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[[Christians]] were beginning to [[Repent]] and formed a free way to govern themselves and take [[care]] of their social [[Welfare|welfare]] through [[charity]] alone which strengthened them as a free [[society]]. | [[Christians]] were beginning to [[Repent]] and formed a free way to govern themselves and take [[care]] of their social [[Welfare|welfare]] through [[charity]] alone which strengthened them as a free [[society]]. | ||
Christians knew that if they followed those [[covetous practices|covetous ways]] of [[legal charity]] that "... their table [would] become a [[snare]] before them: and that which should have been for their [[welfare]], ... [would] become a trap."<Ref>Psalm 69:22 Let their table become a snare before them: and that which should have been for their welfare, let it become a trap. 23 Let their eyes be darkened, that they see not; and make their loins continually to shake. | Christians knew that if they followed those [[covetous practices|covetous ways]] of [[legal charity]] that "... their table [would] become a [[snare]] before them: and that which should have been for their [[welfare]], ... [would] become a trap."<Ref name="dark">[[Psalm 69]]:22 Let their table become a snare before them: and that which should have been for their welfare, let it become a trap. 23 Let their eyes be darkened, that they see not; and make their loins continually to shake. | ||
: Romans 11:9 And David saith, Let their table be made a snare, and a trap, and a stumbling block, and a recompence unto them: 10 Let their eyes be darkened, that they may not see, and bow down their back alway.</Ref> | : [[Romans 11]]:9 And David saith, Let their table be made a snare, and a trap, and a stumbling block, and a recompence unto them: 10 Let their eyes be darkened, that they may not see, and bow down their back alway.</Ref> | ||
Have the people's eyes been darkened? | Have the people's eyes been darkened?<Ref name="dark"></Ref> | ||
People have become weak as individuals and as a society for reasons we have known since at least [[Polybius]] and [[Plutarch]] who warned the that the [[benefits]] of rulers would "degenerate" and "ruin" them. | People have become weak as individuals and as a society for reasons we have known since at least [[Polybius]] and [[Plutarch]] who warned the that the [[benefits]] of rulers would "degenerate" and "ruin" them. | ||
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There is no logical, ethical or scientific element to the use of this [[force]]. The question is how come they have been and continue to get away with it? | There is no logical, ethical or scientific element to the use of this [[force]]. The question is how come they have been and continue to get away with it? | ||
We know that the prophecy is their eyes will be darkened. | We know that the prophecy is their eyes will be darkened.<Ref name="dark"></Ref> | ||
Remember Apostasy is often both "religious or political" at the same time. | Remember [[Apostasy]] is often both "religious or political" at the same time. | ||
There has been the [[instrmentum]] of rulers that is made possible by the unmooring of the truth from the metaphor and leaving only supertion in it's wake. | |||
We have been in religious and political Apostasy for generations. Since before [[FDR]] Americans and the world have been degenerating as free societies because they do not love nor respect their neighbor's rights as much as the love the [[wages of unrighteousness]]. | We have been in religious and political Apostasy for generations. Since before [[FDR]] Americans and the world have been degenerating as free societies because they do not love nor respect their neighbor's rights as much as the love the [[wages of unrighteousness]]. | ||
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His writings have been misused by the Apostate church of Constantine to suggest that Jesus set up a Church that exercise authority one over the other. Why was he martyred? What was the Christian conflict with Rome?
But the Bible itself has been used by religious and political rulers alike by altering the meaning of words like religion, worship, republic and democracy to more easily lead the people away from the truth again and back into bondage.
Apostasy
Apostasy is about other people's Religion or churches or beliefs.
Right?
It is not your church or view of religion because you practice pure Religion.
Or do you?
What is Religion?
Their seems to be a variety of definitions[1] which change over time.
Is apostasy just about religion?
What is Apostasy?
- a·pos·ta·sy
- noun: apostasy; plural noun: apostasies
- the abandonment or renunciation of a religious or political belief.
Middle English: from ecclesiastical Latin apostasia, from a late Greek alteration of Greek apostasis ‘defection.’
"The hand of the diligent shall bear rule: but the slothful shall be under tribute."[2]
So an individual may be in apostasy if they are in "religious or political" ‘defection.’
Early Americans considered America a Republic and saw their local, state and national government as playing a very limited roll in their society and their lives. For the first part of their history a Democracy was considered to be a bad thing to be avoided.
Many have pondered the question of what made America great:
"I sought for the greatness and genius of America in her commodious harbors and her ample rivers, and it was not there… in her fertile fields and boundless forests, and it was not there…in her rich mines and her vast world commerce, and it was not there… in her democratic Congress and her matchless Constitution, and it was not there. Not until I went into the churches of America and heard her pulpits flame with righteousness did I understand the secret of her genius and power. America is great because America is good; and if America ever ceases to be good, America will cease to be great."
This quote was attributed to Alexis de Tocqueville in the book The Kingdom of God and the American Dream by Sherwood Eddy which was published in 1941.
It appeared again on November 3, 1952 in a final campaign address in Boston by Dwight D. Eisenhower.
It similarly was quoted in A Third Treasury of the Familiar by Ralph L. Woods, published in 1970.
Presidents Reagan, and even Bill Clinton among many others have quoted the line not just because they thought Alexis wrote it but because they believed it was true.
Others traveling through America in 1834 did write an almost identical quote at the same time as Tocqueville was touring America:
“America will be great if America is good. If not, her greatness will vanish away like a morning cloud.”[3]
In every turn of the writings of Alexis, he saw “Individual charity is a powerful agency that must not be despised,” and that “Any measure that establishes legal charity on a permanent basis and gives it administrative form thereby creates an idle and lazy class, living at the expense of the industrial and working class."[4]
"Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy." Ezekiel 16:49
This thinking of the dangers of a social safety net provided by a welfare State was common in early America but America today ignore the immorality of the welfare State and its social safety netvthrough "legal charity".
The constituents of David Crockett understood the essential character of a free people to maintain a free society was the practice offervent charity through private welfare.
Throughout history we know that it is not the slothful who maintain liberty. Even early Israel was a republic depending on basic moral ethics of freewill offerings as opposed to those forced by a ruler. When they called for a ruler to maintain its liberty its liberty was soon lost.
Americans may still use the words of freedom and liberty but they do not know what they mean and what they require of the people to be true?
Even, “Augustus [Caesar] was sensible that mankind is governed by names; nor was he deceived in his expectation, that the senate and people would submit to slavery, provided they were respectfully assured that they still enjoyed their ancient freedom.”[5]
The early Church before it was corrupted and went into apostasy was the way that required the people who counted themselves Christian to depend upon each other through a network of love. They had been organized as Christ commanded in small intimate groups of tens that operated by faith, hope, and charity and the Perfect law of liberty which was talked about by Paul.
Early Christians did not force their neighbors to contribute to their welfare with benefits as the socialist state of Rome and their free bread. There religion remained pure because it was not "spotted" by the "world" of Rome.
Christians were beginning to Repent and formed a free way to govern themselves and take care of their social welfare through charity alone which strengthened them as a free society.
Christians knew that if they followed those covetous ways of legal charity that "... their table [would] become a snare before them: and that which should have been for their welfare, ... [would] become a trap."[6]
Have the people's eyes been darkened?[6]
People have become weak as individuals and as a society for reasons we have known since at least Polybius and Plutarch who warned the that the benefits of rulers would "degenerate" and "ruin" them.
But the people and their False religions did not heed these warnings of the wise, the ways ancients [7] from the prophets to Proverbs[8] or from John the Baptist to Jesus and His apostles the idea of coveting your neighbors' goods through men who [exercise authority]] one over the other has been forbidden.
The captivity of lies
We were told that the covetous practices of legal charity would make us merchandise and curse children. We would be again entangled in the yoke of bondage and captivity like the bondage of Egypt.
This precept of not coveting your neighbor's goods was repeated over and over throughout the testaments but the modern Church and modern coreligionists are the blind led by the blind.
The do not listen to men like Paul in Romans 11:9
"And David saith, Let their table be made a snare, and a trap, and a stumblingblock, and a recompence unto them:"
Nor the warning in 2 Peter 2:3
"And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not."
Nor Proverbs 23
"When thou sittest to eat with a ruler, consider diligently what is before thee: And put a knife to thy throat, if thou be a man given to appetite. Be not desirous of his dainties: for they are deceitful meat."
They do not even keep the Ten Commandments of Exodus 20:17 "Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that [is] thy neighbour’s."
Nor seem to want eternal life or know and keep any law "What shall we say then? [Is] the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet." Romans 7:7
Peculiar times
Two year of mask wearing shutdown that has devasted the world economies has stirred the people from their slumber. They see millions lining up for an untested experimental therapy based on censored media propaganda and they are finally asking some questions.
While not always the right ones the critical question is are the willing to hear the answer?
An element of force and coercion has become common around the world and accepted by millions to provide a social safety net through legal charity.
There is no logical, ethical or scientific element to the use of this force. The question is how come they have been and continue to get away with it?
We know that the prophecy is their eyes will be darkened.[6]
Remember Apostasy is often both "religious or political" at the same time.
There has been the instrmentum of rulers that is made possible by the unmooring of the truth from the metaphor and leaving only supertion in it's wake.
We have been in religious and political Apostasy for generations. Since before FDR Americans and the world have been degenerating as free societies because they do not love nor respect their neighbor's rights as much as the love the wages of unrighteousness.
We live particularly vulnerable times and preparedness in an independent voluntary network is key to success of a viable society.
Some societies are served by Federal Emergency Management Agencies and some societies are served by Faith Emergency Ministry Auxiliaries.
Which one are you creating?
Who are you going to call upon if you are affected by the next quake?
Local people may have their hands full.
Two FEMAs
Become a part of the Local networks, form congregations of record, establish your FEMA, your own Faith Emergency Ministry Auxiliaries like the early Church. All you have to do is to love your neighbor as yourself.
Part 5 http://www.hisholychurch.org/kkvv/3rdbatch/121124preachit1_1-2_4.mp3
Apostasy in the Churches and stinky love. String Theory and Christian idiots mentioned. Living temples and separating the Church and eventually you from the ways of the world.
Asking questions about what is wrong and the answers. Read Pure Religionor Watch and Democracy or Watch mentioned. Listen to wholw series at Audio2012#Preach_it_Brother
http://www.preparingyou.com/wiki/Audio2012#Preach_it_Brother
The following is from "There Be gods Many"
- Rome recognized Jesus as King and Jesus as king redeemed the people from their Roman involvement, if they would learn his ways. Jews and others who prescribed to the perfect law of liberty established by the government of servants appointed by Jesus became known in history as Christians while those who denounced Jesus as King and continued in apostasy were conquered and destroyed at the fall of Jerusalem. An exodus took place at the destruction of Jerusalem and during much of the persecution of the followers of Christ. These people who we call Christians were mostly Jews and Israelites as well as others who formed the political Kingdom of Jesus and therefore God on earth. His Kingdom was unique in history because it is not like the Kingdoms of the Gentiles or Nations. It is often over-looked because few know what the Kingdom of Heaven looks like. And there are factions that would not want you to truly understand God's Kingdom on earth and therefore they choose to keep it a “Mystery”.
- In Gibbon's Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire, he praised "the union and discipline of the Christian republic." He also pointed out that "it gradually formed an independent and increasing state in the heart of the Roman Empire."
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- ↑ Religion “Real piety in practice[1], consisting in the performance of all known duties to God and our fellow men” John Bouvier's 1856 Law Dictionary
- ↑ Proverbs 12:24 The hand of the diligent shall bear rule: but the slothful shall be under tribute.
- ↑ "A Narrative of the Visit to the American Churches: By the Deputation from the Congregation Union of England and Wales (Vol. II). by Andrew Reed and James Matheson, Harper & Brothers, 1835.
- ↑ This is what socialism does and only pure Religion holds the solution. -Alexis De Tocqueville, Memoir on Pauperism
- ↑ Edward Gibbon, Chapter 3, Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire.
- ↑ 6.0 6.1 6.2 Psalm 69:22 Let their table become a snare before them: and that which should have been for their welfare, let it become a trap. 23 Let their eyes be darkened, that they see not; and make their loins continually to shake.
- Romans 11:9 And David saith, Let their table be made a snare, and a trap, and a stumbling block, and a recompence unto them: 10 Let their eyes be darkened, that they may not see, and bow down their back alway.
- ↑ Jeremiah 18:15 Because my people hath forgotten me, they have burned incense to vanity, and they have caused them to stumble in their ways from the ancient paths, to walk in paths, in a way not cast up;
- ↑ Proverbs 23:1 When thou sittest to eat with a ruler, consider diligently what is before thee: 2 And put a knife to thy throat, if thou be a man given to appetite. 3 Be not desirous of his dainties: for they are deceitful meat.
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