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== Personal relationship with Jesus ==
== Personal relationship with Jesus ==


Do you have a ''personal relationship with Jesus''?
Do you have a ''personal relationship with [[Jesus]]''?


This is a question often asked by [[modern Christians]] who think they have just such a relationship and they religiously clink to that belief that their relationship is genuine.
This is a question often asked by [[modern Christians]] who think they have just such a relationship and they religiously clink to that belief that their relationship is genuine.
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This sweet sounding phrase, like [[Born again]], has a number of elements and ideas that we may need to be properly define in order to answer the question truthfully:
This sweet sounding phrase, like [[Born again]], has a number of elements and ideas that we may need to be properly define in order to answer the question truthfully:


: '''Personal'''.
: '''Personal'''. Of or relating to a particular person; while the word Person is applied to men, women and children.
: '''Relationship'''. Synonyms include a connection or interconnection, association or interdependence, an affair or amorous entanglement or even a flirtation.
: '''Relationship'''. Synonyms include a connection or interconnection, association or interdependence, an affair or amorous entanglement or even a flirtation.
 
: As a term it has been defined as "the way in which two or more people or groups regard and behave toward each other."
It has been defined as "the way in which two or more people or groups regard and behave toward each other."
: '''Jesus''' is the most important element of this commonly recited phrase or claim. But their are many images of Jesus created in peoples mind that may be far from the [[Real Jesus|real Jesus]].


Many people say they love Jesus but Jesus said there will people who say that but are actually [[Iniquity|workers of iniquity]].<Ref name="workiniquity">{{workiniquity}}</Ref>
Many people say they love Jesus but Jesus said there will people who say that but are actually [[Iniquity|workers of iniquity]].<Ref name="workiniquity">{{workiniquity}}</Ref>
: '''Jesus'''


What is the psychology behind a ''personal relationship with Jesus''?
What is the psychology behind a ''personal relationship with Jesus''?
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The profession of a personal relationship often involves numerous ideas and concepts that upon examination can clarify the truth of such a claim.
The profession of a personal relationship often involves numerous ideas and concepts that upon examination can clarify the truth of such a claim.
 
 
1. '''Trusting''' Jesus as the LORD over your life on a daily basis and living in a way that is defined by him. 
1. '''Trusting''' Jesus as the LORD over your life on a daily basis and living in a way that is defined by him. 
 
 
2. '''Communicating''' with Jesus can be real or part of a delusion with Jesus as an imaginary friend.
2. '''Communicating''' with Jesus can be real or part of a delusion with Jesus as an imaginary friend.
 
 
3. '''[[Prayer]]''' as a practice may be a continuous recognition of a superior source beyond ourselves because it may suggest a subordinate position. But it also can become a part of a delussion that "our God" is superior and therefore we are superior. This may appear as a holler than thou attitude.
3. '''[[Prayer]]''' as a practice may be a continuous recognition of a superior source beyond ourselves because it may suggest a subordinate position. But it also can become a part of a delussion that "our God" is superior and therefore we are superior. This may appear as a holler than thou attitude.
 
 
4. '''Service''' is serving God and others. This brings religious service or worship service into the conversation. Religion has previously been defined as [....]
4. '''Service''' is serving God and others. This brings religious service or worship service into the conversation. Religion has previously been defined as [....]
 
 
5. '''[[Repentance]]''' is  commonly listed as an element of that personal relationship but has also been mistakenly been identified as being sorry for bad action as we see in the phrase, "Repenting of sins and asking Jesus to forgive."
5. '''[[Repentance]]''' is  commonly listed as an element of that personal relationship but has also been mistakenly been identified as being sorry for bad action as we see in the phrase, "Repenting of sins and asking Jesus to forgive."


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: [[Luke 12]]:31  But rather seek ye the [[kingdom of God]]; and all these things shall be added unto you.</Ref>
: [[Luke 12]]:31  But rather seek ye the [[kingdom of God]]; and all these things shall be added unto you.</Ref>


{{real Jesus}}
=== Not doers ===


People who are not [[doers]] of the word may not be [[believer]]s in the real [[Jesus]].
People who are not [[doers]] of the word may not be [[believer]]s in the real [[Jesus]].
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How do we know that we are not one of those "many"?<Ref>Matthew 7:22  Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
How do we know that we are not one of those "many"?<Ref>Matthew 7:22  Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
Matthew 24:5  For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.  And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that [[workers of iniquity|work iniquity]]. 24  Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and [[doeth]] them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:</Ref>
: Matthew 24:5  For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.  And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that [[workers of iniquity|work iniquity]]... 24  Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and [[doeth]] them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:</Ref>


People might be [[deceived]] because of unrighteous practices and lack of ''love for the truth''.<Ref>[[2 Thessalonians 2]]:10  And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. </Ref>
People might be [[deceived]] because of unrighteous practices and lack of ''love for the truth''.<Ref>[[2 Thessalonians 2]]:10  And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. </Ref>
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The [[Modern Christians|modern Christian]] is often not doing what Christ told us to be doing. They are doing the very things that Christ condemned the [[Pharisees]] for doing.
The [[Modern Christians|modern Christian]] is often not doing what Christ told us to be doing. They are doing the very things that Christ condemned the [[Pharisees]] for doing.
{{Early Christian checklist}}
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=== Jesus explained ===
[[File:Jesusteach.jpg|right|300px|thumb|To think like [[Christ]] you may need to change the way [[Critical thinking|you think]]. We are [[warnings|warned]] about a [[strong delusion]] that will deceive ''many''. [[Jesus]] came to take the [[Kingdom of God|kingdom]] from those who were [[teach]]ing something different from [[Moses]] and [[appoint]]ed it to the [[Apostles]] so that they would bear [[fruit]] and the [[world]] might be [[saved]] through [[repent]]ance.]]
* He said their [[Corban]] made the word of God to none effect.
* He told them to call no man [[Father|father]] upon the earth.
* He told them to attend to the [[Weightier matters]].
Yet, most [[Modern Christians]] cannot even tell you what [[Corban]] is nor how it causes the word of God to be of no effect.
They cannot tell you who the [[Fathers]] of the earth were or are.
Neither do they know nor can tell you of Christ's checklist as to what the [[Weightier matters]] were and are.
Many of our [[Modern Christians]] not only do not have their eyes on the real Jesus, they actually do not want to even hear what He said nor [[Keep the Commandments|keep His commandments]] even though He said that is the way to [[Eternal life]].
These [[Modern Christians]] often pray to the [[Fathers]] of the earth and seek the benefits of the [[Benefactors]] who exercise authority one over the other. This is directly contrary to the [[Doctrines of Jesus]].
What they are doing is keeping their eyes on a constructed Jesus built in their minds by false teachers. This of course is [[Idolatry]].<Ref name="Isidolatry">{{Isidolatry}}</Ref>
To see if people really have fruits worthy of [[Repentance]] we may ask: {{Where}}
Are the [[Modern Christians]] being like the [[Pharisees]] before them and failing to attend to those same {{Weightier matters}}
== Family Challenge ==
There are a few quotes in [[Mark 3]]:30-35 that some interpret as a rift between Jesus and his family.
{{Joseph of Arimathea}}
=== Joseph the Father ===
Some people suggest that Joseph was 80 or even 90 years old when he got married.<Ref>''The History of Joseph the Carpenter'', composed in Egypt between the 6th and 7th centuries produces that idea of 90 years old.</Ref> This is unlikely for numerous reasons other than its dubious source. Joseph would have to be making almost hundred-mile hikes in a few days at more than 90 or 100 years old if we are to believe the Bible account of his journey to the [[Temple in Jerusalem]]. Most historians agree that both Joseph of Arimathea and Joseph were a part of the [[Essenes|Essene]] sect. [[Essenes|Essenes]] men often did not get married until after they completed their studies and prepared to provide a home for their family.
Joseph was probably humble but not a carpenter but a stonemason. He had to know math, architecture, the use of and types of stone. This would take years of study, and of course, he had to study the scriptures, all while learning the tools and techniques of building with stone. He could have been 35 or even in his 40s before he was stable enough to get married. Also according to some sources like the [[Gospel of James]] Joseph already had sons.
If Joseph was astute and proficient at his trade and built a crew that could work large stone there was literally ''tons'' of work for him and his people. There was no town of [[Nazareth]] at that time but there was a large community of [[Nazareth|Nazarene]] Essenes. There was big-money for skilled architectural stonemason after the arrival of Romans who loved to build in stone in places nearby like Cearsaria but also in [[Egypt]]. There are stories from antiquity of Jesus helping Joseph fitting stones in Egypt.
Joseph was actually Mary’s first cousin, once removed, as they shared the same grandfather, Matthan, who was descended from both Judean and Parthian royalty making both of them part of those same extended royal families as well. Bloodline mattered. It gave you rights and also celebrity status. So, Joseph was likely born around 49 B.C. to Jacob, the Patriarch of Jerusalem. That would have made him around 42 when he was married.
Jesus' cousin was [[John the Baptist]]. There is no sign of rejection of Jesus by John in the Bible although he did not know he was the Messiah until he was already in prison. <Ref>[[Luke 7]]:20 When the men were come unto him, they said, John Baptist hath sent us unto thee, saying, Art thou he that should come? or look we for another?</Ref>
James was his brother and never gave any sign of rejecting Jesus. He served in Jerusalem, suffering death at the hands of the murderous [[Pharisees]]. He was doing his job as minister of the [[Kingdom of God]] on earth. 
Joses, Simon, and Jude who were also his brothers "according to the flesh"<Ref> Eusebius of Caesarea, Historia Ecclesiae, 1:7:11-14</Ref>  accepted Jesus and worked diligently for the [[early Church]] who were the ''[[called out]]'' by Christ and [[appoint]]ed a kingdom. Again like the [[Levites]] before them they taught [[The Way|the way]] of providing guidance through a [[daily ministration]] rightly dividing bread from house to house.<Ref>Acts 2:46 And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart,</Ref> Others who did not follow [[The Way]] continued to eat of the [[Corban]] of the [[Pharisees]] and the [[Bread and circuses|free bread]] of [[Rome]] which not only made the word of God to none effect it also made them [[surety]] for the debt.
Jesus' mother never "rejected" him, but she feared his going to Jerusalem. 
The problem with these interpretations of Mark is because people do not understand what the Church was doing and how it was organized. The Church was an [[appoint]]ed [[Kingdom of God]] or [[government]] of God on earth. It was not like other governments of the [[world]] who exercised authority one over the other.
It was a voluntary government that functioned by way of the [[perfect law of liberty]] through the exercise of real [[faith]], together with the [[hope]] of salvation through the [[charity]] living in the ''hearts and minds'' of other Christians in a broad [[community]] ''[[network]]'' of [[fellowship]].
There were many requirements laid on those who would become his student ministers or [[disciples]]. These same restrictions had been laid upon the [[Levites]] centuries before, although many did not understand those requirements because of the teachings and [[sophistry]] of the [[Pharisees]]. His disciples could [[Vow of poverty|not own property]] in their own name, and they would have to give up what they already owned. Like the [[Levites]] who could not be a part of the walled camp and were [[called out]] as the [[Church in the Wilderness]], if Jesus' [[disciples]] — who were [[called out]] of the [[world]] — were not willing to leave their family, they could not be one of His disciples.<Ref>[[Luke 14]]:26 If any [man] come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.</Ref>
Of course, Jesus was not talking about abandoning our responsibilities to our young children or aging parents, but he encouraged prioritizing the commitment to be ministers of [[His Church]]. The commitment to be the [[ministers]] of His [[appoint]]ed kingdom included the responsibility of a [[daily ministration]] for [[believer]]s who shared his [[Eucharist]] and [[communion]] in the [[network]] of the [[early Church]] all over the Roman Empire.
Christians did not eat at the [[Proverbs 23|table of kings]] or the [[Imperial Cult of Rome]]. They did not apply for the [[Corban]] of the [[Pharisees]] nor of [[Rome]] nor of any [[government]] that ''[[exercises authority]] one over the other'' like [[Modern Christians]] do. Early Christians knew that what those governments offered as [[welfare]] was actually a [[snare]]. To covet their [[benefits]] would entangle them again in the yoke of [[bondage]] and the [[elements]] of the [[world]].
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== King of the Jews ==
Was Jesus an "eccentric Rabbi" and leader of a small religious group or was he the rightful king of Judea and therefore the faithful of [[Israel]]?
The whole story of Jesus is the story of a King being born, being hailed as the Highest son of David, taking the kingdom from an apostate group who sat in the seat of [[Moses]]<Ref>Matthew 21:43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.</Ref> and [[appoint]]ing that kingdom to His [[Little flock]].
Did the Jews accept Jesus as king?
Thousands did accept Him and some Jews reject He who was proclaimed the Highest son of David and some said they had no King but [[Caesar]]. To call him [[Christ]] is to call him the anointed King, the Messiah. Yes, the [[Kingdom of God]] is different from the kingdoms of the ''[[world]]'' of [[Pontius Pilate]].
Why Doesn't Judaism Accept the Christian Messiah?
There are at least four common reasons that Jews reject Jesus as the Messiah besides the obvious reason which the [[Pharisees]] displayed.
: 1. Build the Third Temple (Ezekiel 37:26-28).
The temple was never to be built of dead stone. It was meant to be in you, in your heart and in your mind, in the midst of you.<Ref>Ezekiel 37:26 Moreover I will make a covenant of peace with them; it shall be an everlasting covenant with them: and I will place them, and multiply them, and will set my sanctuary in the midst of them for evermore. 27  My tabernacle also shall be with them: yea, I will be their God, and they shall be my people.28  And the heathen shall know that I the LORD do sanctify Israel, when my sanctuary shall be in the midst of them for evermore.</Ref>The temple was to be built of "living stones".
: 2. Gather all Jews back to Israel (Isaiah 43:5-6).
It was to usher in a gathering of the faithful Jews to [[Israel]] which is simply the "place where God prevails". The apostles were faithful Jews and most of the people who were willing to get the Baptism Of Jesus at Pentecost were also Jews. Many of the people who were a part of the lost tribes of [[Israel]] were also followers of Jesus as the Christ/Messiah. The "seed" would be all the descendants of faith of [[Abraham]] who had ''eyes to see and ears to hear''. They will have the character of Christ written in their hearts by God and willing to do those things taught by [[Jesus]] and [[Moses]].<Ref>[[Isaiah 43]]:5 Fear not: for I [am] with thee: I will bring thy seed from the east, and gather thee from the west; 6  I will say to the north, Give up; and to the south, Keep not back: bring my sons from far, and my daughters from the ends of the earth;7  Even every one that is called by my name: for I have created him for my glory, I have formed him; yea, I have made him.
: 8 ¶  Bring forth the blind people that have eyes, and the deaf that have ears. 9  Let all the nations be gathered together, and let the people be assembled: who among them can declare this, and shew us former things? let them bring forth their witnesses, that they may be justified: or let them hear, and say, It is truth.</Ref>
There was an in gathering in a network of [[Tens]] which was [[commanded]] by Christ that reached beyond the Roman Empire.
: 3. An era of peace, and end all hatred, oppression, suffering, and disease. This Nation appointed by the Messiah would be one of peace. (Isaiah 2:4)<Ref>Isaiah 2:4 And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more. 5  O house of Jacob, come ye, and let us walk in the light of the LORD.</Ref>
[[Early Christians]] were a nation of people dedicated to peace. They not only did not covet their neighbor's goods like the [[Corban]] of the [[Pharisees]] and [[Rome]] but they did not raise up arms against those who opposed them. And those who actively persecuted them continued to decline and fall while Christian communities thrived. Eventually, a false Christianity would rise up, persecute Jews and Christians, make war, return to [[covetous practices]] and become ''entangled'' in the [[elements]] of the [[world]] and a [[yoke]] of [[bondage]].
The knowledge of God and [[The Way]] reached all over the [[world]] by that [[network]] but many reject that knowledge because they do not have eyes to see nor ears to hear.
: 4.  "God will be King over all the world... His Name will be One" ([[Zechariah 14]]:9). While the Jews that opposed Jesus as the Messiah claimed they had no King but Caesar, the Jews who accepted Christ said ''there is another King, one Jesus''.<Ref>[[Acts 17]]:7 Whom Jason hath received: and these all do contrary to the decrees of [[Caesar]], saying that there is another king, [one] Jesus.</Ref> Tyrants fell and Christians prospered. If people would [[repent]] the power of the world would again diminish and liberty under God would prevail in the [[world]] again.
Some will add to this that there needed to be a resurrection of the dead. Of course, there was a resurrection of the dead both spiritually and physically.<Ref>[[Matthew 27]]:53 "And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many."</Ref>
Those who became followers of Christ and did what he commanded were literally the new Jews or citizens of Judea. The ministers of His Kingdom ''worked daily in the temple rightly dividing the bread from house to house''. Those who rejected Jesus as the King called themselves Jews but they were not.<Ref>Revelation 2:9  I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.
</Ref>
"[[Bishop]]s, presbyters([[Elder]]) and [[deacon]]s occupy in the [[church]] the same positions as those which were occupied by Aaron, his sons, and the [[Levites]] in the temple." Jerome, Ep. 146. Both the [[Levites]] and the [[early Church]] appointed by Christ were "[[Ekklesia|called out]]" to be a [[peculiar people]] who were to serve those who would [[repent]] and seek [[The Way|the ways]] of God.
When Jesus told his disciples "So likewise, whosoever he be of you that forsaketh not all that he hath, he cannot be my disciple." the word hath meant their ''property''.<Ref> 5224 ~ὑπάρχοντα~ huparchonta \@hoop-ar’-khon-tah\@ neuter plural of present participle active of 5225 as noun; ; v participle AV-goods 7, that (one) has 4, things which (one) possesses 2, substance 1; 14 1) possessions, goods, wealth, property</Ref> [[Luke 14]]:33 
: '''Both the [[early Church]] ministers [[appoint]]ed by the Christ and the [[Levites]]''' owned property but they held it in common<Ref>Acts 2:44  And all that believed were together, and had [[all things common]];
Acts 4:32  And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common.</Ref> as join heirs<Ref>Romans 8:17 "And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with [him], that we may be also glorified together."</Ref> because the ordained ministers of the Church or "[[Ekklesia|called out]]" and the "[[Ekklesia|called out]]" of Moses were to belong to God and serve the people who depended on charity rather than force to provide the [[Welfare|welfare]] or [[Pure Religion]] of God.
:  The [[Church legally defined|Legal definition of the Church]] was also a group of people called out to serve with ''"corporate elements"''. They were the corpus of Christ, appointed by Him, for His purposes, and in one accord. That body of ministers ''holding all things in common'' were called out and gathered to serve the society in [[Free Assemblies]].
[[Rome]] steadily declined in a well-populated Europe and Asia. There were many attempts to raise up new [[Nimrod]]s and [[Babylon]]... But many people lived in Peace with no real threat of world domination. After a thousand years, the adversary was unchained. Now the whole world is back in [[bondage]], numbered and serve governments that abort children by the millions to the chagrin of modern Moleck.
Most [[Modern Christians]] and Jews violate the [[Ten Commandments]] regularly as a matter of policy both their [[covetous practices]] and systems of [[Corban]]. This and their lack of [[Pure Religion]] is why they have returned to the [[bondage]] of [[Egypt]]. They have [[covet]]ed the [[wages of unrighteousness]] provided by the [[gods]] of the [[world]] who they covenant with to get [[benefits]] at the expense of their neighbor.
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[[Why did Jesus Say]]
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[[Was Jesus a socialist]]?
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Who is the real Jesus? This article shows just some of the distinction between the early Church and modern Christians. The modern Christian think they know Jesus like the Pharisees thought they knew Moses
Εν αρχή ην ο λόγος, "In the beginning was the Word"[1] that word was made flesh and according to many Jews at that time He was considered to be the Messiah, (Maschiach in Hebrew) = the Anointed One, the Chosen One = the Christ, χρίσμα in Greek or ΙησουΣ ΧριστοΣ, which is Greek for Jesus the Christ or Yeshua the Anointed One. Philo of Alexandria seems to be the first to associate the phrase "ο λόγος"(The logos) which could be translated the reason being Right Reason or in Hebrew might appear as Wisdom (ChetKafMemHey חָכְמָה)[2]. We see this in Jeremiah 10:12 and Jeremiah 51:15 as בְּחָכְמָת֑וֹ bə-ḥā-ḵə-mā-ṯōw BeitHeyKafMemTavVav or “by His Wisdom” "and at His discretion" or "by His understanding" וּבִתְבוּנָת֖וֹ ū-ḇiṯ-ḇū-nā-ṯōw VavBeitTavBeitVavNunTavVav "has stretched out" or "has extended the heavens" from what we call the spiritual realms. Using this "wisdom" God brings forth creation in Psalms 104:24 and 30.
There is another word for wisdom from a Hebrew word said to mean "substantiate" tuwshiyah[3]


Personal relationship with Jesus

Do you have a personal relationship with Jesus?

This is a question often asked by modern Christians who think they have just such a relationship and they religiously clink to that belief that their relationship is genuine.

Of course, many of the Pharisees and Zealots thought they had a similar relationship with God and the teachings of Moses.

This sweet sounding phrase, like Born again, has a number of elements and ideas that we may need to be properly define in order to answer the question truthfully:

Personal. Of or relating to a particular person; while the word Person is applied to men, women and children.
Relationship. Synonyms include a connection or interconnection, association or interdependence, an affair or amorous entanglement or even a flirtation.
As a term it has been defined as "the way in which two or more people or groups regard and behave toward each other."
Jesus is the most important element of this commonly recited phrase or claim. But their are many images of Jesus created in peoples mind that may be far from the real Jesus.

Many people say they love Jesus but Jesus said there will people who say that but are actually workers of iniquity.[4]

What is the psychology behind a personal relationship with Jesus?

And how do you know that personal relationship is with the real Jesus and not one that has been imagined or conjured out of the the doctrines of men?

How do you know that you are not under a strong delusion?

What can help us know if we are a part of the groups that deceived as spoken of by Christ.

This relationship that is often claimed by many to be a personal relationship with Jesus can give us a feeling of a meaning and purpose to life. This can improve emotions, hormone levels and eliminate or reduce debilitating or detrimental stress.

It is true that the phrase "personal relationship with Jesus" is not in the Bible, but every "personal" relationship with anyone must be mutual. The words "individual" and "private" may apply but since Jesus as LORD is integral and essential the claim should be accompanied by an unbiased conformity to His doctrine reinforced  by words and deeds that would give evidence of that  relationship in practice. 

We should remember that the relationship, if genuinely with Christ and His Holy Spirit it should produce evidence of spiritual fruit and a conformity with the doctrine of Jesus according to the will of God the Father.

Any such genuine relationship with the Real Jesus may clearly lead to a mutual rejection of the Fathers of the earth and their reward of unrighteousness. There also be an opening of the eyes, an embracing of the light which will reveal the iniquity of the world at its covetous practices.

Elements of a personal relationship

The profession of a personal relationship often involves numerous ideas and concepts that upon examination can clarify the truth of such a claim.

1. Trusting Jesus as the LORD over your life on a daily basis and living in a way that is defined by him. 

2. Communicating with Jesus can be real or part of a delusion with Jesus as an imaginary friend.   3. Prayer as a practice may be a continuous recognition of a superior source beyond ourselves because it may suggest a subordinate position. But it also can become a part of a delussion that "our God" is superior and therefore we are superior. This may appear as a holler than thou attitude.

4. Service is serving God and others. This brings religious service or worship service into the conversation. Religion has previously been defined as [....]

5. Repentance is  commonly listed as an element of that personal relationship but has also been mistakenly been identified as being sorry for bad action as we see in the phrase, "Repenting of sins and asking Jesus to forgive."

While we may be sorry "repentance" is thinking differently and would in this case would include thinking like Jesus. By examining Jesus and his doctrine we may perceive if we do or do not think like Jesus.  [....]

6. Union with Christ should include Believing that Christ or His Holy Spirit dwells in the heart of believers, and that believers abide in the heart of Christ. 

Again the truth of that should be detectable by comparing what people say with what they do.

  7. Interpersonal relationship: Having an interpersonal relationship with the Body of Christ, which includes other believers.   

Jesus the savior

Has Jesus saved you?

Is the real Jesus your savior?

Who is the real Jesus?

The real Jesus warned that many would be deceived about knowing Him and He knowing them.[5]

Augustus Caesar was also called the "savior" and the "Son of God".

Christian were persecuted because they said there was another King one Jesus and did not trust nor have faith in the genius of Caesar.[6]

Who is the real Jesus?

Did He die for your sins?

We are told in the Gospel of John[7] that God sent His son that we might be saved.

Jesus told us many things that we might be saved.[8]

The word "MIGHT"[9] suggests that Jesus did what he came to do but some might not be saved simply because they say they love Jesus as their Lord.[10]

Can you be saved if you do not follow the Doctrines of Jesus?

Is He really your savior if you have not repented?[11]

Is He really your Lord if you do not do what he said?[4]

Could you be deceived[12] about what you believe about what the Doctrines of Jesus real are?

Do you really have faith if you are not seeking the dominion and righteousness of God?[13]

Not doers

People who are not doers of the word may not be believers in the real Jesus.

Jesus makes it clear that "many" will think they love Him but have been deceived into believing in a false image of Jesus. These self deceived people will be told that they should get away from Him because he never knew them except as workers of iniquity.

How do we know that we are not one of those "many"?[14]

People might be deceived because of unrighteous practices and lack of love for the truth.[15]

He also told us that if we did not forgive then His Father would not forgive us.[16]

So it is not automatic that we are forgiven nor saved.

Jesus also told us to seek the Righteousness of God and that many would think they came in His name but would be told to get away from Him because they were in fact Workers of Iniquity and not Doers of the Word. Like the Pharisees before them they will be under the delusion that they have their eyes on Jesus but in truth they do not even know him. We know this because they are not bearing Fruit worthy of those who truly repent.

The modern Christian is often not doing what Christ told us to be doing. They are doing the very things that Christ condemned the Pharisees for doing.

  1. John 1:1-2 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God." This was clearly a reference to Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
  2. 02451 חָכְמָה‎ chokmah ChetKafMemHey[khok-maw’] from 02449 chakam wise; n f; [BDB-315a] [{See TWOT on 647 @@ "647a" }] AV-wisdom 145, wisely 2, skilful man 1, wits 1; 149
    1) wisdom
    1a) skill (in war)
    1b) wisdom (in administration)
    1c) shrewdness, wisdom
    1d) wisdom, prudence (in religious affairs)
    1e) wisdom (ethical and religious)
    • ח Chet The Life Force - Dynamic nature of - cause and effect - give life and live.[fence, thread, hedge, chamber...cycle] (Numeric value: 8)
    • כ ך Kaf K Crown: To Actualize Potential power from spiritual to physical realm [to cover, strength] (Numeric value: 20)
    • מ ם Mem Fountain of water, a flow, a fountain of the Divine Wisdom [massive, overpower chaos] (Numeric value: 40)
    • ה Hey Expression--Thought, Speech, Action. Manifest seeds of thought and life. [Emphasize, jubilation, window, fence] (Numeric value: 5)
  3. 08454 תּוּשִׁיָּה‎ tuwshiyah TavVavShinYodHey [too-shee-yaw’] or תשׁיה‎ tushiyah TavShinYodHey [too-shee-yaw’]from an unused root probably meaning to substantiate; n f; [BDB-444b] [{See TWOT on 923 @@ "923a" }] AV-wisdom 7, enterprise 1, thing as it is 1, that which is 1, substance 1, working 1; 12
    1) wisdom, sound knowledge, success, sound or efficient wisdom, abiding success
    1a) sound or efficient wisdom
    1b) abiding success (of the effect of sound wisdom)
  4. 4.0 4.1 Workers of Iniquity
    Proverbs 30:20 "Such is the way of an adulterous woman; she eateth, and wipeth her mouth, and saith, I have done <06466> no wickedness <0205>.
    Isaiah 31:2 "Yet he also is wise, and will bring evil<07451רַע‎>, and will not call back his words: but will arise against the house of the evildoers <07489רָעַע‎>, and against the help of them that work <06466> iniquity <0205>.
    Hosea 6:8 "Gilead is a city of them that work <06466> iniquity <0205>, and is polluted with blood."
    Micah 2:1 "Woe to them that devise <02803ChetShinBeit> iniquity <0205>, and work <06466> evil <07451רַע‎> upon their beds! when the morning is light, they practise it, because it is in the power of their hand.
    Luke 13:25-27 “‭25 When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are: ‭26 Then shall ye begin to say, We have eaten and drunk in thy presence, and thou hast taught in our streets. ‭27 But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity. 28 There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you [yourselves] thrust out.”
    Matthew 7:22 "Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity."
    Matthew 25:12 "But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not... 41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed<2672>, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:... 44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee? 45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me."
    John 13:13 "Ye call me Master and Lord: and ye say well; for [so] I am. 14 If I then, [your] Lord and Master, have washed your feet; ye also ought to wash one another’s feet. 15 For I have given you an example, that ye should do as I have done to you. 16 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord; neither he that is sent greater than he that sent him. 17 If ye know these things, happy are ye if ye do them."
    Galatians 6:7 "Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap."
  5. Lord, Lord
    • Matthew 7:20 "Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. 21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. 24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: 25 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock. 26 And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand:"
    • Matthew 25:11 "Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us. 12 But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not. 13 Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh."
    Matthew 25:26 "His lord answered and said unto him, [Thou] wicked and slothful servant, thou knewest ... Take therefore the talent from him..."
    Matthew 25:44 "Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee? 45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did [it] not to one of the least of these, ye did [it] not to me."
    • Luke 6:46 "And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say? 47 Whosoever cometh to me, and heareth my sayings, and doeth them, I will shew you to whom he is like: 48 He is like a man which built an house, and digged deep, and laid the foundation on a rock: and when the flood arose, the stream beat vehemently upon that house, and could not shake it: for it was founded upon a rock. 49 But he that heareth, and doeth not, is like a man that without a foundation built an house upon the earth; against which the stream did beat vehemently, and immediately it fell; and the ruin of that house was great."
    • Luke 13:25 "When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are: 26 Then shall ye begin to say, We have eaten and drunk in thy presence, and thou hast taught in our streets. 27 But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all [ye] workers of iniquity. 28 There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you [yourselves] thrust out."
    • John 13:13 "Ye call me Master and Lord: and ye say well; for [so] I am. 14 If I then, [your] Lord and Master, have washed your feet; ye also ought to wash one another’s feet. 15 For I have given you an example, that ye should do as I have done to you. 16 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord; neither he that is sent greater than he that sent him. 17 If ye know these things, happy are ye if ye do them."
    • Galatians 6:7 "Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap."
  6. See the trial of Christians
  7. John 3:17 For God sent not His Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
  8. John 5:34 But I receive not testimony from man: but these things I say, that ye might be saved.
  9. Romans 10:1 Brethren, my heart’s desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.
    1 Thessalonians 2:16 Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins alway: for the wrath is come upon them to the uttermost.
  10. Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
    Matthew 25:11 Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us. But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not.
    Luke 6:46 And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?
    Luke 13:25 When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are:
  11. : Matthew 3:2 And saying, Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.
    Matthew 4:17 From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.
    Mark 1:15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.
    Mark 6:12 And they went out, and preached that men should repent.
    Luke 13:3 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.
    Luke 13:5 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.
    Luke 17:3 Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him. 4 And if he trespass against thee seven times in a day, and seven times in a day turn again to thee, saying, I repent; thou shalt forgive him.
  12. Matthew 24:4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. 5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
    Matthew 24:11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
    Matthew 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if [it were] possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
    Matthew 27:63 Saying, Sir, we remember that that deceiver said, while he was yet alive, After three days I will rise again.
    Mark 13:5 And Jesus answering them began to say, Take heed lest any [man] deceive you:
    Mark 13:6 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am [Christ]; and shall deceive many.
    Luke 21:8 And he said, Take heed that ye be not deceived: for many shall come in my name, saying, I am [Christ]; and the time draweth near: go ye not therefore after them.
    John 7:12 And there was much murmuring among the people concerning him: for some said, He is a good man: others said, Nay; but he deceiveth the people.
    John 7:47 Then answered them the Pharisees, Are ye also deceived?
  13. : Matthew 6:33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.
    Luke 12:31 But rather seek ye the kingdom of God; and all these things shall be added unto you.
  14. Matthew 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
    Matthew 24:5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many. And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity... 24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:
  15. 2 Thessalonians 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
  16. Matthew 6:14 For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you:
    Matthew 6:15 But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.
    Matthew 18:35 So likewise shall my heavenly Father do also unto you, if ye from your hearts forgive not every one his brother their trespasses.
    Mark 11:25 And when ye stand praying, forgive, if ye have ought against any: that your Father also which is in heaven may forgive you your trespasses.
    Mark 11:26 But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses.