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Were Peter and John ''unlearned'' and ''ignorant'' or is Acts 4:13<Ref name="apearunlearned"></Ref> talking about something else?<Br>
Were Peter and John ''unlearned'' and ''ignorant'' or is Acts 4:13<Ref name="apearunlearned"></Ref> talking about something else? The Greek word used in the verse is ''agrammatos''<Ref name="agrammatos">{{62}}</Ref> which is only used once.<Br>
The English word ''unlearned'' appears numerous times in the New Testament Bible.<Ref name="apearunlearned">[[Acts 4]]:13  Now when they saw the boldness of Peter and John, and perceived that they were unlearned<[[62]]> and ignorant men, they marvelled; and they took knowledge of them, that they had been with Jesus.
The English word ''unlearned'' appears numerous times in the New Testament Bible.<Ref name="apearunlearned">[[Acts 4]]:13  Now when they saw the boldness of Peter and John, and perceived that they were unlearned<[[62]]> and ignorant men, they marvelled; and they took knowledge of them, that they had been with Jesus.
: [[1 Corinthians 14]]:16  Else when thou shalt bless with the spirit, how shall he that occupieth the room of the unlearned<[[2399]]> say Amen at thy giving of thanks, seeing he understandeth not what thou sayest?
: [[1 Corinthians 14]]:16  Else when thou shalt bless with the spirit, how shall he that occupieth the room of the unlearned<[[2399]]> say Amen at thy giving of thanks, seeing he understandeth not what thou sayest?
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: [[2 Peter 3]]:16  As also in all [his] epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned<[[261]]> and unstable wrest, as [they do] also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.</Ref>
: [[2 Peter 3]]:16  As also in all [his] epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned<[[261]]> and unstable wrest, as [they do] also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.</Ref>


Audio file answering the question "Are Christians Idiots" from Blog Talk Radio<Br>
We also see the word unlearned in [[1 Corinthians 14]]<Ref name="apearunlearned"></Ref> but it is the Greek word we see three times is ''idiotes''<Ref name="idiotes">{{2399}}</Ref>.
http://hisholychurch.net/audio/2011btr-christianidiots2241435.mp3
 
There are two more Greek words translated unlearned in the New Testament. There is the negative word ''apaideutos''<Ref name="apaideutos">{{521}}</Ref> which appears one time in [[2 Timothy 2]]:23<Ref name="apearunlearned"></Ref>.
 
The other  is another negative Greek word ''amathes''<Ref name="amathes">{{261}}</Ref> from the Greek word ''manthano''<Ref name="manthano">{{3129}}</Ref>  translated ''unlearned'' in the New Testament. There is the negative word ''apaideutos''which appears one time in [[2 Timothy 2]]:23<Ref name="apearunlearned"></Ref>. ''amathes''<Ref name="amathes">{{261}}</Ref> only appears in [[2 Peter 3]]:16.<Ref name="apearunlearned"></Ref>
 
Are there really so many different words meaning specifically ''unlearned'' or can the context within the text and the [[Gospel of the kingdom]] tell us more?
 
 
[[Early Christians]] and the [[early Church]] worked in harmony according to the character of Christ, which is to say they came together in the [[name]] of [[Christ]]. They did this so that they were able to provide for one another in [[charity]] through a [[daily ministration]] and in the ''hard times'' that swept across the Roman Empire in what the testament calls "[[dearth]]s".
 
They were all under the commandment to love one another from the time of [[Moses]] through [[Christ]] but they did not participate in the [[free bread]] or  [[Welfare|welfare]] offered by [[Rome]] nor as we see the [[Pharisees]] doing with their [[Corban]] which Jesus had condemned.
 
The [[Pharisees]] had chosen [[Caesar]]'s ways to [[care]] for the needy of [[society]] and depended upon that [[Governments|government]] and its rulers who called themselves [[Benefactors]] but [[exercise authority]] one over the other. Christ had forbid such [[covetous practices]] and the apostles and their testaments were full of similar [[warnings]] and admonitions.
 
Even the Old Testaments had warned us about the ''dainties'' and [[benefits]] of rulers becoming a [[trap]] and a [[snare]]. David was quoted by Paul concerning the [[tables]] of those men being offered as [[welfare]] and Peter told us they would make us "[[merchandise]]"and eventually [[curse children]].
 
The Christians were not involved in the [[public religion|public affairs of welfare]] of the [[Pharisees]] nor of the [[public religion]] of [[Rome]]. [[Early Christians]] were persecuted by [[Marcus Aurelius]] because they did not [[Birth registration|register the birth of their children]]. There were generations by that time that were never registered with Caesar to get the [[benefits]] of his [[world]]. Christians were involved in public affairs of [[Christ]] ''working daily in the temple'' which we explain in detail.
 
The temple in Jerusalem, the same as those [[temples]] of Rome, were the center of their social [[Welfare|welfare]] systems. There has always been two [[Welfare types|types of welfare]] systems which lead the people in opposite directions.
 
Those first souls to repent and begin to seek the government of God got the [[Baptism]] of John and eventually the [[Baptism]] of Christ's [[apostles]]. These people would eventually be called Christians because they had opted out of a social [[Welfare|welfare]] system that had [[snare]]d the people under the authority of [[Herod]]'s welfare state and the [[Corban]] of the [[Pharisees]] which was making the word of God to none effect.
 
But far more important because the repented and did what Christ [[commanded]] they had become a part of the network of [[Tens]] that reached across the Roman Empire and beyond.
 
[[Christians]] had ''another king, one Jesus'', and were standing fast in the [[perfect law of liberty]] instituted by Christ through His apostles whom had [[appoint]]ed a kingdom to.  


Christians provided for one another in [[charity]] and did not participate in the free bread [[Welfare|welfare]] of [[Rome]] nor as we see the [[Pharisees]] doing with their [[Corban]] which Jesus condemned. The Pharisees had chosen Caesar's ways to [[care]] for the needy of [[society]] and depended upon [[Governments|government]] as their [[Benefactors]]. The Christians were not involved in the [[public religion|public affairs]] of the [[Pharisees]] nor of the [[public religion]] of [[Rome]]. Christians were involved in public affairs of [[Christ]] ''working daily in the temple'' which we explain below.
But that kingdom was not like the kingdoms of the gentiles who [[exercise authority|exercised authority]] one over the other. Christ made it clear that his kingdom was at hand and it was not a part of the [[world]] of [[Pontius Pilate]].


The temple in Jerusalem, the same as those [[temples]] of Rome, were the center of their social [[Welfare|welfare]]. Those who got the [[Baptism]] of John and the Baptism of Christ's apostles, who were eventually called Christians, had opted out of a social [[Welfare|welfare]] system that had [[snare]]d the people under the authority of [[Herod]]'s welfare state.
The [[persecution]] of Christians by public magistrates was often based on [[Christian conflict|their refusal to participate]] in the [[temples]]' welfare systems of Rome. They did not apply for the "[[legal charity]]" of the [[Imperial Cult of Rome]] but practiced [[Pure Religion]] by [[faith]], [[hope]], and [[charity]] as God has always intended.  


[[Christians]] had ''another king, one Jesus'', and were standing fast in the [[perfect law of liberty]] instituted by Christ through His apostles whom had appointed a kingdom to. But that kingdom was not like the kingdoms of the gentiles who [[exercise authority|exercised authority]] one over the other. The [[persecution]] of Christians by public magistrates was often based on [[Christian conflict|their refusal to participate]] in the temple welfare systems of Rome.  
If the people will [[repent]] and [[seek]] the [[kingdom of God]] and His [[righteousness]] which is [[the way]] of [[Christ]] they will turn from the way of [[Cain]], [[Nimrod]], [[Pharaoh]]s and [[Caesar]]s that brought the [[bondage of Egypt]]. To accept the idea that it is okay to [[force]] one another to contribute to your personal [[welfare]] is to accept the idea that it is okay to [[bite]] one another is an [[appetite]] for the [[Plutarch|gifts gratuities and grants]] which destroy liberty. The  which we should avoid even if we must put a "[[knife|knife" to your own throat]]. This idea of us all having [[one purse]] has always caused the people to ''run toward death''. When the "'''[[masses]]''' continue with an [[appetite]] for [[benefits]] and the habit of receiving them by way of a rule of force]]" the tyrants will rise up and the people and the [[social bonds]] needed to restrain them will be weakened like in the days of [[Sodom]].


Learn more about what it meant to be a Christian and the [[Christian conflict|conflict]] between Christians and the people of the [[World|world]] by reading and listening to the links above or Join the Living [[Network]].
Learn more about what it meant to be a Christian and the [[Christian conflict|conflict]] between Christians and the people of the [[World|world]] by reading and listening to the links above or Join the Living [[Network]].
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'''Audio file''' answering the question "Are Christians Idiots" from Blog Talk Radio<Br>
http://hisholychurch.net/audio/2011btr-christianidiots2241435.mp3
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Latest revision as of 16:40, 13 January 2022

Unlearned

Were Peter and John unlearned and ignorant or is Acts 4:13[1] talking about something else? The Greek word used in the verse is agrammatos[2] which is only used once.
The English word unlearned appears numerous times in the New Testament Bible.[1]

We also see the word unlearned in 1 Corinthians 14[1] but it is the Greek word we see three times is idiotes[3].

There are two more Greek words translated unlearned in the New Testament. There is the negative word apaideutos[4] which appears one time in 2 Timothy 2:23[1].

The other is another negative Greek word amathes[5] from the Greek word manthano[6] translated unlearned in the New Testament. There is the negative word apaideutoswhich appears one time in 2 Timothy 2:23[1]. amathes[5] only appears in 2 Peter 3:16.[1]

Are there really so many different words meaning specifically unlearned or can the context within the text and the Gospel of the kingdom tell us more?


Early Christians and the early Church worked in harmony according to the character of Christ, which is to say they came together in the name of Christ. They did this so that they were able to provide for one another in charity through a daily ministration and in the hard times that swept across the Roman Empire in what the testament calls "dearths".

They were all under the commandment to love one another from the time of Moses through Christ but they did not participate in the free bread or welfare offered by Rome nor as we see the Pharisees doing with their Corban which Jesus had condemned.

The Pharisees had chosen Caesar's ways to care for the needy of society and depended upon that government and its rulers who called themselves Benefactors but exercise authority one over the other. Christ had forbid such covetous practices and the apostles and their testaments were full of similar warnings and admonitions.

Even the Old Testaments had warned us about the dainties and benefits of rulers becoming a trap and a snare. David was quoted by Paul concerning the tables of those men being offered as welfare and Peter told us they would make us "merchandise"and eventually curse children.

The Christians were not involved in the public affairs of welfare of the Pharisees nor of the public religion of Rome. Early Christians were persecuted by Marcus Aurelius because they did not register the birth of their children. There were generations by that time that were never registered with Caesar to get the benefits of his world. Christians were involved in public affairs of Christ working daily in the temple which we explain in detail.

The temple in Jerusalem, the same as those temples of Rome, were the center of their social welfare systems. There has always been two types of welfare systems which lead the people in opposite directions.

Those first souls to repent and begin to seek the government of God got the Baptism of John and eventually the Baptism of Christ's apostles. These people would eventually be called Christians because they had opted out of a social welfare system that had snared the people under the authority of Herod's welfare state and the Corban of the Pharisees which was making the word of God to none effect.

But far more important because the repented and did what Christ commanded they had become a part of the network of Tens that reached across the Roman Empire and beyond.

Christians had another king, one Jesus, and were standing fast in the perfect law of liberty instituted by Christ through His apostles whom had appointed a kingdom to.

But that kingdom was not like the kingdoms of the gentiles who exercised authority one over the other. Christ made it clear that his kingdom was at hand and it was not a part of the world of Pontius Pilate.

The persecution of Christians by public magistrates was often based on their refusal to participate in the temples' welfare systems of Rome. They did not apply for the "legal charity" of the Imperial Cult of Rome but practiced Pure Religion by faith, hope, and charity as God has always intended.

If the people will repent and seek the kingdom of God and His righteousness which is the way of Christ they will turn from the way of Cain, Nimrod, Pharaohs and Caesars that brought the bondage of Egypt. To accept the idea that it is okay to force one another to contribute to your personal welfare is to accept the idea that it is okay to bite one another is an appetite for the gifts gratuities and grants which destroy liberty. The which we should avoid even if we must put a "knife" to your own throat. This idea of us all having one purse has always caused the people to run toward death. When the "masses continue with an appetite for benefits and the habit of receiving them by way of a rule of force]]" the tyrants will rise up and the people and the social bonds needed to restrain them will be weakened like in the days of Sodom.

Learn more about what it meant to be a Christian and the conflict between Christians and the people of the world by reading and listening to the links above or Join the Living Network.



Audio file answering the question "Are Christians Idiots" from Blog Talk Radio
http://hisholychurch.net/audio/2011btr-christianidiots2241435.mp3


  1. 1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 1.4 1.5 Acts 4:13 Now when they saw the boldness of Peter and John, and perceived that they were unlearned<62> and ignorant men, they marvelled; and they took knowledge of them, that they had been with Jesus.
    1 Corinthians 14:16 Else when thou shalt bless with the spirit, how shall he that occupieth the room of the unlearned<2399> say Amen at thy giving of thanks, seeing he understandeth not what thou sayest?
    1 Corinthians 14:23 If therefore the whole church be come together into one place, and all speak with tongues, and there come in [those that are] unlearned<2399>, or unbelievers, will they not say that ye are mad?
    1 Corinthians 14:24 But if all prophesy, and there come in one that believeth not, or [one] unlearned<2399>, he is convinced of all, he is judged of all:
    2 Timothy 2:23 But foolish and unlearned<521> questions avoid, knowing that they do gender strifes.
    2 Peter 3:16 As also in all [his] epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned<261> and unstable wrest, as [they do] also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
  2. 62 ~ἀγράμματος~ agrammatos \@ag-ram-mat-os\@ from 1 (as negative particle) and 1121; ; adj AV-unlearned 1; 1
    1) illiterate, unlearned, without learning, unlettered {#Ac 4:13}
  3. 2399 ~ἰδιώτης~ idiotes \@id-ee-o’-tace\@ from 2398; TDNT-3:215,348; {See TDNT 322} n m AV-unlearned 3, ignorant 1, rude 1; 5
    1) a private person as opposed to a magistrate, ruler, king
    2) a common soldier, as opposed to a military officer
    3) a writer of prose as opposed to a poet
    4) in the NT, an unlearned, illiterate, man as opposed to the learned and educated: one who is unskilled in any art
  4. 521 ~ἀπαίδευτος~ apaideutos \@ap-ah’-ee-dyoo-tos\@ from 1 (as a negative particle) and a derivative of 3811; TDNT-5:596,753; {See TDNT 579} adj AV-unlearned 1; 1
    1) without instruction, and disciple, uneducated, ignorant, rude
  5. 5.0 5.1 261 ~ἀμαθής~ amathes \@am-ath-ace’\@ from 1 (as a negative particle) and 3129; ; adj AV-unlearned 1 (2 Peter 3:16 ) ; 1 1) unlearned, ignorant
  6. 3129 ~μανθάνω~ manthano \@man-than’-o\@ prolongation from a primary verb, another form of which, matheo, is used as an alternate in certain tenses; TDNT-4:390,552; {See TDNT 464} v AV-learn 24, understand 1; 25
    1) to learn, be appraised
    1a) to increase one’s knowledge, to be increased in knowledge
    1b) to hear, be informed
    1c) to learn by use and practice
    1c1) to be in the habit of, accustomed to
    see also 521 apaideutos, 62 agrammatos, and 2399 idiotes from 2398 idios, [3]