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[[File:Jesuseyes.jpg|right|thumb|Who is the real [[Jesus]]? This article shows just some of the distinction between the [[early Church]] and [[modern Christians]]. The modern Christian think they know Jesus like the [[Pharisees]] thought they knew [[Moses]]<Br> Εν αρχή ην ο λόγος, "In the beginning was the Word"<Ref>[[John 1]]:1-2  "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God." This was clearly a reference to [[Genesis 1]]:1  In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.</Ref> that word was made flesh and according to many Jews at that time He was considered to be the [[Messiah]], (Maschiach in Hebrew) = the Anointed One, the Chosen One = the [[Christ]], χρίσμα in Greek or  ΙησουΣ ΧριστοΣ, which is Greek for ''[[Jesus]] the [[Christ]]'' or '''Yeshua the [[Anoint]]ed One'''. [[Philo of Alexandria]] seems to be the first to associate the phrase "ο λόγος"(The ''logos'') which could be translated ''the reason'' being [[Right Reason]] or in Hebrew might appear as ''[[Wisdom]]'' (ChetKafMemHey חָכְמָה)<Ref name="chockmah">{{02451}}</Ref>. We see this in [[Jeremiah 10]]:12 and [[Jeremiah 51]]:15 as  בְּחָכְמָת֑וֹ bə-ḥā-ḵə-mā-ṯōw BeitHeyKafMemTavVav or “by His Wisdom” "and at His discretion" or "by His understanding" וּבִתְבוּנָת֖וֹ ū-ḇiṯ-ḇū-nā-ṯōw  VavBeitTavBeitVavNunTavVav "has stretched out" or "has extended the heavens" from what we call the spiritual realms. Using this "wisdom" God brings forth creation in [[Psalms 104]]:24 and 30.<Br>There is another word for wisdom from a Hebrew word said to mean "substantiate" tuwshiyah<Ref name="tuwshiyah">{{08454}}</Ref>]]
== Know Jesus? ==


Who is the real Jesus?


Did He die for your sins?
== Personal relationship with Jesus ==


We are told in the Gospel of John<Ref>John 3:17 For God sent not His Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.</Ref> that God sent His son that we ''might be saved''.
Do you have a ''personal relationship with [[Jesus]]''?


Jesus told us many things that we ''might be saved''.<Ref>John 5:34 But I receive not testimony from man: but these things I say, that ye might be saved.</Ref>
This is a question often asked by [[modern Christians]] who think they have just such a relationship and they religiously clink to that belief that their relationship is genuine.


The word "MIGHT"<Ref>Romans 10:1  Brethren, my heart’s desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.
Of course, many of the [[Pharisees]] and [[Zealots]] thought they had a similar relationship with God and the teachings of [[Moses]].
: 1 Thessalonians 2:16  Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins alway: for the wrath is come upon them to the uttermost. </Ref> suggests that Jesus did what he came to do but some might not be saved simply because they ''say they love Jesus'' as their Lord.<Ref>Matthew 7:21  Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that [[Doer|doeth]] the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22  Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
: Matthew 25:11  Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us. But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not.
: Luke 6:46  And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?
: Luke 13:25  When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are:</Ref>


People who are not [[doers]] of the word may not be [[believers]] in the real Jesus.
This sweet sounding phrase, like [[Born again]], has a number of elements and ideas that we may need to be properly define in order to answer the question truthfully:


Jesus makes it clear that "many" will think they love Him but have been deceived into believing in a false image of Jesus. These self deceived people will be told that they should get away from Him because he never knew them except as [[workers of iniquity]].
: '''Personal'''. Of or relating to a particular person; while the word Person is applied to men, women and children.
: '''Relationship'''. Synonyms include a connection or interconnection, association or interdependence, an affair or amorous entanglement or even a flirtation.
: As a term it has been defined as "the way in which two or more people or groups regard and behave toward each other."
: '''Jesus''' is the most important element of this commonly recited phrase or claim. But their are many images of Jesus created in peoples mind that may be far from the [[Real Jesus|real Jesus]].


How do we know that we are not one of those "many"?<Ref>Matthew 7:22  Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
Many people say they love Jesus but Jesus said there will people who say that but are actually [[Iniquity|workers of iniquity]].<Ref name="workiniquity">{{workiniquity}}</Ref>
Matthew 24:5  For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.  And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that [[workers of iniquity|work iniquity]]. 24  Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and [[doeth]] them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:</Ref>


People might be [[deceived]] because of unrighteous practices and lack of ''love for the truth''.<Ref>2 Thessalonians 2:10  And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. </Ref>
What is the psychology behind a ''personal relationship with Jesus''?


He also told us that if we did not forgive then His Father would not forgive us.<Ref>[[Matthew 6]]:14  For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you:
And how do you know that ''personal relationship'' is with the real Jesus and not one that has been imagined or conjured out of the the [[doctrines of men]]?
<br>Matthew 6:15  But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.
<br>Matthew 18:35  So likewise shall my heavenly Father do also unto you, if ye from your hearts forgive not every one his brother their trespasses.
<br>Mark 11:25  And when ye stand praying, forgive, if ye have ought against any: that your Father also which is in heaven may forgive you your trespasses.
<br>Mark 11:26  But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses.</Ref>


So it is not automatic that we are forgiven nor saved.
How do you know that you are not under a strong delusion?


Jesus also told us to seek the [[Righteousness]] of God and that many would think they came in His name but would be told to get away from Him because they were in fact [[Workers of Iniquity]] and not [[Doers of the Word]]. Like the [[Pharisees]] before them they will be under the delusion that they have their eyes on [[Jesus]] but in truth they do not even know him. We know this because they are not bearing [[Fruit]] worthy of those who truly repent.
What can help us know if we are a part of the groups that [[deceived]] as spoken of by [[Christ]].


The [[Modern Christians|modern Christian]] is often not doing what Christ told us to be doing. They are doing the very things that Christ condemned the [[Pharisees]] for doing.
This relationship that is often claimed by many to be a ''personal relationship'' with [[Jesus]] can give us a feeling of a meaning and purpose to life. This can improve emotions, hormone levels and eliminate or reduce debilitating or detrimental stress.


* He said their [[Corban]] made the word of God to none effect.
It is true that the phrase "personal relationship with Jesus" is not in the Bible, but every "personal" relationship with anyone must be mutual. The words "individual" and "private" may apply but since Jesus as LORD is integral and essential the claim should be accompanied by an unbiased conformity to His doctrine reinforced  by words and deeds that would give evidence of that  relationship in practice. 
* He told them to call no man [[Father|father]] upon the earth.
* He told them to attend to the [[Weightier matters]].  


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We should remember that the relationship, if genuinely with Christ and His Holy Spirit it should produce evidence of spiritual fruit and a conformity with the doctrine of Jesus according to the [[will of God]] the Father.


Yet, most [[Modern Christians]] cannot even tell you what Corban is nor how it causes the word of God to be of no effect.
Any such genuine relationship with the Real Jesus may clearly lead to a mutual rejection of the [[Fathers]] of the earth and their [[reward of unrighteousness]]. There also be an opening of the eyes, an embracing of the light which will reveal the [[iniquity]] of the [[world]] at its [[covetous practices]].


They cannot tell you who the [[Fathers]] of the earth were or are.
=== Elements of a personal relationship ===


Neither do they know nor can tell you of Christ's checklist as to what the [[Weightier matters]] were and are.
The profession of a personal relationship often involves numerous ideas and concepts that upon examination can clarify the truth of such a claim.


Many of our [[Modern Christians]] not only do not have their eyes on the real Jesus, they actually do not want to even hear what He said nor [[Keep the Commandments|keep His commandments]] even though He said that is the way to [[Eternal life]].
1. '''Trusting''' Jesus as the LORD over your life on a daily basis and living in a way that is defined by him. 


These [[Modern Christians]] often pray to the [[Fathers]] of the earth and seek the benefits of the [[Benefactors]] who exercise authority one over the other. This is directly contrary to the [[Doctrines of Jesus]].
2. '''Communicating''' with Jesus can be real or part of a delusion with Jesus as an imaginary friend.
 
3. '''[[Prayer]]''' as a practice may be a continuous recognition of a superior source beyond ourselves because it may suggest a subordinate position. But it also can become a part of a delussion that "our God" is superior and therefore we are superior. This may appear as a holler than thou attitude.


What they are doing is keeping their eyes on a constructed Jesus built in their minds by false teachers. This of course is [[Idolatry]].
4. '''Service''' is serving God and others. This brings religious service or worship service into the conversation. Religion has previously been defined as [....]


To see if people really have fruits worthy of [[Repentance]] we may ask: {{Where}}
5. '''[[Repentance]]''' is  commonly listed as an element of that personal relationship but has also been mistakenly been identified as being sorry for bad action as we see in the phrase, "Repenting of sins and asking Jesus to forgive."


Are the [[Modern Christians]] being like the [[Pharisees]] before them and failing to attend to those same {{Weightier matters}}?
While we may be sorry "[[repentance]]" is thinking differently and would in this case would include thinking like Jesus.
By examining Jesus and his doctrine we may perceive if we do or do not think like Jesus.
 [....]


== Family Challenge ==
6. '''Union''' with Christ should include [[Believer|Believing]] that Christ or His [[Holy Spirit]] dwells in the heart of believers, and that believers abide in the heart of Christ. 


There are a few quotes in [[Mark 3]]:30-35 that some interpret as a rift between Jesus and his family.  
Again the truth of that should be detectable by comparing what people say with what they do.


According to the Talmud, Joseph of Arimathea<Ref>Son of Matthat Son of Levi ben Melchi and Esthra / Estha
 
: Husband of Anna bar Simon, of Arimathea and Alyuba bar Eléazar
7. '''Interpersonal''' relationship: Having an interpersonal relationship with the [[Body of Christ]], which includes other believers. 
: Father of <private> bet Joseph
 
: Brother of Saint Joachim and Bianca
: Half brother of JoAnna of Arimathea; Heli ben ''Matat'' and Gjora</Ref> was the younger brother of Joachim the father of Mary and therefore Jesus' Great uncle.<Ref>George F. Jowett, "The Drama of the Lost Disciples", (p.18). The "Harlein Manuscripts" (38-59f, 1936) appears to support these claims.</Ref> Joseph was one of His disciples.<Ref>Matthew 27:57  When the even was come, there came a rich man of Arimathaea, named Joseph, who also himself was Jesus’ disciple:</Ref> And as one of the [[Was Jesus rich|richest men]] in the Roman Empire, he supported the ministry of Christ. He was bold in his support of Jesus. <Ref>[[Mark 15]]:43  Joseph of Arimathaea, an honourable counsellor, which also waited for the kingdom of God, came, and went in boldly unto Pilate, and craved the body of Jesus.
<br>[[John 19]]:38  And after this Joseph of Arimathaea, being a disciple of Jesus, but secretly for fear of the Jews, besought [[Pilate]] that he might take away the body of Jesus: and Pilate gave him leave. He came therefore, and took the body of Jesus.</Ref> And he believed the kingdom at hand message.<Ref>[[Luke 2]]3:51  (The same had not consented to the counsel and deed of them;) he was of Arimathaea, a city of the Jews: who also himself waited for the [[Kingdom of God]].</Ref>


Jesus' cousin was [[John the Baptist]]. There is no sign of rejection of Jesus by John in the Bible although he did not know he was the Messiah until he was already in prison. <Ref>[[Luke 7]]:20 When the men were come unto him, they said, John Baptist hath sent us unto thee, saying, Art thou he that should come? or look we for another?</Ref>
== Jesus the savior ==


James was his brother and never gave any sign of rejecting Jesus. He served in Jerusalem, suffering death at the hands of the murderous [[Pharisees]]. He was doing his job as minister of the [[Kingdom of God]] on earth. 
Has [[Jesus]] saved you?


Joses, Simon, and Jude who were also his brothers "according to the flesh"<Ref> Eusebius of Caesarea, Historia Ecclesiae, 1:7:11-14</Ref>  accepted Jesus and worked diligently for the [[early Church]] in those days providing guidance through a [[daily ministration]] rightly dividing bread from house to house<Ref>Acts 2:46 And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart,</Ref> while others who did not follow [[The Way]] continued to eat of the [[Corban]] of the [[Pharisees]] and the [[Bread and circuses|free bread]] of [[Rome]].
Is the real Jesus your savior?


Jesus' mother never "rejected" him, but she feared his going to Jerusalem. 
Who is the real [[Jesus]]?


The problem with these interpretations of Mark is because people do not understand what the Church was doing and how it was organized. The Church was an [[appoint]]ed [[Kingdom of God]] or [[government]] of God on earth. It was not like other governments of the [[world]] who exercised authority one over the other.
The real Jesus warned that many would be deceived about knowing Him and He knowing them.<Ref name="lord2">{{lord2}}</Ref>


It was a voluntary government that functioned by way of the [[perfect law of liberty]] through the exercise of real [[faith]], together with the [[hope]] of salvation through the [[charity]] living in the ''hearts and minds'' of other Christians in a broad [[community]] ''[[network]]'' of [[fellowship]].
Augustus Caesar was also called the "[[savior]]" and the "[[Son of God]]".  


There were many requirements laid on those who would become his student ministers or [[disciples]]. These same restrictions had been laid upon the [[Levites]] centuries before, although many did not understand those requirements because of the teachings and [[sophistry]] of the [[Pharisees]]. His disciples could [[Vow of poverty|not own property]] in their own name, and they would have to give up what they already owned. Like the [[Levites]] who could not be a part of the walled camp and were [[called out]] as the [[Church in the Wilderness]], if Jesus' [[disciples]] — who were [[called out]] of the [[world]] — were not willing to leave their family, they could not be one of His disciples.<Ref>[[Luke 14]]:26 If any [man] come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.</Ref>
Christian were [[persecution|persecuted]] because they said there was another King one Jesus and did not trust nor have faith in the ''genius of Caesar''.<Ref> See the [http://preparingyou.com/wiki/Christian_conflict#Christians_trial trial of Christians  ]</Ref>


Of course, Jesus was not talking about abandoning our responsibilities to our young children or aging parents, but he encouraged prioritizing the commitment to be ministers of [[His Church]]. The commitment to be the [[ministers]] of His [[appoint]]ed kingdom included the responsibility of a [[daily ministration]] for [[believer]]s who shared his [[Eucharist]] and [[communion]] in the [[network]] of the [[early Church]] all over the Roman Empire.
Who is the real Jesus?


Christians did not eat at the [[Proverbs 23|table of kings]] or the [[Imperial Cult of Rome]]. They did not apply for the [[Corban]] of the [[Pharisees]] nor of [[Rome]] nor of any [[government]] that ''[[exercises authority]] one over the other'' like [[Modern Christians]] do. Early Christians knew that what those governments offered as [[welfare]] was actually a [[snare]]. To covet their [[benefits]] would entangle them again in the yoke of [[bondage]] and the [[elements]] of the [[world]].
Did He die for your sins?


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We are told in the Gospel of John<Ref>[[John 3]]:17 For God sent not His Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the [[world]] through him might be saved.</Ref> that God sent His son that we ''might be saved''.


== King of the Jews ==
Jesus told us many things that we ''might be saved''.<Ref>[[John 5]]:34 But I receive not testimony from man: but these things I say, that ye might be saved.</Ref>


Why Doesn't Judaism Accept the Christian Messiah?
The word "MIGHT"<Ref>Romans 10:1  Brethren, my heart’s desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.
: [[1 Thessalonians 2]]:16  Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins alway: for the wrath is come upon them to the uttermost. </Ref> suggests that Jesus did what he came to do but some might not be saved simply because they ''say they love Jesus'' as their Lord.<Ref>[[Matthew 7]]:21  Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that [[Doer|doeth]] the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22  Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
: Matthew 25:11  Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us. But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not.
: Luke 6:46  And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?
: Luke 13:25  When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are:</Ref>


There are at least four common reasons that Jews reject Jesus as the Messiah besides the obvious reason which the Pharisees displayed.
Can you be saved if you do not follow the [[Doctrines of Jesus]]?


: 1. Build the Third Temple (Ezekiel 37:26-28).
Is He really your savior if you have not [[repent]]ed?<Ref>: [[Matthew 3]]:2  And saying, [[Repent]] ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.
: [[Matthew 4]]:17  From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, [[Repent]]: for the [[kingdom of heaven]] is at hand.
: [[Mark 1]]:15  And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the [[kingdom of God]] is at hand: [[repent]] ye, and believe the gospel.
: [[Mark 6]]:12  And they went out, and preached that men should [[repent]].
: [[Luke 13]]:3  I tell you, Nay: but, except ye [[repent]], ye shall all likewise perish.
: [[Luke 13]]:5  I tell you, Nay: but, except ye [[repent]], ye shall all likewise perish.
: [[Luke 17]]:3  Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he [[repent]], forgive him. 4  And if he trespass against thee seven times in a day, and seven times in a day turn again to thee, saying, I repent; thou shalt [[forgive]] him.</Ref>


The temple was never to be built of dead stone. It was meant to be in you, in your heart and in your mind, in the midst of you.<Ref>Ezekiel 37:26 Moreover I will make a covenant of peace with them; it shall be an everlasting covenant with them: and I will place them, and multiply them, and will set my sanctuary in the midst of them for evermore. 27  My tabernacle also shall be with them: yea, I will be their God, and they shall be my people.28  And the heathen shall know that I the LORD do sanctify Israel, when my sanctuary shall be in the midst of them for evermore.</Ref>The temple was to be built of "living stones".
Is He really your Lord if you do not do what he said?<Ref name="workiniquity"></Ref>


: 2. Gather all Jews back to Israel (Isaiah 43:5-6).
Could you be deceived<Ref>[[Matthew 24]]:4  And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. 5  For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
: [[Matthew 24]]:11  And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
: [[Matthew 24]]:24  For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if [it were] possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
: [[Matthew 27]]:63  Saying, Sir, we remember that that deceiver said, while he was yet alive, After three days I will rise again.
: [[Mark 13]]:5  And Jesus answering them began to say, Take heed lest any [man] deceive you:
: [[Mark 13]]:6 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am [Christ]; and shall deceive many.
: [[Luke 21]]:8  And he said, Take heed that ye be not deceived: for many shall come in my name, saying, I am [Christ]; and the time draweth near: go ye not therefore after them.
: [[John 7]]:12  And there was much murmuring among the people concerning him: for some said, He is a good man: others said, Nay; but he deceiveth the people.
: [[John 7]]:47  Then answered them the [[Pharisees]], Are ye also deceived?</Ref> about what you believe about what the [[Doctrines of Jesus]] real are?


It was to usher in a gathering of the faithful Jews to [[Israel]] which is simply the "place where God prevails". The apostles were faithful Jews ad most of the people who were willing to get the Baptism Of Jesus at Pentecost were also Jews. Many of the people who were a part of the lost tribes of [[Israel]] also followers of Jesus as the Christ/Messiah. The "seed"  would be all the descendants of faith of [[Abraham]] who had ''eyes to see and ears to hear''. They will have the character of Christ written in their hearts by God and willing to do those things taught by [[Jesus]] and [[Moses]].<Ref>[[Isaiah 43]]:5 Fear not: for I [am] with thee: I will bring thy seed from the east, and gather thee from the west; 6 I will say to the north, Give up; and to the south, Keep not back: bring my sons from far, and my daughters from the ends of the earth;7  Even every one that is called by my name: for I have created him for my glory, I have formed him; yea, I have made him.
Do you really have [[faith]] if you are not [[seek]]ing the dominion and [[righteousness]] of God?<Ref>: [[Matthew 6]]:33  But seek ye first the [[kingdom of God]], and his [[righteousness]]; and all these things shall be added unto you.
: 8 ¶  Bring forth the blind people that have eyes, and the deaf that have ears. 9  Let all the nations be gathered together, and let the people be assembled: who among them can declare this, and shew us former things? let them bring forth their witnesses, that they may be justified: or let them hear, and say, It is truth.</Ref>
: [[Luke 12]]:31 But rather seek ye the [[kingdom of God]]; and all these things shall be added unto you.</Ref>
There was an in gathering in a network of [[Tens]] which was [[commanded]] by Christ that reached beyond the Roman Empire.


: 3. An era of peace, and end all hatred, oppression, suffering, and disease. This Nation appointed by the Messiah would be one of peace. (Isaiah 2:4)<Ref>Isaiah 2:4 And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more. 5  O house of Jacob, come ye, and let us walk in the light of the LORD.</Ref> Early Christians were a nation of people dedicated to peace. They not only did not covet their neighbor's goods like the [[Corban]] of the [[Pharisees]] and [[Rome]] but they did not raise up arms against those who opposed them. And those who actively persecuted them continued to decline and fall while Christian communities thrived. Eventually, a false Christianity would rise up, persecute Jews and Christians, make war, return to [[covetous practices]] and become ''entangled'' in the [[elements]] of the [[world]] and a [[yoke]] of [[bondage]].
=== Not doers ===


The knowledge of God and [[The Way]] reached all over the [[world]] by that [[network]] but many reject that knowledge because they do not have eyes to see nor ears to hear.
People who are not [[doers]] of the word may not be [[believer]]s in the real [[Jesus]].


: 4.  "God will be King over all the world... His Name will be One" ([[Zechariah 14]]:9). While the Jews that opposed Jesus as the Messiah claimed they had no King but Caesar, the Jews who accepted Christ said ''there is  another King, one Jesus''.<Ref>[[Acts 17]]:7 Whom Jason hath received: and these all do contrary to the decrees of [[Caesar]], saying that there is another king, [one] Jesus.</Ref> Tyrants fell and Christians prospered. If people would [[repent]] the power of the world would again diminish and liberty under God would prevail in the [[world]] again.
Jesus makes it clear that "many" will think they love Him but have been deceived into believing in a false image of Jesus. These self deceived people will be told that they should get away from Him because he never knew them except as [[workers of iniquity]].


How do we know that we are not one of those "many"?<Ref>Matthew 7:22  Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
: Matthew 24:5  For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.  And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that [[workers of iniquity|work iniquity]]... 24  Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and [[doeth]] them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:</Ref>


Some will add to this that there was a resurrection of the dead both spiritually and physically.
People might be [[deceived]] because of unrighteous practices and lack of ''love for the truth''.<Ref>[[2 Thessalonians 2]]:10  And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. </Ref>


Matthew 27:53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.
He also told us that if we did not forgive then His Father would not forgive us.<Ref>[[Matthew 6]]:14  For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you:
<br>[[Matthew 6]]:15  But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.
<br>Matthew 18:35  So likewise shall my heavenly Father do also unto you, if ye from your hearts forgive not every one his brother their trespasses.
<br>Mark 11:25  And when ye stand praying, forgive, if ye have ought against any: that your Father also which is in heaven may forgive you your trespasses.
<br>Mark 11:26  But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses.</Ref>


Rome steadily declined in a well populated Europe and Asia. There were may attempts to raise up new [[Nimrod]]s and [[Babylon]]... But many people lived in Peace with no real threat of world domination. After a thousand years, the adversary was unchained. Now the whole world is back in [[bondage]], numbered and serve governments that abort children by the millions to the chagrin of modern Moleck.
So it is not automatic that we are forgiven nor saved.


Jesus also told us to seek the [[Righteousness]] of God and that many would think they came in His name but would be told to get away from Him because they were in fact [[Workers of Iniquity]] and not [[Doers of the Word]]. Like the [[Pharisees]] before them they will be under the delusion that they have their eyes on [[Jesus]] but in truth they do not even know him. We know this because they are not bearing [[Fruit]] worthy of those who truly repent.


Most [[Modern Christians]] and Jews violate the [[Ten Commandments]] regularly as a matter of policy both their [[covetous practices]] and systems of [[Corban]]. This is why they have returned to the [[bondage]] of [[Egypt]]. They have [[covet]]ed the [[wages of unrighteousness]] provided by the [[gods]] of the [[world]] who the covenant with to get [[benefits]] at the expense of their neighbor.
The [[Modern Christians|modern Christian]] is often not doing what Christ told us to be doing. They are doing the very things that Christ condemned the [[Pharisees]] for doing.
 
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Who is the real Jesus? This article shows just some of the distinction between the early Church and modern Christians. The modern Christian think they know Jesus like the Pharisees thought they knew Moses
Εν αρχή ην ο λόγος, "In the beginning was the Word"[1] that word was made flesh and according to many Jews at that time He was considered to be the Messiah, (Maschiach in Hebrew) = the Anointed One, the Chosen One = the Christ, χρίσμα in Greek or ΙησουΣ ΧριστοΣ, which is Greek for Jesus the Christ or Yeshua the Anointed One. Philo of Alexandria seems to be the first to associate the phrase "ο λόγος"(The logos) which could be translated the reason being Right Reason or in Hebrew might appear as Wisdom (ChetKafMemHey חָכְמָה)[2]. We see this in Jeremiah 10:12 and Jeremiah 51:15 as בְּחָכְמָת֑וֹ bə-ḥā-ḵə-mā-ṯōw BeitHeyKafMemTavVav or “by His Wisdom” "and at His discretion" or "by His understanding" וּבִתְבוּנָת֖וֹ ū-ḇiṯ-ḇū-nā-ṯōw VavBeitTavBeitVavNunTavVav "has stretched out" or "has extended the heavens" from what we call the spiritual realms. Using this "wisdom" God brings forth creation in Psalms 104:24 and 30.
There is another word for wisdom from a Hebrew word said to mean "substantiate" tuwshiyah[3]


Personal relationship with Jesus

Do you have a personal relationship with Jesus?

This is a question often asked by modern Christians who think they have just such a relationship and they religiously clink to that belief that their relationship is genuine.

Of course, many of the Pharisees and Zealots thought they had a similar relationship with God and the teachings of Moses.

This sweet sounding phrase, like Born again, has a number of elements and ideas that we may need to be properly define in order to answer the question truthfully:

Personal. Of or relating to a particular person; while the word Person is applied to men, women and children.
Relationship. Synonyms include a connection or interconnection, association or interdependence, an affair or amorous entanglement or even a flirtation.
As a term it has been defined as "the way in which two or more people or groups regard and behave toward each other."
Jesus is the most important element of this commonly recited phrase or claim. But their are many images of Jesus created in peoples mind that may be far from the real Jesus.

Many people say they love Jesus but Jesus said there will people who say that but are actually workers of iniquity.[4]

What is the psychology behind a personal relationship with Jesus?

And how do you know that personal relationship is with the real Jesus and not one that has been imagined or conjured out of the the doctrines of men?

How do you know that you are not under a strong delusion?

What can help us know if we are a part of the groups that deceived as spoken of by Christ.

This relationship that is often claimed by many to be a personal relationship with Jesus can give us a feeling of a meaning and purpose to life. This can improve emotions, hormone levels and eliminate or reduce debilitating or detrimental stress.

It is true that the phrase "personal relationship with Jesus" is not in the Bible, but every "personal" relationship with anyone must be mutual. The words "individual" and "private" may apply but since Jesus as LORD is integral and essential the claim should be accompanied by an unbiased conformity to His doctrine reinforced  by words and deeds that would give evidence of that  relationship in practice. 

We should remember that the relationship, if genuinely with Christ and His Holy Spirit it should produce evidence of spiritual fruit and a conformity with the doctrine of Jesus according to the will of God the Father.

Any such genuine relationship with the Real Jesus may clearly lead to a mutual rejection of the Fathers of the earth and their reward of unrighteousness. There also be an opening of the eyes, an embracing of the light which will reveal the iniquity of the world at its covetous practices.

Elements of a personal relationship

The profession of a personal relationship often involves numerous ideas and concepts that upon examination can clarify the truth of such a claim.

1. Trusting Jesus as the LORD over your life on a daily basis and living in a way that is defined by him. 

2. Communicating with Jesus can be real or part of a delusion with Jesus as an imaginary friend.   3. Prayer as a practice may be a continuous recognition of a superior source beyond ourselves because it may suggest a subordinate position. But it also can become a part of a delussion that "our God" is superior and therefore we are superior. This may appear as a holler than thou attitude.

4. Service is serving God and others. This brings religious service or worship service into the conversation. Religion has previously been defined as [....]

5. Repentance is  commonly listed as an element of that personal relationship but has also been mistakenly been identified as being sorry for bad action as we see in the phrase, "Repenting of sins and asking Jesus to forgive."

While we may be sorry "repentance" is thinking differently and would in this case would include thinking like Jesus. By examining Jesus and his doctrine we may perceive if we do or do not think like Jesus.  [....]

6. Union with Christ should include Believing that Christ or His Holy Spirit dwells in the heart of believers, and that believers abide in the heart of Christ. 

Again the truth of that should be detectable by comparing what people say with what they do.

  7. Interpersonal relationship: Having an interpersonal relationship with the Body of Christ, which includes other believers.   

Jesus the savior

Has Jesus saved you?

Is the real Jesus your savior?

Who is the real Jesus?

The real Jesus warned that many would be deceived about knowing Him and He knowing them.[5]

Augustus Caesar was also called the "savior" and the "Son of God".

Christian were persecuted because they said there was another King one Jesus and did not trust nor have faith in the genius of Caesar.[6]

Who is the real Jesus?

Did He die for your sins?

We are told in the Gospel of John[7] that God sent His son that we might be saved.

Jesus told us many things that we might be saved.[8]

The word "MIGHT"[9] suggests that Jesus did what he came to do but some might not be saved simply because they say they love Jesus as their Lord.[10]

Can you be saved if you do not follow the Doctrines of Jesus?

Is He really your savior if you have not repented?[11]

Is He really your Lord if you do not do what he said?[4]

Could you be deceived[12] about what you believe about what the Doctrines of Jesus real are?

Do you really have faith if you are not seeking the dominion and righteousness of God?[13]

Not doers

People who are not doers of the word may not be believers in the real Jesus.

Jesus makes it clear that "many" will think they love Him but have been deceived into believing in a false image of Jesus. These self deceived people will be told that they should get away from Him because he never knew them except as workers of iniquity.

How do we know that we are not one of those "many"?[14]

People might be deceived because of unrighteous practices and lack of love for the truth.[15]

He also told us that if we did not forgive then His Father would not forgive us.[16]

So it is not automatic that we are forgiven nor saved.

Jesus also told us to seek the Righteousness of God and that many would think they came in His name but would be told to get away from Him because they were in fact Workers of Iniquity and not Doers of the Word. Like the Pharisees before them they will be under the delusion that they have their eyes on Jesus but in truth they do not even know him. We know this because they are not bearing Fruit worthy of those who truly repent.

The modern Christian is often not doing what Christ told us to be doing. They are doing the very things that Christ condemned the Pharisees for doing.

  1. John 1:1-2 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God." This was clearly a reference to Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
  2. 02451 חָכְמָה‎ chokmah ChetKafMemHey[khok-maw’] from 02449 chakam wise; n f; [BDB-315a] [{See TWOT on 647 @@ "647a" }] AV-wisdom 145, wisely 2, skilful man 1, wits 1; 149
    1) wisdom
    1a) skill (in war)
    1b) wisdom (in administration)
    1c) shrewdness, wisdom
    1d) wisdom, prudence (in religious affairs)
    1e) wisdom (ethical and religious)
    • ח Chet The Life Force - Dynamic nature of - cause and effect - give life and live.[fence, thread, hedge, chamber...cycle] (Numeric value: 8)
    • כ ך Kaf K Crown: To Actualize Potential power from spiritual to physical realm [to cover, strength] (Numeric value: 20)
    • מ ם Mem Fountain of water, a flow, a fountain of the Divine Wisdom [massive, overpower chaos] (Numeric value: 40)
    • ה Hey Expression--Thought, Speech, Action. Manifest seeds of thought and life. [Emphasize, jubilation, window, fence] (Numeric value: 5)
  3. 08454 תּוּשִׁיָּה‎ tuwshiyah TavVavShinYodHey [too-shee-yaw’] or תשׁיה‎ tushiyah TavShinYodHey [too-shee-yaw’]from an unused root probably meaning to substantiate; n f; [BDB-444b] [{See TWOT on 923 @@ "923a" }] AV-wisdom 7, enterprise 1, thing as it is 1, that which is 1, substance 1, working 1; 12
    1) wisdom, sound knowledge, success, sound or efficient wisdom, abiding success
    1a) sound or efficient wisdom
    1b) abiding success (of the effect of sound wisdom)
  4. 4.0 4.1 Workers of Iniquity
    Proverbs 30:20 "Such is the way of an adulterous woman; she eateth, and wipeth her mouth, and saith, I have done <06466> no wickedness <0205>.
    Isaiah 31:2 "Yet he also is wise, and will bring evil<07451רַע‎>, and will not call back his words: but will arise against the house of the evildoers <07489רָעַע‎>, and against the help of them that work <06466> iniquity <0205>.
    Hosea 6:8 "Gilead is a city of them that work <06466> iniquity <0205>, and is polluted with blood."
    Micah 2:1 "Woe to them that devise <02803ChetShinBeit> iniquity <0205>, and work <06466> evil <07451רַע‎> upon their beds! when the morning is light, they practise it, because it is in the power of their hand.
    • Luke 13:25-27 “‭25 When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are: ‭26 Then shall ye begin to say, We have eaten and drunk in thy presence, and thou hast taught in our streets. ‭27 But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity. 28 There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you [yourselves] thrust out.”
    Matthew 7:22 "Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity."
    Matthew 25:12 "But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not... 41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed<2672>, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:... 44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee? 45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me."
    John 13:13 "Ye call me Master and Lord: and ye say well; for [so] I am. 14 If I then, [your] Lord and Master, have washed your feet; ye also ought to wash one another’s feet. 15 For I have given you an example, that ye should do as I have done to you. 16 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord; neither he that is sent greater than he that sent him. 17 If ye know these things, happy are ye if ye do them."
    Galatians 6:7 "Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap."
  5. Lord, Lord
    • Matthew 7:20 "Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. 21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. 24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: 25 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock. 26 And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand:"
    • Matthew 25:11 "Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us. 12 But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not. 13 Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh."
    Matthew 25:26 "His lord answered and said unto him, [Thou] wicked and slothful servant, thou knewest ... Take therefore the talent from him..."
    Matthew 25:44 "Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee? 45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did [it] not to one of the least of these, ye did [it] not to me."
    • Luke 6:46 "And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say? 47 Whosoever cometh to me, and heareth my sayings, and doeth them, I will shew you to whom he is like: 48 He is like a man which built an house, and digged deep, and laid the foundation on a rock: and when the flood arose, the stream beat vehemently upon that house, and could not shake it: for it was founded upon a rock. 49 But he that heareth, and doeth not, is like a man that without a foundation built an house upon the earth; against which the stream did beat vehemently, and immediately it fell; and the ruin of that house was great."
    • Luke 13:25 "When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are: 26 Then shall ye begin to say, We have eaten and drunk in thy presence, and thou hast taught in our streets. 27 But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all [ye] workers of iniquity. 28 There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you [yourselves] thrust out."
    • John 13:13 "Ye call me Master and Lord: and ye say well; for [so] I am. 14 If I then, [your] Lord and Master, have washed your feet; ye also ought to wash one another’s feet. 15 For I have given you an example, that ye should do as I have done to you. 16 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord; neither he that is sent greater than he that sent him. 17 If ye know these things, happy are ye if ye do them."
    • Galatians 6:7 "Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap."
  6. See the trial of Christians
  7. John 3:17 For God sent not His Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
  8. John 5:34 But I receive not testimony from man: but these things I say, that ye might be saved.
  9. Romans 10:1 Brethren, my heart’s desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.
    1 Thessalonians 2:16 Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins alway: for the wrath is come upon them to the uttermost.
  10. Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
    Matthew 25:11 Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us. But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not.
    Luke 6:46 And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?
    Luke 13:25 When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are:
  11. : Matthew 3:2 And saying, Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.
    Matthew 4:17 From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.
    Mark 1:15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.
    Mark 6:12 And they went out, and preached that men should repent.
    Luke 13:3 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.
    Luke 13:5 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.
    Luke 17:3 Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him. 4 And if he trespass against thee seven times in a day, and seven times in a day turn again to thee, saying, I repent; thou shalt forgive him.
  12. Matthew 24:4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. 5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
    Matthew 24:11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
    Matthew 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if [it were] possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
    Matthew 27:63 Saying, Sir, we remember that that deceiver said, while he was yet alive, After three days I will rise again.
    Mark 13:5 And Jesus answering them began to say, Take heed lest any [man] deceive you:
    Mark 13:6 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am [Christ]; and shall deceive many.
    Luke 21:8 And he said, Take heed that ye be not deceived: for many shall come in my name, saying, I am [Christ]; and the time draweth near: go ye not therefore after them.
    John 7:12 And there was much murmuring among the people concerning him: for some said, He is a good man: others said, Nay; but he deceiveth the people.
    John 7:47 Then answered them the Pharisees, Are ye also deceived?
  13. : Matthew 6:33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.
    Luke 12:31 But rather seek ye the kingdom of God; and all these things shall be added unto you.
  14. Matthew 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
    Matthew 24:5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many. And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity... 24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:
  15. 2 Thessalonians 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
  16. Matthew 6:14 For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you:
    Matthew 6:15 But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.
    Matthew 18:35 So likewise shall my heavenly Father do also unto you, if ye from your hearts forgive not every one his brother their trespasses.
    Mark 11:25 And when ye stand praying, forgive, if ye have ought against any: that your Father also which is in heaven may forgive you your trespasses.
    Mark 11:26 But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses.