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| What is the differences between the [[Father]] of [[Jesus]] as the [[Son of God]] and [[Savior]] of [[Christians]] the [[Father]] of [[Caesar]] as the [[Son of God]] and [[Savior]] of [[Rome]] And was their [[conflict]].  
| What is the differences between the [[Father]] of [[Jesus]] as the [[Son of God]] and [[Savior]] of [[Christians]] the [[Father]] of [[Caesar]] as the [[Son of God]] and [[Savior]] of [[Rome]] And was their [[conflict]].  
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| At the core of that [[conflict]] was [[social welfare]] systems based on [[love]], [[charity]], and [[hope]] and another system of the [[welfare state]] that functions through [[force]] of men who [[exercise authority]] that impose the contributions through [[fear]] and [[fealty]].
| At the core of that [[conflict]] was [[social welfare]] systems based on [[love]]<Ref name="agape">{{26}}</Ref>, [[charity]], and [[hope]] and another system of the [[welfare state]] that functions through [[force]] of men who [[exercise authority]] that impose the contributions through [[fear]] and [[fealty]].
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|Only a system that functions by voluntary [[fervent charity]] through the individual choice of [[love]] will produce [[fruit]] while systems of [[legal charity]] through [[force]]d contributions makes the [[Corban|word of God to none effect]].
|Only a system that functions by voluntary [[fervent charity]] through the individual choice of [[love]] will produce [[fruit]] while systems of [[legal charity]] through [[force]]d contributions makes the [[Corban|word of God to none effect]].
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8  Herein is my [[Father]] glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my [[disciple]]s.
8  Herein is my [[Father]] glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my [[disciple]]s.


9 ¶  As the [[Father]] hath [[love]]d me, so have I loved you: continue ye in my [[love]].
9 ¶  As the [[Father]] hath [[love]]d me, so have I loved you: continue ye in my [[love]].<Ref name="agape">{{26}}</Ref>
10  If ye [[keep my commandments]], ye shall [[abide]] in my [[love]]; even as I have kept my Father’s commandments, and [[abide]] in his love.
10  If ye [[keep my commandments]], ye shall [[abide]] in my [[love]]; even as I have kept my Father’s commandments, and [[abide]] in his love.
11  These things have I spoken unto you, that my joy might remain in you, and that your joy might be full.
11  These things have I spoken unto you, that my joy might remain in you, and that your joy might be full.

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Comments for John 15
What is the differences between the Father of Jesus as the Son of God and Savior of Christians the Father of Caesar as the Son of God and Savior of Rome And was their conflict.
At the core of that conflict was social welfare systems based on love[1], charity, and hope and another system of the welfare state that functions through force of men who exercise authority that impose the contributions through fear and fealty.
Only a system that functions by voluntary fervent charity through the individual choice of love will produce fruit while systems of legal charity through forced contributions makes the word of God to none effect.
An appetite of for the dainties of rulers through the covetous practices of Benefactors who exercising authority degenerated the masses and debilitated the fruit bearing capacity of society because it not only violated the Ten Commandments but was the antitheses of abiding in His love.
Christ commanded that His ministers require the people gather in networked assemblies of symposium.to care for one another through charity alone which is defining what love truly is.
The tables of the world are not only a snare but will make the people merchandise and curse children, return them to the [bondage of Egypt]].
Questions
Are you coveting your neighbors' goods through rulers?
Are you practicing Pure Religion?
Where is your daily ministration?
Is it based on force or love?


1 ¶ I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman. 2 Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away:[2] and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit. 3 Now ye are clean through the word[3] which I have spoken unto you. 4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me. 5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing. 6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned. 7 If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you. 8 Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples.

9 ¶ As the Father hath loved me, so have I loved you: continue ye in my love.[1] 10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father’s commandments, and abide in his love. 11 These things have I spoken unto you, that my joy might remain in you, and that your joy might be full. 12 This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you. 13 Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends. 14 Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you. 15 Henceforth I call you not servants; for the servant knoweth not what his lord doeth: but I have called you friends; for all things that I have heard of my Father I have made known unto you. 16 Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you. 17 These things I command you, that ye love one another.

18 ¶ If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you. 19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you. 20 Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also. 21 But all these things will they do unto you for my name’s sake 22 If I had not come and spoken unto them, they had not had sin: but now they have no cloke for their sin. 23 He that hateth me hateth my Father also. 24 If I had not done among them the works which none other man did, they had not had sin: but now have they both seen and hated both me and my Father. 25 But this cometh to pass, that the word might be fulfilled that is written in their law, They hated me without a cause.

26 ¶ But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me: 27 And ye also shall bear witness, because ye have been with me from the beginning.


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  1. ↑ 1.0 1.1 26 ~ἀγάπη~ agape \@ag-ah’-pay\@ from 25; n f AV-love 86, charity 27, dear 1, charitably+ 2596 1, feast of charity 1; 116
    1) {Singular} brotherly love, affection, good will, love, benevolence {#Joh 15:13 Ro 13:10 1Jo 4:18}
    1a) Of the love of men to men; esp. Christians towards Christians which is enjoined and prompted by their religion, whether the love be viewed as in the soul or expressed {#Mt 14:12 1Co 13:1-4,8 14:1 2Co 2:4 Ga 5:6 Phm 5,7 1Ti 1:5 Heb 6:10 10:24 1Jo 4:7 Re 2:4,19} &c
    1b) Of the love of men towards God {#Lu 11:42 Joh 5:42 1Jo 2:15 3:17 4:12 5:3}
    1c) Of the love of God towards man {#Ro 5:8 8:39 2Co 13:14}
    1d) Of the love of God towards Christ {#Joh 15:10 17:26}
    1e) Of the love of Christ towards men {#Joh 15:8-13 2Co 5:14 Ro 8:35 Eph 3:19}
    2) {plural} love feasts expressing and fostering mutual love which used to be held by Christians before the celebration of the Lord’s supper, and at which the poorer Christians mingled with the wealthier and partook in common with the rest of the food provided at the expense of the wealthy. {#Jude 12 2Pe 2:13 Ac 2:42,46 1Co 11:17-34}
    • Syn.: ~φιλία~ 5373 ~ἀγάπη~, signifying properly (v. s. ~αγαραω~ 25) love which chooses its object, is taken from the LXX, where its connotation is more general, into the NT, and there used exclusively to express that spiritual bond of love between God and man and between man and man, in Christ which is characteristic of Christianity. It is thus distinct from ~φιλία~, \@friendship\@ (#Jas 4:4 only), ~στοργη~, \@natural affection\@ (in the NT only in its compounds, v. s. ~ἄστοργος~ 794) and ~ερως~ \@sexual love,\@ which is not used in the NT, in its place being taken by ~επιηυμια~ 1939.
  2. ↑ Matthew 21:43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.
  3. ↑ 3056 ~λόγος~ logos \@log’-os\@ from 3004; n m AV-word 218, saying 50, account 8, speech 8, Word (Christ) 7, thing 5, not tr 2, misc 32; 330
    1) of speech
    1a) a word, uttered by a living voice, embodies a conception or idea
    2) its use as respect to the MIND alone
    3) In John, denotes the essential Word of God, Jesus Christ, the personal wisdom and power in union with God, his minister in creation and government of the universe, the cause of all the world’s life both physical and ethical, which for the procurement of man’s salvation put on human nature in the person of Jesus the Messiah, the second person in the Godhead, and shone forth conspicuously from His words and deeds.
    • 4487 ρημα rhema can mean word or saying.
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