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The Canaanites like Egypt Assyria and others were all banking on having one purse to bind the people like the **golden calf** did or the Corban of the Pharisees which Christ condemned. These schemes of the Nimrods and Cains of the world who were the **benefactors** and **fathers of the earth** since the beginning. **Jesus was not a socialist**. Socialism is incompatible with Christ's teachings.

Peaceful invasion of Canaan

The Bible seems to indicate that there was a military invasion of Palestine when Israel came into Canaan. But a growing number of archaeologists are now contending that such a violent invasion of Canaan by Israel is inconsistent with the archaeological record.

Evidently this modern view began to change in the 1930s when John Garstang and William F. Albright excavated at Jericho and Beitin. But the beliefs of some of the people of Judea at the time of Christ also thought military genocide was unacceptable. Certainly Christ would not and he seemed to be in agreement with Moses.

Yet, some still believe that ancient Israel was a theocracy in which God commanded the nation through prophets and gave them power and authority to carry out genocide and defeat what we imagine to be idolatrous peoples. And then we are suppose to believe Jesus changed the policy of God to "forgiveness and grace ... nonviolence, gentleness, and love".

If we are to believe Moses and Jesus were in agreement and the prophecy of Revelation ^[1] is that the 144,000^[2] will be in harmony with both Moses and Jesus then was the Old Testament actually in harmony with the New Testament? Has sophistry crept into our modern translation & understanding of the Old Testament?

Is the references to the old fading away or being obsolete only refer to the apostasy of the Jews and Pharisees and not to what Moses intended from the beginning?

Who can learn the "song of Moses the servant of God, and the song of the Lamb"?

According to Matt Flannagan and Paul Copan a two-pronged argument by Nicholas Wolterstorff s that “First, it is quite implausible that those who authorized the final form of the text [of Joshua] were affirming that all Canaanites were exterminated at God’s command. Second, the accounts that appear to say otherwise are utilizing extensive hyperbole and are not intended to be taken literally” (84-85)

They go into complex arguments suggesting that Joshua was using “hagiographic hyperbole".

But if we just look at the text we see.

"But thou shalt utterly destroy them; [namely], the Hittites, and the Amorites, the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites; as the LORD thy God hath commanded thee:" (Deuteronomy 20:17)

The verb "destroy" in Hebrew is charam^[3] and is translated "destroy" 34 times but "utterly" 10 times and "devote" twice. It is also translated "accursed", "consecrate", "forfeited", "flat nose", "utterly to make away", and "slay" at least once.

What if Joshua actually meant "devote" or "consecrate" some of those times that we see the translators making his use of the word charam mean "destroy"?

How can a single word mean "to ban, devote" also mean "destroy utterly, completely destroy" or mean "to consecrate, devote" but also mean "dedicate for destruction"?

As a noun charam has the same letters but s translated into "net" or "accursed thing" 9 times each. It is also translated "accursed" and "curse" 4 times each, and "cursed thing" 3 times, But is translated "devoted" or "devoted thing" a haf dozen times. ^[4]

The same noun charam is translated "destruction" twice 1 Kings 20:42 and Zechariah 14:11 which is also translated "devoted thing" twice in both Leviticus 27:28 and Numbers 18:14.

And the same word charam translated "dedicated thing" in Ezekiel 44:29 once is translated "destroyed" in 1 Samuel 15:21 .

The Hebrew word charam as noun and verb is composed of three letters ChetReishMem םרח. If we remove the letter Mem and replace it with the letter Deleth we get the word charad ^[5]

Did we read the Bible wrong in these accounts of genocide?

Canaanites also refers to a way in which people governed themselves. Like the Assyrians or Asuras and Egypt there are forms of governments, politics, and economies that are not compatible with Christ and His kingdom of God of righteousness. The covetous practices of the Corban of the Pharisees was condemned by Christ.

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↑ Revelation 15:2 And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, [and] over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God. 3 And they sing the song of Moses the servant of God, and the song of the Lamb, saying, Great and marvellous are thy works, Lord God Almighty; just and true are thy ways, thou King of saints.
↑ Revelation 14:3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred [and] forty [and] four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.
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02763 ^םרח^ charam \@khaw-ram’\@ a primitive root ChetReishMem; v; AV-destroy 34, utterly 10, devote 2, accursed 1, consecrate 1, forfeited 1, flat nose 1, utterly to make away 1, slay 1; 52 and is also a noun 02764 ^םרח^ cherem
1) to ban, devote, destroy utterly, completely destroy, dedicate for destruction, exterminate
1a) (Hiphil)
1a1) to prohibit (for common use), ban

1a2) to consecrate, devote, dedicate for destruction

1a3) to exterminate, completely destroy

1b) (Hophal)
1b1) to be put under the ban, be devoted to destruction

1b2) to be devoted, be forfeited

1b3) to be completely destroyed

2) to split, slit, mutilate (a part of the body)
2a) (Qal) to mutilate

2b) (Hiphil) to divide
- ח Chet The Life Force - Dynamic nature of - cause and effect - give life and live.[fence, thread, hedge, chamber...cycle] (Numeric value: 8)
- ר Reish Process of Clarification The "head" or "beginning". Life's revelation. [Head... Person head highest] (Numeric value: 200)
- מ ם Mem Fountain of water, a flow, a fountain of the Divine Wisdom [massive, overpower chaos] (Numeric value: 40)
↑ Leviticus 27:21 But the field, when it goeth out in the jubile, shall be holy unto the LORD, as a field devoted <02764>; the possession thereof shall be the priest’s.
Leviticus 27:28 Notwithstanding no devoted thing <02764>, that a man shall devote unto the LORD of all that he hath, both of man and beast, and of the field of his possession, shall be sold or redeemed: every devoted thing <02764> is most holy unto the LORD.

Leviticus 27:29 None devoted <02764>, which shall be devoted of men, shall be redeemed; but shall surely be put to death.

Numbers 18:14 Every thing devoted <02764> in Israel shall be thine.
↑ 02729 ^דרח^ charad \@khaw-rad’\@ a primitive root; v; AV-afraid 20, tremble 13, fray away 2, careful 1, discomfited 1, fray 1, quaked 1; 39
1) to tremble, quake, move about, be afraid, be startled, be terrified
1a) (Qal)
1a1) to tremble, quake (of a mountain)

1a2) to tremble (of people)

1a3) to be anxiously careful

1a4) to go or come trembling (with prep)

1b) (Hiphil)
1b1) to cause to tremble

1b2) to drive in terror, rout (an army)

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[1] Revelation 15:2 And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, [and] over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God. 3 And they sing the song of Moses the servant of God, and the song of the Lamb, saying, Great and marvellous are thy works, Lord God Almighty; just and true are thy ways, thou King of saints.

[2] Revelation 14:3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred [and] forty [and] four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.

[3] 02763 ^םרח^ charam \@khaw-ram’\@ a primitive root ChetReishMem; v; AV-destroy 34, utterly 10, devote 2, accursed 1, consecrate 1, forfeited 1, flat nose 1, utterly to make away 1, slay 1; 52 and is also a noun 02764 ^םרח^ cherem
1) to ban, devote, destroy utterly, completely destroy, dedicate for destruction, exterminate
1a) (Hiphil)
1a1) to prohibit (for common use), ban

1a2) to consecrate, devote, dedicate for destruction

1a3) to exterminate, completely destroy

1b) (Hophal)
1b1) to be put under the ban, be devoted to destruction

1b2) to be devoted, be forfeited

1b3) to be completely destroyed

2) to split, slit, mutilate (a part of the body)
2a) (Qal) to mutilate

2b) (Hiphil) to divide

ח Chet The Life Force - Dynamic nature of - cause and effect - give life and live.[fence, thread, hedge, chamber...cycle] (Numeric value: 8)

ר Reish Process of Clarification The "head" or "beginning". Life's revelation. [Head... Person head highest] (Numeric value: 200)

מ ם Mem Fountain of water, a flow, a fountain of the Divine Wisdom [massive, overpower chaos] (Numeric value: 40)

[4] ח Chet The Life Force - Dynamic nature of - cause and effect - give life and live.[fence, thread, hedge, chamber...cycle] (Numeric value: 8)

[5] ר Reish Process of Clarification The "head" or "beginning". Life's revelation. [Head... Person head highest] (Numeric value: 200)

[6] מ ם Mem Fountain of water, a flow, a fountain of the Divine Wisdom [massive, overpower chaos] (Numeric value: 40)

[4] Leviticus 27:21 But the field, when it goeth out in the jubile, shall be holy unto the LORD, as a field devoted <02764>; the possession thereof shall be the priest’s.
Leviticus 27:28 Notwithstanding no devoted thing <02764>, that a man shall devote unto the LORD of all that he hath, both of man and beast, and of the field of his possession, shall be sold or redeemed: every devoted thing <02764> is most holy unto the LORD.

Leviticus 27:29 None devoted <02764>, which shall be devoted of men, shall be redeemed; but shall surely be put to death.

Numbers 18:14 Every thing devoted <02764> in Israel shall be thine.

[5] 02729 ^דרח^ charad \@khaw-rad’\@ a primitive root; v; AV-afraid 20, tremble 13, fray away 2, careful 1, discomfited 1, fray 1, quaked 1; 39
1) to tremble, quake, move about, be afraid, be startled, be terrified
1a) (Qal)
1a1) to tremble, quake (of a mountain)

1a2) to tremble (of people)

1a3) to be anxiously careful

1a4) to go or come trembling (with prep)

1b) (Hiphil)
1b1) to cause to tremble

1b2) to drive in terror, rout (an army)

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-The [[Bible]] seems to indicate that there was a military invasion of Palestine when Israel came into Canaan. But a growing number of archaeologists are now contending that such a violent invasion of Canaan by Israel is inconsistent with the archaeological record.
+{{Peaceful invasion of Canaan}}
-http://apologeticspress.org/apcontent.aspx?category=13&article=593
-Evidently this modern view began to change in the 1930s when John Garstang and William F. Albright excavated at Jericho and Beitin. But the beliefs of some of the people of Judea at the time of Christ also thought military genocide was unacceptable. Certainly Christ would not and he seemed to be in agreement with [[Moses]].
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-Yet, some still believe that ancient Israel was a theocracy in which God commanded the nation through prophets and gave them power and authority to carry out genocide and defeat what we imagine to be idolatrous peoples. And then we are suppose to believe Jesus changed the policy of God to "forgiveness and grace ... nonviolence, gentleness, and love".
-If we are to believe [[Moses]] and [[Jesus]] were in agreement and the prophecy of Revelation <Ref>Revelation 15:2 And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, [and] over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God. 3  And they sing the song of Moses the servant of God, and the song of the Lamb, saying, Great and marvellous are thy works, Lord God Almighty; just and true are thy ways, thou King of saints.
+{{Allegory}}
-</Ref> is that the 144,000<Ref>[[Revelation 14]]:3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred [and] forty [and] four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.</Ref> will be in harmony with both [[Moses]] and [[Jesus]] then was the Old Testament actually in harmony with the New Testament?
-Is the references to the old fading away or being obsolete only refer to the apostasy of the Jews and [[Pharisees]] and not to what Moses intended from the beginning?
-'''Who can learn the "song of Moses the servant of God, and the song of the Lamb"?'''
-According to Matt Flannagan and Paul Copan a two-pronged argument by Nicholas Wolterstorff s that “First, it is quite implausible that those who authorized the final form of the text [of Joshua] were affirming that all Canaanites were exterminated at God’s command. Second, the accounts that appear to say otherwise are utilizing extensive hyperbole and are not intended to be taken literally” (84-85)
-They go into complex arguments suggesting that Joshua was using “hagiographic hyperbole".
-But if we just look at the text we see.
-: "But thou shalt utterly destroy them; [namely], the Hittites, and the Amorites, the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites; as the LORD thy God hath commanded thee:" [[Deuteronomy 20]]:17
-The verb "destroy" in [[Hebrew]] is [[02763|charam]]<Ref>{{02763}} </Ref> and is translated "destroy" 34 times but "utterly" 10 times and  "devote" twice. It is also translated "accursed", "consecrate", "forfeited", "flat nose", "utterly to make away", and "slay" at least once.
-What if Joshua actually meant "devote" or "consecrate" some of those times that we see the translators making his use of the word [[02763|charam]] mean "destroy"?
-How can a single word mean "to ban, devote" also mean "destroy utterly, completely destroy" or  mean "to consecrate, devote" but also mean "dedicate for destruction"?
-As a [[02764|noun charam]] has the same  letters but s translated into "net"'' or ''"accursed thing"'' 9 times each. It is also translated "accursed" and "curse" 4 times each, and "cursed thing" 3 times, But is translated "devoted" or "devoted thing"  a haf dozen times. <Ref>[[Leviticus 27]]:21  But the field, when it goeth out in the jubile, shall be holy unto the LORD, as a field devoted <02764>; the possession thereof shall be the priest’s.
-: [[Leviticus 27]]:28  Notwithstanding no devoted thing <02764>, that a man shall devote unto the LORD of all that he hath, both of man and beast, and of the field of his possession, shall be sold or redeemed: every devoted thing <02764> is most holy unto the LORD.
-: [[Leviticus 27]]:29  None devoted <02764>, which shall be devoted of men, shall be redeemed; but shall surely be put to death.
-: [[Numbers 18]]:14  Every thing devoted <02764> in Israel shall be thine.</Ref>
-The same noun [[02764|charam]] is translated "destruction" twice [[1 Kings 20]]:42 and
-[[Zechariah 14]]:11 and is also translated "devoted thing" twice in both [[Leviticus 27]]:28  and [[Numbers 18]]:14.
-And the same word [[02763|charam]] translated "dedicated thing" in [[Ezekiel 44]]:29 once is translated "destroyed" in [[1 Samuel 15]]:21 .
-The Hebrew word [[02763|charam]] as noun and verb is composed of three letters ChetReishMem םרח. If we remove the letter Mem and replace it with the letter Deleth we get the word charad <Ref>{{02729}} </Ref>
-Did we read the Bible wrong in these accounts of genocide?
-{{Allegory}}
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-We hope to explore this view in the future........
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