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[[File:Ignatius of Antioch.jpg|right|thumb|[[Ignatius of Antioch]] a [[disciple]] of John the Apostle was martyred because they said he was "robbing" the [[temples]] at Antioch just like the [[Apostles]] who were accused of the same crime concerning the the [[Ephesus|Temple at Ephesus]]. <Br>His writings have been misused by the ''[[Apostasy|Apostate]]'' church of [[Constantine]] to suggest that Jesus set up a Church that [[exercise authority]] one over the other. Why was he martyred? What was the [[Christian conflict]] with [[Rome]]?<Br> But the [[Bible]] itself has been used by religious and political rulers alike by altering the meaning of words like [[religion]], [[worship]], [[republic]] and [[democracy]] to more easily lead the people away from the truth again and back into [[bondage]].<Br>It is amazing that God sent [[Moses]] to deliver the people from [[bondage of Egypt|bondage where 20% of their labor]] belonged to government and the modern Church has allowed the people to go into a [[employ|bondage where far more of their labor]] belongs to the governments of the [[world]]. I only can believe the modern Christian church is in [[apostasy]]. ]]
[[File:Ignatius of Antioch.jpg|right|thumb|[[Ignatius of Antioch]] a [[disciple]] of John the Apostle was martyred because they said he was "robbing" the [[temples]] at Antioch just like the [[Apostles]] who were accused of the same crime concerning the the [[Ephesus|Temple at Ephesus]]. <Br>His writings have been misused by the ''[[Apostasy|Apostate]]'' church of [[Constantine]] to suggest that Jesus set up a Church that [[exercise authority]] one over the other. Why was he martyred? What was the [[Christian conflict]] with [[Rome]]?<Br> But the [[Bible]] itself has been used by religious and political rulers alike by altering the meaning of words like [[religion]], [[worship]], [[republic]] and [[democracy]] to more easily lead the people away from the truth again and back into [[bondage]].<Br>It is amazing that God sent [[Moses]] to deliver the people from [[bondage of Egypt|bondage where 20% of their labor]] belonged to government and the modern Church has allowed the people to go into a [[employ|bondage where far more of their labor]] belongs to the governments of the [[world]]. I only can believe the modern Christian church is in [[apostasy]].<Br>"[[Legal charity]]" provided by the [[social welfare]] states will destroy [[liberty]] by [[degenerate|degenerating]] the morality of the [[masses]] and increasing the power of [[tyrants]] until the people are unable to stand in the liberty of Christ because the [[modern Christian]] having accepted the [[Doctrines of men]] that their [[covetous practices]] are not a [[sin]] against God.<Br> The [[Riots|riots]] we saw that burned cities and the ease by which they shut down the people and their business is evidence of the coming destruction of modern society which can be laid on the feet of the [[Apostasy|apostate]] Churches. ]]


== Apostasy ==
== Apostasy ==
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Even, “Augustus [Caesar] was sensible that mankind is governed by names; nor was he deceived in his expectation, that the senate and people would submit to slavery, provided they were respectfully assured that they still enjoyed their ancient freedom.”<Ref>Edward Gibbon, Chapter 3, Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire.</Ref>
Even, “Augustus [Caesar] was sensible that mankind is governed by names; nor was he deceived in his expectation, that the senate and people would submit to slavery, provided they were respectfully assured that they still enjoyed their ancient freedom.”<Ref>Edward Gibbon, Chapter 3, Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire.</Ref>
   
   
The [[early Church]] before it was corrupted and went into [[apostasy]] was [[the way]]  that required the people who counted themselves Christian to depend upon each other through a [[network]] of [[love]]. They had been organized as Christ [[commanded]] in small intimate groups of [[tens]] that operated by [[faith]], [[hope]], and [[charity]] and the [[Perfect law of liberty]] which was talked about by [[Paul the Apostle|Paul]].
== Departing from righteosness ==
 
The [[early Church]] before it was corrupted and went into [[apostasy]] was [[the way]].  
 
That way required the people who counted themselves Christian to depend upon each one another through a [[network]] of [[love]] and [[charity]].  
 
If the people who claim [[faith]] in Christ had been organized as Christ [[commanded]] in small intimate groups of [[tens]] that operated by [[faith]], [[hope]], and [[charity]] and the [[Perfect law of liberty]] which was talked about by [[Paul the Apostle|Paul]] the [[modern Church]] would not have led the people back into [[bondage]] where they like to the [[reward of unrighteousness]].


[[Early Christians]] did not [[force]] their neighbors to contribute to their [[welfare]] with [[benefits]] as the [[socialist]] state of [[Rome]] and their [[free bread]]. There [[Pure Religion|religion remained pure]] because it was not "''spotted''" by the "[[world]]" of [[Rome]].
[[Early Christians]] did not [[force]] their neighbors to contribute to their [[welfare]] with [[benefits]] as the [[socialist]] state of [[Rome]] and their [[free bread]]. There [[Pure Religion|religion remained pure]] because it was not "''spotted''" by the "[[world]]" of [[Rome]].
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[[Christians]] were beginning to [[Repent]] and formed a free way to govern themselves and take [[care]] of their social [[Welfare|welfare]] through [[charity]] alone which strengthened them as a free [[society]].
[[Christians]] were beginning to [[Repent]] and formed a free way to govern themselves and take [[care]] of their social [[Welfare|welfare]] through [[charity]] alone which strengthened them as a free [[society]].


Christians knew that if they followed those [[covetous practices|covetous ways]] of [[legal charity]] that "... their table [would] become a [[snare]] before them: and that which should have been for their [[welfare]], ... [would] become a trap."<Ref name="dark">[[Psalm 69]]:22 Let their table become a snare before them: and that which should have been for their welfare, let it become a trap. 23 Let their eyes be darkened, that they see not; and make their loins continually to shake.
Christians knew that if they followed those [[covetous practices|covetous ways]] of [[legal charity]] that "... their []table]] would become a [[snare]] before them: and that which should have been for their [[welfare]], ... would become a trap."<Ref name="dark">[[Psalms 69]]:22 Let their table become a snare before them: and that which should have been for their welfare, let it become a trap. 23 Let their eyes be darkened, that they see not; and make their loins continually to shake.
: [[Romans 11]]:9 And David saith, Let their table be made a snare, and a trap, and a stumbling block, and a recompence unto them: 10 Let their eyes be darkened, that they may not see, and bow down their back alway.</Ref>
: [[Romans 11]]:9 And David saith, Let their table be made a snare, and a trap, and a stumbling block, and a recompence unto them: 10 Let their eyes be darkened, that they may not see, and bow down their back alway.</Ref>


Have the people's eyes been darkened?<Ref name="dark"></Ref>
Have the people's eyes been darkened?<Ref name="dark"></Ref>
== Coming to Terms ==
Yes, the [[modern Church]]es got it wrong. But now the people need to [[Repent]] which is ''to think differently''.
We need to read the Gospel knowing the meaning of [[ThatWord|the words]]  at the time the scriptures were written and become [[doers]] of the word.
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== Wisdom and warnings ==


People have become weak as individuals and as a society for reasons we have known since at least [[Polybius]] and [[Plutarch]] who warned the that the [[benefits]] of rulers would "degenerate" and "ruin" them.
People have become weak as individuals and as a society for reasons we have known since at least [[Polybius]] and [[Plutarch]] who warned the that the [[benefits]] of rulers would "degenerate" and "ruin" them.


But the people and their [[False religion]]s did not heed these [[warnings]] of the wise, the ways ancients <Ref> Jeremiah 18:15 Because my people hath forgotten me, they have burned incense to vanity, and they have caused them to stumble in their ways from the ancient paths, to walk in paths, in a way not cast up;</Ref> from the  [[prophets]] to [[Proverbs]]<Ref>[[Proverbs 23]]:1 When thou sittest to eat with a ruler, consider diligently what is before thee: 2 And put a [[knife]] to thy throat, if thou be a man given to [[appetite]]. 3 Be not desirous of his [[dainties]]: for they are deceitful meat. </Ref> or from [[John the Baptist]] to [[Jesus]] and His [[apostles]] the idea of [[covet]]ing your neighbors' goods through men who [exercise authority]] one over the other has been forbidden.
But the [[masses]] and their [[False religion]]s did not heed these [[warnings]] of the wise, the ways ancients <Ref> Jeremiah 18:15 Because my people hath forgotten me, they have burned incense to vanity, and they have caused them to stumble in their ways from the ancient paths, to walk in paths, in a way not cast up;</Ref> from the  [[prophets]] to [[Proverbs]]<Ref>[[Proverbs 23]]:1 When thou sittest to eat with a ruler, consider diligently what is before thee: 2 And put a [[knife]] to thy throat, if thou be a man given to [[appetite]]. 3 Be not desirous of his [[dainties]]: for they are deceitful meat. </Ref> or from [[John the Baptist]] to [[Jesus]] and His [[apostles]] the idea of [[covet]]ing your neighbors' goods through men who [exercise authority]] one over the other has been forbidden.




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== Peculiar times ==
== Peculiar times ==


Two year of mask wearing [[shutdown]] that has devasted the world economies has stirred the people from their slumber. They see millions lining up for an untested experimental therapy based on [[Numerous_scientists| censored media propaganda]] and they are finally asking some questions.  
Two years of mask wearing [[shutdown]] that has devasted the world economies has stirred the people from their slumber. They see millions lining up for an untested experimental therapy based on [[Numerous_scientists| censored media propaganda]] and they are finally asking some questions.  


The critical question is are they willing to hear the answer?
The critical question is are they willing to hear the answer?
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Ignatius of Antioch a disciple of John the Apostle was martyred because they said he was "robbing" the temples at Antioch just like the Apostles who were accused of the same crime concerning the the Temple at Ephesus.
His writings have been misused by the Apostate church of Constantine to suggest that Jesus set up a Church that exercise authority one over the other. Why was he martyred? What was the Christian conflict with Rome?
But the Bible itself has been used by religious and political rulers alike by altering the meaning of words like religion, worship, republic and democracy to more easily lead the people away from the truth again and back into bondage.
It is amazing that God sent Moses to deliver the people from bondage where 20% of their labor belonged to government and the modern Church has allowed the people to go into a bondage where far more of their labor belongs to the governments of the world. I only can believe the modern Christian church is in apostasy.
"Legal charity" provided by the social welfare states will destroy liberty by degenerating the morality of the masses and increasing the power of tyrants until the people are unable to stand in the liberty of Christ because the modern Christian having accepted the Doctrines of men that their covetous practices are not a sin against God.
The riots we saw that burned cities and the ease by which they shut down the people and their business is evidence of the coming destruction of modern society which can be laid on the feet of the apostate Churches.

Apostasy

What is Apostasy?


Is apostasy just about religion?

a·pos·ta·sy
noun: apostasy; plural noun: apostasies
the abandonment or renunciation of a religious or political belief.

Middle English: from ecclesiastical Latin apostasia, from a late Greek alteration of Greek apostasis meaning ‘defection.’

The Pharisees held both a religious and political position of power[1] when the accused the followers of Jesus the Christ as defecting from what they viewed to be the true citizens of Judea.

According to the man Pontius Pilate Jesus was "The king of the Judeans". And according to the Pharisees they had no king but Caesar.


Apostasy is suppose to be about other people's Religion or churches or their false beliefs or doctrines

Right?

It is not your church or your doctrinal views of religion because you practice the true faith.

Right?

Or do you?

What is Religion?

Their seems to be a variety of definitions of Religion floating about over the the centuries.

An official definition of religion used to define it for the interpreting of the Constitution of the United States is:

  • “Real piety in practice[1], consisting in the performance of all known duties to God and our fellow men.”[2]

And there is the more popular definition that says religion is defined as:

  • "What you think about a supreme being."[3]

The former sees religion as a"the performance of all known dities" while the latter turns "religion" into a mere opinion, "Your truth".

But what does the Bible tell us about "pure Religion"? [4]

Today, people perform their known duties to their fellowman through "Political means", through men who exercise authority one over the other, which they call "social justice".

This departure from the freewill offerings of the Corban of the Old Testament and the fervent charity of the New Testament should be clearly a "defection" from the precepts of God and His prophets to say nothing of social justice through the welfare State being covetous practices.

"The hand of the diligent shall bear rule: but the slothful shall be under tribute."[5]

Defections

So, an individual may be in apostasy if they are in "religious or political" ‘defection.’

Early Americans considered America a Republic and saw their local, state and national government as playing a very limited roll in their society and their lives. For the first part of their history a Democracy was considered to be a bad thing to be avoided.

Many have pondered the question of what made America great:

"I sought for the greatness and genius of America in her commodious harbors and her ample rivers, and it was not there… in her fertile fields and boundless forests, and it was not there…in her rich mines and her vast world commerce, and it was not there… in her democratic Congress and her matchless Constitution, and it was not there. Not until I went into the churches of America and heard her pulpits flame with righteousness did I understand the secret of her genius and power. America is great because America is good; and if America ever ceases to be good, America will cease to be great."[6]


In every turn of the writings of Alexis, he saw “Individual charity is a powerful agency that must not be despised,” and that “Any measure that establishes legal charity on a permanent basis and gives it administrative form thereby creates an idle and lazy class, living at the expense of the industrial and working class."[7]

"Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy." Ezekiel 16:49

This thinking of the dangers of a social safety net provided by a welfare State was common in early America but America today ignore the immorality of the welfare State and its social safety netvthrough "legal charity".

The constituents of David Crockett understood the essential character of a free people to maintain a free society was the practice offervent charity through private welfare.

Throughout history we know that it is not the slothful who maintain liberty. Even early Israel was a republic depending on basic moral ethics of freewill offerings as opposed to those forced by a ruler. When they called for a ruler to maintain its liberty its liberty was soon lost.

Americans may still use the words of freedom and liberty but they do not know what they mean and what they require of the people to be true?

Even, “Augustus [Caesar] was sensible that mankind is governed by names; nor was he deceived in his expectation, that the senate and people would submit to slavery, provided they were respectfully assured that they still enjoyed their ancient freedom.”[8]

Departing from righteosness

The early Church before it was corrupted and went into apostasy was the way.

That way required the people who counted themselves Christian to depend upon each one another through a network of love and charity.

If the people who claim faith in Christ had been organized as Christ commanded in small intimate groups of tens that operated by faith, hope, and charity and the Perfect law of liberty which was talked about by Paul the modern Church would not have led the people back into bondage where they like to the reward of unrighteousness.

Early Christians did not force their neighbors to contribute to their welfare with benefits as the socialist state of Rome and their free bread. There religion remained pure because it was not "spotted" by the "world" of Rome.

Christians were beginning to Repent and formed a free way to govern themselves and take care of their social welfare through charity alone which strengthened them as a free society.

Christians knew that if they followed those covetous ways of legal charity that "... their []table]] would become a snare before them: and that which should have been for their welfare, ... would become a trap."[9]

Have the people's eyes been darkened?[9]

Coming to Terms

Yes, the modern Churches got it wrong. But now the people need to Repent which is to think differently.

We need to read the Gospel knowing the meaning of the words at the time the scriptures were written and become doers of the word.

Religion

Pure Religion‎

Private welfare

Elder

Ekklesia

Public religion

Deacon

Minister

Corban

Baptism

Benefactors | Daily ministration

Pastors

Benefactors

Biting one another

Cry out

Worship

Church

Temples

Altars

Priests

Kings and priests

Bible Index

Network

Wisdom and warnings

People have become weak as individuals and as a society for reasons we have known since at least Polybius and Plutarch who warned the that the benefits of rulers would "degenerate" and "ruin" them.

But the masses and their False religions did not heed these warnings of the wise, the ways ancients [10] from the prophets to Proverbs[11] or from John the Baptist to Jesus and His apostles the idea of coveting your neighbors' goods through men who [exercise authority]] one over the other has been forbidden.


The captivity of lies

We were told that the covetous practices of legal charity would make us merchandise and curse children. We would be again entangled in the yoke of bondage and captivity like the bondage of Egypt.

This precept of not coveting your neighbor's goods was repeated over and over throughout the testaments but the modern Church and modern coreligionists are the blind led by the blind.

The do not listen to men like Paul in Romans 11:9

"And David saith, Let their table be made a snare, and a trap, and a stumblingblock, and a recompence unto them:"

Nor the warning in 2 Peter 2:3

"And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not."

Nor Proverbs 23

"When thou sittest to eat with a ruler, consider diligently what is before thee: And put a knife to thy throat, if thou be a man given to appetite. Be not desirous of his dainties: for they are deceitful meat."

They do not even keep the Ten Commandments of Exodus 20:17 "Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that [is] thy neighbour’s."

Nor seem to want eternal life or know and keep any law "What shall we say then? [Is] the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet." Romans 7:7

Peculiar times

Two years of mask wearing shutdown that has devasted the world economies has stirred the people from their slumber. They see millions lining up for an untested experimental therapy based on censored media propaganda and they are finally asking some questions.

The critical question is are they willing to hear the answer?

An element of force and coercion has become common around the world and accepted by millions to provide a social safety net through legal charity.

There is no logical, ethical or scientific element to the use of this force. The question is how come they have been and continue to get away with it?

We know that the prophecy is their eyes will be darkened.[9]

Remember Apostasy is often both "religious or political" at the same time.

There has been the instrmentum of rulers that is made possible by the unmooring of the truth from the metaphor and leaving only supertion in it's wake.

We have been in religious and political Apostasy for generations. Since before FDR Americans and the world have been degenerating as free societies because they do not love nor respect their neighbor's rights as much as the love the wages of unrighteousness.

We live particularly vulnerable times and preparedness in an independent voluntary network is key to success of a viable society.

Some societies are served by Federal Emergency Management Agencies and some societies are served by Faith Emergency Ministry Auxiliaries.

Which one are you creating?

Who are you going to call upon if you are affected by the next quake?

Local people may have their hands full.

Two FEMAs

Become a part of the Local networks, form congregations of record, establish your FEMA, your own Faith Emergency Ministry Auxiliaries like the early Church. All you have to do is to love your neighbor as yourself.

Part 5 http://www.hisholychurch.org/kkvv/3rdbatch/121124preachit1_1-2_4.mp3
Apostasy in the Churches and stinky love. String Theory and Christian idiots mentioned. Living temples and separating the Church and eventually you from the ways of the world.
Asking questions about what is wrong and the answers. Read Pure Religionor Watch and Democracy or Watch mentioned. Listen to wholw series at Audio2012#Preach_it_Brother

http://www.preparingyou.com/wiki/Audio2012#Preach_it_Brother


The following is from "There Be gods Many"

Rome recognized Jesus as King and Jesus as king redeemed the people from their Roman involvement, if they would learn his ways. Jews and others who prescribed to the perfect law of liberty established by the government of servants appointed by Jesus became known in history as Christians while those who denounced Jesus as King and continued in apostasy were conquered and destroyed at the fall of Jerusalem. An exodus took place at the destruction of Jerusalem and during much of the persecution of the followers of Christ. These people who we call Christians were mostly Jews and Israelites as well as others who formed the political Kingdom of Jesus and therefore God on earth. His Kingdom was unique in history because it is not like the Kingdoms of the Gentiles or Nations. It is often over-looked because few know what the Kingdom of Heaven looks like. And there are factions that would not want you to truly understand God's Kingdom on earth and therefore they choose to keep it a “Mystery”.
In Gibbon's Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire, he praised "the union and discipline of the Christian republic." He also pointed out that "it gradually formed an independent and increasing state in the heart of the Roman Empire."

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Footnotes

  1. ↑ Matthew 23:1 "Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples, 2 Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat: 3 All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not. 4 For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers. 5 But all their works they do for to be seen of men: they make broad their phylacteries, and enlarge the borders of their garments,"
  2. ↑ From John Bouvier's 1856 Law Dictionary's definition of "religion".
  3. ↑ From Google.
  4. ↑ James 1:27 "Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world."
  5. ↑ Proverbs 12:24 The hand of the diligent shall bear rule: but the slothful shall be under tribute.
  6. ↑ This quote was attributed to Alexis de Tocqueville in the book The Kingdom of God and the American Dream by Sherwood Eddy which was published in 1941.
    It appeared again on November 3, 1952 in a final campaign address in Boston by Dwight D. Eisenhower.
    It similarly was quoted in A Third Treasury of the Familiar by Ralph L. Woods, published in 1970.
    Presidents Reagan, and even Bill Clinton among many others have quoted the line not just because they thought Alexis wrote it but because they believed it was true.
    Andrew Reed and James Matheson while traveling through America in 1834 did write an almost identical quote in meaning:
    “America will be great if America is good. If not, her greatness will vanish away like a morning cloud.” "A Narrative of the Visit to the American Churches": By the Deputation from the Congregation Union of England and Wales, (Vol. II). by Andrew Reed and James Matheson, Harper & Brothers, 1835.
  7. ↑ This is what socialism does and only pure Religion holds the solution. -Alexis De Tocqueville, Memoir on Pauperism
  8. ↑ Edward Gibbon, Chapter 3, Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire.
  9. ↑ 9.0 9.1 9.2 Psalms 69:22 Let their table become a snare before them: and that which should have been for their welfare, let it become a trap. 23 Let their eyes be darkened, that they see not; and make their loins continually to shake.
    Romans 11:9 And David saith, Let their table be made a snare, and a trap, and a stumbling block, and a recompence unto them: 10 Let their eyes be darkened, that they may not see, and bow down their back alway.
  10. ↑ Jeremiah 18:15 Because my people hath forgotten me, they have burned incense to vanity, and they have caused them to stumble in their ways from the ancient paths, to walk in paths, in a way not cast up;
  11. ↑ Proverbs 23:1 When thou sittest to eat with a ruler, consider diligently what is before thee: 2 And put a knife to thy throat, if thou be a man given to appetite. 3 Be not desirous of his dainties: for they are deceitful meat.


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