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Peine forte et dure (Law French for "hard and forceful punishment") was a method of torture formerly used in the common law legal system, in which a defendant who refused to plead ("stood mute") would be subjected to having heavier and heavier stones placed upon his or her chest until a plea was entered, or they died.
''Peine forte et dure'' (Law French for "hard and forceful punishment") was a method of torture formerly used in the common law legal system, in which a defendant who refused to plead ("stood mute") would be subjected to having heavier and heavier stones placed upon his or her chest until a plea was entered, or they died.[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peine_forte_et_dure]
 
The common law courts considered themselves to lack jurisdiction over a defendant until he had voluntarily submitted to it by entering a plea seeking judgment from the court.
 
Such systems only works amongst people who are tending daily to the [[ Weightier matters]] not only for themselves but equally for their neighbor.
 
Because people rejected that natural and righteous responsibility they turned to the kings courts more and more where they would be tried in equity or under the law of the sea as observed by the English jurist Henry de Bracton.
 
Men and women died under this practice by being pressed with anywhere from 400 to 700 pounds. see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peine_forte_et_dure
 
Where did such a practice come and from what did it derive?
 
In ancient Israel there was something called [[Stoning|stoning]]. Today we are led to believe this had to do with throwing rocks at people because that is what became the practice as the principle was unmoored from its original meaning.
 
 
In the Bible we see Matthew 18:15 "Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother.  But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established."
 
This is actually the beginning of the principle of [[Stoning|stoning]]. In ancient Israel as well as the early church ministers attended to the daily ministration of the people by free will offerings or charity. These ministers were living [[Stones|stones]] of a living [[Altars|altar]].
 
If more and more of the living [[Stones|stones]] of your social altars of protection and justice turned their back on you you would be isolated from society and no one would come to your aid. This threat of  being ostracized by society and loosing the benefits of societies protection ''weighed heavily'' upon those who would not deal justly.
 
Today you can abandon and betray family and neighbor and the systems of [[Daily_ministration]] operated by [[Benefactors]] who [[Exercise authority]]through a [[Welfare]] system that use to be called [[Public religion]]. in ancient Israel they used [[Freewill offerings]] to fund their systems of welfare like the early [[Church]] used charity. Here we find the cause of the [[Christian conflict]].
 
 
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Peine forte et dure

Peine forte et dure (Law French for "hard and forceful punishment") was a method of torture formerly used in the common law legal system, in which a defendant who refused to plead ("stood mute") would be subjected to having heavier and heavier stones placed upon his or her chest until a plea was entered, or they died.[1]

The common law courts considered themselves to lack jurisdiction over a defendant until he had voluntarily submitted to it by entering a plea seeking judgment from the court.

Such systems only works amongst people who are tending daily to the Weightier matters not only for themselves but equally for their neighbor.

Because people rejected that natural and righteous responsibility they turned to the kings courts more and more where they would be tried in equity or under the law of the sea as observed by the English jurist Henry de Bracton.

Men and women died under this practice by being pressed with anywhere from 400 to 700 pounds. see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peine_forte_et_dure

Where did such a practice come and from what did it derive?

In ancient Israel there was something called stoning. Today we are led to believe this had to do with throwing rocks at people because that is what became the practice as the principle was unmoored from its original meaning.


In the Bible we see Matthew 18:15 "Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother. But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established."

This is actually the beginning of the principle of stoning. In ancient Israel as well as the early church ministers attended to the daily ministration of the people by free will offerings or charity. These ministers were living stones of a living altar.

If more and more of the living stones of your social altars of protection and justice turned their back on you you would be isolated from society and no one would come to your aid. This threat of being ostracized by society and loosing the benefits of societies protection weighed heavily upon those who would not deal justly.

Today you can abandon and betray family and neighbor and the systems of Daily_ministration operated by Benefactors who Exercise authoritythrough a Welfare system that use to be called Public religion. in ancient Israel they used Freewill offerings to fund their systems of welfare like the early Church used charity. Here we find the cause of the Christian conflict.


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