Talk:Pentecost

Being a peculiar people means to be uniquely different than the people of the world by going The Way of Christ who came to serve. He also appointed a kingdom that operated by faith, hope, and charity rather than fealty, force, and fear. This can be seen in the prohibition concering benefactors, wages of unrighteousness, covetous practices, and Pure Religion.

Confusion Artis 9

Original Question

On the day of Pentecost there were about 13 different countries represented and 3000 people got saved. What do you suppose their gatherings looked like when everyone went home?

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My first responce to this question was:
What changed for Christians at Pentecost?

What did they repent of?

Those who actually believed in Jesus as the Christ, repented of the "public religion" set up by Herod and the Pharisees through their version of Corban.

When people received the Baptism of Christ at Pentecost they were "put out" of the system of Corban that was making the word of God to none effect.

The people by necessity needed to immediately organize congregations through a Charitable network of servant ministers and the elders of families in patterns of companies of tens in ranks of fifty and ranks of a hundred as Christ "commanded". Gathering in this living network of free assemblies allowed the Christian community to care for one another in a daily ministration of charity without depending upon the "fathers of the earth" and their "covetous practices" of "legal charity" provided by the "welfare State".

http://preparingyou.com/wiki/Pentecost

To which Paul Y... responded:
Gregory Williams they would have repented of what most church people do when they finally realize the gospel is personally for them. The "I can do it" syndrome. The "I know how to please God from my own resources" idea like Cain did. Also, the "I know what Messiah will be like when he comes" belief.

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Paul Y... responded to the original question:
They would have looked like family groups alive with the life of God. They would have (hopefully) listened to the Spirit of God making scripture come alive as they spoke and heard the word of God. They probably would have continued in their local synagogues as well.

I explained:
Paul Y... we know they would not have continued in their local synogoges because it was decreed that they would be put out. "These words spake his parents, because they feared the Jews: for the Jews had agreed already, that if any man did confess that he was Christ, he should be put out of the synagogue." John 9:22 http://preparingyou.com/wiki/Put_out

I also posted:
Paul Y... But you are right to say "what most church people do" which is the same as the " idea like Cain". Jesus was clear that we should "seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness;". The "Corban of the Pharisees" was not righteous and neither are the "covetous practices" of the people of the "world" who desire to "bite one another" to obtain the "rewards of unrighteousness" but call themselves Christians while still being "workers of iniquity". http://preparingyou.com/wiki/Covetous_Practices

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Paul Y... what they repented of was the covetous practices of the Pharisees which was their Corban. http://preparingyou.com/wiki/Corban

To which Paul Y... responded:
Gregory Williams good point for the synagogue in Nazareth. We read of Paul twenty or more years later with Barnabas going into the local synagogue, often for several weeks before they were asked to leave. The great rift at the siege of Jerusalem was that Jews accused their fellow Jews who believed in Jesus as Messiah of forsaking the Jewish nation. When we read of ten thousands of believers in Jesus living in the Jerusalem area, we can't say that every synagogue in any city in the then known world had locked it's doors and were carrying out a purge against any and every believer. The warnings were for the occasion when it did happen and we know that it did.

I explained further:
Paul Y... The rule to be put out was a universal decree to all the synagogues that were signed up, registered, with the temple of Herod in Jerusalem.

People seem to be missing that Jesus Christ was king and at Pentecost His followers found the courage to stand for Him as the Christ, the anointed king of Judea, the remnant of the kingdom of Israel.

Rome had accepted Christ as the king when Pontius Pilates the governor of Judea sent by Tiberius Caesar write an official proclamation in three languages. John 19:19 "And Pilate wrote a title, and put [it] on the cross. And the writing was, JESUS OF NAZARETH THE KING OF THE JEWS."

This imperial proclamation written on ebony wood and plaster was an official recognition that Jesus was the KING OF THE JEWS

The Pharisees objected to this and even wanted it removed. John 19:21 "Then said the chief priests of the Jews to Pilate, Write not, The King of the Jews; but that he said, I am King of the Jews." But Pontius Pilate would not. John 19:22 "Pilate answered, What I have written I have written."

This of course meant on Pentecost the Apostles and the 120 in the upper room were now the servant representative of the kingdom appointed to them as the little flock.

Luke 12:32 "Fear not, little flock; for it is your Father’s good pleasure to give you the kingdom." Which he did.

Luke 22:29 "And I appoint unto you a kingdom, as my Father hath appointed unto me;"

He needed to because he was going to take the kingdom from the Pharisees because their Corban was not bearing fruit. Matthew 21:43 "Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof." He accomplished this by the words of their own mouth. John 19:15 "But they cried out, Away with [him], away with [him], crucify him. Pilate saith unto them, Shall I crucify your King? The chief priests answered, We have no king but Caesar."

Because they were the called out Ekklesia and appointed a kingdom recognized by Rome through the Roman governor appointed by Caesar they took over the duties of "returning everyman to his family and to his possessions" they were able to work daily in the temple rightly dividing the bread from house to house. Acts 2:46 "And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart".

The social safety net of Christ, was not like the one offered through the synagogues of the Pharisees which the parents of the blind man were were afraid to lose. Christians cared for one another in a "daily ministration" of "Pure Religion" which made the word of God to effect again because His followers instituted the Corban of Christ which operated by faith, hope, and charity and the perfect law of liberty.

There were still the "synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie;" that tried to use the Corban of the Pharisees but it would eventually fail. There are always those who are willing to engage in covetous practices that use force, fear, and fealty and the men who call themselves benefactors but "exercise authority one over the other" to provide the tables of the Welfare State. We know, or should know, that those institutions of forced offerings are a "snare" according to David and Paul, and according to Peter they will make you "merchandise" and "curse children".

The benefits offered by men who exercise authority on those "table of devils" we were told to not eat of. They are the "wages of unrighteousness" or the "dainties of rulers which are deceitful meats" and are not the table of the Lord.

The Modern Church has no such daily ministration based only on charity which is pure Religion but neither do the Home Churches. They all go to men who "exercise authority one over the other" even though Christ said it was "not to be that way" with his followers.

That Covetousness, sloth, and avarice at the expense of your neighbor is what everyone need to repent of and should have repented of at Pentecost.

That is what made Christians a peculiar people.