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Civic Flesh pots
Flesh pots and caldrons[3]are equated with the cities established by iniquity and run to shed blood[4] through social compacts or civil systems of government which are greedy for gain willing to have One purse despite the warnings in the Bible.
They are the cities of blood spoken of by Jeremiah[5], Ezekiel[6], Hosea[7], Nahum[8], Habakkuk[9], and even Revelation.[10]
If you are taking a bite out of the flesh of your neighbor or treading[11] on your neighbor through men who exercise authority your house is full of leaven and you have returned to the flesh pots when you were in the Bondage of Egypt and have been building the cities of blood for generations.
This metaphor of flesh[12] pots[13] is first seen in Exodus 16:3 where the people had been snared[14] by the welfare of Egypt into a system of Corvee or bondage but were able to sit and fill themselves. Once free in the wilderness life was not so certain.
But a voluntary system of welfare where you have no guarantee of benefits or dainties forced by rulers for the redistribution of wealth by men who call themselves Benefactors but exercise authority produces a different result. By its nature a system of Free Assemblies seems to strengthen the poor.[15]
In Micah 3:3 the Bible talks about those, who also eat the flesh of my people, and flay their skin from off them; and they break their bones, and chop them in pieces, as for the pot, and as flesh within the caldron.[16] because the people "Who hate the good, and love the evil". This is again a metaphor of the civil system which allows the people to take a bite out of one another through the exercising authority of a system that takes by force from one class of citizen to feed another.
This is nothing but the conflict between Charitable Practices and Pure Religion verses Covetous Practices and Public religion which what was wrong with the Corban of the Pharisees and at the root of the Christian conflict with Rome and its Temples.
Christ's appointed Church took from some to feed others but that giving and taking was a free society because it was based on charity as John the Baptist and Jesus taught. This was no different than the freewill offerings of Moses's Republic or Abraham's Altars.
The Church took from one class of citizen and gave to another too.
In about AD 150, Justin Martyr, hoping to clear the misconceptions and prejudices surrounding Christianity, wrote the Emperor of Rome Antoninus Pius in defense of the Christian faith and allegiance to Christ which was the Liturgy of the His Church:
“And the wealthy among us help the needy ... and willing, give what each thinks fit; and what is collected is deposited with the president, who succours the orphans and widows and those who, through sickness or any other cause, are in want, and those who are in bonds and the strangers sojourning among us, and in a word takes care of all who are in need.” (Ch. 65-67)
Justin would not trade his faith in Christ for the benefits of Rome because he knew that what they offered for his welfare was truly a snare of recompense.[14]
"And those who have among us help the needy; and we always keep together; and for all things wherewith we are supplied, we bless the Maker of all through His Son Jesus Christ, and through the Holy Ghost."[17]
The City is the caldron
| Ezekiel's Caldron |
| In Ezekiel 11:2 The "men that devise mischief" are those who suggest that covetous practices of men who call themselves Benefactors but exercise authority are not against God. |
| Ezekiel 11:3 The civil system becomes a caldron where the people are the flesh[12] like the city states of Cain, Nimrod, Sodom, Pharaoh and Caesar's Rome, including the New Deal and Great Society of FDR and LBJ. |
| Those people do not Keep the Commandments[18] and follow the ways of faith, hope, and charity rather than the force, fear, and fealty of the Cities that are a caldron. |
| They are far from "the way of Jesus.[19] |
Zechariah 14:20 In that day shall there be upon the bells[20] of the horses, HOLINESS UNTO THE LORD; and the pots <05518> in the LORD’S house shall be like the bowls before the altar. 21 Yea, every pot <05518> in Jerusalem and in Judah shall be holiness unto the LORD of hosts: and all they that sacrifice shall come and take of them, and seethe therein: and in that day there shall be no more the Canaanite in the house of the LORD of hosts.
Bite one another
If you read way back in Micah they were talking about those who "hate the good, and love the evil". They even supposedly "pluck off their skin", "their flesh from off their bones" and "eat the flesh of my people". [21] They do this and put them in a caldron.
Is the Bible talking about cannibals?
Shall they Go and cry unto the Lord? It goes on to say that God will not hear them when they do cry out. Why?[22]
They talk about people biting one another[23] and goes on to tell you that you won't be able to see clearly like when Christ warned the Pharisees that he would take sight from them.[24]
Those who should warn you will fail to do so and God will raise new shepherds who will warn those who will hear.[25]
Again in Habakkuk we see reference to this idea of biting one another and you shall be booty which is to say a spoil or surety or even Merchandise.[26] This will come about because you have done the same to many nations[27]
This is in accord with as you judge so shall ye be judged and sow the wind reap the whirlwind[28] precept of the Bible. And this warning of woe is also related to covetousness[29]
And then warns again that if you build a city or government that takes the blood[1] of your neighbor through covetousness that you are workers of iniquity.[30]
Even in the New Testament we see this idea that we are called to liberty which requires love but if we bite one another that we will also be devoured.[31]
- ↑ 1.0 1.1 Ezekiel 7:23 Make a chain: for the land is full of bloody crimes, and the city is full of violence.
- Ezekiel 9:9 Then said he unto me, The iniquity of the house of Israel and Judah [is] exceeding great, and the land is full of blood, and the city full of perverseness: for they say, The LORD hath forsaken the earth, and the LORD seeth not.
- Ezekiel 22:2 Now, thou son of man, wilt thou judge, wilt thou judge the bloody city? yea, thou shalt shew her all her abominations.
- Ezekiel 22:3 Then say thou, Thus saith the Lord GOD, The city sheddeth blood in the midst of it, that her time may come, and maketh idols against herself to defile herself.
- Ezekiel 24:6 Wherefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Woe to the bloody city, to the pot whose scum [is] therein, and whose scum is not gone out of it! bring it out piece by piece; let no lot fall upon it.
- Ezekiel 24:9 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Woe to the bloody city! I will even make the pile for fire great.
- Hosea 6:8 Gilead [is] a city of them that work iniquity, [and is] polluted with blood. Cite error: Invalid
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- ↑ Ezekiel 9:9, Ezekiel 11, Ezekiel 22:3, Habakkuk 2:12, Jeremiah 22:13, Micah 3, Hosea 6:8. It is the cities of Cain, and Nimrod, Pharaoh's Egypt or Caesar's Rome but also FDR's New Deal and LBJ's Great Society where the people have one purse, bite one another to obtain free benefits, and love the wages of unrighteousness. It is the Welfare State where Legal charity has replaced the love of Christ and the modern Churches of the world tickle the ears of the people.
- ↑ Flesh pots and caldrons
- Exodus 16:3 "And the children of Israel said unto them, Would to God we had died by the hand of the LORD in the land of Egypt, when we sat by the flesh <01320> pots <05518>, and when we did eat bread to the full; for ye have brought us forth into this wilderness, to kill this whole assembly with hunger."
- Ezekiel 11:3 "Which say, It is not near; let us build houses: this city is the caldron <05518>, and we be the flesh <01320>."
- Ezekiel 11:7 "Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Your slain whom ye have laid in the midst of it, they are the flesh <01320>, and this city is the caldron <05518>: but I will bring you forth out of the midst of it."
- Ezekiel 11:11 "This city shall not be your caldron <05518>, neither shall ye be the flesh <01320> in the midst thereof; but I will judge you in the border of Israel:
- Micah 3:3 "Who also eat the flesh of my people, and flay their skin from off them; and they break their bones, and chop them in pieces, as for the pot <05518>, and as flesh <01320> within the caldron.
- ↑ Proverbs 1:16 For their feet run to evil, and make haste to shed blood.
- Proverbs 6:17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
- Isaiah 59:7 Their feet run to evil, and they make haste to shed innocent blood: their thoughts [are] thoughts of iniquity; wasting and destruction [are] in their paths.
- Jeremiah 7:6 [If] ye oppress not the stranger, the fatherless, and the widow, and shed not innocent blood in this place, neither walk after other gods to your hurt:
- Jeremiah 22:3 Thus saith the LORD; Execute ye judgment and righteousness, and deliver the spoiled out of the hand of the oppressor: and do no wrong, do no violence to the stranger, the fatherless, nor the widow, neither shed innocent blood in this place.
- Jeremiah 22:17 But thine eyes and thine heart [are] not but for thy covetousness, and for to shed innocent blood, and for oppression, and for violence, to do [it].
- Lamentations 4:13 For the sins of her prophets, [and] the iniquities of her priests, that have shed the blood of the just in the midst of her,
- Ezekiel 16:38 And I will judge thee, as women that break wedlock and shed blood are judged; and I will give thee blood in fury and jealousy.
- Ezekiel 22:4 Thou art become guilty in thy blood that thou hast shed; and hast defiled thyself in thine idols which thou hast made; and thou hast caused thy days to draw near, and art come [even] unto thy years: therefore have I made thee a reproach unto the heathen, and a mocking to all countries.
- ↑ Jeremiah 26:15
- ↑ Ezekiel 7:23, Ezekiel 9:9 "Then said he unto me, The iniquity of the house of Israel and Judah [is] exceeding great, and the land is full of blood, and the city full of perverseness: for they say, The LORD hath forsaken the earth, and the LORD seeth not." Ezekiel 22:2 "Now, thou son of man, wilt thou judge, wilt thou judge the bloody city? yea, thou shalt shew her all her abominations. 3 Then say thou, Thus saith the Lord GOD, The city sheddeth blood in the midst of it, that her time may come, and maketh idols against herself to defile herself. 4 Thou art become guilty in thy blood that thou hast shed; and hast defiled thyself in thine idols which thou hast made; and thou hast caused thy days to draw near, and art come [even] unto thy years: therefore have I made thee a reproach unto the heathen, and a mocking to all countries."Ezekiel 24:6 Wherefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Woe to the bloody city, to the pot whose scum [is] therein, and whose scum is not gone out of it! bring it out piece by piece; let no lot fall upon it. 7 For her blood is in the midst of her; she set it upon the top of a rock; she poured it not upon the ground, to cover it with dust; 8 That it might cause fury to come up to take vengeance; I have set her blood upon the top of a rock, that it should not be covered. 9 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Woe to the bloody city! I will even make the pile for fire great.
- ↑ Hosea 6:8 "Gilead [is] a city of them that work iniquity, [and is] polluted with blood. 9 And as troops of robbers wait for a man, [so] the company of priests murder in the way by consent: for they commit lewdness."
- ↑ Nahum 3:1 "Woe to the bloody city! it [is] all full of lies [and] robbery; the prey departeth not;"
- ↑ Habakkuk 2:8 Because thou hast spoiled many nations, all the remnant of the people shall spoil thee; because of men’s blood, and [for] the violence of the land, of the city, and of all that dwell therein. ... 12 Woe to him that buildeth a town with blood, and stablisheth a city by iniquity I!...17 For the violence of Lebanon shall cover thee, and the spoil of beasts, [which] made them afraid, because of men’s blood, and for the violence of the land, of the city, and of all that dwell therein.
- ↑ Revelation 14:20 And the winepress was trodden without the city, and blood came out of the winepress, even unto the horse bridles, by the space of a thousand [and] six hundred furlongs.
- ↑ 01318 בָּשַׁס bashac [baw-shas’] a primitive root BeitShinSamech; v; [BDB-143b] [{See TWOT on 294 }] AV-treading 1; 1
- 1) to tread down, trample
- 1a) (Poel) trampling
- 1) to tread down, trample
- ↑ 12.0 12.1 Normally seen as BeitShinReish but in Exodus we see HeyBeitShinReish which is also used in Ezekiel 11:3-7
01320 ^רשׂב^ BeitShinReish basar \@baw-sawr’\@ from 01319 Basar to bear news, bear tidings, publish, preach, show forth; see also 01321 flesh; n m; AV-flesh 256, body 2, fatfleshed + 01277 2, leanfleshed + 01851 2, kin 2, leanfleshed + 07534 1, mankind + 0376 1, myself 1, nakedness 1, skin 1; 269- 1) flesh
- 1a) of the body
- 1a1) of humans
- 1a2) of animals
- 1b) the body itself
- 1c) male organ of generation (euphemism)
- 1d) kindred, blood-relations
- 1e) flesh as frail or erring (man against God)
- 1f) all living things
- 1g) animals
- 1h) mankind
- 1a) of the body
- 1) flesh
- ↑ We talk about in the Twenty-fourth hour in series. The mark of Cain. Civil authority; Ruled by consent. The anatomy of the kingdom; the way of the kingdom. Resist not evil. Responsible giving. A cauldron of flesh. “City” and “terror” are the same word in Hebrew. Casting gold and silver in the streets; U.S. citizens cannot own gold, they can only have legal title. Givers and takers. Codifying the law. http://www.hisholychurch.net/kkvv/x7%20folder/140506sacredpurpose24anatomy.mp3 http://www.preparingyou.com/wiki/Audio2014#Sacred_Purpose_in_Faith
- ↑ 14.0 14.1 Psalms 69:22 "Let their table <07979> become a snare before them: and [that which should have been] for [their] welfare, [let it become] a trap."
- Romans 11:9 "And David saith, Let their table<5132> be made a snare, and a trap, and a stumblingblock, and a recompence unto them:"
- ↑ Ezekiel 16:49 Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy.
- Leviticus 25:35 And if thy brother be waxen poor, and fallen in decay with thee; then thou shalt relieve him: yea, though he be a stranger, or a sojourner; that he may live with thee. 36 Take thou no usury of him, or increase: but fear thy God; that thy brother may live with thee. 37 Thou shalt not give him thy money upon usury, nor lend him thy victuals for increase. 38 I am the LORD your God, which brought you forth out of the land of Egypt, to give you the land of Canaan, and to be your God.
- ↑ : Micah 3:1 And I said, Hear, I pray you, O heads of Jacob, and ye princes of the house of Israel; [Is it] not for you to know judgment?
- 2 Who hate the good, and love the evil; who pluck off their skin from off them, and their flesh from off their bones;
- 3 Who also eat the flesh of my people, and flay their skin from off them; and they break their bones, and chop them in pieces, as for the pot, and as flesh within the caldron.
- 4 Then shall they cry unto the LORD, but he will not hear them: he will even hide his face from them at that time, as they have behaved themselves ill in their doings.
- 5 Thus saith the LORD concerning the prophets that make my people err, that bite with their teeth, and cry, Peace; and he that putteth not into their mouths, they even prepare war against him.
- 6 Therefore night shall be unto you, that ye shall not have a vision; and it shall be dark unto you, that ye shall not divine; and the sun shall go down over the prophets, and the day shall be dark over them. {that … : vision: Heb. from a vision } {that … : divine: Heb. from divining }
- 7 Then shall the seers be ashamed, and the diviners confounded: yea, they shall all cover their lips; for there is no answer of God.
- 8 But truly I am full of power by the spirit of the LORD, and of judgment, and of might, to declare unto Jacob his transgression, and to Israel his sin.
- ↑ Chapter LXVII.—Weekly worship of the Christians. The Apostolic author Justin Martyr.
- ↑ Matthew 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? [there is] none good but one, [that is], God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
- Mark 7:9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.
- John 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
- John 14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
- John 15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father’s commandments, and abide in his love.
- 1 Timothy 6:14 That thou keep [this] commandment without spot, unrebukeable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ:
- 1 John 2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. 4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
- 1 John 3:22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight.
- 1 John 3:24 And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.
- 1 John 5:2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.
- 1 John 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.
- Revelation 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
- Revelation 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here [are] they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
- ↑ Proverbs 4:24 Put away from thee a froward mouth, and perverse lips put far from thee.
- Isaiah 29:13 Wherefore the Lord said, Forasmuch as this people draw near [me] with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men:
- Isaiah 30:27 Behold, the name of the LORD cometh from far, burning [with] his anger, and the burden [thereof is] heavy: his lips are full of indignation, and his tongue as a devouring fire:
- Isaiah 57:19 I create the fruit of the lips; Peace, peace to [him that is] far off, and to [him that is] near, saith the LORD; and I will heal him.
- Matthew 15:8 This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with [their] lips; but their heart is far from me.
- Mark 7:6 He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with [their] lips, but their heart is far from me.
- ↑ bells: or, bridles
- ↑ Micah 3:1 And I said, Hear, I pray you, O heads of Jacob, and ye princes of the house of Israel; Is it not for you to know judgment? 2 Who hate the good, and love the evil; who pluck off their skin from off them, and their flesh from off their bones; 3 Who also eat the flesh of my people, and flay their skin from off them; and they break their bones, and chop them in pieces, as for the pot, and as flesh within the caldron.
- ↑ Micah 3:4 Then shall they cry unto the LORD, but he will not hear them: he will even hide his face from them at that time, as they have behaved themselves ill in their doings.
- ↑ Micah 3:5 Thus saith the LORD concerning the prophets that make my people err, that bite with their teeth, and cry, Peace; and he that putteth not into their mouths, they even prepare war against him.
- ↑ Micah 3:6 Therefore night shall be unto you, that ye shall not have a vision; and it shall be dark unto you, that ye shall not divine; and the sun shall go down over the prophets, and the day shall be dark over them.
- ↑ Micah 3:7 Then shall the seers be ashamed, and the diviners confounded: yea, they shall all cover their lips; for there is no answer of God. 8 But truly I am full of power by the spirit of the LORD, and of judgment, and of might, to declare unto Jacob his transgression, and to Israel his sin.
- ↑ Habakkuk 2:6 Shall not all these take up a parable against him, and a taunting proverb against him, and say, Woe to him that increaseth that which is not his! how long? and to him that ladeth himself with thick clay! 7 Shall they not rise up suddenly that shall bite thee, and awake that shall vex thee, and thou shalt be for booties unto them?
- ↑ Habakkuk 2:8 Because thou hast spoiled many nations, all the remnant of the people shall spoil thee; because of men’s blood, and for the violence of the land, of the city, and of all that dwell therein.
- ↑ Hosea 8:7 For they have sown the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind: it hath no stalk: the bud shall yield no meal: if so be it yield, the strangers shall swallow it up.
- ↑ Habakkuk 2:9 Woe to him that coveteth an evil covetousness to his house, that he may set his nest on high, that he may be delivered from the power of evil! 10 Thou hast consulted shame to thy house by cutting off many people, and hast sinned against thy soul. 11 For the stone shall cry out of the wall, and the beam out of the timber shall answer it.
- ↑ Habakkuk 2:12 Woe to him that buildeth a town with blood, and stablisheth a city by iniquity!
- ↑ Galatians 5:13 For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another. 14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 15 But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another. 16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. 17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. 18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.