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Description*ZEITGEIST REFUTED* (2010): Pagan Jesus Myth Debunked - *Full Length Documentary Mirror*______Time 1:57:14

Zeitgeist

Zeitgeist means "the defining spirit or mood of a particular period of history as shown by the ideas and beliefs of the time."

Zeitgeist Refuted is a documentary film in response to the bold claims made in Peter Joseph's Zeitgeist the movie concerning the Christian faith. This film examines the similarities and differences of pagan religions according to history and scholarly opinion. Additionally, it explores the historicity of Jesus.

Also discussed are the Jesus Myth Theory and Astrotheology. The viewer will also see a critique of the works of Zeitgeist sources cited in the Zeitgeist bibliography such as Acharya S, Gerald Massey and Jordan Maxwell. This documentary exposes the Freemasonry, Theosophy and New Age influence on Zeitgeist and the Zeitgeist Movement. Directed by Elliott Nesch, 2010

https://youtu.be/A_YoW-Nbo6c

Jesus vs. Mithra

Description Jesus vs. Mithra... Was Jesus based on the Persian God Mithra? Many on the internet seem to think so, and this video addresses this claim. _Time 4:40

Jesus vs. Mithra... Was Jesus based on the Persian God Mithra? Many on the internet seem to think so, and this video addresses this claim.

https://youtu.be/muM7Uk40iRE

Piso and the Flavian Myth

Caesar's Messiah is a 2006 book of speculative non-fiction by Joseph Atwill, which argues that the New Testament Gospels were written as wartime propaganda by scholars connected to the Roman imperial court of the Flavian emperors: Vespasian, Titus and Domitian.

The Joseph Atwill's Piso/Flavian theory falls apart as soon as you find out what the character and mission of men like Moses and Jesus really was. They agreed with each other but the Pharisees did not agree with Jesus because they did not know him.

Most of the early Church were actually Jews. Like the Church in the wilderness they were actually performing services for the people cast out of the Corban of Judea which Jesus had strongly objected to.

John the Baptist opposed Herod the Great's system of temple welfare which depended on forced offerings rather than the freewill offerings promoted by Moses.

If the Flavians wrote the Bible why would Jesus criticize the Corban of the Pharisees and Herod which was identical to the Qorban of Rome?

Jesus warned the people to call no man father because the Roman emperors were called Patronus and the Senators of Rome were called conscripti patri.

Why would Flavius have Jesus commanding his people to "Swear not"?[1]

Or why would they write that James said "But above all things, my brethren, swear not, neither by heaven, neither by the earth, neither by any other oath: but let your yea be yea; and [your] nay, nay; lest ye fall into condemnation." James 5:12

These prohibitions against oaths and swearing would not be a part of the Flavian policies since an "Oath of Fidelity" was required by Vespasian, Titus and Domitian.

During the Second Persecution, under Domitian, A.D. 81, persecutions among the Christians would bring death by order of their magistrates who commonly were addressed as gods required a "test oath" to prove innocents. Modern Christians do not know why they called these men gods. Likewise, modern Christians don't understand who their actual gods are today.

While those emperors took oaths themselves to be High-priests of their nation Jesus did not, according to Hebrews 7:20 "And inasmuch as not without an oath [he was made priest]:"

It is only a lack of understanding of Jesus and The Way that allows anyone to accept Atwill's premise of a Flavian authorship. If Modern Christians would fully repent and seek the kingdom of God and His righteousness with their whole heart, mind and soul they could not be seduced by the falsehoods and misdirection of Atwill and others.

Joseph Atwill also claims that there are dozens of parallels between the Gospels and the history of Titus and his military. This requires a huge stretch of imagination. They prove nothing but the desperate hope of selling more books.

Atwill and his followers mix facts and ignore others. They fail to explain the well-documented activities of early Christians who were well known Historical characters and what they were doing. They mislead people about the persecutions of Christians and seem ignorant of the court issue that got peaceful people executed by the tens of thousands.

The makers of the film Zeitgeist try to make comparisons with many other characters of ancient history to prove Jesus was a fictional character but the sources and information they present as fact are more often incorrect or entirely fictional.

Many people are quick to jump on board their thesis for a variety of reasons but the whole truth reveals they are confused and dependent upon speculation and leaps of logic.


“Sometimes the best way to learn a lesson isn't just hearing the words, but putting it into practice by experimenting with it and finding its truth for yourself instead of taking someone else’s word for it.” ― A.J. Darkholme, Rise of the Morningstar


They are right that pagan ideas crept into what began posing as Christianity after Flavius Salerus Constantinus's First Council of Nicaea that attracted only a small number of Bishops who convened in Nicaea in Bithynia.

The people advocating that the Flavians created Christianity are mixing the creation of the Church of Flavius Salerus Constantinus with real Christians.

A thousand years later during centuries of inquisitions the Church created by Constantinus would murder millions of real Christians who were a living Church practicing Pure Religion. If people had been taught the truth about the Gospel of the Kingdom and the reason for the Christian conflict Atwill's suggestion that rebellious and violent Christians were persecuted would be seen as patently false.

Rome had become a Welfare State. That had not only made the Caesar's gods but made the people subject to the Imperial Cult of Rome in much the same way as the modern image of Rome.

Early Christians were practicing Private welfare instead of Public religion. It was the Public religion which involves the Covetous Practices that made men Merchandise and curses their children with debt.


"Fortunately for serious minds, a bias recognized is a bias sterilized." Benjamin Haydon



"And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free." (John 8:32)


The Fomenko phenomena

The New Chronology argues that the conventional historical chronology of Middle Eastern and European history is fundamentally flawed. The claim is that events attributed to the civilizations of the Roman Empire, Ancient Greece and Ancient Egypt actually occurred during the Middle Ages, more than a thousand years later. Evidently, all of the ancient histories of Greece, Rome, and Egypt are merely a reflection of events that occurred in the Middle Ages and that all of Chinese and Arab history are fabrications of 17th and 18th century Jesuits.

Some of these ideas are derived from the work of Russian scholar Nikolai Morozov (1854–1946) and French scholar Jean Hardouin (1646–1729). Although the New Chronology is most commonly associated with Russian mathematician Anatoly Fomenko. Critics of Fomenko's theory claim that his use of historical sources is highly selective and ignores the basic principles of sound historical scholarship. Most scientists and historians considered Fomenko's works to be either pseudoscientific or anti-scientific.

Fomenko uses a mathematical analysis of different texts, to support his idea that a lot of the purported ancient texts are in fact modern or at least no more than a 1000 years old.

Fomenko has published and sold over one million copies of his books in his native Russia. Many groups have appeared which aim to supplement his work with additional amateur research and are often more than willing to jump to definitive conclusions based on selective examination of available evidence.

The New Chronology has been compared to J. R. R. Tolkien's fantasy world and we can certainly ask is Fomenko's version fact or fancy?

So why is he so popular in Russia?

And why is his popularity growing?

Those who "Truly You Have a Dizzying Intellect." often find it "inconceivable" once they" get going" that they are barking up the wrong tree. People like Vizzini go on and on thinking they can figure out the solution when in fact both viles contain poison.

Femenko has one of those dizzying intellects. Some of his peer-reviewed papers were rejected years ago so he took his opinions to the public and eventually found a nitch where he sold over a million copies of his books.


What is Anatoly Fomenko's book "History: Fiction or Science" really all about besides selling lots of books?

Is there more we can learn from the Fomenko phenomena?

Puzzle Pieces

For a long time, it seems clear that there are vast areas of history that are absent from the school books. Who was Rome fighting in the north, east and west and why were their legions often dramatically defeated? What were those civilizations and societies doing that was different than the Roman model?

Who were they and what made them "great"?

There are also a great many things discovered in archeology that are regularly suppressed because they do not fit the academically accepted chronology of history. Anyone gathering and sharing historical data know there are taboo topics that will end scholastic acceptability and terminate grants.

Just as Egyptian Chronology has been controversial and anything that contradicts present accepted academic conclusion becomes "far out". The pride and prejudice of any academic structure must be overcome with a preponderance of the evidence that may simply not always be available.

But it is not just academia that is subject to the prejudices of pride. We all can adjust the value of data to produce the outcome of our conclusions.


  • “For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth; to know the worst and to provide for it.” ― Patrick Henry

Why are some people so willing to throw out everything they have learned or at least toss aside what the mainstream thinking commonly accept as true?

Anatoly Fomenko critics have suggested that Fomenko's version of history appealed to the Russian people because of a breakdown of pride due to economic and political failure. The need for self-justification is providing the momentum of an imperial consciousness to replace their disillusionment and failures of Communism in a post-Communist corporate oligarchy.

In truth, it is the same energy moving some of the Russian people to accept Fomenko's senarios tat we see in the make America great again phenomena.

There are those who will take the time like the people at [https://www.quora.com/What-are-some-arguments-against-Anatoly-Fomenkos-book-History-Fiction-or-Science Quora] to go through arguments and calculations piece by piece and point out many leaping conclusions and adjustments in the data presented by men like Anatoly Fomenko.


There is often a current of emotion motivating any ideological movement in society from Zeitgeist to the complete questioning of a historical Jesus. Ideological subversion has long been used to weaken society.

What is actually behind that motion and manipulation of the Zeitgeist Spirit of the society in which we live?

How objective are we in our quest for the whole truth?

What keeps people in society from being swept away by every current or wave?

"That we [henceforth] be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, [and] cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;" Ephesians 4:14

To be continued




Zealot

A zealot has become a person who is fanatical and uncompromising in pursuit of their religious, political, or other ideals. But historically he was a member of an ancient Jewish sect aiming at a world Jewish theocracy and resisting the Romans until AD 70.

"The Zealots were originally a political movement in 1st century Second Temple Judaism which sought to incite the people of Judaea Province to rebel against the Roman Empire and expel it from the Holy Land by force of arms, most notably during the First Jewish–Roman War (66-70). Zealotry was the term used by Josephus for a "fourth sect" during this period."[1]

Was Jesus a Zealot? Is Reza Aslan wrong about Jesus?

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Reza Aslan "Zealot". Zealot: The Life and Times of Jesus of Nazareth, which offers an interpretation of the life and mission of the historical Jesus. Does he know what he is talking about?

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http://www.hisholychurch.net/kkvv/9thfolder/13-08-02-Asland-2.mp3

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Footnotes

  1. Matthew 5:34 But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God’s throne: city of the great King. 36 Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black. 37 But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.