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Without a clear answer to those two questions, there may be no honestly true answer to the first.
Without a clear answer to those two questions, there may be no honestly true answer to the first.


One of the first questions that must be answered to come to an honest discussion is "What is [[religion]]?"
One of the first questions that must be answered to come to an honest discussion of ''God'' and ''belief'' is "What is [[religion]]?"


For a Christian, the question should be "What is [[Pure Religion]]?"
Today we commonly think that religion is what we think about God or a supreme being. But that is not the original definition. '''[[Religion]]''' was ir centuries and at the time of Christ a "''duty'' to God and our fellowman". That duty included the actions of [[love]] both for God and our neighbor and even the stranger and our enemy. For a Christian, the question should be "What is [[Pure Religion]]?"


For centuries "divine law" or "divine will" was defined as "[[Natural law|right reason]]". Mankind was supposedly ''made in the image of God'' but it appears that many people have chosen to remake God in their own image or at least in their imagination. This has been done in the name of religion but again what is the meaning of [[Religion]]. This is the essence of [[idolatry]]. It is also at the core of all the evil or wickedness or iniquity done in the name of religion.
For centuries "divine law" or "divine will" was defined as "[[Natural law|right reason]]". Mankind was supposedly ''made in the image of God'' but it appears that many people have chosen to remake God in their own image or at least in their imagination. This has been done in the name of religion but again what is the meaning of [[Religion]]. This imagined God or [[Jesus]] is the essence of [[idolatry]]. It is also at the core of all the evil or wickedness or iniquity done in the name of religion. Without a willingness to critically look at the whole [[gospel of the kingdom]] the whole [[world]] may be deceived and brought under a [[strong delusion]].


Most [[Atheist]]s simply rename the [[gods]] of their life but they still believe there is a need for something greater than themselves.
Most [[Atheist]]s simply rename the [[gods]] of their life but they still believe there is a need for something greater than themselves. [[Socialism]] is the [[religion]] you get when you have no [[Pure Religion]].


Those who are willing to use religious terms see the universe as created by someone identified as God who is even called the "Creator".<Ref>Ecclesiastes 12:1  Remember now thy Creator in the days of thy youth, while the evil days come not, nor the years draw nigh, when thou shalt say, I have no pleasure in them;
Those who are willing to use religious terms see the universe as created by someone identified as God who is even called the "Creator".<Ref>Ecclesiastes 12:1  Remember now thy Creator in the days of thy youth, while the evil days come not, nor the years draw nigh, when thou shalt say, I have no pleasure in them;
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: 1 Peter 4:19  Wherefore let them that suffer according to the will of God commit the keeping of their souls to him in well doing, as unto a faithful Creator.</Ref> That "Divine Creator" built into creation a Divine pattern of "cause and effect" with uniformity throughout the observable universe.  
: 1 Peter 4:19  Wherefore let them that suffer according to the will of God commit the keeping of their souls to him in well doing, as unto a faithful Creator.</Ref> That "Divine Creator" built into creation a Divine pattern of "cause and effect" with uniformity throughout the observable universe.  


It is clear that "God" or a "god" is someone or something greater than ourselves. If '''[[religion]]''' is ''how you perform your duty to that "God" or "[[gods]]"  and your fellow man'' and [[pure religion]] is performing that duty to your fellow man through [[love]] and [[charity]] rather than the [[force]] required in [[socialism]] then there are a lot of [[modern Christians]] who say they ''believe in God'' but remain [[workers of iniquity]].
It is clear that "God" or a "god" is someone or something greater than ourselves. If '''[[religion]]''' is ''how you perform your duty to that "God" or "[[gods]]"  and your fellowman'' and [[pure religion]] is performing that duty to your fellow man through [[love]] and [[charity]] rather than the [[force]]. [[ear]], and [[fealty]] required in the [[socialist]] State then there are a lot of [[modern Christians]] who say they ''believe in God'' but remain [[workers of iniquity]].


Understanding why Christ [[commanded]] the His [[disciples|student ministers]] to organize the people in patterns of [[tens]] before there was to be a distribution of the ''loaves and fishes'' made available by sharing may call us to a better comprehension of the importance of [[fervent charity]] in the practice of [[Pure Religion]].
Understanding why Christ [[commanded]] the His [[disciples|student ministers]] to organize the people in patterns of [[tens]] before there was to be a distribution of the ''loaves and fishes'' made available by sharing through [[charity]] may call us to a better comprehension of the importance of [[fervent charity]] in the practice of [[Pure Religion]]. That of course would be true [[repentance]].


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Belief in God

Description Jordan Peterson vs Susan Blackmore • Do we need God to make sense of life? If that question is to be answered other terms must be defined. Certainly the word "God" but also words like belief and religion and even the word life. Jordan B Peterson who considers himself religious debates the psychology of religious belief with atheist academic Susan Blackmore in the first episode of The Big Conversation. Susan is not grateful to "God" but to the "Universe". She does not see a need for "religion" because she defines religion, like so many others today, as "what you think about supreme being" but she does believe in public religion and the "gods many" required to operate a socialist utopia with health care and social programs that make life good but always at the expense of her neighbor. By subtly changing the definition of religion from a duty to an opinion about God people did not see the establishment of public Social Security as the transference of a religious duty to a government that exercises authority. The atheist still believes in religion and gods but they now call it social justice and government. Instead of depending on charity and hope they choose to take away the choice of the individual and apply force to accomplish their covetous practices. Polybius and the prophets warned us of the result of such choices. Time 47 min

The question "Do you Believe in God?" creates at least two more questions that must be answered first.

What do you mean by "belief"?

What do you mean by "God"?

Without a clear answer to those two questions, there may be no honestly true answer to the first.

One of the first questions that must be answered to come to an honest discussion of God and belief is "What is religion?"

Today we commonly think that religion is what we think about God or a supreme being. But that is not the original definition. Religion was ir centuries and at the time of Christ a "duty to God and our fellowman". That duty included the actions of love both for God and our neighbor and even the stranger and our enemy. For a Christian, the question should be "What is Pure Religion?"

For centuries "divine law" or "divine will" was defined as "right reason". Mankind was supposedly made in the image of God but it appears that many people have chosen to remake God in their own image or at least in their imagination. This has been done in the name of religion but again what is the meaning of Religion. This imagined God or Jesus is the essence of idolatry. It is also at the core of all the evil or wickedness or iniquity done in the name of religion. Without a willingness to critically look at the whole gospel of the kingdom the whole world may be deceived and brought under a strong delusion.

Most Atheists simply rename the gods of their life but they still believe there is a need for something greater than themselves. Socialism is the religion you get when you have no Pure Religion.

Those who are willing to use religious terms see the universe as created by someone identified as God who is even called the "Creator".[1] That "Divine Creator" built into creation a Divine pattern of "cause and effect" with uniformity throughout the observable universe.

It is clear that "God" or a "god" is someone or something greater than ourselves. If religion is how you perform your duty to that "God" or "gods" and your fellowman and pure religion is performing that duty to your fellow man through love and charity rather than the force. ear, and fealty required in the socialist State then there are a lot of modern Christians who say they believe in God but remain workers of iniquity.

Understanding why Christ commanded the His student ministers to organize the people in patterns of tens before there was to be a distribution of the loaves and fishes made available by sharing through charity may call us to a better comprehension of the importance of fervent charity in the practice of Pure Religion. That of course would be true repentance.



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To find the answers, we must seek and strive to do what Jesus said the way He said to do it... Including attending to the Weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith which include caring for the needs of our neighbors and the widows and orphans of our society through Pure Religion in matters of health, education, and welfare. We are NOT to provide for the needy of society through the Covetous Practices and the men who call themselves benefactors but who exercise authority one over the other like the socialists do.

The Way of Christ was like neither the way of the world of Rome nor the governments of the gentiles who depend on those fathers of the earth through force, fear and fealty who deliver the people back in bondage again like they were in Egypt. Christ's ministers and true Christians do not depend upon systems of social welfare that force the contributions of the people like the corban of the Pharisees which made the word of God to none effect. Many people have been deceived to go the way of Balaam and the Nicolaitan and out of The Way of Christ and have become workers of iniquity.

The Christian conflict with Rome in the first century Church appointed by Christ was because they would not apply to the fathers of the earth for their free bread but instead relied upon a voluntary network providing a daily ministration to the needy of society through Faith, Hope, and Charity by way of freewill offerings of the people, for the people, and by the people through the perfect law of liberty in Free Assemblies according to the ancient pattern of Tuns or Tens as He commanded.

The modern Christians are in need of repentance.


"Follow me!" —Jesus the Christ.


  1. Ecclesiastes 12:1 Remember now thy Creator in the days of thy youth, while the evil days come not, nor the years draw nigh, when thou shalt say, I have no pleasure in them;
    Isaiah 40:28 Hast thou not known? hast thou not heard, that the everlasting God, the LORD, the Creator of the ends of the earth, fainteth not, neither is weary? there is no searching of his understanding.
    Romans 1:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
    1 Peter 4:19 Wherefore let them that suffer according to the will of God commit the keeping of their souls to him in well doing, as unto a faithful Creator.
  2. Matthew 20:25-26 But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Ye know that the princes of the Gentiles exercise dominion over them, and they that are great exercise authority upon them. But it shall not be so among you: but whosoever will be great among you, let him be your minister;
    Mark 10:42-43 But Jesus called them to him, and saith unto them, Ye know that they which are accounted to rule over the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and their great ones exercise authority upon them. But so shall it not be among you: but whosoever will be great among you, shall be your minister:
    Luke 22:25-26 And he said unto them, The kings of the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and they that exercise authority upon them are called benefactors. But ye shall not be so: but he that is greatest among you, let him be as the younger; and he that is chief, as he that doth serve.