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[[3 John 1]]:9 I wrote unto the church: but '''Diotrephes''', who loveth to have the preeminence among them, receiveth us not.
[[File:jupiterbaalbek.jpg|right|thumb|px250| The [[temple of Jupiter]] at Baalbek was finished in the reign of Antoninus Pius (AD 138–161) but construction probably started soon after c. 16 BC, when Baalbek became a Roman colony. John writes in [[3 John 1]]:9 "..'''[[Diotrephes]]''', who loveth to have the preeminence among them, receiveth us not." [[Diotrephes]] is a word that means "nourished by Jupiter" or "nourished of Jove".]]
::* ''Diotrephes is believed by most to be a man. But was it a man or a type of man? Diotrephes is a word that means "nourished by Jupiter" or "nourished of Jove". That is a very unusual name and Raymond E. Brown comments, "Diotrephes is not a particularly common name." Was it a name or a proper noun invented by John to describe a certain type of people like the [[Nicolaitan]]? The doeth good is of God quote "clearly implies that Diotrephes held to a Nicolaitan regeneration, allowing of a doing ''evil'' and yet being of God." Commentary on the New Testament, Volume 5, Daniel Denison Whedon, Hunt & Eaton, 1908. ''
 
::* ''People who thought it was okay to take benefits from the [[Temples|Temple of Jupiter]] would have been rejected by John for these [[Covetous Practices]]. It would make their [[Pure Religion]] "spotted"<Ref>[[James 1]]:27 [[Pure Religion|Pure religion]] and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, [and] to keep himself unspotted from the world.</Ref> because those [[Temples]] were of the [[World]] and by then forced the contributions of the people through [[Public religion]]. ''
[[3 John 1]]:9 I wrote unto the church: but '''[[Diotrephes]]''', who loveth to have the preeminence among them, receiveth us not.
::* ''Knowing that at the [[Temples|Temple of Jupiter]] the Tribunes not only conducted their legislative assemblies but it housed important records, books and the social welfare funds including the treasury of the city within the chambers and vaults of that [[temples|temple]] could enhance our understanding of the [[Christian conflict]].''
 
::* ''For over a thousand years there has been churches that like Diotrephes and the Nicolaitans have been trying to convince the people that it is okay to use the governments of the world to provide gifts, gratuities and benefits. It is not! This is why [[Lady Godiva]] is on the cover of the [[FCR|Free Church Report]]. It is why [[John the Baptist]] told us not to use force but share and Jesus talked about not being like the [[Benefactors]] of other governments, Paul and the apostles emphasize love and charity and [[Keep the Commandments|keeping the commandments]].''
 
::* ''Diotrephes is believed by most to be a man. But was it a man or a type of man?  
 
Diotrephes is a word that means "nourished by Jupiter" or "nourished of Jove". That is a very unusual name, and Raymond E. Brown comments, "Diotrephes is not a particularly common name."  
 
Was it a name or a proper noun invented by John to describe a certain type of people, like the [[Nicolaitan]]?  
 
[[3 John 1]]:10  "Wherefore, if I come, I will remember his deeds which he doeth, prating against us with malicious words: and not content therewith, neither doth he himself receive the brethren, and forbiddeth them that would, and casteth [them] out of the church. 11  Beloved, follow not that which is evil, but that which is good. He that doeth good is of God: but he that doeth evil hath not seen God."
 
 
The ''doeth good'' is of God quote "clearly implies that Diotrephes held to a Nicolaitan regeneration, allowing of a doing ''evil'' and yet being of God." Commentary on the New Testament, Volume 5, Daniel Denison Whedon, Hunt & Eaton, 1908.  
 
Unfortunately, many do not understand the [[Nicolaitan]]s which was the error of [[Baalim]]. It is also clear that anyone "that doeth evil hath not seen God" is also not [[Born again]].
 
 
::* ''People who thought it was okay to take [[benefits]] from the [[Temple of Jupiter]] would have been rejected by John for these [[Covetous Practices]]. It would make their [[Pure Religion]] "spotted"<Ref>[[James 1]]:27 [[Pure Religion|Pure religion]] and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, [and] to keep himself unspotted from the world.</Ref> because those [[Temples]] were of the [[World]] and by then forced the contributions of the people through [[Public religion]]. ''
 
::* ''Knowing that at the [[Temple of Jupiter]] the Tribunes not only conducted their legislative assemblies but it housed important records, books and the social welfare funds including the treasury of the city within the chambers and vaults of that [[temples|temple]] could enhance our understanding of the [[Christian conflict]].''
 
::* ''For over a thousand years there has been churches that like Diotrephes and the [[Nicolaitan]]s have been trying to convince the people that it is okay to use the governments of the world to provide gifts, gratuities and benefits. It is not! This is why [[Lady Godiva]] is on the cover of the [[FCR|Free Church Report]]. It is why [[John the Baptist]] told us not to use force but share and Jesus talked about not being like the [[Benefactors]] of other governments, Paul and the apostles emphasize love and charity and [[Keep the Commandments|keeping the commandments]].''
 
 
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The temple of Jupiter at Baalbek was finished in the reign of Antoninus Pius (AD 138–161) but construction probably started soon after c. 16 BC, when Baalbek became a Roman colony. John writes in 3 John 1:9 "..Diotrephes, who loveth to have the preeminence among them, receiveth us not." Diotrephes is a word that means "nourished by Jupiter" or "nourished of Jove".

3 John 1:9 I wrote unto the church: but Diotrephes, who loveth to have the preeminence among them, receiveth us not.


  • Diotrephes is believed by most to be a man. But was it a man or a type of man?

Diotrephes is a word that means "nourished by Jupiter" or "nourished of Jove". That is a very unusual name, and Raymond E. Brown comments, "Diotrephes is not a particularly common name."

Was it a name or a proper noun invented by John to describe a certain type of people, like the Nicolaitan?

3 John 1:10 "Wherefore, if I come, I will remember his deeds which he doeth, prating against us with malicious words: and not content therewith, neither doth he himself receive the brethren, and forbiddeth them that would, and casteth [them] out of the church. 11 Beloved, follow not that which is evil, but that which is good. He that doeth good is of God: but he that doeth evil hath not seen God."


The doeth good is of God quote "clearly implies that Diotrephes held to a Nicolaitan regeneration, allowing of a doing evil and yet being of God." Commentary on the New Testament, Volume 5, Daniel Denison Whedon, Hunt & Eaton, 1908.

Unfortunately, many do not understand the Nicolaitans which was the error of Baalim. It is also clear that anyone "that doeth evil hath not seen God" is also not Born again.


  • Knowing that at the Temple of Jupiter the Tribunes not only conducted their legislative assemblies but it housed important records, books and the social welfare funds including the treasury of the city within the chambers and vaults of that temple could enhance our understanding of the Christian conflict.
  • For over a thousand years there has been churches that like Diotrephes and the Nicolaitans have been trying to convince the people that it is okay to use the governments of the world to provide gifts, gratuities and benefits. It is not! This is why Lady Godiva is on the cover of the Free Church Report. It is why John the Baptist told us not to use force but share and Jesus talked about not being like the Benefactors of other governments, Paul and the apostles emphasize love and charity and keeping the commandments.


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  1. James 1:27 Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, [and] to keep himself unspotted from the world.


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