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| V9 "What profit hath he that worketh in that wherein he laboureth?" Where the word ''profit'' is the same Hebrew word (yithrown (יִתְרוֹן))<Ref name="yithrown">{{03504}}</Ref> translated as ''excelleth'' concerning man's "wisdom" which we saw in [[Ecclesiastes 2]]:13. But here we are told our own labor will not be profitable without God's | | There is a season and a time for everything. But [[Moses]] made a choice to give up pleasure for a season for the welfare of the people.<Ref>[[Hebrews 11]]:23 By faith Moses, when he was born, was hid three months of his parents, because they saw [he was] a proper child; and they were not afraid of the king’s commandment. 24 By faith Moses, when he was come to years, refused to be called the son of Pharaoh’s daughter; 25 Choosing rather to suffer affliction with the people of God, than to enjoy the ''pleasures of sin for a season''; 26 Esteeming the reproach of Christ greater riches than the treasures in Egypt: for he had respect unto the recompence of the reward. 27 By faith he forsook Egypt, not fearing the wrath of the king: for he endured, as seeing him who is invisible. 28 Through faith he kept the passover, and the sprinkling of blood, lest he that destroyed the firstborn should touch them. 29 By faith they passed through the Red sea as by dry [land]: which the Egyptians assaying to do were drowned. 30 By faith the walls of Jericho fell down, after they were compassed about seven days. 31 By faith the harlot Rahab perished not with them that believed not, when she had received the spies with peace.</Ref> | ||
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| V9 "What profit hath he that worketh in that wherein he laboureth?" Where the word ''profit'' is the same Hebrew word (yithrown (יִתְרוֹן))<Ref name="yithrown">{{03504}}</Ref> translated as ''excelleth'' concerning man's "wisdom" which we saw in [[Ecclesiastes 2]]:13. But here we are told our own labor will not be profitable without God's spirit which does not come from the [[tree of knowledge]]. | |||
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| V10 ''exercised'' is the word עָנָה ‘anah<Ref name="anah1">{{06031}}</Ref> and appears as la‘ănōwṯ (לַעֲנ֥וֹת) which is defined "to be occupied" or "to afflict, oppress, humble". Commentaries seem to have some difficulty with this verse. Is this laănōwṯ (לַעֲנ֥וֹת) a punishment, an oppression or is it a gift calling us to [[repent]]ance? | | V10 ''exercised'' is the word עָנָה ‘anah<Ref name="anah1">{{06031}}</Ref> and appears as la‘ănōwṯ (לַעֲנ֥וֹת) which is defined "to be occupied" or "to afflict, oppress, humble". Commentaries seem to have some difficulty with this verse. Is this laănōwṯ (לַעֲנ֥וֹת) a punishment, an oppression or is it a gift calling us to [[repent]]ance? | ||
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| V11 Is God's desire to make "every [thing] beautiful". There is no good in us but if we let the spirit of God in us good may move through us(V12 "to do good in his life." But we must fast from our own willful spirit. | | V11 Is God's desire to make "every [thing] beautiful". There is no good in us but if we let the spirit of God in us good may move through us(V12 "to do good in his life." But we must fast from our own willful spirit. | ||
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| But in | | But in '''V13''' it is clear that God is [[capitalist]]. "enjoy the good of all his labour, it [is] the gift of God." | ||
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| V14 But "whatsoever God doeth" through us is [[eternal life|eternal]] and protected for no "thing taken from it" and any that do "should fear" God. | | V14 But "whatsoever God doeth" through us is [[eternal life|eternal]] and protected for no "thing taken from it" and any that do "should fear" God. | ||
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|V18, v19 and V21 As beasts we are animals and we can be brought down by our animal nature. | |V18, v19 and V21 As beasts we are animals and we can be brought down by our animal nature. | ||
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| We shall | | We shall know the spirit of a man by what he does.<Ref name="doworks">{{doworks}}</Ref> | ||
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| | | V22 "a man should rejoice in his own works; for that is his portion:" This is a repeat of what we saw in verse 13, "enjoy the good of all his labour, it [is] the gift of God." and is why we see "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness." [[Declaration of Independence]] | ||
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| Summary: Addressing "wickedness was there; and ... [[iniquity]]" we see it repeated that everyman's labor belongs to himself by the endowment of God. The question is asked what is the ''spirit that leads a man upward'', and the spirit ''that goeth downward'' which brings man down to ''dust''. | |||
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8 A time to love, and a time to hate; a time of war, and a time of peace. | 8 A time to love, and a time to hate; a time of war, and a time of peace. | ||
== God’s Works Remain Forever == | |||
9 What profit hath he that worketh in that wherein he laboureth? | 9 What profit hath he that worketh in that wherein he laboureth? | ||
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12 I know that there is no good in them, but for a man to rejoice, and to do good in his life. | 12 I know that there is no good in them, but for a man to rejoice, and to do good in his life. | ||
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13 And also that every man should eat and drink, and enjoy the good of all his labour, it is the gift of God. | 13 And also that every man should eat and drink, and enjoy the good of all his labour, it is the gift of God. | ||
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20 All go unto one place; all are of the dust, and all turn to dust again. | 20 All go unto one place; all are of the dust, and all turn to dust again. | ||
=== Two Spirits, even three === | |||
21 Who knoweth the spirit of man that goeth upward, and the spirit of the beast that goeth downward to the earth? | 21 Who knoweth the spirit of man that goeth upward, and the spirit of the beast that goeth downward to the earth? |
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There is a season and a time for everything. But Moses made a choice to give up pleasure for a season for the welfare of the people.[1] |
Jesus foes the same despite the temptations of the evil one. |
V9 "What profit hath he that worketh in that wherein he laboureth?" Where the word profit is the same Hebrew word (yithrown (יִתְרוֹן))[2] translated as excelleth concerning man's "wisdom" which we saw in Ecclesiastes 2:13. But here we are told our own labor will not be profitable without God's spirit which does not come from the tree of knowledge. |
V10 exercised is the word עָנָה ‘anah[3] and appears as la‘ănōwṯ (לַעֲנ֥וֹת) which is defined "to be occupied" or "to afflict, oppress, humble". Commentaries seem to have some difficulty with this verse. Is this laănōwṯ (לַעֲנ֥וֹת) a punishment, an oppression or is it a gift calling us to repentance? |
V11 Is God's desire to make "every [thing] beautiful". There is no good in us but if we let the spirit of God in us good may move through us(V12 "to do good in his life." But we must fast from our own willful spirit. |
But in V13 it is clear that God is capitalist. "enjoy the good of all his labour, it [is] the gift of God." |
V14 But "whatsoever God doeth" through us is eternal and protected for no "thing taken from it" and any that do "should fear" God. |
V15 There is no escape from the law of cause and effect. |
V18, v19 and V21 As beasts we are animals and we can be brought down by our animal nature. |
We shall know the spirit of a man by what he does.[4] |
V22 "a man should rejoice in his own works; for that is his portion:" This is a repeat of what we saw in verse 13, "enjoy the good of all his labour, it [is] the gift of God." and is why we see "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness." Declaration of Independence |
Summary: Addressing "wickedness was there; and ... iniquity" we see it repeated that everyman's labor belongs to himself by the endowment of God. The question is asked what is the spirit that leads a man upward, and the spirit that goeth downward which brings man down to dust. |
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Seasons and times
1 ¶ To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:
2 A time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up that which is planted;
3 A time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up;
4 A time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance;
5 A time to cast away stones, and a time to gather stones together[5]; a time to embrace, and a time to refrain from embracing;
6 A time to get, and a time to lose; a time to keep, and a time to cast away;
7 A time to rend, and a time to sew; a time to keep silence, and a time to speak;
8 A time to love, and a time to hate; a time of war, and a time of peace.
God’s Works Remain Forever
9 What profit hath he that worketh in that wherein he laboureth?
Exercised
10 I have seen the travail, which God hath given to the sons of men to be exercised in it.
11 He hath made every thing beautiful in his time: also he hath set the world in their heart, so that no man can find out the work that God maketh from the beginning to the end.
12 I know that there is no good in them, but for a man to rejoice, and to do good in his life.
The capitalist God
13 And also that every man should eat and drink, and enjoy the good of all his labour, it is the gift of God.
14 I know that, whatsoever God doeth, it shall be for ever: nothing can be put to it, nor any thing taken from it: and God doeth it, that men should fear before him.
15 That which hath been is now; and that which is to be hath already been; and God requireth that which is past.
From Dust to Dust
16 And moreover I saw under the sun the place of judgment, that wickedness was there; and the place of righteousness, that iniquity was there.
17 I said in mine heart, God shall judge the righteous and the wicked: for there is a time there for every purpose and for every work.
18 I said in mine heart concerning the estate of the sons of men, that God might manifest them, and that they might see that they themselves are beasts.
19 For that which befalleth the sons of men befalleth beasts; even one thing befalleth them: as the one dieth, so dieth the other; yea, they have all one breath; so that a man hath no preeminence above a beast: for all is vanity.
20 All go unto one place; all are of the dust, and all turn to dust again.
Two Spirits, even three
21 Who knoweth the spirit of man that goeth upward, and the spirit of the beast that goeth downward to the earth?
22 Wherefore I perceive that there is nothing better, than that a man should rejoice in his own works; for that is his portion: for who shall bring him to see what shall be after him?
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- ↑ Hebrews 11:23 By faith Moses, when he was born, was hid three months of his parents, because they saw [he was] a proper child; and they were not afraid of the king’s commandment. 24 By faith Moses, when he was come to years, refused to be called the son of Pharaoh’s daughter; 25 Choosing rather to suffer affliction with the people of God, than to enjoy the pleasures of sin for a season; 26 Esteeming the reproach of Christ greater riches than the treasures in Egypt: for he had respect unto the recompence of the reward. 27 By faith he forsook Egypt, not fearing the wrath of the king: for he endured, as seeing him who is invisible. 28 Through faith he kept the passover, and the sprinkling of blood, lest he that destroyed the firstborn should touch them. 29 By faith they passed through the Red sea as by dry [land]: which the Egyptians assaying to do were drowned. 30 By faith the walls of Jericho fell down, after they were compassed about seven days. 31 By faith the harlot Rahab perished not with them that believed not, when she had received the spies with peace.
- ↑ 03504 יִתְרוֹן yithrown [yith-rone’] from 03498 יָתַר yathar leave or remain; n m; [BDB-452b] [{See TWOT on 936 @@ "936f" }] AV-profit 5, excelleth 2, excellency 1, profitable 1, better 1; 10
- 1) advantage, profit, excellency
- ↑ 06031 עָנָה ‘anah [aw-naw’] a primitive root AyinNunTav [possibly rather ident. with 06030 "to answer, respond, testify, speak, shout" possibly through the idea of looking down or browbeating]; v; [BDB-776a, BDB-775b] [{See TWOT on 1651 }] [{See TWOT on 1652 }] AV-afflict 50, humble 11, force 5, exercised 2, sing 2, Leannoth 1, troubled 1, weakened 1, misc 11; 84
- 1) to be occupied, be busied with
- 1a) (Qal) to be occupied, be busied with
- 1b) (Hiphil) occupying (part.) [{Ec 5:20 }]
- 2) to afflict, oppress, humble, be afflicted, be bowed down
- 2a) (Qal)
- 2a1) to be put down, become low
- 2a2) to be depressed, be downcast
- 2a3) to be afflicted
- 2a4) to stoop
- 2b) (Niphal)
- 2b1) to humble oneself, bow down
- 2b2) to be afflicted, be humbled
- 2a) (Qal)
- 1) to be occupied, be busied with
- ↑ What you do
- Matthew 7:21 "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. ... 24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:... 26 And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand:"
- Luke 6:47 "Whosoever cometh to me, and heareth my sayings, and doeth them, I will shew you to whom he is like:...49 But he that heareth, and doeth not, is like a man that without a foundation built an house upon the earth; against which the stream did beat vehemently, and immediately it fell; and the ruin of that house was great."
- Luke 7:8 "For I also am a man set under authority, having under me soldiers, and I say unto one, Go, and he goeth; and to another, Come, and he cometh; and to my servant, Do this, and he doeth [it]."
- John 3:20 "For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God."
- Titus 1:16 "They profess that they know God; but in works they deny [him], being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate."
- James 1:23 "For if any be a hearer of the word, and not a doer, he is like unto a man beholding his natural face in a glass:"
- James 2:20 "But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
- James 3:13 "Who [is] a wise man and endued with knowledge among you? let him shew out of a good conversation his works with meekness of wisdom."
- Revelation 2:2 "I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars:"
- Revelation 20:13 "And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works."
- ↑ 03664 כָּנַס kanac [kaw-nas’] a primitive root KafNunSamech ; v; [BDB-488a] [{See TWOT on 1000 }] AV-gather 5, gather together 4, heap up 1, wrap 1; 11 1) to gather, collect, wrap
- 1a) (Qal) to gather
- 1b) (Piel) to gather
- 1c) (Hithpael) to gather together, wrap oneself up
- כ ך Kaf K Crown: To Actualize Potential power from spiritual to physical realm [to cover, strength] (Numeric value: 20)
- נ ן Nun Heir to the Throne, Aramaic fish in the Mem (fish moving in flowing waters) or in the Hebrew the Nun may mean the kingdom with a double Nun suggesting spiritual insight in two realms. [fish moving... Activity life] (Numeric value: 50)
- ס Samech The Eternal Cycle The circular symbolizes the fundamental truth described in the mystery of the ten statements [ prop... Support, turn] (Numeric value: 60)
- If you translate synagogue into Hebrew you would use the words bet knesset; בית כנסת; KafNunSamechTav BeitYodTav. They add the Tav of faith to KafNunSamech preceded the word with "bet".
- ב Beit Purpose: God's Dwelling Place Below - a house or God's house here. [household, in, into] (Numeric value: 2)
- י Yod The Infinite Point of essential good. Divine spark hidden in the ט Tet. Spark of spirit. [closed hand... Deed, work, to make] (Numeric value: 10)
- ת Tav is a Seal of a Higher kingdom or realm through faith. The paradigm keter–malchut “The Crown of Sovereignty” from the Tree of Life spiritually linking worlds or realms through an unseen doorway of faith. The Aleph & Tav are the first and last letters. [door sign cross seal] (Numeric value: 400)
- 1a) (Qal) to gather