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Revision as of 17:05, 26 May 2023
Episode 1
- "Jordan and his round table explore the themes of freedom against tyranny, God’s allowance of evil, and faith as an adventure within the first three chapters of Exodus. They seek to answer the question of whether one should take the easy path even if it is wrong or do what is right despite it being hard." Dailywire
The first part is an introduction to the Panelist.
The Panelists
Jordan Peterson's Exodus Panel
- Douglas Hedley is Reader in Hermeneutics and Metaphysics and Fellow of Clare College, University of Cambridge, UK.
- Jonathan Pageau is an artist, public speaker and writer.
- Stephen James Blackwood is a Canadian-American scholar, cultural commentator, and social entrepreneur.
- Dr James Orr is Associate Professor of Philosophy of Religion from St. John's College, Cambridge.
- Dennis Prager an author and practicing Jew with knowledge of Hebrew and the Torah with PragerU.
- Gregg Hurwitz is an American novelist, scriptwriter, and producer.
- Ian Oswald Guinness is an English author and social critic now based in Fairfax County, Virginia; he has lived in the United States since 1984.
- Larry Paul Arnn is an American educator and writer, president of Hillsdale College.
- Ben Shapiro in Episode 12
Hierarchies
11 minutes
Jordan Peterson describes God or god as what ever is at the hierarchy of your own mind. He sees that what you hold as most valuable to you become you God.
13 minutes begins to read the text of Exodus 1
Exodus 1:8 "Now there arose up a new king over Egypt, which knew not Joseph."
15 minutes
Jordan Peterson sees that Israelites were made slaves by the new Pharaoh but the truth was they had been in a corvee system of bondage since when they first entered Egypt. What was happening was that the terms through crafts of state became more oppressive.[1]
How common was slavery and what type of slavery?
The bondage of Egypt was a system of Corvee that started out with owing twenty-percent of your labor to the government but became more oppressive with less benefits[2] which became more and more grievous.
Egypt wanted to reduce Israel who were thriving more than Egyptians. If they really wanted to destroy Israel they should have given them more benefits. [3]
At 20:45 Ian Oswald Guinnes mentions this corvee [2] under Solomon which is why God divided Israel. All systems of Corvee are a return to the bondage of Egypt and almost always move people away from liberty through covetous practices which leads to the degeneration the Masses and usher in the rise of foolish tyrants.
21 min.
Dennis points out that every day between Passover 50 days before Pentecost there should be a reminding blessing against external tyranny and internal tyranny to yourself (lusts, etc.).
But there is the tyranny of neighbor over neighbor which much of the Ten Commandments does address. Certainly we should not murder, steal, or bear false witness but the one that appears invisible in the mind of modern man is "Thou shall not covet..."
They speak of the ideologies that everything is tyranny you just pick your own tyranny which of course is the ideologies of the Derrida types and their propaganda of deconstructionism and blindness.
Ian Oswald Guinnes points out that all power corrupts.
- "Power tends to corrupt; absolute power corrupts absolutely" is an observation Lord Acton made in a letter to Bishop Creighton on April 5, 1887.
If that is true then how is Paul justified in his statement with in Roman 13?
The truth is Moses was setting up a government with the division of power was not merely in three branches of government but in fact was recognizing that we were endowed by our creator with the power of Choice and that power needed to remain with in each family. Any centralization of power, i.e. power of choice, into the hands of a few would lead man back into bondage.[4]
All three branches of government must remain with what Jordan Peterson will call "the sovereign individual" in Episode 2
Fear God
24 min Exodus 1:15 mentions killing the male children. That is a pattern of evil repeated through the stories of history. What if you could just destroy the male children without killing them?
The midwives does not kill because of fear of God more than the Pharaoh.
Psalms 111:10 The fear of the LORD [is] the beginning of wisdom: a good understanding have all they that do [his commandments]: his praise endureth for ever.
But Proverbs 1:7 The fear of the LORD [is] the beginning of knowledge: [but] fools despise wisdom and instruction." Proverbs 2:5 Then shalt thou understand the fear of the LORD, and find the knowledge of God.
Proverbs 9:10 "The fear(יִרְאַ֣ת yir’aṯ) of the LORD [is] the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy [is] understanding."
35: min Dr. Ian Oswald Guinnes brings up "civil disobedience" which suggest there must be a higher morality from a law prior to the civil law.
50:min continues to read.
Moses is put in and ark upon the water. They see Moses in associated with water which Jordan points out many times but the Pharaoh with stone.
Dennis suggest that water is the undoing of Moses when he strikes the rock to bring fourth water.
Water flows and not fixed like stone.
Moses was judged for taking credit for what God did.
Status of Moses
Exodus 2 they cover Moses adopted mother is called the "daughter of God" and the Mother of Moses.
The ramifications of that status is never fully addressed.
unedited Notes
Know thyself" is an Ancient Greek aphorism that means "know thy measure". According to the Greek writer Pausanias[5], it was the first of three Delphic maxims inscribed in the forecourt of the Temple of Apollo at Delphi. The two maxims that follow "know thyself" were "nothing to excess" and "certainty brings ruin". "Know thy self" Delphi
Sun Tzu
As it happens, the phrase "know thy enemy" isn't in our Holy Quran, but it comes from the ancient Chinese general Sun Tzu. The full quote goes like this: "Know thy enemy and know yourself; in a hundred battles, you will never be defeated.
What if the enemy is us?
Walt Kelly's phrase, “We have met the enemy and he is us” derives from braggadocio during the War of 1812 in which commodore Oliver Hazard Perry reported, “We have met the enemy and they are ours” to William Henry Harrison after the Battle of Lake Erie.May 19,
Pogo the 'possum's quote in the poster Kelly designed to help promote environmental awareness and publicize the first annual observance of Earth Day, held on April 22, 1970: “WE HAVE MET THE ENEMY AND HE IS US.”A
George Orwell
Quote by George Orwell: “Man is the only real enemy we have."
Ian Oswald Guinness remarks about the foundation of different forms a revolution may take comparing the Russian, Chinese, and even the French revolutions with that of the American revolution.
Like Douglas Hedley he too is concerned we do not know the principle of Exodus and it's connection to the foundation of the American path to freedom.
Dr James Orr and Dennis Prager both believe there is a value to society to learn from an examination of Exodus.
Stephen James Blackwood is a Canadian-American scholar hopes they can breath some life back into these stories that help mold our approach to life.
Jonathan Pageau as an artist approaches the symbolism that was intended to bring virtuous order out of chaos.
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21 min
Ian Oswald Guinness points out that Solomon was becoming a second Pharaoh with his corvee while Israel was to be the opposite. Dennis says there was tyranny from Pharaoh but we need to be free from the tyranny of ourselves. Is it all just a choice of the tyranny you choose or is there a trancedence
existence or experience beyond the normal or physical level.
"the possibility of spiritual transcendence in the modern world"
To government by one individual (in an autocracy) to government by a minority (in an oligarchy, tyranny of the minority) to government by a majority (in a democracy, tyranny of the majority)
55 "Water and Moses"
By 107 they are bringing up the idea of violence over through of tyranny as an error.
- ↑ Exodus 1:11 Therefore they did set over them taskmasters to afflict them with their burdens. And they built for Pharaoh treasure cities, Pithom and Raamses. 12 But the more they afflicted them, the more they multiplied and grew. And they were grieved because of the children of Israel. 13 And the Egyptians made the children of Israel to serve with rigour:
- ↑ 2.0 2.1 Fifth part
- Genesis 47:24 "And it shall come to pass in the increase, that ye shall give the fifth [part] unto Pharaoh, and four parts shall be your own, for seed of the field, and for your food, and for them of your households, and for food for your little ones. 25 And they said, Thou hast saved our lives: let us find grace in the sight of my lord, and we will be Pharaoh’s servants. 26 And Joseph made it a law over the land of Egypt unto this day, [that] Pharaoh should have the fifth [part]; except the land of the priests only, [which] became not Pharaoh’s."
It should also be noted this was the beginning of the bondage of Egypt but in verse 22 "Only the land of the priests bought he not; for the priests had a portion assigned them of Pharaoh, and did eat their portion which Pharaoh gave them: wherefore they sold not their lands."
- Genesis 47:24 "And it shall come to pass in the increase, that ye shall give the fifth [part] unto Pharaoh, and four parts shall be your own, for seed of the field, and for your food, and for them of your households, and for food for your little ones. 25 And they said, Thou hast saved our lives: let us find grace in the sight of my lord, and we will be Pharaoh’s servants. 26 And Joseph made it a law over the land of Egypt unto this day, [that] Pharaoh should have the fifth [part]; except the land of the priests only, [which] became not Pharaoh’s."
- ↑ Destroyers of liberty
- "That the man who first ruined the Roman people twas he who first gave them treats and gratuities. But this mischief crept secretly and gradually in, and did not openly make it's appearance in Rome for a considerable time." Plutarch's Life of Coriolanus (c. 100 AD.) This would include Julius Caesar and eventually Augustus Caesar which is why Plutarch also reported, “The real destroyers of the liberties of the people is he who spreads among them bounties, donations, and benefits.” This was a major theme of the Bible:
- There were tables of welfare which were both snares and a traps as David and Paul stated and Peter warned would make us merchandise and curse children. Proverbs 23 told us not to not eat the "dainties" offered at those tables of Rulers and Paul says in 1 Corinthians 10 we cannot eat of those tables and the table of the Lord. We are not to consent to their covetous systems of One purse or Corban which makes the word of God to none effect.
- We know when the masses become accustomed to those benefits of legal charity which are the rewards of unrighteousness provided by benefactors who exercise authority and the Fathers of the earth through the covetous practices that makes men merchandise and curse children as a surety for debt.
- ↑ "Freedom is the Right to Choose, the Right to create for oneself the alternatives of Choice. Without the possibility of Choice, and the exercise of Choice, a man is not a man but a member, an instrument, a thing.” Archibald MacLeish
- ↑ What are Pausanias two kinds of love? Pausanias points out two types of love: Common Love and Heavenly Love, with Heavenly Love being the better of the two.