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Episode 16
"Jordan and the scholars trace Moses' journey from Numbers to the end of Deuteronomy. Despite being able to see the promised land, Moses is unable to enter it before his death, but his name becomes a symbol of Israel and God's promise to His people." Daily Wire
Worship idols
Jordan Peterson and his panel needs to rethink there understanding of Exodus.
In his summary he mentions "Worshiping idols", which goes much deeper than the modern Christian's views once you actually understand that idolatry is simply covetousness.[1]
We can ask why Cain's sacrifice was not accepted, what the Altars of Abraham and Moses were really all about?
It was not the "hope of the promise land that united the Israelites" but the nature and purpose of their altars of sacrifice which describe the system of Corban funding the social safety net of Israel which not only created the social bonds of a free society but protected the people from being snare in captivity and returning to the bondage of Egypt again entangled again in the elements of the world.
Giants and floods in the Macro
At 4:00 Jonathan talks about the structure of the story from Edon to the flood and back to Edon.
JP 6:40 sees the giants as a whole including the State, it's principles and culture.
The decent into chaos is prevented not merely because of a drive for equality but an insistence of "equality of responsibility".
The ideology of equality of outcome is an usurpation of the "equality of responsibility".
. Talks about vision is clear closeup but becomes more obscure as you take in the lands cape.
Ideology flooding into the mind of the people in the macro becomes the Giant psychosis of the masses.
Burkean platoons in the Micro
8.50 Dr James Orr speaks of this relational bond at the political and even anthropological level where your attachment to society is through "Burkean platoons" which then reaches out from there into the "landscape" of society.
Burkean parlor, the 'unending conversation' that is going on at the point in history when we are born"
The 18th-century thinker Edmund Burke has been considered a grandfather of modern conservatism from whom we get the phrase, “little platoons.”
“To be attached to the subdivision, to love the little platoon we belong to in society, is the first principle (the germ as it were) of public affections.” Edmund Burke, Reflections on the Revolution in France.
The refers to links between local communities (or platoons) and the larger state or culture.
It has been suggested that Robert Nisbet’s 1953 classic "The Quest for Community" popularized this idea among conservatives.
More recently Yuval Levin’s The Fractured Republic advocates the "little platoon" concept but will remains meaningless if we do not address the absence of the glue that binds them.
The questions not asked
David French says that “volunteer groups” are the “little platoons that make America great” and the bill of rights does "not just guarantee religious liberty but associational liberty."
He also talks about the "Law of Group Polarization" which produce "supper clusters" which define their "Overton Window" of acceptable discourse in the worldf.
He ponders as to what has narrowed that Overton window.
The answer might be summed up with the phrase "the ideology of ideologues".
- ideology, "a system of ideas and ideals, especially one which forms the basis of economic or political theory and policy."
- ideologue is, "an adherent of an ideology, especially one who is uncompromising and dogmatic."
Questions not asked
The distinction of the outcome of an ideology will hinge upon it's "elements".
The answer to two question may need to be explored: How small is the "l" in "small l-liberalism"?
And what are the "elements" of true "religious liberty and associational liberty" that will cultivate their success and prosperity?
A favorite quote of Washington.
Micah 4:4 But they shall sit every man under his vine and under his fig tree; and none shall make [them] afraid: for the mouth of the LORD of hosts hath spoken [it].
Without every man taking personal responsibility for themselves and their neighbor through the choice of charity they are not following the will of the Father. This must be done in the Micro first and not a top down social welfare through a common purse of rights.
The will of the fathers of the earth is that you sign up with them to get their dainties.
That is not the Will of God nor Christ. Because the modern Church has been blinded by unsound doctrine they say it is okay to go to benefactors who exercise authority.[2]
If people would organize themselves in congregations of tens they would establish their “little platoons.” From their they could form their "concentric circles" of Peterson and Orr that would form the State. That is what Moses was doing.
The goal of the individuals of the “little platoons” is to provide the daily ministration experienced in the Bondage of Egypt without the force, fear, and fealty. This can only be done through love and charity which will require a new man.
New kind of man
There is a long discussion 10-12
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Niche believed that a New kind of man was needed.
And of course Moses and the LORD know that and the form of government they are instituting requires that men change and is designed to produce that change if men will be born again to the responsibility of the kingdom of God.
How do you get that new man?
2 Corinthians 5:17 "Therefore if any man [be] in Christ, [he is] a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new."[3]
Ephesians 2:15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, [even] the law of commandments [contained] in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, [so] making peace;"[4]
Ephesians 4:24 "And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness."[5] 26 Be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath: 27 Neither give place to the devil. 28 Let him that stole steal no more: but rather let him labour, working with [his] hands the thing which is good, that he may have to give to him that needeth. 29 Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers. 30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption. 31 Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice: 32 And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ’s sake hath forgiven you.
Colossians 3:10 "And have put on the new [man], which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him:"[6]
Will to power
The will to power is found in the power of choice. The only true choice is the one in the garden between the Two trees.
Nitche's "Will to power" did not understand the need to the humility required in the the submission to Divine Will which is Right Reason.
Nazi, through his sister used Nitche's writings for their own purpose but the same could be said of the Bible and certainly the writings of Moses.
Life affirming ethos
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The spy's go in to the land and some lie for fear and self doubt because a lack of faith.
They still have the timid doubting minds of slaves. They cannot imagine the power of righteous liberty.
The panel is correct in seeing the "life affirming ethos" of Exodus but do not address the biting nature of modern legal charity which feeds and breeds the old man and nature born in the bondage of Egypt when they were dependent upon the social safety net of Egypt's temples.
To learn what life affirming is really all about we must affirm the life of others in the daily ministration of sacrifice of self by giving in fervent charity.
Fringe
Jordan sees the fringes as "tropes playing out in something more concrete" but it is only a outward sign and metaphor like the token of a wedding band or less.
After a long discussion of the need for the "fringes", those outside the camp or on the edges like Caleb who demonstrate real faith the panel talks about the life affirming quality of Exodus and Christianity.
If the panel grasped the fact that all the sacrifices from the firstfriuts and burnt offering to the trespass offerings and sin offerings were not rituals of conflagration and destruction but that in truth they were the process of the laying down your life for your fellowman in a social safety net of a daily ministration in an expression of love by individual charitable choices through the practice of pure religion instead of the covetous practices of men who exercise authority which historically have been found among the city-states of Cain, Nimrod, the Dove Goddess of Sumer and the flesh pots of the Pharaoh of Egypt and eventually appear at the time of Christ within the prefect of Rome with the free bread for the masses at the expense of others through the civil law which established the world of men up unto our modern times with the rise of socialism which leads to communism as we see with FDR, LBJ, and The Great Reset then the panel might see the solution for all the problems of the world today.
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Numbers 15:37 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, 38 Speak unto the children of Israel, and bid them that they make them fringes in the borders of their garments throughout their generations, and that they put upon the fringe of the borders a ribband of blue: 39 And it shall be unto you for a fringe, that ye may look upon it, and remember all the commandments of the LORD, and do them; and that ye seek not after your own heart and your own eyes, after which ye use to go a whoring: 40 That ye may remember, and do all my commandments, and be holy unto your God. 41 I [am] the LORD your God, which brought you out of the land of Egypt, to be your God: I [am] the LORD your God.
royal blue
Korah
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47 you cannot just self proclaim authority. The Levites belonged to God and they had authority over what was freely given.
They could not. Force the offering of the people.
They were the individual stones of a living altar. They could not be hewn. But they could not go up by step because the were naked and required the people to provide for their breeches.
52 JP talks about the discretion of mate selection but the people are engaged in the selection of who they will contribute their sacrifices to.
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There is rank and hierarchy but the criteria is will to service because that is where the real power is.
100 JP talks about the remedy for narcissism Voluntarism with no dathans or strang fire.
Numbers 16:1 ¶ Now Korah, the son of Izhar, the son of Kohath, the son of Levi, and Dathan and Abiram, the sons of Eliab, and On, the son of Peleth, sons of Reuben, took [men]: 2 And they rose up before Moses, with certain of the children of Israel, two hundred and fifty princes of the assembly, famous in the congregation, men of renown:
3 And they gathered themselves together against Moses and against Aaron, and said unto them, [Ye take] too much upon you, seeing all the congregation [are] holy, every one of them, and the LORD [is] among them: wherefore then lift ye up yourselves above the congregation of the LORD?
4 And when Moses heard [it], he fell upon his face:
5 And he spake unto Korah and unto all his company, saying, Even to morrow the LORD will shew who [are] his, and [who is] holy; and will cause [him] to come near unto him: even [him] whom he hath chosen will he cause to come near unto him.
6 This do; Take you censers, Korah, and all his company;
7 And put fire therein, and put incense in them before the LORD to morrow: and it shall be [that] the man whom the LORD doth choose, he [shall be] holy: [ye take] too much upon you, ye sons of Levi.
8 And Moses said unto Korah, Hear, I pray you, ye sons of Levi:
9 [Seemeth it but] a small thing unto you, that the God of Israel hath separated you from the congregation of Israel, to bring you near to himself to do the service of the tabernacle of the LORD, and to stand before the congregation to minister unto them?
10 And he hath brought thee near [to him], and all thy brethren the sons of Levi with thee: and seek ye the priesthood also?
11 For which cause [both] thou and all thy company [are] gathered together against the LORD: and what [is] Aaron, that ye murmur against him?
12 ¶ And Moses sent to call Dathan and Abiram, the sons of Eliab: which said, We will not come up:
13 [Is it] a small thing that thou hast brought us up out of a land that floweth with milk and honey, to kill us in the wilderness, except thou make thyself altogether a prince over us?
14 Moreover thou hast not brought us into a land that floweth with milk and honey, or given us inheritance of fields and vineyards: wilt thou put out the eyes of these men? we will not come up.
15 And Moses was very wroth, and said unto the LORD, Respect not thou their offering: I have not taken one ass from them, neither have I hurt one of them.
16 And Moses said unto Korah, Be thou and all thy company before the LORD, thou, and they, and Aaron, to morrow:
17 And take every man his censer, and put incense in them, and bring ye before the LORD every man his censer, two hundred and fifty censers; thou also, and Aaron, each [of you] his censer.
18 And they took every man his censer, and put fire in them, and laid incense thereon, and stood in the door of the tabernacle of the congregation with Moses and Aaron.
19 And Korah gathered all the congregation against them unto the door of the tabernacle of the congregation: and the glory of the LORD appeared unto all the congregation.
20 And the LORD spake unto Moses and unto Aaron, saying,
21 Separate yourselves from among this congregation, that I may consume them in a moment.
22 And they fell upon their faces, and said, O God, the God of the spirits of all flesh, shall one man sin, and wilt thou be wroth with all the congregation?
23 ¶ And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
24 Speak unto the congregation, saying, Get you up from about the tabernacle of Korah, Dathan, and Abiram.
25 And Moses rose up and went unto Dathan and Abiram; and the elders of Israel followed him.
26 And he spake unto the congregation, saying, Depart, I pray you, from the tents of these wicked men, and touch nothing of theirs, lest ye be consumed in all their sins.
27 So they gat up from the tabernacle of Korah, Dathan, and Abiram, on every side: and Dathan and Abiram came out, and stood in the door of their tents, and their wives, and their sons, and their little children.
28 And Moses said, Hereby ye shall know that the LORD hath sent me to do all these works; for [I have] not [done them] of mine own mind.
29 If these men die the common death of all men, or if they be visited after the visitation of all men; [then] the LORD hath not sent me.
30 But if the LORD make a new thing, and the earth open her mouth, and swallow them up, with all that [appertain] unto them, and they go down quick into the pit; then ye shall understand that these men have provoked the LORD.
31 And it came to pass, as he had made an end of speaking all these words, that the ground clave asunder that [was] under them:
32 And the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed them up, and their houses, and all the men that [appertained] unto Korah, and all [their] goods.
33 They, and all that [appertained] to them, went down alive into the pit, and the earth closed upon them: and they perished from among the congregation.
34 And all Israel that [were] round about them fled at the cry of them: for they said, Lest the earth swallow us up [also].
35 ¶ And there came out a fire from the LORD, and consumed the two hundred and fifty men that offered incense.
Striking the rock
105 Numbers 20
fiery serpent
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Numbers 21:4 ¶ "And they journeyed from mount Hor by the way of the Red sea, to compass the land of Edom: and the soul of the people was much discouraged because of the way..." Symbolic, practical, unique knowledge, but also we must face our fear which may include facing the truth.
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"Having people gaze upon upon what frightens them fortifies them." Jordan Peterson
Protecting the triggered makes the people weaker.
Just like legal charity will degenerate the masses.
Trauma is only overcome by facing that which traumatized you.
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Deuteronomy which is quoted by Jesus.
The fourth part is about the Song of Moses.
Deuteronomy 30:11 "For this commandment which I command thee this day, it [is] not hidden from thee, neither [is] it far off. Deuteronomy 30:17 But if thine heart turn away, so that thou wilt not hear, but shalt be drawn away, and worship other gods, and serve them;
Deuteronomy 34:1 ¶ "And Moses went up from the plains of Moab unto the mountain of Nebo, to the top of Pisgah, that [is] over against Jericho. And the LORD shewed him all the land of Gilead, unto Dan,..."
"Congratulations men! We made it out of Israel." Jordan Peterson
- ↑ Covetousness is idolatry
- Colossians 3:5 "Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry: 6 For which things’ sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience:"
- Ephesians 5:5 "For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God."
- 1 Corinthians 5:10 "Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world. 11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat."
- For it is written that the tables of dainties provided by rulers of the world are a snare because they cause the masses to bite one another through government systems of legal charity which are covetous practices which are a form of fornication or adultery where the people are devoured as merchandise, curse children and are "entangled again in the yoke of bondage" with the aid of the false religion of the whore who rides the beast.
- ↑ Not exercise authority
- Matthew 20:25 "But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Ye know that the princes of the Gentiles exercise dominion over them, and they that are great exercise authority upon them. But it shall not be so among you:..."
- Mark 10:42 "But Jesus called them to him, and saith unto them, Ye know that they which are accounted to rule over the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and their great ones exercise authority upon them. But so shall it not be among you:..."
- Luke 22:25 "And he said unto them, The kings of the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and they that exercise authority upon them are called benefactors. But ye [shall] not [be] so:..."
- ↑ 2 Corinthians 5:12 ¶ For we commend not ourselves again unto you, but give you occasion to glory on our behalf, that ye may have somewhat to [answer] them which glory in appearance, and not in heart. 13 For whether we be beside ourselves, [it is] to God: or whether we be sober, [it is] for your cause. 14 For the love of Christ constraineth us; because we thus judge, that if one died for all, then were all dead: 15 And [that] he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again. 16 ¶ Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we [him] no more. 17 Therefore if any man [be] in Christ, [he is] a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new. 18 And all things [are] of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation; 19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation. 20 Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech [you] by us: we pray [you] in Christ’s stead, be ye reconciled to God. 21 For he hath made him [to be] sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.
- ↑ 11 ¶ Wherefore remember, that ye [being] in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands; 12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world: 13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ. 14 ¶ For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition [between us]; 15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, [even] the law of commandments [contained] in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, [so] making peace; 16 And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby: 17 And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh. 18 For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father. 19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God; 20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner [stone]; 21 In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord: 22 In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.
- ↑ Ephesians 4:17 ¶ This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that ye henceforth walk not as other Gentiles walk, in the vanity of their mind, 18 Having the understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart: 19 Who being past feeling have given themselves over unto lasciviousness, to work all uncleanness with greediness. 20 But ye have not so learned Christ; 21 If so be that ye have heard him, and have been taught by him, as the truth is in Jesus: 22 That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts; 23 And be renewed in the spirit of your mind; 24 And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness. 25 Wherefore putting away lying, speak every man truth with his neighbour: for we are members one of another.
- ↑ Colossians 35 ¶ Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry: 6 For which things’ sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience: 7 In the which ye also walked some time, when ye lived in them. 8 ¶ But now ye also put off all these; anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy communication out of your mouth. 9 Lie not one to another, seeing that ye have put off the old man with his deeds; 10 And have put on the new [man], which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him: 11 Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond [nor] free: but Christ [is] all, and in all. 12 ¶ Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering; 13 Forbearing one another, and forgiving one another, if any man have a quarrel against any: even as Christ forgave you, so also [do] ye. 14 And above all these things [put on] charity, which is the bond of perfectness.