquity.

The Christian conflict with Rome in the first century Church appointed by Christ was because they would not apply to the fathers of the earth for their free bread but instead relied upon a voluntary network providing a daily ministration to the needy of society through Faith, Hope, and Charity by way of freewill offerings of the people, for the people, and by the people through the perfect law of liberty in Free Assemblies according to the ancient pattern of Tuns or Tens as He commanded.

The modern Christians are in need of repentance.

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  1. ↑ Matthew 20:25-26 But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Ye know that the princes of the Gentiles exercise dominion over them, and they that are great exercise authority upon them. But it shall not be so among you: but whosoever will be great among you, let him be your minister;
    Mark 10:42-43 But Jesus called them to him, and saith unto them, Ye know that they which are accounted to rule over the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and their great ones exercise authority upon them. But so shall it not be among you: but whosoever will be great among you, shall be your minister:
    Luke 22:25-26 And he said unto them, The kings of the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and they that exercise authority upon them are called benefactors. But ye shall not be so: but he that is greatest among you, let him be as the younger; and he that is chief, as he that doth serve.


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