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By 14: They are talking about the roles in organized society and the differentiation of authority. Peterson mentions a subsidiary structure to prevent fractionization. This is were the distinction can be observed is in [[the bands]] of society or the social bonds of society. | By 14: They are talking about the roles in organized society and the differentiation of authority. Peterson mentions a subsidiary structure<Ref>Subsidiary Structure belongs suggest that one part of the structure belongs to another such as a "''parent'' or the holding company". This would mean one can gain control over another through mergers, acquisitions, consolidation and special purpose entities.</Ref> to prevent fractionization. This is were the distinction can be observed is in [[the bands]] of society or the social bonds of society. | ||
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Revision as of 02:29, 12 April 2023
Episode 12
Exodus: Episode 12 begins with Exodus Exodus•Mar 29, 2023
"What are the consequences of not taking sacrifice seriously in religious practice? Jordan and the roundtable (now joined by Gregg Hurwitz and Ben Shapiro) continue their exploration of Exodus 24, focusing on the details of sacred space, ritual and worship with specific emphasis on the ideal of sacrificing in order to live up to the highest ideal—and the disunity that comes from disregarding the importance of sacrifice as a result." Daily Wire
Government by consent
"All the LORD has spoken we will do" Exodus 24
Was the first government by consent?
When they were governed in Egypt they were governed by consent too. They agreed to give a percentage of their labor to the government and their loyalty if he gave them "free bread".
God gave them free bread in the form of mana and more and so did Pharaoh at first which brought them into captivity by consent.
This offer of the dainties of rulers has been repeated throughout history in many ways from Nimrod to Pharaoh and Caesar to FDR.
We need to understand the differences.
5:min. Ben Shapiro mentions everyone's role in a hierarchy.
Were they setting up a hierarchy and if so what was its nature?
6:min they discuss the order and practically Exodus 24 3 And Moses came and told the people all the words of the LORD, and all the judgments: and all the people answered with one voice, and said, All the words which the LORD hath said will we do.
Exodus 24:7 "And he took the book of the covenant, and read in the audience of the people: and they said, All that the LORD hath said will we do, and be obedient(hear)."[1]
Do you hear and do and hear?
12: Peterson speaks of this as a process that alters us on many levels including genetically.
By 14: They are talking about the roles in organized society and the differentiation of authority. Peterson mentions a subsidiary structure[2] to prevent fractionization. This is were the distinction can be observed is in the bands of society or the social bonds of society.
He admits they need to flesh that out bit if we do not understand what is really happening it will degenerate.
15: Hillsdale Aristotle says that choices to do is more important than merely what we do.[3]
18: Johnathan talks about what you choose and what you actually do. Parable of the two sons. Who is a son. They agree that the doing may open up a better understanding.
21: Ben adds that it is a willful subordination to a system.
- The Covent is with the God not with men nor their gods. This is why it is important to understand what they are doing and how it functions.
It requires a circumcision of the heart and mind and blood is the seat of the soul and the power is in the spirit and not in the flesh and blood.
There is always is a danger of worshipping the ritual and departing from the spirit of God. The more we eat of the the tree of knowledge the more this happens.
27: Life is sacrifice but you have some power over that choice.
30: Hadley continues to talk about sacrifice. What they need to understand that worship is sacrifice and the altars require everyone daily chooses to sacrifice by their own freewill offerings for the welfare others. The people did not do that in the bondage and social welfare system of Egypt and neither do they do that in the legal charity system of FDR and LBJ, etc. which is the welfare system which is a snare.
24: false guilt is bondage??? guilt and shame??? Gratitude.
40: Johnathan mentions the hierarchy of man and animals but men should not rule over men.
They do not understand the golden calf which we cover in Exodus 32 but they are still in Exodus 24. They do not seem to understand the idolatry.[4]
But they do mention the golden statue is eaten by the people after being turned to powder by Moses.
55:
? antinomianism, (Greek anti, “against”; nomos, “law”), doctrine according to which Christians are freed by grace from the necessity of obeying the Mosaic Law.
- ↑ 08085 ^עמשׁ^ shama‘ \@shaw-mah’\@ a primitive root ShinMemAyin understand 9, obedient 8, diligently 8, shew 6, sound 3, declare 3, discern 2, noise 2, perceive 2, tell 2, reported 2, misc 33; 1159 v
- 1) to hear, listen to, obey
- 1a) (Qal)
- 1a1) to hear (perceive by ear)
- 1a2) to hear of or concerning
- 1a3) to hear (have power to hear)
- 1a4) to hear with attention or interest, listen to
- 1a5) to understand (language)
- 1a6) to hear (of judicial cases)
- 1a7) to listen, give heed
- 1a7a) to consent, agree
- 1a7b) to grant request
- 1a8) to listen to, yield to
- 1a9) to obey, be obedient
- 1b) (Niphal)
- 1b1) to be heard (of voice or sound)
- 1b2) to be heard of
- 1b3) to be regarded, be obeyed
- 1c) (Piel) to cause to hear, call to hear, summon
- 1d) (Hiphil)
- 1d1) to cause to hear, tell, proclaim, utter a sound
- 1d2) to sound aloud (musical term)
- 1d3) to make proclamation, summon
- 1d4) to cause to be heard
- 1a) (Qal)
- n m 2) sound
- 1) to hear, listen to, obey
- ↑ Subsidiary Structure belongs suggest that one part of the structure belongs to another such as a "parent or the holding company". This would mean one can gain control over another through mergers, acquisitions, consolidation and special purpose entities.
- ↑ "Freedom is the Right to Choose, the Right to create for oneself the alternatives of Choice. Without the possibility of Choice, and the exercise of Choice, a man is not a man but a member, an instrument, a thing.” Archibald MacLeish
- ↑ Covetousness is idolatry
- Colossians 3:5 "Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry: 6 For which things’ sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience:"
- Ephesians 5:5 "For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God."
- 1 Corinthians 5:10 "Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world. 11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat."
- For it is written that the tables of dainties provided by rulers of the world are a snare because they cause the masses to bite one another through government systems of legal charity which are covetous practices which are a form of fornication or adultery where the people are devoured as merchandise, curse children and are "entangled again in the yoke of bondage" with the aid of the false religion of the whore who rides the beast.