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Both Josephus and Tacitus agreed and wrote of Jesus' Crucifixion. Roman historian Tacitus referred to 'Christus' and his execution by Pontius Pilate in his Annals (written ca. AD 116), book 15, chapter 44. The very negative tone of Tacitus' comments on Christians make the passage extremely unlikely to have been forged by a Christian scribe. The Tacitus reference is now widely accepted as an independent confirmation of Christ's crucifixion, although some scholars question the authenticity of the passage on various different grounds. | Both Josephus and Tacitus agreed and wrote of Jesus' Crucifixion. Roman historian Tacitus referred to 'Christus' and his execution by Pontius Pilate in his Annals (written ca. AD 116), book 15, chapter 44. The very negative tone of Tacitus' comments on Christians make the passage extremely unlikely to have been forged by a Christian scribe. The Tacitus reference is now widely accepted as an independent confirmation of Christ's crucifixion, although some scholars question the authenticity of the passage on various different grounds. | ||
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus | ||
== On Christians == | |||
Tacitus calls Christianity “the deadly superstition,” one among “the shocking and shameful things” which flow into the city of Rome. He explains that the Christians were “hated for their crimes” and were brought to trial for their opposition of the human race. Of course the problem was the [[Christian conflict]] with their institutions of [[social welfare]] of the pagan [[temples]] which the Romans loved and the Christians saw as [[idolatry]] because of the method and manner of its [[covet]]ous means.<Ref name="Isidolatry">{{Isidolatry}}</Ref> | |||
Tacitus' is generally considered reliable but his lack of sympathy for Jews and Christians has been obvious. The question is why? | |||
The Christian system of [[social welfare]] was in opposition to that of the [[Corban]] of the [[Pharisees]]. Christians practiced [[Pure Religion]] through a [[daily ministration]] of [[fervent charity]]. The [[Corban of Christ]], by its voluntary nature was in opposition with the methods of [[Fathers]] and [[benefactors]] of [[Rome]] who [[exercise authority|exercised authority]]<Ref name="exauth">{{exauth}}</Ref> or the [[ruler]]s and their [[dainties]] which was [[snare|snare and a trap]].<Ref name="snaretrap">{{snaretrap}}</Ref> The Bible had long opposed seemed an attack on the delusion that their system of Legal charity was moral. Many Romans new. | |||
Tacitus’ Annals contain a well-known account and criticism of Emperor Nero’s [[persecution]] of Christian blaming them for a fire he may have had started. Tacitus calls Christianity “the deadly superstition,” one among “the shocking and shameful things” which flow into the city of Rome. He explains that the Christians were “hated for their crimes” and reports that they were brought to trial for hatred of the human race. Tacitus admits that Nero made the Christians scapegoats in order to deflect the scandalous rumors surrounding him. In the same breath, Tacitus adds that the Christians really “were guilty and deserving of the most unusual exemplary punishments” (Ann. 15.44.2–5). | |||
== On Germans== | |||
* “The communities are wont, of their own accord and man by man, to bestow upon their Princes a certain number of beasts, or a certain portion of grain; a contribution which passes indeed for a mark of reverence and honour, but serves also to supply their necessities.”<Ref>Tacitus says of the ancient Germans, in Germania 15,</Ref> | * “The communities are wont, of their own accord and man by man, to bestow upon their Princes a certain number of beasts, or a certain portion of grain; a contribution which passes indeed for a mark of reverence and honour, but serves also to supply their necessities.”<Ref>Tacitus says of the ancient Germans, in Germania 15,</Ref> | ||
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Tacitus
Publius Tacitus (also Gaius Cornelius Tacitus; c. 56–after 117 AD), Roman orator, lawyer, and senator. He is considered one of antiquity's greatest historians.
"The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." Publius Tacitus
"The more corrupt the state, the more laws." Publius Tacitus
- “Tacitus repeatedly contrasts the res publica under the emperors with the pre-Augustus libera res publica; and in the Germania 37, encountering the disasters which Germans inflicted upon the res publica Romanorum, he distinguishes between the old res publica, which he calls the populus Romanus, and the new res publica, which he calls “Caesar.” The old res publica hardly had the mixed constitution which dreamers assigned it and which actually never can exist, but it was something greater and majestic which lives on as a glorious memory in a mean age.”[1] see Republican form
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- "The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws." Publius Tacitus
- "To plunder, to slaughter, to steal, these things they misname empire; and where they make a wilderness, they call it peace." Publius Tacitus
- "The desire for safety stands against every great and noble enterprise." Publius Tacitus
- "A bad peace is even worse than war." Publius Tacitus
- "In a state where corruption abounds, laws must be very numerous." Publius Tacitus
- "Reason and judgment are the qualities of a leader." Publius Tacitus
- "Truth is confirmed by inspection and delay; falsehood by haste and uncertainty." Publius Tacitus
- "Many who seem to be struggling with adversity are happy; many, amid great affluence, are utterly miserable." Publius Tacitus
- "A shocking crime was committed on the unscrupulous initiative of few individuals, with the blessing of more, and amid the passive acquiescence of all." Publius Tacitus
- "Things forbidden have a secret charm." Publius Tacitus
- "Fear is not in the habit of speaking truth; when perfect sincerity is expected, perfect freedom must be allowed; nor has anyone who is apt to be angry when he hears the truth any cause to wonder that he does not hear it." Publius Tacitus
- "Many who seem to be struggling with adversity are happy; many, amid great affluence, are utterly miserable." Publius Tacitus
The Agricola and The Germania
- "It is the rare fortune of these days that a man may think what he likes and say what he thinks." Publius Tacitus, The Complete Tacitus Anthology: The Histories, The Annals, Germania, Agricola, A Dialogue on Oratory
- "They have plundered the world, stripping naked the land in their hunger… they are driven by greed, if their enemy be rich; by ambition, if poor… They ravage, they slaughter, they seize by false pretenses, and all of this they hail as the construction of empire. And when in their wake nothing remains but a desert, they call that peace." Publius Tacitus, The Agricola and The Germania
- "This is in the sense that the matrimonial bond was strictly observed by the Germanic peoples, this being compared favorably against licentiousness in Rome. Tacitus appears to hold the fairly strict monogamy (with some exceptions among nobles who marry again) between Germanic husbands and wives, and the chastity among the unmarried to be worthy of the highest praise. " Publius Tacitus, The Agricola and The Germania (Ch. 18).
- "No one in Germany laughs at vice, nor do they call it the fashion to corrupt and to be corrupted." Publius Tacitus, Chapter 19
- "Nay, the Germans even ascribe to women a certain inspiration and power of prophecy ; they do not either despise the advice they give or neglect their forecasts." Publius Tacitus
- "Their traditions tell that more than once, when a German line was wavering on the point of giving way, the women rallied it, urgently entreating the men to fight on, baring their breasts and crying out that their captivity was at hand. Captivity for their women is a thing the men abhor far more than for themselves." Publius Tacitus
- "Unlike the great majority of barbarians, they are content with one wife ..." Publius Tacitus
- "the wedding gifts... are no toys collected to suit feminine frivolities or adorn a bride ; instead of that, they consist of oxen, and a bridled horse, and shield and spear and sword. These are the presents that await her as a wife, and her own wedding present to her husband in return is a gift of arms. This is the strongest bond of union this the mystery of marriage ; these are their gods of wedded life. Lest the woman should think that masculine courage and the perils of war lie beyond her sphere, these tokens remind her upon the threshold of marriage that she comes as the man's partner in toils and dangers ; and that in peace and in war she must expect ... to dare the same." Publius Tacitus
- "So they [German women] guard the chastity of their lives, with no shows to entice them nor orgies to excite their evil passions... To men and women alike such a thing as secret correspondence is unknown... Amongst all this immense [race's] population adultery is extremely rare, a woman becomes a wife with a wife's hopes and wishes once and once only....to the end that she may not look beyond him nor let her desires stray further ...To limit the number of the family or to put to death any of the later-born infants is held to be an abomination, and with the Germans good customs have more authority than good laws elsewhere!" Publius Tacitus
- Idque apud imperitos humanitas vocabatur, cum pars servitutis esset.
- "Because they didn't know better, they called it "civilization," when it was part of their slavery." Publius Tacitus.
On Jesus
Non-Christian sources which are used to study and establish the historicity of Jesus include Jewish sources such as Josephus, and Roman sources such as Tacitus. The sources are compared to Christian sources such as the Pauline Letters and the Synoptic Gospels, and are usually independent of each other (e.g. Jewish sources do not draw upon Roman sources), and similarities and differences between them are used in the authentication process.
Both Josephus and Tacitus agreed and wrote of Jesus' Crucifixion. Roman historian Tacitus referred to 'Christus' and his execution by Pontius Pilate in his Annals (written ca. AD 116), book 15, chapter 44. The very negative tone of Tacitus' comments on Christians make the passage extremely unlikely to have been forged by a Christian scribe. The Tacitus reference is now widely accepted as an independent confirmation of Christ's crucifixion, although some scholars question the authenticity of the passage on various different grounds.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus
On Christians
Tacitus calls Christianity “the deadly superstition,” one among “the shocking and shameful things” which flow into the city of Rome. He explains that the Christians were “hated for their crimes” and were brought to trial for their opposition of the human race. Of course the problem was the Christian conflict with their institutions of social welfare of the pagan temples which the Romans loved and the Christians saw as idolatry because of the method and manner of its covetous means.[2]
Tacitus' is generally considered reliable but his lack of sympathy for Jews and Christians has been obvious. The question is why?
The Christian system of social welfare was in opposition to that of the Corban of the Pharisees. Christians practiced Pure Religion through a daily ministration of fervent charity. The Corban of Christ, by its voluntary nature was in opposition with the methods of Fathers and benefactors of Rome who exercised authority[3] or the rulers and their dainties which was snare and a trap.[4] The Bible had long opposed seemed an attack on the delusion that their system of Legal charity was moral. Many Romans new.
Tacitus’ Annals contain a well-known account and criticism of Emperor Nero’s persecution of Christian blaming them for a fire he may have had started. Tacitus calls Christianity “the deadly superstition,” one among “the shocking and shameful things” which flow into the city of Rome. He explains that the Christians were “hated for their crimes” and reports that they were brought to trial for hatred of the human race. Tacitus admits that Nero made the Christians scapegoats in order to deflect the scandalous rumors surrounding him. In the same breath, Tacitus adds that the Christians really “were guilty and deserving of the most unusual exemplary punishments” (Ann. 15.44.2–5).
On Germans
- “The communities are wont, of their own accord and man by man, to bestow upon their Princes a certain number of beasts, or a certain portion of grain; a contribution which passes indeed for a mark of reverence and honour, but serves also to supply their necessities.”[5]
The words 'of their own accord' is from the Latin 'ultro' meaning 'voluntarily'. “[O]ur modern reliance on government to make law and establish order is not the historical norm.”[6] See Orders
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- ↑ The Ruling Power: A Study Of The Roman Empire In The Second Century After Christ Through The Roman Oration Of Aelius Aristides, James H. Oliver, Kessinger Publishing, July 25, 2006. ISBN-13: 978-1428659315.
- ↑ Covetousness is idolatry
- Colossians 3:5 "Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry: 6 For which things’ sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience:"
- Ephesians 5:5 "For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God."
- 1 Corinthians 5:10 "Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world. 11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat."
- For it is written that the tables of dainties provided by rulers of the world are a snare because they cause the masses to bite one another through government systems of legal charity which are covetous practices which are a form of fornication or adultery where the people are devoured as merchandise, curse children and are "entangled again in the yoke of bondage" with the aid of the false religion of the whore who rides the beast.
- ↑ Not exercise authority
- Matthew 20:25 "But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Ye know that the princes of the Gentiles exercise dominion over them, and they that are great exercise authority upon them. But it shall not be so among you:..."
- Mark 10:42 "But Jesus called them to him, and saith unto them, Ye know that they which are accounted to rule over the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and their great ones exercise authority upon them. But so shall it not be among you:..."
- Luke 22:25 "And he said unto them, The kings of the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and they that exercise authority upon them are called benefactors. But ye [shall] not [be] so:..."
- ↑ Table as a snare
- Psalms 69:22-23 “Let their table become a snare before them: and that which should have been for their welfare, let it become a trap. 23 Let their eyes be darkened, that they see not; and make their loins continually to shake."”
- Romans 11:9 “And David saith, Let their table be made a snare, and a trap, and a stumblingblock, and a recompence unto them:”
- Proverbs 23:1 "When thou sittest to eat with a ruler, consider diligently what [is] before thee: 2 And put a knife to thy throat, if thou be a man given to appetite. 3 Be not desirous of his dainties: for they are deceitful meat."
- Exodus 23:32 "Thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor with their gods. 33 They shall not dwell in thy land, lest they make thee sin against me: for if thou serve their gods, it will surely be a snare unto thee."
- Exodus 34:12 "Take heed to thyself, lest thou make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land whither thou goest, lest it be for a snare in the midst of thee:"
- Deuteronomy 7:16 "And thou shalt consume all the people which the LORD thy God shall deliver thee; thine eye shall have no pity upon them: neither shalt thou serve their gods; for that [will be] a snare unto thee."
- Judges 2:2 "And ye shall make no league [covenant] with the inhabitants of this land; ye shall throw down their altars: but ye have not obeyed my voice: why have ye done this?"
- Proverbs 1:10 "My son, if sinners entice thee, consent thou not."
- Proverbs 6:2 “Thou art snared with the words of thy mouth, thou art taken with the words of thy mouth.” Swear not
- Luke 21:34 "And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and [so] that day come upon you unawares. 35 For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth."
- 1 Timothy 6:9 "But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and [into] many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition. 10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows."
- "Have ye not known? have ye not heard? hath it not been told you from the beginning? have ye not understood from the foundations of the earth?" Isaiah 40:21 is about the message of John the Baptist who was "The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the LORD, make straight in the desert a highway for our God" Isaiah 40:3 to avoid the "snare" of the legal charity of the welfare state which which makes the word of God to none effect bringing man back into captivity as human resources.
- ↑ Tacitus says of the ancient Germans, in Germania 15,
- ↑ The Enterprise of Law: Justice without the State. Bruce L. Benson Publisher: Pacific Research Institute for Public Policy (San Francisco), 1991 ’
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