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[[File:Abrahamshem.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Tribalism has a variety of cultures and values which produces a variety of outcomes. [[Abraham|Abram]] had left Ur and also Haran which were city states and he seems to become part of a unique tribal system. He also avoided other city states like [[Sodom]] and Gomorrah.  <Br> What was he doing and why was he able to defeat whole armies that had just conquered these city State governments when he was neither a king nor  ruler?  <Br> What was [[Abraham]] really doing?  <Br> Did he form a free "[[Polis]]" through a [[network]] of [[Altars]] strengthen [[the bands]] of society through [[pure Religion]]?  <Br>[http://www.hisholychurch.org/audio/20220730tribalism.mp3 Download Recording on Tribalism ] or press play <html><audio controls src="http://www.hisholychurch.org/audio/20220730tribalism.mp3"></audio></html> ]]


== Tribalism ==
== Tribalism ==




[[Tribalism]] is  "the state or fact of being organized in a [[tribe]] or tribes." So, [[Tribalism]] is said to be the state of being organized in or an advocate for a traditional society consisting of families  or communities.  
[[Tribalism]] is  "the state or fact of being organized in a [[tribe]] or tribes."  
 
So, [[Tribalism]] can be  said to be the state of being organized in or an advocate for a traditional society consisting of families  or groups families which form communities with shared values.
 
In terms of conformity, tribalism may also refer in popular cultural terms to a way of thinking or behaving in which people are loyal to their own tribe or social group or to common values and accepted cultural virtues.  


In terms of conformity, tribalism may also refer in popular cultural terms to a way of thinking or behaving in which people are loyal to their own tribe or social group. The [[early Christian]] community was composed of such tribes much like [[early Israel]] although the word tribe was seldom used.
The [[early Christian]] community was composed of such tribes much like [[early Israel]] although the word tribe was seldom used because the emphasis was upon the [[doctrines of Jesus]]. A [[community]] was because they shared a common ''communion''. [[Communion]] was was the [[daily bread]] of a society. A Christian communion is based on the [[Eucharist]] of Christ which was provided through the [[Pure Religion]] of the [[Corban of Christ]].


Tribalism has been defined as "a 'way of being' based upon variable combinations of kinship-based organization, reciprocal exchange, manual production, oral communication and analogical enquiry."
Tribalism has been defined as "a 'way of being' based upon variable combinations of kinship-based organization, reciprocal exchange, manual production, oral communication and analogical enquiry."


Being brothers in Christ and [[the way]] of [[Jesus]] giving them a kinship based on the values and virtues of Christ. The [[social bonds]] of Christians were nurtured by a [[daily ministration]] of [[Pure Religion]] practiced through the [[perfect law of liberty]] by [[the way]] of [[fervent charity]].


[[Tribalism]] in a derogatory sense is said to be "a [[society]] motivated by cultural tribalism".


[[Tribalism]] in a derogatory sense is said to be "a society motivated by cultural tribalism".
What is the [[culture]] of the tribe of [[Abraham]] and [[Melchizedek]]?




== Cycles of society ==


hard times strong men
Strong men good times
Good times weeken
Weaken strong times.


In tribalism Culture matters.
: Hard times produce strong men
: Strong men produce good times
: Good times produce weak men
: Weak men produce hard times.


Despite [https://fb.watch/ei5VpjvbSs/ postmodernism's] ambition to believe human nature is a social construct and through social engineering man may be recreated in the desired of the woke postmodernist.
In tribalism [[Culture]] matters.


The truth is it is the human soul that constructs human nature
But what is culture and where does it come from?


Social rules rule the outcome of as tribe. The survival of a tribe will often be determined by a generational acceptance of those cultural rules or guideposts or the often subjective interpretation of those rules.
What features could you include in your culture to prevent the reproduction of this endless cycle.  


The bible is certainly an example of this subjective interpretation.
The [[elements]] of a Godly culture would include the [[rudiments]] of a righteous system to prevent that cycle of success in failure?


What keeps an individual or a tribe from a cycle of prosperity and failure?
Is your [[Baptism]] in your tribe the same as [[John the Baptist]] or was it like the baptism of [[Herod]]?
== Reason and modernisms ==
Ages of [[reason]] and enlightenment may come and go. They are marked by the hope of moving toward truth and perfection.
Rebellion against reason or the standards it claims to produce can be called ''modernism'' which is a supposedly "modern character or quality of thought, expression, or technique:" exemplified in a movement in the arts that aims to break with classical and traditional forms attempted to modify traditional beliefs in accordance with what would be called modern ideas.
Many modernist ideas claimed to have as a goal the liberation of mankind from the cultures of the past. The removal of those social standards of morality opened the door to the [[covetous practices]] of [[socialism]] and [[communism]].
[https://youtu.be/oyzSrtr6oJE Postmodernism] was a further departure from modernism and has at its heart a claimed distrust of grand theories and ideologies as well as a nihilist relationship with any notion heavily manipulated by deconstructionist denying all power, rights, and standards but who secretly desire to recreate a society where they have all power.
[https://youtu.be/30U1AAuo_wE Postmodernism] do not believe in the individual, logic, and dialogue. while claiming inclusion they divide all individuals in to groups of identity.
An ideology is a system of ideas and ideals, especially one which forms the basis of economic or political theory and policy: There is no part of this definitions determines the value of ideas nor their outcome when implemented. Ultimately '''"ideology" is the opinion of the individuals or collectively'''.
Despite [https://youtu.be/el6TVEMnS3E postmodernism's] ambition to believe human nature is a social construct and through social engineering man may be recreated in the desired form of the woke postmodernist... The truth is it is the human soul that constructs the manifested human nature.
As young people and children we are often given rules to protect us. Throwing out those social rules can produce disasters within society.
The survival of a tribe will often be determined by a generational acceptance of those cultural rules or guideposts or the often subjective interpretation of those rules.
The [[Bible]] is certainly an example of this subjective interpretation. The [[Ten Commandments]] is one example.


== City to tribe ==
== City to tribe ==


Abraham left Ur and Haran which were cities and went out and did something different with his [[Altars]] of [[Clay and stone]].
[[Abraham]] left Ur and Haran which were cities and went out and did something different with his [[Altars]] of [[Clay and stone]]. Many of the civil society collected in the city states often became a [[City of blood]] through the [[covetous practices]] of [[legal charity]] as if they had [[one purse]].
 
Customary tribes have their social foundations in some variation of tribal orientations based in common values and beliefs, while often taking on traditional practices (e.g. [[Abraham]]ic [[religion]]s such as [[Christianity]] and Judaism), and modern practices, including monetary exchange, mobile communications, and modern education.
Customary tribes have their social foundations in some variation of tribal orientations based in common values and beliefs, while often taking on traditional practices (e.g. [[Abraham]]ic [[religion]]s such as [[Christianity]] and Judaism), and modern practices, including monetary exchange, mobile communications, and modern education.


The [[early Church]] did use terms like kindred, brother, brethren, adoption, born again... all of which denote the idea of "kinship-based organization". The [[early Church]] like the [[Church in the wilderness]] united the people in natural systems much like the tribes of [[early Israel]].
The [[early Church]] did use terms like kindred, brother, brethren, adoption, [[born again]]... all of which denote the idea of "kinship-based organization". The [[early Church]] like the [[Church in the wilderness]] united the people in natural systems much like the tribes of [[early Israel]].




== Wobbly wampum ==
=== Wobbly wampum ===




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While there were also good, noble, and moral native Americans they were the exception rather than the rule like all other nations or races of people.
While there were also good, noble, and moral native Americans they were the exception rather than the rule like all other nations or races of people.


To counter the destructive practices of tribalism a believe a wiseman decided the White Pine Confederacy among some of the native American tribes.
To counter the destructive practices of tribalism a believe a wiseman decided the [[Native_American_Confederacy|White Pine Confederacy]] among some of the native American tribes.


http://preparingyou.com/wiki/Native_American_Confederacy
http://preparingyou.com/wiki/Native_American_Confederacy
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There is no race, nor tribe and nation that has a monopoly on righteousness nor unrighteousness. Nor is there any ideology that can long be a substitute for righteousness.
There is no race, nor tribe and nation that has a monopoly on righteousness nor unrighteousness. Nor is there any ideology that can long be a substitute for righteousness.


== Value of virtue ==
== Tribe defined ==
 
Tribes come in all shapes and sizes.
 
There are various definitions of the term tribe:
# A unit of sociopolitical organization consisting of a number of families, clans, or other groups who share a common ancestry and culture and among whom leadership is typically neither formalized nor permanent.
# A political, ethnic, or ancestral division of ancient states and cultures, especially.
# Any of the three divisions of the ancient Romans, namely, the Latin, Sabine, a
nd Etruscan.
 
An ''ethnic group'' is a set of a social group having a common national or cultural tradition but a ''tribe'' is generally a social division consisting of [[family|families]] or [[community|communities]] often linked by blood ties with a common [[culture]] and dialect, having a recognized leader.
 
Rome would also create divisions within society due to class, family, and money.
 
The ''Definition & Meaning'' of '''Tribe''' according to Merriam-Webster was "a social group composed chiefly of numerous families, clans, or generations having a shared ancestry and language." On March 17, 2022
 
These definitions are contested, in part due to conflicting between theoretical understandings of social and kinship structures. But also there are differences that may reflect a problematic application of these concepts in extremely diverse human societies.


Which practices, values, virtues strengthen or  degenerate society.
In [[early Israel]] the people were listed as twelve tribes but all these tribes were not the same. The [[Levites]] as a tribe also played a unique roll in the political and judicial structure of their society that operated as a [[Republic]]. It should also be noted that many Egyptians left with [[Moses]] and the Israelites but seemed to blend into these different tribes with little historical need to distinguish them as a separate tribe or culture.
 
We can also note that while the people who became the [[Church o the wilderness]] were mostly descendants of Levi they were not all blood line descendants.
 
 
=== Value of virtue ===
 
A tribe as "a social group composed chiefly of numerous families" may also have common customs and cultures characteristics that present as different cultural practices identified as certain virtues and values.
 
Which practices, values, [[virtues]] strengthen or  degenerate society?


Is your society tribal?
Is your society tribal?
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Does it include all mankind?
Does it include all mankind?


The self evident truth is all men are created equal.
The self evident truth is all men are created equal but their culture, society or communities are not all equal.




What are the practices, values, and virtues of your tribe and do those value supercede the tribe itself?
What are the practices, values, and virtues of your tribe and do those value supersede the tribe itself?


Does the tribe value appearance over substance and values.
Does the tribe value appearance over substance and values.


Cain and Abel had different values and practices.
[[Cain]] and Abel had different values and practices.
Shepherd vs power of adamah.
 
Abel was a [[Shepherd]] while [[Cain]] had the power to plow the ''adamah''.


The [[Ten Commandments]] could be considered a list of values that define what is virtue and what is not.




== Micro tribe ==
=== The Micro tribe ===


Men and women as a family form a micro tribe.
Men and women as a [[family]] form a ''micro tribe''.


All the same principles that make or break a village, a tribe, or a nation will also play out in the family.
All the same principles that make or break a village, a tribe, or a nation will also play out in the family.
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If a woman has to be a boss in business she may have to take on an assertive character of a male.
If a woman has to be a boss in business she may have to take on an assertive character of a male.


Their female nature experiences an embalance and she may feel a need to be more agreeable out of the office which can be presented as a more passive form of power assertiveness.
Their female nature experiences an imbalance and she may feel a need to be more agreeable out of the office which can be presented as a more passive form of power assertiveness.


This embalance creates a duality in her personality. That dual dinamic may be confusing and may even make a woman vulnerable because by her nature she me feel a need to compensate for that assertiveness when she is not at work.
This imbalance creates a duality in her personality. That dual dynamic may be confusing and may even make a woman vulnerable because by her nature she me feel a need to compensate for that assertiveness when she is not at work.


That wobbling between two different personalities mixed with trauma be even generate a more bipolar pattern.
That wobbling between two different personalities mixed with trauma be even generate a more bipolar pattern.


They may create a feeling or a hidden need to be to more agreeable in their private life to bring balance back.
They may create a feeling or a hidden need to be to more agreeable in their private life to bring balance back.
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Some men, who may also be suffering an internal  may sense that need and manipulate the woman to satisfy feelings in themselves.
Some men, who may also be suffering an internal  may sense that need and manipulate the woman to satisfy feelings in themselves.


Through a narssasistic relationship the may use and even abuse a woman who is not fully aware of the truth about herself.
Through a narcissistic relationship the may use and even abuse a woman who is not fully aware of the truth about herself.


These conflict and emotional confusion may even draw that kind of man to them.
These conflict and emotional confusion may even draw that kind of man to them.


Patterns will often repeat until something occurs to break the cycle.
Patterns will often repeat until something occurs to break the cycle.
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=== Tribes of angels and demons ===
In Federalism 51<Ref name="fed51">"But the great security against a gradual concentration of the several powers in the same department, consists in giving to those who administer each department the necessary constitutional means and personal motives to resist encroachments of the others. The provision for defense must in this, as in all other cases, be made commensurate to the danger of attack. Ambition must be made to counteract ambition. The interest of the man must be connected with the constitutional rights of the place. It may be a reflection on human nature, that such devices should be necessary to control the abuses of government. But what is government itself, but the greatest of all reflections on human nature? '''If men were angels, no government would be necessary. If angels were to govern men, neither external nor internal controls on government would be necessary.''' In framing a government which is to be '''administered by men over men''', the great difficulty lies in this: you must first '''enable the government to control the governed; and in the next place oblige it to control itself.''' ''A dependence on the people is, no doubt, the primary control on the government''; but experience has taught mankind the necessity of auxiliary precautions. This policy of supplying, by opposite and rival interests, the defect of better motives, might be traced through the whole system of human affairs, private as well as public. We see it particularly displayed in all the subordinate distributions of power, where the constant aim is to divide and arrange the several offices in such a manner as that each may be a check on the other that the private interest of every individual may be a sentinel over the public rights. These inventions of prudence cannot be less requisite in the distribution of the supreme powers of the State. But it is not possible to give to each department an equal power of self-defense. In republican government, the legislative authority necessarily predominates. The remedy for this inconveniency is to divide the legislature into different branches; and to render them, by different modes of election and different principles of action, as little connected with each other as the nature of their common functions and their common dependence on the society will admit." FEDERALIST NO. 51 Madison</Ref> Madison writes about the devices that lead to tyranny or freedom. All roads lead to [[Rome]], the [[bondage of Egypt]], [[Sodom]]. and [[Babylon]] but they also lead to the [[Kingdom of God]] and liberty under God.
The differences is the choice of '''direction''' we choose to go.
His concern was that there would be a "gradual concentration of the several powers". We know that all the powers of governments comes from those powers that were endowed by God upon the individual.
Some will tell you that "Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God." NIV.
The King James Version of the same [[Romans 13]] is translated and “Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.”
The primary definition of the word [[exousia]] is the "power of choice, liberty of doing as one pleases". The word [[exousia]]  in the same Bible is translated ''power, authority, right, liberty, jurisdiction, and strength''. The term most often refers to the power of Jesus.
God endowed individuals with the ''right to choose'' but often men choose to give that ''power to choose'' to governments by some form of [[apply|application]] or [[consent]]. Men then are the creators of government, not God. The Bible is filled with [[warnings]] about giving [[consent]], [[covetous practices]] and eating of the [[dainties]] of rulers. Or even just being [[slothful]] in [[the way]] of [[righteousness]].
Madison goes on to ask the question of "what is government itself" and goes onto mention the significance of "the greatest of all reflections on human nature"<Ref name="fed51"><Ref> being essential to answering that question.
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== Footnotes ==
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Latest revision as of 10:36, 8 December 2022

Tribalism has a variety of cultures and values which produces a variety of outcomes. Abram had left Ur and also Haran which were city states and he seems to become part of a unique tribal system. He also avoided other city states like Sodom and Gomorrah.
What was he doing and why was he able to defeat whole armies that had just conquered these city State governments when he was neither a king nor ruler?
What was Abraham really doing?
Did he form a free "Polis" through a network of Altars strengthen the bands of society through pure Religion?
Download Recording on Tribalism or press play


Tribalism

Tribalism is "the state or fact of being organized in a tribe or tribes."

So, Tribalism can be said to be the state of being organized in or an advocate for a traditional society consisting of families or groups families which form communities with shared values.

In terms of conformity, tribalism may also refer in popular cultural terms to a way of thinking or behaving in which people are loyal to their own tribe or social group or to common values and accepted cultural virtues.

The early Christian community was composed of such tribes much like early Israel although the word tribe was seldom used because the emphasis was upon the doctrines of Jesus. A community was because they shared a common communion. Communion was was the daily bread of a society. A Christian communion is based on the Eucharist of Christ which was provided through the Pure Religion of the Corban of Christ.

Tribalism has been defined as "a 'way of being' based upon variable combinations of kinship-based organization, reciprocal exchange, manual production, oral communication and analogical enquiry."

Being brothers in Christ and the way of Jesus giving them a kinship based on the values and virtues of Christ. The social bonds of Christians were nurtured by a daily ministration of Pure Religion practiced through the perfect law of liberty by the way of fervent charity.

Tribalism in a derogatory sense is said to be "a society motivated by cultural tribalism".

What is the culture of the tribe of Abraham and Melchizedek?


Cycles of society

Hard times produce strong men
Strong men produce good times
Good times produce weak men
Weak men produce hard times.

In tribalism Culture matters.

But what is culture and where does it come from?

What features could you include in your culture to prevent the reproduction of this endless cycle.

The elements of a Godly culture would include the rudiments of a righteous system to prevent that cycle of success in failure?

What keeps an individual or a tribe from a cycle of prosperity and failure?

Is your Baptism in your tribe the same as John the Baptist or was it like the baptism of Herod?


Reason and modernisms

Ages of reason and enlightenment may come and go. They are marked by the hope of moving toward truth and perfection.

Rebellion against reason or the standards it claims to produce can be called modernism which is a supposedly "modern character or quality of thought, expression, or technique:" exemplified in a movement in the arts that aims to break with classical and traditional forms attempted to modify traditional beliefs in accordance with what would be called modern ideas.

Many modernist ideas claimed to have as a goal the liberation of mankind from the cultures of the past. The removal of those social standards of morality opened the door to the covetous practices of socialism and communism.

Postmodernism was a further departure from modernism and has at its heart a claimed distrust of grand theories and ideologies as well as a nihilist relationship with any notion heavily manipulated by deconstructionist denying all power, rights, and standards but who secretly desire to recreate a society where they have all power.

Postmodernism do not believe in the individual, logic, and dialogue. while claiming inclusion they divide all individuals in to groups of identity.

An ideology is a system of ideas and ideals, especially one which forms the basis of economic or political theory and policy: There is no part of this definitions determines the value of ideas nor their outcome when implemented. Ultimately "ideology" is the opinion of the individuals or collectively.

Despite postmodernism's ambition to believe human nature is a social construct and through social engineering man may be recreated in the desired form of the woke postmodernist... The truth is it is the human soul that constructs the manifested human nature.

As young people and children we are often given rules to protect us. Throwing out those social rules can produce disasters within society.

The survival of a tribe will often be determined by a generational acceptance of those cultural rules or guideposts or the often subjective interpretation of those rules.

The Bible is certainly an example of this subjective interpretation. The Ten Commandments is one example.

City to tribe

Abraham left Ur and Haran which were cities and went out and did something different with his Altars of Clay and stone. Many of the civil society collected in the city states often became a City of blood through the covetous practices of legal charity as if they had one purse.

Customary tribes have their social foundations in some variation of tribal orientations based in common values and beliefs, while often taking on traditional practices (e.g. Abrahamic religions such as Christianity and Judaism), and modern practices, including monetary exchange, mobile communications, and modern education.

The early Church did use terms like kindred, brother, brethren, adoption, born again... all of which denote the idea of "kinship-based organization". The early Church like the Church in the wilderness united the people in natural systems much like the tribes of early Israel.


Wobbly wampum

The myth of the "Noble Redman" is a worthy story in the creation of heroes for the next generation, but it remains a fiction from an historical perspective.

Tribalism and all it produces contradicted any idea of universal egalitarianism among the native American people who were killing, invading, enslaving, raping, and oppressing each other from one end of the Americas to the other.

While there were also good, noble, and moral native Americans they were the exception rather than the rule like all other nations or races of people.

To counter the destructive practices of tribalism a believe a wiseman decided the White Pine Confederacy among some of the native American tribes.

http://preparingyou.com/wiki/Native_American_Confederacy

There is no race, nor tribe and nation that has a monopoly on righteousness nor unrighteousness. Nor is there any ideology that can long be a substitute for righteousness.

Tribe defined

Tribes come in all shapes and sizes.

There are various definitions of the term tribe:

  1. A unit of sociopolitical organization consisting of a number of families, clans, or other groups who share a common ancestry and culture and among whom leadership is typically neither formalized nor permanent.
  2. A political, ethnic, or ancestral division of ancient states and cultures, especially.
  3. Any of the three divisions of the ancient Romans, namely, the Latin, Sabine, a

nd Etruscan.

An ethnic group is a set of a social group having a common national or cultural tradition but a tribe is generally a social division consisting of families or communities often linked by blood ties with a common culture and dialect, having a recognized leader.

Rome would also create divisions within society due to class, family, and money.

The Definition & Meaning of Tribe according to Merriam-Webster was "a social group composed chiefly of numerous families, clans, or generations having a shared ancestry and language." On March 17, 2022

These definitions are contested, in part due to conflicting between theoretical understandings of social and kinship structures. But also there are differences that may reflect a problematic application of these concepts in extremely diverse human societies.

In early Israel the people were listed as twelve tribes but all these tribes were not the same. The Levites as a tribe also played a unique roll in the political and judicial structure of their society that operated as a Republic. It should also be noted that many Egyptians left with Moses and the Israelites but seemed to blend into these different tribes with little historical need to distinguish them as a separate tribe or culture.

We can also note that while the people who became the Church o the wilderness were mostly descendants of Levi they were not all blood line descendants.


Value of virtue

A tribe as "a social group composed chiefly of numerous families" may also have common customs and cultures characteristics that present as different cultural practices identified as certain virtues and values.

Which practices, values, virtues strengthen or degenerate society?

Is your society tribal?

Does it include all mankind?

The self evident truth is all men are created equal but their culture, society or communities are not all equal.


What are the practices, values, and virtues of your tribe and do those value supersede the tribe itself?

Does the tribe value appearance over substance and values.

Cain and Abel had different values and practices.

Abel was a Shepherd while Cain had the power to plow the adamah.

The Ten Commandments could be considered a list of values that define what is virtue and what is not.


The Micro tribe

Men and women as a family form a micro tribe.

All the same principles that make or break a village, a tribe, or a nation will also play out in the family.

A man is assertive by his male nature. His hormones genetically and biologically design him so. But we are not just genetic and biological.

If a woman has to be a boss in business she may have to take on an assertive character of a male.

Their female nature experiences an imbalance and she may feel a need to be more agreeable out of the office which can be presented as a more passive form of power assertiveness.

This imbalance creates a duality in her personality. That dual dynamic may be confusing and may even make a woman vulnerable because by her nature she me feel a need to compensate for that assertiveness when she is not at work.

That wobbling between two different personalities mixed with trauma be even generate a more bipolar pattern.

They may create a feeling or a hidden need to be to more agreeable in their private life to bring balance back.

Some men, who may also be suffering an internal may sense that need and manipulate the woman to satisfy feelings in themselves.

Through a narcissistic relationship the may use and even abuse a woman who is not fully aware of the truth about herself.

These conflict and emotional confusion may even draw that kind of man to them.

Patterns will often repeat until something occurs to break the cycle.




Tribes of angels and demons

In Federalism 51[1] Madison writes about the devices that lead to tyranny or freedom. All roads lead to Rome, the bondage of Egypt, Sodom. and Babylon but they also lead to the Kingdom of God and liberty under God.

The differences is the choice of direction we choose to go.

His concern was that there would be a "gradual concentration of the several powers". We know that all the powers of governments comes from those powers that were endowed by God upon the individual.

Some will tell you that "Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God." NIV.

The King James Version of the same Romans 13 is translated and “Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.”

The primary definition of the word exousia is the "power of choice, liberty of doing as one pleases". The word exousia in the same Bible is translated power, authority, right, liberty, jurisdiction, and strength. The term most often refers to the power of Jesus.

God endowed individuals with the right to choose but often men choose to give that power to choose to governments by some form of application or consent. Men then are the creators of government, not God. The Bible is filled with warnings about giving consent, covetous practices and eating of the dainties of rulers. Or even just being slothful in the way of righteousness.

Madison goes on to ask the question of "what is government itself" and goes onto mention the significance of "the greatest of all reflections on human nature"<Ref name="fed51"><Ref> being essential to answering that question.





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  1. "But the great security against a gradual concentration of the several powers in the same department, consists in giving to those who administer each department the necessary constitutional means and personal motives to resist encroachments of the others. The provision for defense must in this, as in all other cases, be made commensurate to the danger of attack. Ambition must be made to counteract ambition. The interest of the man must be connected with the constitutional rights of the place. It may be a reflection on human nature, that such devices should be necessary to control the abuses of government. But what is government itself, but the greatest of all reflections on human nature? If men were angels, no government would be necessary. If angels were to govern men, neither external nor internal controls on government would be necessary. In framing a government which is to be administered by men over men, the great difficulty lies in this: you must first enable the government to control the governed; and in the next place oblige it to control itself. A dependence on the people is, no doubt, the primary control on the government; but experience has taught mankind the necessity of auxiliary precautions. This policy of supplying, by opposite and rival interests, the defect of better motives, might be traced through the whole system of human affairs, private as well as public. We see it particularly displayed in all the subordinate distributions of power, where the constant aim is to divide and arrange the several offices in such a manner as that each may be a check on the other that the private interest of every individual may be a sentinel over the public rights. These inventions of prudence cannot be less requisite in the distribution of the supreme powers of the State. But it is not possible to give to each department an equal power of self-defense. In republican government, the legislative authority necessarily predominates. The remedy for this inconveniency is to divide the legislature into different branches; and to render them, by different modes of election and different principles of action, as little connected with each other as the nature of their common functions and their common dependence on the society will admit." FEDERALIST NO. 51 Madison