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Who is the real Jesus? This article shows just some of the distinction between the early Church and modern Christians. The modern Christian think they know Jesus like the Pharisees thought they knew Moses
Εν αρχή ην ο λόγος, "In the beginning was the Word"[1] that word was made flesh and according to many Jews at that time He was considered to be the Messiah, (Maschiach in Hebrew) = the Anointed One, the Chosen One = the Christ, χρίσμα in Greek or ΙησουΣ ΧριστοΣ, which is Greek for Jesus the Christ or Yeshua the Anointed One. Philo of Alexandria seems to be the first to associate the phrase "ο λόγος"(The logos) which could be translated the reason being Right Reason or in Hebrew might appear as Wisdom (ChetKafMemHey חָכְמָה)[2]. We see this in Jeremiah 10:12 and Jeremiah 51:15 as בְּחָכְמָת֑וֹ bə-ḥā-ḵə-mā-ṯōw BeitHeyKafMemTavVav or “by His Wisdom” "and at His discretion" or "by His understanding" וּבִתְבוּנָת֖וֹ ū-ḇiṯ-ḇū-nā-ṯōw VavBeitTavBeitVavNunTavVav "has stretched out" or "has extended the heavens" from what we call the spiritual realms. Using this "wisdom" God brings forth creation in Psalms 104:24 and 30.
There is another word for wisdom from a Hebrew word said to mean "substantiate" tuwshiyah[3]


Personal relationship with Jesus

Do you have a personal relationship with Jesus?

This is a question often asked by modern Christians who think they have just such a relationship and they religiously clink to that belief that their relationship is genuine.

Of course, many of the Pharisees and Zealots thought they had a similar relationship with God and the teachings of Moses.

This sweet sounding phrase, like Born again, has a number of elements and ideas that we may need to be properly define in order to answer the question truthfully:

Personal. Of or relating to a particular person; while the word Person is applied to men, women and children.
Relationship. Synonyms include a connection or interconnection, association or interdependence, an affair or amorous entanglement or even a flirtation.
As a term it has been defined as "the way in which two or more people or groups regard and behave toward each other."
Jesus is the most important element of this commonly recited phrase or claim. But their are many images of Jesus created in peoples mind that may be far from the real Jesus.

Many people say they love Jesus but Jesus said there will people who say that but are actually workers of iniquity.[4]

What is the psychology behind a personal relationship with Jesus?

And how do you know that personal relationship is with the real Jesus and not one that has been imagined or conjured out of the the doctrines of men?

How do you know that you are not under a strong delusion?

What can help us know if we are a part of the groups that deceived as spoken of by Christ.

This relationship that is often claimed by many to be a personal relationship with Jesus can give us a feeling of a meaning and purpose to life. This can improve emotions, hormone levels and eliminate or reduce debilitating or detrimental stress.

It is true that the phrase "personal relationship with Jesus" is not in the Bible, but every "personal" relationship with anyone must be mutual. The words "individual" and "private" may apply but since Jesus as LORD is integral and essential the claim should be accompanied by an unbiased conformity to His doctrine reinforced  by words and deeds that would give evidence of that  relationship in practice. 

We should remember that the relationship, if genuinely with Christ and His Holy Spirit it should produce evidence of spiritual fruit and a conformity with the doctrine of Jesus according to the will of God the Father.

Any such genuine relationship with the Real Jesus may clearly lead to a mutual rejection of the Fathers of the earth and their reward of unrighteousness. There also be an opening of the eyes, an embracing of the light which will reveal the iniquity of the world at its covetous practices.

Elements of a personal relationship

The profession of a personal relationship often involves numerous ideas and concepts that upon examination can clarify the truth of such a claim.

1. Trusting Jesus as the LORD over your life on a daily basis and living in a way that is defined by him. 

2. Communicating with Jesus can be real or part of a delusion with Jesus as an imaginary friend.   3. Prayer as a practice may be a continuous recognition of a superior source beyond ourselves because it may suggest a subordinate position. But it also can become a part of a delussion that "our God" is superior and therefore we are superior. This may appear as a holler than thou attitude.

4. Service is serving God and others. This brings religious service or worship service into the conversation. Religion has previously been defined as [....]

5. Repentance is  commonly listed as an element of that personal relationship but has also been mistakenly been identified as being sorry for bad action as we see in the phrase, "Repenting of sins and asking Jesus to forgive."

While we may be sorry "repentance" is thinking differently and would in this case would include thinking like Jesus. By examining Jesus and his doctrine we may perceive if we do or do not think like Jesus.  [....]

6. Union with Christ should include Believing that Christ or His Holy Spirit dwells in the heart of believers, and that believers abide in the heart of Christ. 

Again the truth of that should be detectable by comparing what people say with what they do.

  7. Interpersonal relationship: Having an interpersonal relationship with the Body of Christ, which includes other believers.   

Jesus the savior

Has Jesus saved you?

Is the real Jesus your savior?

Who is the real Jesus?

The real Jesus warned that many would be deceived about knowing Him and He knowing them.[5]

Augustus Caesar was also called the "savior" and the "Son of God".

Christian were persecuted because they said there was another King one Jesus and did not trust nor have faith in the genius of Caesar.[6]

Who is the real Jesus?

Did He die for your sins?

We are told in the Gospel of John[7] that God sent His son that we might be saved.

Jesus told us many things that we might be saved.[8]

The word "MIGHT"[9] suggests that Jesus did what he came to do but some might not be saved simply because they say they love Jesus as their Lord.[10]

Can you be saved if you do not follow the Doctrines of Jesus?

Is He really your savior if you have not repented?[11]

Is He really your Lord if you do not do what he said?[4]

Could you be deceived[12] about what you believe about what the Doctrines of Jesus real are?

Do you really have faith if you are not seeking the dominion and righteousness of God?[13]

Not doers

People who are not doers of the word may not be believers in the real Jesus.

Jesus makes it clear that "many" will think they love Him but have been deceived into believing in a false image of Jesus. These self deceived people will be told that they should get away from Him because he never knew them except as workers of iniquity.

How do we know that we are not one of those "many"?[14]

People might be deceived because of unrighteous practices and lack of love for the truth.[15]

He also told us that if we did not forgive then His Father would not forgive us.[16]

So it is not automatic that we are forgiven nor saved.

Jesus also told us to seek the Righteousness of God and that many would think they came in His name but would be told to get away from Him because they were in fact Workers of Iniquity and not Doers of the Word. Like the Pharisees before them they will be under the delusion that they have their eyes on Jesus but in truth they do not even know him. We know this because they are not bearing Fruit worthy of those who truly repent.

The modern Christian is often not doing what Christ told us to be doing. They are doing the very things that Christ condemned the Pharisees for doing.

  1. John 1:1-2 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God." This was clearly a reference to Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
  2. 02451 חָכְמָה‎ chokmah ChetKafMemHey[khok-maw’] from 02449 chakam wise; n f; [BDB-315a] [{See TWOT on 647 @@ "647a" }] AV-wisdom 145, wisely 2, skilful man 1, wits 1; 149
    1) wisdom
    1a) skill (in war)
    1b) wisdom (in administration)
    1c) shrewdness, wisdom
    1d) wisdom, prudence (in religious affairs)
    1e) wisdom (ethical and religious)
    • ח Chet The Life Force - Dynamic nature of - cause and effect - give life and live.[fence, thread, hedge, chamber...cycle] (Numeric value: 8)
    • כ ך Kaf K Crown: To Actualize Potential power from spiritual to physical realm [to cover, strength] (Numeric value: 20)
    • מ ם Mem Fountain of water, a flow, a fountain of the Divine Wisdom [massive, overpower chaos] (Numeric value: 40)
    • ה Hey Expression--Thought, Speech, Action. Manifest seeds of thought and life. [Emphasize, jubilation, window, fence] (Numeric value: 5)
  3. 08454 תּוּשִׁיָּה‎ tuwshiyah TavVavShinYodHey [too-shee-yaw’] or תשׁיה‎ tushiyah TavShinYodHey [too-shee-yaw’]from an unused root probably meaning to substantiate; n f; [BDB-444b] [{See TWOT on 923 @@ "923a" }] AV-wisdom 7, enterprise 1, thing as it is 1, that which is 1, substance 1, working 1; 12
    1) wisdom, sound knowledge, success, sound or efficient wisdom, abiding success
    1a) sound or efficient wisdom
    1b) abiding success (of the effect of sound wisdom)
  4. 4.0 4.1 Workers of Iniquity
    Proverbs 30:20 "Such is the way of an adulterous woman; she eateth, and wipeth her mouth, and saith, I have done <06466> no wickedness <0205>.
    Isaiah 31:2 "Yet he also is wise, and will bring evil<07451רַע‎>, and will not call back his words: but will arise against the house of the evildoers <07489רָעַע‎>, and against the help of them that work <06466> iniquity <0205>.
    Hosea 6:8 "Gilead is a city of them that work <06466> iniquity <0205>, and is polluted with blood."
    Micah 2:1 "Woe to them that devise <02803ChetShinBeit> iniquity <0205>, and work <06466> evil <07451רַע‎> upon their beds! when the morning is light, they practise it, because it is in the power of their hand.
    Luke 13:25-27 “‭25 When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are: ‭26 Then shall ye begin to say, We have eaten and drunk in thy presence, and thou hast taught in our streets. ‭27 But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity. 28 There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you [yourselves] thrust out.”
    Matthew 7:22 "Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity."
    Matthew 25:12 "But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not... 41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed<2672>, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:... 44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee? 45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me."
    John 13:13 "Ye call me Master and Lord: and ye say well; for [so] I am. 14 If I then, [your] Lord and Master, have washed your feet; ye also ought to wash one another’s feet. 15 For I have given you an example, that ye should do as I have done to you. 16 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord; neither he that is sent greater than he that sent him. 17 If ye know these things, happy are ye if ye do them."
    Galatians 6:7 "Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap."
  5. Lord, Lord
    • Matthew 7:20 "Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. 21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. 24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: 25 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock. 26 And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand:"
    • Matthew 25:11 "Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us. 12 But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not. 13 Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh."
    Matthew 25:26 "His lord answered and said unto him, [Thou] wicked and slothful servant, thou knewest ... Take therefore the talent from him..."
    Matthew 25:44 "Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee? 45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did [it] not to one of the least of these, ye did [it] not to me."
    • Luke 6:46 "And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say? 47 Whosoever cometh to me, and heareth my sayings, and doeth them, I will shew you to whom he is like: 48 He is like a man which built an house, and digged deep, and laid the foundation on a rock: and when the flood arose, the stream beat vehemently upon that house, and could not shake it: for it was founded upon a rock. 49 But he that heareth, and doeth not, is like a man that without a foundation built an house upon the earth; against which the stream did beat vehemently, and immediately it fell; and the ruin of that house was great."
    • Luke 13:25 "When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are: 26 Then shall ye begin to say, We have eaten and drunk in thy presence, and thou hast taught in our streets. 27 But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all [ye] workers of iniquity. 28 There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you [yourselves] thrust out."
    • John 13:13 "Ye call me Master and Lord: and ye say well; for [so] I am. 14 If I then, [your] Lord and Master, have washed your feet; ye also ought to wash one another’s feet. 15 For I have given you an example, that ye should do as I have done to you. 16 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord; neither he that is sent greater than he that sent him. 17 If ye know these things, happy are ye if ye do them."
    • Galatians 6:7 "Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap."
  6. See the trial of Christians
  7. John 3:17 For God sent not His Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
  8. John 5:34 But I receive not testimony from man: but these things I say, that ye might be saved.
  9. Romans 10:1 Brethren, my heart’s desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.
    1 Thessalonians 2:16 Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins alway: for the wrath is come upon them to the uttermost.
  10. Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
    Matthew 25:11 Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us. But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not.
    Luke 6:46 And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?
    Luke 13:25 When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are:
  11. : Matthew 3:2 And saying, Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.
    Matthew 4:17 From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.
    Mark 1:15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.
    Mark 6:12 And they went out, and preached that men should repent.
    Luke 13:3 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.
    Luke 13:5 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.
    Luke 17:3 Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him. 4 And if he trespass against thee seven times in a day, and seven times in a day turn again to thee, saying, I repent; thou shalt forgive him.
  12. Matthew 24:4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. 5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
    Matthew 24:11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
    Matthew 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if [it were] possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
    Matthew 27:63 Saying, Sir, we remember that that deceiver said, while he was yet alive, After three days I will rise again.
    Mark 13:5 And Jesus answering them began to say, Take heed lest any [man] deceive you:
    Mark 13:6 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am [Christ]; and shall deceive many.
    Luke 21:8 And he said, Take heed that ye be not deceived: for many shall come in my name, saying, I am [Christ]; and the time draweth near: go ye not therefore after them.
    John 7:12 And there was much murmuring among the people concerning him: for some said, He is a good man: others said, Nay; but he deceiveth the people.
    John 7:47 Then answered them the Pharisees, Are ye also deceived?
  13. : Matthew 6:33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.
    Luke 12:31 But rather seek ye the kingdom of God; and all these things shall be added unto you.
  14. Matthew 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
    Matthew 24:5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many. And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity... 24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:
  15. 2 Thessalonians 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
  16. Matthew 6:14 For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you:
    Matthew 6:15 But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.
    Matthew 18:35 So likewise shall my heavenly Father do also unto you, if ye from your hearts forgive not every one his brother their trespasses.
    Mark 11:25 And when ye stand praying, forgive, if ye have ought against any: that your Father also which is in heaven may forgive you your trespasses.
    Mark 11:26 But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses.