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Everyone is not happy in Denmark. This picture is from OccupyDemocrats and is another *perfect utopia* posters floating around the internet and on Facebook that paints a rosy picture without the thorns of the Nordic model. But is it the whole story or part of a strong delusion?

Is Denmark really the happiest country in the world?

Systems produce results. According to their natural patterns comprehensive systems will produce predictable results.

No pain no gain is a rule about exercise of your body. Society is a body too. If virtue is the “character muscle” of the individual Social Virtues can be described as the sinew of society.

There is no such thing as a free lunch unless it is provided by charity. Socialism is not Charity.

It is always good to look for the other side of the story when someone touts their pet utopia.

Denmark schools

"The real destroyer of the liberties of the people is he who spreads among them bounties, donations and benefits." -- by Plutarch.

And since the government borrows from your future with every gift you and your children go deeper and deeper into debt...

There was another photo with a similar message floating around about Denmark.

Now Denmark is more fiscally responsible than Norway and even the United States whose debt for every new born child starts at $59,000 dollars at birth and will probably be far higher when they start working and paying their share of the interest.

Denmark's debt for new born per citizen starts at 28,778 which is only 59.8% of the GDP. This is partly because of the fact that one of their biggest industries is shipping and they charge lots for bringing things in and out of the country, which makes for very high consumer taxes. As an example they are third in the world for the cost of an I phone at almost a $1000 dollars per phone.

Everything else is expensive too. Food is expensive, shopping is expensive, drinking is expensive and affordable rent or property is almost impossible to find. With all that Denmark individual income tax is really high for a normal person it starts at about 50%.

Denmark’s historically high suicide rate has recently dropped which has been attributed to the increase in a widespread use of antidepressants which show Denmark with the highest rate of antidepressant use in their *brave new world* where their "happiness" comes from drugging the population and where euthanasia and assisted suicide are legal.

So the extra money you get in Denmark is just a subsidy to what the real cost of eating and living will be and it is not really free because the government just forces your neighbor to pay it.

If the Danish student actually knew the truth they would understand that they were born in debt, will work all their life paying off debt and die in debt leaving nothing but debt and perpetual bondage of debt for their own children.

Those who are willing to hear the whole truth give us hope. Those who do not want to hear the whole truth and provide for it condemn themselves.

And if they live in a Democracy where they are the majority they condemn the whole nation to systems of perpetual debt and control and "degenerate" the culture of their society until the "find once more a master and monarch" as Polybius warned.

You will find similar patterns throughout Norway, Sweden, Finland, and Denmark.

In early America most schools were free including Harvard if you could not afford it. But this was because the people supported it with charity not forced taxes nor the burdening of society through student loans. In fact all our welfare was the result of charity. Charity and earning your way is what made America great. That is what the definition of Religion use to be.

The idea that something is free because the government gives it to you is the definition of insane. This is one of the main causes of the social ills of today and why Christ and Paul along with all the prophets make charity which is love one of the most important element of the Gospel of the Kingdom along with forgiveness.

Do not expect the powers of the world to forgive your debt or your children's debt. Forcing your neighbor through the power of government to pay for benefits you want is covetous. And applying to such Benefactors who exercise authority one over the other will make human resources of us all.

People should understand that public education is welfare and there are two types of welfare. One is by charity which strengthens society including the poor and the other is by force through Covetous Practices which weakens society, especially the poor, and results in tyranny and abuse.

Some of the claims are that a $50.00 luxury item in the United States would cost you $155.00 in Denmark because of the 210% luxury tax. That is three times the cost. Gas is over $9 a gallon. At those prices minimum wage of 20 dollars is equal to less than $7. Denmark has other very high tax rates too. The average tax payed by a Dane in a year is 57.5% That means that they basically work for FREE 201 days of the year. And then there is the general sales tax of 25%!

A PragerU video What is democratic socialism? What makes it different than regular socialism? Has it been tried? Could it work in the United States? Comedian and political commentator Steven Crowder, host of Louder With Crowder, explains. Follow Steven Crowder! http://louderwithcrowder.com/ ~4:25 min

So you have your answer to the question asked in the titled article "Why is poverty rising in a country with a welfare system that purports to ensure that “all citizens have equal rights to social security”?" from the article by Danes Alexandra Lu, Lisa Sig Olesen.

We have a good friend from Denmark and in no way am I putting down the Danish people but honesty is the best policy when looking for the truth. In fact without objective honesty you cannot find the truth. Yoou must always look for the rest of the story.

Read "Why I Could Never Move (Back) to Denmark" . But if you really want to get down on Denmark you can read the comments at "Forum Post: Denmark Sucks!! Happiest Nation..? My A**!"[1]

Testimony at the website claims that "Denmark is populated by a racist,self-egoistic, arrogant people"

Alcohol is a big problem with Denmark ranking 11th in consumption. Only 3% of the country does not drink.

Denmark is a country with social and economic problems that may be the result of a list of practices that some would have you think solves problems. Like the Free education poster about free schooling in Norway.

Nordic model

"Modern welfare states include the Nordic countries, such as Iceland, Sweden, Norway, Denmark, and Finland which employ a system known as the Nordic model. Esping-Andersen classified the most developed welfare state systems into three categories; Social Democratic, Conservative, and Liberal."

The socialist economists John Roemer and Pranab Bardhan criticize Nordic-style social democracy for its questionable effectiveness in promoting relative egalitarianism as well as its sustainability.

The Nordic social democracy requires a strong labor movement to sustain the heavy redistribution required. Roemer and Bardham argue that the sustainability of social democracy is limited and that establishing a market socialist economy by changing enterprise ownership would be more effective than social democratic redistribution at promoting egalitarian outcomes, particularly in countries with weak labor movements.

Although there are significant differences among the Nordic countries. Some common traits include support for a "universalist" welfare state aimed specifically at enhancing individual autonomy and promoting social mobility; a corporatist system involving a tripartite arrangement where representatives of labor and employers negotiate wages and labor market policy mediated by the government; and a commitment to widespread private ownership, free markets and free trade.

These traits prolong the sustainability of economic systems but at what cost in human development. Socialism goes against the prime moving agent of evolution yet most socialists believe in evolution.

According to sociologist Lane Kenworthy, in the context of the Nordic model "social democracy" refers to a set of policies for promoting economic security and opportunity within the framework of capitalism rather than a replacement for capitalism.

Experiment

Many countries are going through social experiment period but a thorough study of both history and the nature of mankind brings the wisdom of a collective economy into question.

The Nordic Models are not socialism but a blend of capitalism, socialism, and democracy. There is no doubt that each of these countries has successes and failures. The question is which part of this blend is attributing to their problems. They are each an experiment within a somewhat homogeneous people. Ultimately the collectively controlled economy is an infringement upon individual rights and is the "One purse" approach that brings eventual social decay because it deprives the individual of both the responsibilities and rights that produces individual growth.

The effort required by individuals to care for the needy of their society through voluntary contributions and sharing binds the collective nature of society by love, honor, and appreciation rather than a social contract dependent upon force. The social contract that centralizes power and exercises authority within a broad society may and eventually does lead to corruption and abuse of that authority and power.

Each nation

Sweden, Denmark, and Finland will show the debilitating effects of socialism and socialist policies on what was once some of the virtuous societies of Europe. Socialism brings about a slow but natural decay of the moral fabric that makes a society strong and thriving.

"Why is poverty rising in a country with a welfare system that purports to ensure that “all citizens have equal rights to social security?" from the article by Danes Alexandra Lu, Lisa Sig Olesen.

A welfare state is a concept of government in which the state plays a key role in the protection and promotion of the economic and social well-being of its citizens. It is based on the principles of equality of opportunity, equitable distribution of wealth, and public responsibility for those unable to avail themselves of the minimal provisions for a good life. The general term may cover a variety of forms of economic and social organization. The sociologist T.H. Marshall identified the welfare state as a distinctive combination of democracy, welfare, and capitalism."

Published on Oct 10, 2013

Marvin Olasky, editor of World Magazine, delivers a speech for the Ashbrook Center's Major Issues Lecture Series on April 30, 1996. His book "The Tragedy of American Compassion" and the Roots of the Welfare State. ~51:03 min

"The welfare state involves a transfer of funds from the state, to the services provided (e.g. healthcare, education) as well as directly to individuals ("benefits"). It is funded through redistributionist taxation and is often referred to as a type of "mixed economy." Such taxation usually includes a larger income tax for people with higher incomes, called a progressive tax. This helps to reduce the income gap between the rich and poor."

Welfare

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 No pain no gain is a rule about exercise of your body. Society is a body too.  If virtue is the “character muscle” of the individual [[Social Virtues]]  can be described as the sinew of society.
-'''There is no such thing as a free lunch''' unless it is provided by [[charity|charity]].
+'''There is no such thing as a free lunch''' unless it is provided by [[charity|charity]]. [[Socialism]] is not Charity.
 It is always good to look for the other side of the story when someone touts their pet utopia.
-Read "Why I Could Never Move (Back) to Denmark" . But if you really want to get down on Denmark you can read the comments at "Forum Post: Denmark Sucks!! Happiest Nation..? My A**!"[http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=31317]
-Testimony at the website claims that "Denmark is populated by a racist,self-egoistic, arrogant people"
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 So you have your answer to the question asked in the titled article "Why is poverty rising in a country with a welfare system that purports to ensure that “all citizens have equal rights to social security”?" from the article by Danes Alexandra Lu, Lisa Sig Olesen.
-We have a good friend from Denmark and in no way am I putting down the Danish people but honesty is the best policy when looking for the truth. In fact without objective honesty you cannot find the truth.
+We have a good friend from Denmark and in no way am I putting down the Danish people but honesty is the best policy when looking for the truth. In fact without objective honesty you cannot find the truth. Yoou must always look for the rest of the story.
+Read "Why I Could Never Move (Back) to Denmark" . But if you really want to get down on Denmark you can read the comments at "Forum Post: Denmark Sucks!! Happiest Nation..? My A**!"[http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=31317]
+Testimony at the website claims that "Denmark is populated by a racist,self-egoistic, arrogant people"
 Alcohol is a big problem with Denmark ranking 11th in consumption. Only 3% of the country does not drink.

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