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Are we saved by faith or by works?


We are saved by grace as a result of our faith.  
== By the what ==
 
 
I am glad when people say they have faith and are saved and I often hear people proclaim that they are ''saved by the blood.''
 
While that is a catchy phrase I am not always sure what everyone means by saying it.
 
We know we are not saved by works so what does save us?
 
When people tell me that I am always reminded of what Jesus said in warning that many who will think the same in Matthew 7:22 "Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work [[iniquity]]."
Of course I do not know anything about you but Jesus also warms up the deception that will be common.
 
: Matthew 24:5 "For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many."
 
We also know by His words that we cannot save ourselves by saying [[Lord Lord|Lord, Lord]] nor simply by words of any proclamations or He would not have said in Luke 13:24 "Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able."
 
  And then He is reminding us in Luke 21:8 "... Take heed that ye be not deceived: for many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and the time draweth near: go ye not therefore after them."
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===Saved by faith ===
 
Are we [[saved]] by [[faith]] or by works?
 
We are saved by [[grace]] as a result of our [[faith]].  


* Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of God:
* Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of God:


So it is through your faith you are saved but by grace. God is judge. We must see evidence of that faith in the form of fruits. Those fruits should reflect the doctrines of Jesus too.  
So it is through your faith you are saved but by [[Grace|grace]] which is a form of [[Charity|charity]].
 
God is [[Judge|judge]]. But how do we know we are saved?
 
We must see evidence of that faith in the form of fruits. Those fruits should reflect the [[Doctrines of Jesus]] too.
 
[[Jesus]] was going to take the kingdom from the [[Pharisees]] and give it to another because they were not bearing [[Fruit|fruit]].<Ref>Matthew 21:43 Therefore say I unto you, The [[Kingdom of God]] shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.</Ref>
 
Jesus continues to explain that fruits are important because they are evidence of your faith and that it is real and not merely a product of your imagination and pride.<Ref>John 15:16 Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and [that] your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.</Ref>
 
: Luke 13:9  And if it bear fruit, well: and if not, then after that thou shalt cut it down.
 
: John 15:4  Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.
 
: John 15:8  Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples.
 
: Matthew 13:23 But he that received seed into the good ground is he that heareth the word, and understandeth [it]; which also beareth fruit, and bringeth forth, some an hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty.
 
Even healing people depended upon their faith which is not really just what you think but a compatibility of yourself with the spirit and [[Social virtues|virtue]] of Christ.


* Luke 7:50  And he said to the woman, Thy faith hath saved thee; go in peace.
* Luke 7:50  And he said to the woman, Thy faith hath saved thee; go in peace.
* Luke 8:46... 48 And Jesus said, Somebody hath touched me: for I perceive that virtue is gone out of me...  And he said unto her, Daughter, be of good comfort: thy faith hath made thee whole; go in peace.
* Luke 18:42  And Jesus said unto him, Receive thy sight: thy faith hath saved thee.
* Luke 18:42  And Jesus said unto him, Receive thy sight: thy faith hath saved thee.




[http://www.hisholychurch.org/news/articles/ThatWord2nwv.php Faith] is not what you think it is a conviction that compels you to act.  
[http://www.hisholychurch.org/news/articles/ThatWord2nwv.php Faith] may not be what you think it is a conviction that compels you to act.  


Works are the fruit of faith. Works or fruit is how you shall know the faithful. No fruits or the wrong fruit and you know their faith is false.
Works are the fruit of faith. Works or fruit is how you shall know the faithful. No fruits or the wrong fruit and you know their faith is false.
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So the idea that because we say works are essential has nothing to do with suggesting that we  saved by our own works. Jesus was clear over and over that being a doer is not just a suggestion.
So the idea that because we say works are essential has nothing to do with suggesting that we  saved by our own works. Jesus was clear over and over that being a doer is not just a suggestion.


Real faith changes us...
* Romans 3:27 Where [is] boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.
 
But that brings us back to the question what is [[Faith]]?
 
Two hundred years ago the English word faith was defined as “Probity; good faith is the very soul of contracts. Faith also signifies confidence, belief; as, full faith and credit ought to be given to the acts of a magistrate while acting within his jurisdiction. Vide Bona fide.” While we see that faith is defined as probity. Probity was defined as “Justice, honesty. A man of probity is one who loves justice and honesty, and who dislikes the contrary.”
 
Real faith controls what you do in matters of justice and honor compelling virtue.
 
This is why James gives us the warnings about thinking we are faithful.
 
* James 2:14-17 "What [doth it] profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him? If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,  And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit? Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone."
 
He goes on and makes this abundantly clear.
 
* James 2:18-20  "Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works. Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.  But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?"
 
* James 2:26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.
 
Real faith changes us. It is life that brings us to the ways of Christ...


* Malachi 2:17 Ye have wearied the LORD with your words. Yet ye say, Wherein have we wearied [him]? When ye say, Every one that doeth evil [is] good in the sight of the LORD, and he delighteth in them; or, Where [is] the God of judgment?
* Malachi 2:17 Ye have wearied the LORD with your words. Yet ye say, Wherein have we wearied [him]? When ye say, Every one that doeth evil [is] good in the sight of the LORD, and he delighteth in them; or, Where [is] the God of judgment?


* Matthew 7:21 ¶ Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
* Matthew 7:21 ¶ Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my [[Father]] which is in heaven.


* Matthew 7:24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:
* Matthew 7:24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:
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* Luke 6:49 But he that heareth, and doeth not, is like a man that without a foundation built an house upon the earth; against which the stream did beat vehemently, and immediately it fell; and the ruin of that house was great.
* Luke 6:49 But he that heareth, and doeth not, is like a man that without a foundation built an house upon the earth; against which the stream did beat vehemently, and immediately it fell; and the ruin of that house was great.
There is no [[Faith]] or [[Probity]] in us if we will not strive to attend to the {{Template:Weightier matters}}.
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Latest revision as of 17:27, 3 October 2024

By the what

I am glad when people say they have faith and are saved and I often hear people proclaim that they are saved by the blood.

While that is a catchy phrase I am not always sure what everyone means by saying it.

We know we are not saved by works so what does save us?

When people tell me that I am always reminded of what Jesus said in warning that many who will think the same in Matthew 7:22 "Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity."

Of course I do not know anything about you but Jesus also warms up the deception that will be common.

Matthew 24:5 "For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many."

We also know by His words that we cannot save ourselves by saying Lord, Lord nor simply by words of any proclamations or He would not have said in Luke 13:24 "Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able." 

 And then He is reminding us in Luke 21:8 "... Take heed that ye be not deceived: for many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and the time draweth near: go ye not therefore after them."
https://preparingyou.com/wiki/Lord_lord

Saved by faith

Are we saved by faith or by works?

We are saved by grace as a result of our faith.

  • Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of God:

So it is through your faith you are saved but by grace which is a form of charity.

God is judge. But how do we know we are saved?

We must see evidence of that faith in the form of fruits. Those fruits should reflect the Doctrines of Jesus too.

Jesus was going to take the kingdom from the Pharisees and give it to another because they were not bearing fruit.[1]

Jesus continues to explain that fruits are important because they are evidence of your faith and that it is real and not merely a product of your imagination and pride.[2]

Luke 13:9 And if it bear fruit, well: and if not, then after that thou shalt cut it down.
John 15:4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.
John 15:8 Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples.
Matthew 13:23 But he that received seed into the good ground is he that heareth the word, and understandeth [it]; which also beareth fruit, and bringeth forth, some an hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty.

Even healing people depended upon their faith which is not really just what you think but a compatibility of yourself with the spirit and virtue of Christ.

  • Luke 7:50 And he said to the woman, Thy faith hath saved thee; go in peace.
  • Luke 8:46... 48 And Jesus said, Somebody hath touched me: for I perceive that virtue is gone out of me... And he said unto her, Daughter, be of good comfort: thy faith hath made thee whole; go in peace.
  • Luke 18:42 And Jesus said unto him, Receive thy sight: thy faith hath saved thee.


Faith may not be what you think it is a conviction that compels you to act.

Works are the fruit of faith. Works or fruit is how you shall know the faithful. No fruits or the wrong fruit and you know their faith is false.

  • Matthew 7:16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
  • Matthew 7:20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

So the idea that because we say works are essential has nothing to do with suggesting that we saved by our own works. Jesus was clear over and over that being a doer is not just a suggestion.

  • Romans 3:27 Where [is] boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.

But that brings us back to the question what is Faith?

Two hundred years ago the English word faith was defined as “Probity; good faith is the very soul of contracts. Faith also signifies confidence, belief; as, full faith and credit ought to be given to the acts of a magistrate while acting within his jurisdiction. Vide Bona fide.” While we see that faith is defined as probity. Probity was defined as “Justice, honesty. A man of probity is one who loves justice and honesty, and who dislikes the contrary.”

Real faith controls what you do in matters of justice and honor compelling virtue.

This is why James gives us the warnings about thinking we are faithful.

  • James 2:14-17 "What [doth it] profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him? If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food, And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit? Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone."

He goes on and makes this abundantly clear.

  • James 2:18-20 "Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works. Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?"
  • James 2:26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

Real faith changes us. It is life that brings us to the ways of Christ...

  • Malachi 2:17 Ye have wearied the LORD with your words. Yet ye say, Wherein have we wearied [him]? When ye say, Every one that doeth evil [is] good in the sight of the LORD, and he delighteth in them; or, Where [is] the God of judgment?
  • Matthew 7:21 ¶ Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
  • Matthew 7:24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:
  • Matthew 7:26 And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand:
  • Luke 6:47 Whosoever cometh to me, and heareth my sayings, and doeth them, I will shew you to whom he is like:
  • Luke 6:49 But he that heareth, and doeth not, is like a man that without a foundation built an house upon the earth; against which the stream did beat vehemently, and immediately it fell; and the ruin of that house was great.

There is no Faith or Probity in us if we will not strive to attend to the Weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith which include caring for the needs of our neighbors and the widows and orphans of our society through Pure Religion in matters of health, education, and welfare. We are NOT to provide for the needy of society through the Covetous Practices and the men who call themselves benefactors but who exercise authority one over the other like the socialists do.

The Way of Christ was like neither the way of the world of Rome nor the governments of the gentiles who depend on those fathers of the earth through force, fear and fealty who deliver the people back in bondage again like they were in Egypt. Christ's ministers and true Christians do not depend upon systems of social welfare that force the contributions of the people like the corban of the Pharisees which made the word of God to none effect. Many people have been deceived to go the way of Balaam and the Nicolaitan and out of The Way of Christ and have become workers of iniquity.

The Christian conflict with Rome in the first century Church appointed by Christ was because they would not apply to the fathers of the earth for their free bread but instead relied upon a voluntary network providing a daily ministration to the needy of society through Faith, Hope, and Charity by way of freewill offerings of the people, for the people, and by the people through the perfect law of liberty in Free Assemblies according to the ancient pattern of Tuns or Tens as He commanded.

The modern Christians are in need of repentance.

"Follow me!" —Jesus the Christ.

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Footnotes

  1. ↑ Matthew 21:43 Therefore say I unto you, The Kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.
  2. ↑ John 15:16 Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and [that] your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.
  3. ↑ Matthew 20:25-26 But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Ye know that the princes of the Gentiles exercise dominion over them, and they that are great exercise authority upon them. But it shall not be so among you: but whosoever will be great among you, let him be your minister;
    Mark 10:42-43 But Jesus called them to him, and saith unto them, Ye know that they which are accounted to rule over the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and their great ones exercise authority upon them. But so shall it not be among you: but whosoever will be great among you, shall be your minister:
    Luke 22:25-26 And he said unto them, The kings of the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and they that exercise authority upon them are called benefactors. But ye shall not be so: but he that is greatest among you, let him be as the younger; and he that is chief, as he that doth serve.


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