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'''Our unique lifestyle''' is seeking independent living rather than a [[Socialist]] approach to [[Society|society]]. This may appear in many ways.  
'''Our unique lifestyle''' is seeking independent living rather than a [[Socialist]] approach to [[Society|society]]. This may appear in many ways.  


We [[Homeschooling|home schooled]] our children. We often depend on being in business for ourselves rather than employment. Where I live which is away from the city allowed for a better environment to raise children. We do not normally seek loans from banks or credit cards if we can help it so our economy is based on what we can afford rather than borrowing to get things now and spend years to pay it back with interest.
We [[Homeschooling|home schooled]] our children. We often depend on being in business for ourselves rather than employment. Where I live, which is away from the city, allowed for a better environment to raise children. We do not normally seek loans from banks or credit cards if we can help it so our economy is based on what we can afford rather than borrowing to get things now and spend years to pay it back with interest.
   
   
While we still seek to be a part of society in service and sacrifice we do not seek to force society to provide for us.
While we still seek to be a part of society in service and sacrifice we do not seek to force society to provide for us.
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To learn to live by [[Faith|faith]], [[Hope|hope]] and [[charity|charity]] like the early [[Christians]] rather than forcing our neighbor to provide benefits for us through the [[Benefactors|agency of government]] has become unique approach in this modern age but was common when America was becoming a great nation.
To learn to live by [[Faith|faith]], [[Hope|hope]] and [[charity|charity]] like the early [[Christians]] rather than forcing our neighbor to provide benefits for us through the [[Benefactors|agency of government]] has become unique approach in this modern age but was common when America was becoming a great nation.
   
   
Our objective as a minister of [[Christ]] is to teach people to take care of one another through love and charity. We do this and teach and serve others while living "in the [[World]] but not of it" as Christ said.<Ref>John 15:19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.
Our objective as ministers of [[Christ]] is to teach people to take care of one another through love and charity. We do this and teach and serve others while living "in the [[World]] but not of it" as Christ said.<Ref>John 15:19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.
:John 17:14-15 I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.</Ref> This creates another unique set of obstacles for ministers of Christ and their families as the World changes around us. Most [[Modern Christians]] and there Modern ministers do not understand this because they are very much of the [[World]].  
:John 17:14-15 I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.</Ref> This creates another unique set of obstacles for ministers of Christ and their families as the World changes around us. Most [[Modern Christians]] and their Modern ministers do not understand this because they are very much of the [[World]].  
   
   
The command to  "be ye separate" is first to the ministers of the [[Church]] and means to be separate from the ways of society that are contrary to Christ.  [[Socialism]] is contrary to Christ because he was not a socialist. And it is the true Christian and their ministers objective to follow the ways of God  like the days of Moses when the people came out of [[Bondage|bondage]], the days of [[Baptism|John the Baptist]] when the people repented of the  [[Corban]] of the government of [[Herod]] and Rome and shared with the needy in ways that both provided in love and strengthened the poor. And finally like Christ who repeated the words of Moses when he said love one another and thy neighbor as themselves.
The command to  "be ye separate" is first to the ministers of the [[Church]] and means to be separate from the ways of society that are contrary to Christ.  [[Socialism]] is contrary to Christ because he was not a socialist. It is the true Christians and their ministers objective to follow the ways of God  like in the days of Moses when the people came out of [[Bondage|bondage]], in the days of [[Baptism|John the Baptist]] when the people repented of the  [[Corban]] of the government of [[Herod]] and Rome, and shared with the needy in ways that both provided in love and strengthened the poor. Plus finally like Christ who repeated the words of Moses when he said to love one another and thy neighbor as themselves.
   
   
Christ called us that we learn to be separate in our ways of living in society while keeping the commandments like not coveting our neighbors goods or forcing them to provide us with care or security.  
Christ called us that we learn to be separate in our ways of living in society while keeping the commandments like not coveting our neighbors goods or forcing them to provide us with care or security.  


Caring for one another by [[Charity]] had been the way of America. The ministers of the Church to the people, both friend and stranger, must be separate from systems of force, first in order to help others conform to Christ which is the  '''destinations'''  of the faithful and the businesses of the Church.
Caring for one another by [[Charity]] had been the way of America. The ministers of the Church are to minister to the people, (meaning both friend and stranger) , and must be separate from systems of force. This is in order to help others conform to Christ which is the  '''destination'''  of the faithful, and the businesses of the Church.
   
   


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Because money is borrowed to provide these benefits there is another violation of the commandment about the [[Sabbath]] which most people do not understand. These [[Covetous_Practices]] create debt that will have to be paid back in the future, and will [[Curse children]] with that debt. Your [[Slothful|slothful]] practice of wanting something for nothing or less than cost will bring your children under [[Bondage]] and [[Tribute]]. They will be bound on earth under new [[Fathers]] as a [[Surety|surety]] for that  debt.  
Because money is borrowed to provide these benefits there is another violation of the commandment about the [[Sabbath]] which most people do not understand. These [[Covetous_Practices]] create debt that will have to be paid back in the future, and will [[Curse children]] with that debt. Your [[Slothful|slothful]] practice of wanting something for nothing or less than cost will bring your children under [[Bondage]] and [[Tribute]]. They will be bound on earth under new [[Fathers]] as a [[Surety|surety]] for that  debt.  
    
    
The application for a benefit at the expense of your neighbor and your neighbor's children also has a third affect. It makes your children the property or [[Merchandise]]  of the State and subject to the [[gods]] who rule over the business of the State.
The application for a benefit at the expense of your neighbor and your neighbor's children also has a third effect. It makes your children the property or [[Merchandise]]  of the State and subject to the [[gods]] who rule over the business of the State.


* '''"Can you keep a 501c3 as a way to just do regular business, can you pay your taxes but not apply for benefits... and yet be saved...?'''
* '''"Can you keep a 501c3 as a way to just do regular business, can you pay your taxes but not apply for benefits... and yet be saved...?'''
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Latest revision as of 07:05, 27 August 2023

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How would we answer

If someone wanted to do a story on the people of the network and said "It’s all about the unique lifestyles and objectives or destinations or businesses of the [the people], and how their faith in God is leading them to do what they’re doing."

How would we answer them?

My answer might be something like this

Our unique lifestyle is seeking independent living rather than a Socialist approach to society. This may appear in many ways.

We home schooled our children. We often depend on being in business for ourselves rather than employment. Where I live, which is away from the city, allowed for a better environment to raise children. We do not normally seek loans from banks or credit cards if we can help it so our economy is based on what we can afford rather than borrowing to get things now and spend years to pay it back with interest.

While we still seek to be a part of society in service and sacrifice we do not seek to force society to provide for us.

To learn to live by faith, hope and charity like the early Christians rather than forcing our neighbor to provide benefits for us through the agency of government has become unique approach in this modern age but was common when America was becoming a great nation.

Our objective as ministers of Christ is to teach people to take care of one another through love and charity. We do this and teach and serve others while living "in the World but not of it" as Christ said.[1] This creates another unique set of obstacles for ministers of Christ and their families as the World changes around us. Most Modern Christians and their Modern ministers do not understand this because they are very much of the World.

The command to "be ye separate" is first to the ministers of the Church and means to be separate from the ways of society that are contrary to Christ. Socialism is contrary to Christ because he was not a socialist. It is the true Christians and their ministers objective to follow the ways of God like in the days of Moses when the people came out of bondage, in the days of John the Baptist when the people repented of the Corban of the government of Herod and Rome, and shared with the needy in ways that both provided in love and strengthened the poor. Plus finally like Christ who repeated the words of Moses when he said to love one another and thy neighbor as themselves.

Christ called us that we learn to be separate in our ways of living in society while keeping the commandments like not coveting our neighbors goods or forcing them to provide us with care or security.

Caring for one another by Charity had been the way of America. The ministers of the Church are to minister to the people, (meaning both friend and stranger) , and must be separate from systems of force. This is in order to help others conform to Christ which is the destination of the faithful, and the businesses of the Church.


More answers

Since asking this question of the entire network we got some further discussion.

Brother Gregory mentioned: "Our unique lifestyle is seeking independent living rather than a Socialist approach to society. This may appear in many ways. We home schooled our children..."

  • "Can you send your children to public schools but teach them Christ at home and by example"
The power of controlled education?

What is the example you are setting or the message you are sending to your children when you place them in a public school?

We often hear that public education is free but in truth it is very expensive to send your children to Public schools.

The question is who is being required to pay for that education?

Some will say the government is paying for education but in truth the government takes from your neighbor to provide "free" education along with many other benefits.

For hundreds of years most education in America was privately funded and we had one of the highest literacy rates in the world.

Yes, you pay some taxes for this service but not enough to match the expenses for just one child. The money to fund your child's education comes from your neighbor and not as a freewill offering but by forced taxation.

Also if we are willing to think about it honestly almost all governments also borrow against the future labor of the people to provide public benefits. No public benefit is based on charity. No entitlement is provided as an answer to hope and the free will choice of your neighbor.

There are at least two commandments that are violated if not three when you participate in these social schemes and send your children to public school.

First there is thou shalt not covet anything that is thy neighbors. Asking or desiring that the government use its exercising authority to provide you with "free" education for your children is a Covetous_Practices.

Because money is borrowed to provide these benefits there is another violation of the commandment about the Sabbath which most people do not understand. These Covetous_Practices create debt that will have to be paid back in the future, and will Curse children with that debt. Your slothful practice of wanting something for nothing or less than cost will bring your children under Bondage and Tribute. They will be bound on earth under new Fathers as a surety for that debt.

The application for a benefit at the expense of your neighbor and your neighbor's children also has a third effect. It makes your children the property or Merchandise of the State and subject to the gods who rule over the business of the State.

  • "Can you keep a 501c3 as a way to just do regular business, can you pay your taxes but not apply for benefits... and yet be saved...?

We are saved by grace and grace is provided to those who hear and seek to do the will of God. It is God's choice to extend His grace. But what we do is evidence of our faith. Faith without works is dead. So what we do is important because it is a message to us about our personal commitment.

All Churches are considered 501c3 but if you have filled out papers to apply for a status under 501c3 then the IRS is now overseer of your Church institution. The same is true of the commerce department if you incorporate. These things make you or at least what you institute a part of the body of the State and not a part of the body of Christ. The Church is no longer separate.

Not doing those things or just filling out His Holy Churches witness forms does not make you a part of the Body of Christ.[2] Christ holds the right of entry but we know the keys are:

  • Matthew 16:19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

Filling out His Holy Churches witness forms is not binding but loosing. But it is grace that saves.

We also know that if God gives us something and we do not act upon it we may lose it.

"I ... and am learning to be somewhat sensitive to people who have never been taught or whose thinking will not let them consider anything outside of their paradigm. " What will help people think outside their paradigm is when people show them by word and deed that real things can happen if we ourselves step outside for them, first. In other words, if we can form congregations of recorded elders CORE which are providing and benefiting one another, then we might help them who are of little faith.

Then we may also be attending to the Weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith which include caring for the needs of our neighbors and the widows and orphans of our society through Pure Religion in matters of health, education, and welfare. We are NOT to provide for the needy of society through the Covetous Practices and the men who call themselves benefactors but who exercise authority one over the other like the socialists do.

The Way of Christ was like neither the way of the world of Rome nor the governments of the gentiles who depend on those fathers of the earth through force, fear and fealty who deliver the people back in bondage again like they were in Egypt. Christ's ministers and true Christians do not depend upon systems of social welfare that force the contributions of the people like the corban of the Pharisees which made the word of God to none effect. Many people have been deceived to go the way of Balaam and the Nicolaitan and out of The Way of Christ and have become workers of iniquity.

The Christian conflict with Rome in the first century Church appointed by Christ was because they would not apply to the fathers of the earth for their free bread but instead relied upon a voluntary network providing a daily ministration to the needy of society through Faith, Hope, and Charity by way of freewill offerings of the people, for the people, and by the people through the perfect law of liberty in Free Assemblies according to the ancient pattern of Tuns or Tens as He commanded.

The modern Christians are in need of repentance.

"Follow me!" —Jesus the Christ.

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  1. ↑ John 15:19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.
    John 17:14-15 I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.
  2. ↑ Chapter 15. of the book The Covenants of the gods Body of Christ vs the Body of the State
    Audio http://keysofthekingdom.info/COG-15.mp3
    Text http://www.hisholychurch.org/study/gods/cog15bvb.php
  3. ↑ Matthew 20:25-26 But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Ye know that the princes of the Gentiles exercise dominion over them, and they that are great exercise authority upon them. But it shall not be so among you: but whosoever will be great among you, let him be your minister;
    Mark 10:42-43 But Jesus called them to him, and saith unto them, Ye know that they which are accounted to rule over the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and their great ones exercise authority upon them. But so shall it not be among you: but whosoever will be great among you, shall be your minister:
    Luke 22:25-26 And he said unto them, The kings of the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and they that exercise authority upon them are called benefactors. But ye shall not be so: but he that is greatest among you, let him be as the younger; and he that is chief, as he that doth serve.


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