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What is an important topic for those who are seeking the kingdom of God and his righteousness? Or those who want to be free souls under God?

The topics included immigration and Open borders and how the way of the kingdom of God will solve those problems.

Open Topic: HHC Q&A #9 – Open Topic

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Immigration to liberty

The Statue of Liberty holds a torch to guide mankind to liberty and freedom and is inscribed with the poetic words,

"Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free..." "JULY IV MDCCLXXVI"

It does not call nor is it meant to welcome the masses with an appetite for benefits who are yearning for free entitlements at the expense of others nor any desire to take from other Americans the independence proclaimed on the date inscribed on the tablet in its other arm. https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1Z9P2VDdFJ/

What has been the financial impact of ignoring the constitutional immigration laws of the United States?

Even without the fraud and criminal activities of many, the loss of life and human trafficking, and drugs it has been in the multi hundreds of billions of dollars but before all is said and done it will likely exceed trillions of dollars. The cost of removal is tiny fraction and will produce a positive net gain.

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Milton Friedman noted that before 1914, immigration functioned well largely because there was no welfare system. Immigrants came to work and support themselves. In contrast, he argued that in a modern welfare state, immigration policy becomes more complex, as newcomers may have access to public benefits without necessarily contributing economically.

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Steven Miller on Miorcas voter importation and California criminals and dishonors detainers. https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1RAZ9aqpVo/

Asking for identification

ICE officers can ask for identification, and while U.S. citizens aren't required by federal law to carry ID, non-citizens 18 and over must carry their immigration documents; however, you can be detained if they have reasonable suspicion you're in the U.S. illegally, even if you don't have documents, so it's often safest to show proof of citizenship or status if asked, but passengers generally aren't required to provide info unless detained, though officers can use ruses to get you to self-identify.

U.S. Citizens

You are not federally required to carry ID, but if detained, you might be held while they verify your status.

Non-Citizens

If you're 18 or older and have valid immigration documents, the law requires you to carry them, and you should show them to an ICE officer if asked, according to the ACLU.

Passengers or occupants

As a occupant, you don't have to show ID, but ICE can detain you to check your status, making it safer to provide documents to prevent delays.

Reasonable Suspicion

ICE officers can detain anyone if they have "reasonable suspicion" that the person is in the U.S. without authorization, even if you refuse to show ID.

Reasonable Suspicion is a legal standard requiring specific, articulable facts—not mere hunches or stereotypes—that would lead an officer to suspect a person is in violation of immigration law. This Suspicion may be based on the "totality of the circumstances" including "Proximity", "attempting to flee", "Evasive Driving", "Deer-in-the-headlights" Reaction including an extreme surprise or panic upon seeing a patrol car, association with other illegals, even if the number of passengers exceeds the capacity of the vehicle or passengers are hiding, may add to reasonable suspicion but certainly any information from reliable sources or informants would add weight to Reasonable Suspicion.

While Race or Ethnicity alone is insufficient by itself accompanied with any of these other articulable facts so that the suspicion is "Particularized" to a certain individual.

Undocumented immigrant

Just being an undocumented immigrant in the United States can be classified as a "civil offense" and not "criminal". The primary penalty is being deported.

However, "Improper entry" like "Crossing the border without inspection by an immigration officer is a federal misdemeanor" which even on a first offense can result in up to six months in prison.

Rights of illegals

Illegal immigrants do not have all the same rights as U.S. citizens, but they are protected by some Constitutional rights, such as the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments' Due Process Clauses, which apply to all "persons" in the U.S.. While illegals have committed the crime of being in the country their Immigration removal proceedings are civil and there for do not require paid attorney or counsel.

Illegal immigrants have some rights listed in the constitution including due process but the application and extent of these rights differ significantly in immigration proceedings, which are civil, not criminal, leading to less protections such as access to legal counsel which is not guaranteed.

Reenters

Any individual who reenters the U.S. after having been previously deported can be imprisoned for two years or more if the person has a prior criminal record.

So, yes, entering a country without authorization can be a crime, though the specific consequences vary. In the U.S., the act of illegal entry is under 8 U.S.C. § 1325, which can lead to fines and/or imprisonment, particularly for a first offense. Re-entering the country after a previous deportation is a separate, more serious felony offense.

These penalties are law in the United States. While they may seem sever they are fearless than the penalties required by most countries including the Vatican which can be more than ten times that of the penalties applied in the United States.

Asylum

Understanding the law requires your due diligence in reading the law such as Title 8 CFR § 1208.20 - Determining if an asylum application is frivolous. The withholding order may be terminated pursuant to Title 8 CFR 208.24 or § 1208.24 or deferral is terminated pursuant to 8 CFR 208.17 or § 1208.17(d) or (e) and other subsequent rules and procedures.

Pending asylum applicants in the U.S. generally remain during processing, but they may be removed if their application is denied by an immigration judge, if they violate conditions of their stay, or if they leave the U.S. without advance parole. Additionally, recent policies restrict asylum access for those crossing the border illegally, and certain individuals may be detained or subjected to expedited removal.

• Final Denial: Once an immigration judge denies the asylum claim, the authorization to remain ends.
• Abandonment: Leaving the United States without obtaining Advance Parole (Form I-131) causes the application to be deemed abandoned.
• Criminal Activity: Committing certain crimes, particularly aggravated felonies, can lead to detention and expedited removal.
• Border Restrictions: Individuals who cross the border between ports of entry without prior authorization may be ineligible for asylum and subjected to faster removal, regardless of a pending application Under recent executive actions (2024-2025).
• Failed Credible Fear Screening: If an applicant does not pass their initial credible fear interview, they may be removed.
• No legal status: While a pending application allows for a authorized stay, it does not provide legal immigration status.
• Detention Risk: Having a pending application does not prevent the government from detaining an individual.
• Voluntary Departure: In some cases, individuals may be allowed to leave the country voluntarily instead of being formally removed.
• If a person fails to appear for any of their court hearing, an in absentia removal order can be issued.
• Immigrants can be deported while waiting for asylum, especially if you commit a crime, have a prior disqualifying offense, engage in terrorism, or if the government closes your case and initiates expedited removal.

Expedited Legal removal

Expedited Removal: This process allows low-level immigration officers to deport certain non-citizens without a hearing before an immigration judge. The expedited removal is legal, having been authorized by the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996. Stipulated Removal: This process allows immigrants to agree to a deportation order quickly, often without the assistance of an attorney or the opportunity to appear before a judge.

Lack of Legal Counsel

Unlike criminal court, the Sixth Amendment does not guarantee court-appointed counsel in immigration proceedings. This means many people face deportation without an attorney to protect their rights; estimates show that a large majority of detainees are unrepresented.

Individual self deports

If an individual self deports in many cases the US will provide aid and assistance. Then all the people who want to support their return to the US they may voluntarily sponsor their legal return through appropriate legal channels.

Enter Vatican City

"To enter Vatican City, you need valid entry into Italy, a ticket for attractions like the Vatican Museums or St. Peter's Basilica, a valid photo ID, and appropriate attire (shoulders and knees covered). Security checks with metal detectors are required, and visitors should bring only small bags. You must book tickets for attractions in advance and arrive on time for your scheduled entry. " "For Non-EU Citizens (e.g., USA, Australia) Check Visa Requirements: You will need an appropriate Schengen visa for Italy, as Vatican City is within Italy. Obtain Tickets: Purchase tickets in advance for the Vatican Museums or St. Peter's Basilica. Provide ID: Have a valid photo ID (like a passport) to match the name on your ticket. Dress Appropriately: Wear clothing that covers your shoulders, knees, and legs; hats are not permitted. Attend Security: Be prepared for metal detector security checks and only bring small bags. Book a Tour: Booking a guided tour can provide better access, including potential shortcuts to St. Peter's Basilica from the Sistine Chapel. "

Illegally entering Vatican City can result in imprisonment (up to four years), a fine of up to €25,000 (approximately $25,700), and a ban on re-entry to Vatican territory for up to 15 years. Penalties are increased for more serious offenses, such as using firearms, corrosive substances, or entering with a disguise. For unauthorized overflights or drone use, penalties can also include prison sentences of six months to three years.

Entering the U.S. illegally is a federal offense with potential penalties including fines, deportation, and imprisonment for up to six months for a first offense, and up to two years for subsequent offenses. Additionally, there are civil penalties of at least $50 per entry, and those previously subject to a civil penalty face double the amount.

An illegal entry into the United States can result in a 3-year, 10-year, or permanent ban on reentry, depending on the specifics of the violation. The ban is triggered when you leave the U.S. and is applied when you attempt to return legally. Types of entry bans 3-year ban: You may be barred for three years if you voluntarily leave the U.S. after being unlawfully present for more than 180 days but less than one year. 10-year ban: This bar applies if you depart the U.S. after being unlawfully present for one year or more. It can be triggered whether your departure is voluntary or the result of a removal order. Permanent ban: You can be permanently barred from legal reentry if you do one of the following:

Reenter or attempt to reenter the U.S. illegally after having already accumulated more than one year of unlawful presence.

Reenter illegally after being previously deported or removed.

Additional penalties In addition to a ban on reentry, other serious consequences can apply:

• Immediate removal: You may be immediately deported to your home country.
• Criminal charges: Illegal entry or reentry is a federal crime. Repeat violations can lead to severe prison sentences.
• Detention: You can be detained by Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and may remain in custody while awaiting a decision from an immigration judge.

For all member of government

Until the government changes the laws on immigration illegal immigrants should be deported based on that law US 8 U.S.C. § 1325.

Therefore citizens of the united States must allow the unobstructed deportations in compliance with the published law of the United States. To impede or obstruct or otherwise not allowing authorized Federal officers with a plenary directive (of Article 1 Section 8 subsection 3, 4, and 11 and Article IV subsection 4) to do their job is a crime.

Obstruction or impeding an officer is a felony and crime and is not a Right?

To encourage others to impede or obstruct is also a crime.

People who care until it costs them time, money or property are the epitome of hypocrisy.

I mean if you care about immigrants you can legally sponsor an immigrant like we have done or break the law. The latter is a crime that may cause harm to you and others.

Organize or help to organize a group that advocates for a change in the law and an alternate version of righteousness may seek to do so. But they should not be in rebellion and judgment.

Impeding or Obstruction

Obstruction or impeding an officer is a felony and crime and is and is an arrestable offence. Refusing to obey lawful orders or resisting arrest with violence is compounds the felonies.

Obstruction of a federal officer is a federal crime defined under Title 18, Chapter 73 of the U.S. Code, which encompasses various acts that impede federal law enforcement, judicial, or other governmental functions. This includes actions such as assaulting, resisting, or intimidating officers performing their duties, corruptly influencing proceedings before federal agencies or Congress, tampering with witnesses, or obstructing court orders.

https://preparingyou.com/wiki/Insurrection#USC_Sections_on_Obstruction

Seditious activities

The Smith Act (18 U.S.C. § 2385), also known as the Alien Registration Act of 1940, criminalizes advocating, teaching, or helping to organize the overthrow of the U.S. government by force or violence, and publishing material that encourages such actions, making it a federal crime to conspire or act to subvert the government through force. It specifically targets seditious activities, establishing penalties for those who knowingly promote the destruction of the government through illegal means.

Notes

You destroy the family, the community and liberty when you make the state your daddy. You also degenerate into savages and victims dragging your nation to a pit of destruction. https://preparingyou.com/wiki/Degenerate

Milton Friedman on the Border

“Milton Friedman on the Border” is a video that features Nobel Prize-winning economist Milton Friedman discussing immigration and the US-Mexico border. Today most of those family farm were driven out of business by government policies created by foreign and domestic lobbyists and corrupt politicians. https://youtu.be/dArT3pkeNMc?si=EJxZ9UQR6QSmUN5P

The Statue of Liberty does says "Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free..." It is not a welcome for the masses with an appetite for benefits who yearning for entitlements at the expense of others. https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1Z9P2VDdFJ/

Compassion for profit is not love

While an exact total is unavailable, major Catholic-controlled NGOs and organizations received billions in taxpayer funds, including over $1.4 billion in Paycheck Protection Program (PPP) loans by July 2020 and over $4.6 billion to Catholic Relief Services from USAID between 2013-2022. Other entities like Catholic Charities and the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB) also receive tens of millions annually for services like migrant resettlement.

An Associated Press analysis found that U.S. Catholic entities received at least $1.4 billion (and likely more than $3.5 billion) in taxpayer-backed Paycheck Protection Program (PPP) loans during the pandemic.

In 2019, the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB) received $52.7 million in U.S. government grants, much of which was passed on to local Catholic organizations for migrant and refugee services.

Catholic Charities USA received $1.4 billion in government funding in one year, compared to $1 billion in private donations.

Revocation of naturalization

Revocation of naturalization can occur only in federal courts, it said, adding that denaturalization can be pursued through a civil proceeding or as a result of a criminal conviction.

Two factors typically constitute the general grounds for revocation of naturalization, according to the USCIS, illegal procurement of naturalization or concealment of a material fact or willful misrepresentation.

It would seem that misrepresentation would also include falsely taking the oath of citizenship and allegiance.

USCIS announced it had revised the naturalization test requirements that applicants must pass to become American citizens.

Applicants must take two tests administered by the agency—one for English language skills and another for civics knowledge.

“Our new version of the test will ensure all new citizens understand the privilege of citizenship and what it means to be an American.”

NASEM–Cato model

NASEM–Cato model is the Annual Social and Economic Supplement from the US Census Bureau’s Current Population Survey.

If you followed the CATO claiming to be a liberal institution for years. It has promoted "open borders" for a long time. They have taken money from G. Soros and other sympathetic groups and has been a guest speaker. CATO's figures are deceptive because they do not look at the human cost data and the age demographics claiming "immigrants consume 24% less in total welfare and entitlements per capita than native-born Americans" but do not fully consider the large welfare cost is the aged population who have worked their whole life and are now the "capita native-born Americans" consuming at there peak.

The Cato Institute's 2026 report on the fiscal impact of immigration (1994–2023) used a static accounting model that focused on direct taxes paid versus benefits received.

Cato Institute Report Did Not Consider or Include Indirect Economic Effects, so that the analysis primarily counts benefits received by the immigrant, but often excludes the benefits used by their U.S.-born dependent children. Critics argue this significantly understates the total fiscal burden, as these children have full access to welfare programs. It also did not account for the fiscal costs of U.S.-born children of immigrants, which critics argue understates overall welfare usage.

The fiscal impact of immigration (1994–2023) includes years of vetted immigration where they recover losses over time but does not consider the millions upon millions of unvetted immigrants that flooded in after 2020 and the nature of their demographics and the goal of those who enticed and funded them.

Skewing Data

Immigration to the U.S. over the last 20 years has generally averaged 1 million people annually, with significant unprecedented surges recently that were not a natural part of immigration. The total foreign-born population reached a record high of over 53 million by January 2025. Recent data shows over 11 million immigrants arrived between 2020 and 2025, with 2023 seeing a record 3+ million new arrivals from unclear sources are virtually unaccounted for in NASEM–Cato model.

The years of heavily vetted immigration and some illegal immigration for work purposes skew the data and numbers.

Where generally immigration does not bring a large criminal element, crackdowns in El Salvador caused large numbers of gang members to flee to the US. U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and federal partners reported arresting individuals with serious criminal convictions or pending charges, including members of transnational gangs like MS-13 and Tren de Aragua during recent operations.

ICE data shows that a significant majority (over 75% in some periods and areas) of individuals booked into custody had no criminal convictions other than immigration or traffic offenses. They will say that less than 10% were convicted of serious violent or sexual crimes in some areas.

A list of non-violent, and non-sexual crimes are generally classified as property offenses, white-collar crimes, or public order offenses, focusing on theft, deceit, or violation of societal rules rather than physical harm. Examples include embezzlement, large-scale fraud, burglary, high-level drug trafficking, arson, and money laundering. This would include fraud like the Somali fraud that has stolen millions, or burglary, shop lifting would still be serious but would again skew the data.

The truth is in sanctuary cities where the local police do not honor ICE detainers assisting ICE the federal officers are forced to seek to arrest these criminals at homes and business where they find additional illegal immigrants. That process and not counting embezzlement, fraud, burglary, drug trafficking, arson, and money laundering then you will get a lower percentage of "criminals" deported. Where local police cooperate the percentage of criminals deported are much higher.

Venezuela opened their prisoners and other countries encouraged and financed their own criminals to take advantage of the open border in the US. While crime and drugs increased in sanctuary cities it has been going down where immigration and local authorities cooperate with ICE.

NASEM–Cato reports often suffer from ideological bias, rushed methodologies, or political motives rather than objective analysis. Just some criticisms focus on the reliance on static modeling, the overstatement of government efficacy, and the exclusion of broader economic context.

Purpose driven

All this is academic since the open borders are meant to change voter blocks within the US to more socialist thinkers.

The larger families were becoming the millions of homeschooler with a more right wing approach of personal responsibility and less dependence on government. The Democrats and socialists have the lower birth rate, here and in Europe they needed a new covetous prone population in future elections. They also want chaos and allowed the influx of a criminal element at the same time they were lowering crime statistics by lowering prosecutions and law enforcement.

A real Christians community like the early Church would be counter their goal.

“Milton Friedman on the Border” changed his view in a video that features the Nobel Prize-winning economist discussing immigration and the US-Mexico border. Today thousands of those family farms were driven out of business by government policies created by foreign and domestic lobbyists and corrupt politicians. https://youtu.be/dArT3pkeNMc?si=EJxZ9UQR6QSmUN5P