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[[Mark 16]]:16<Ref> [[Mark 16]]:16"'''He that [[believeth]] and is [[baptized]] shall be saved;''' but he that believeth not shall be damned." </Ref> tells us that we need to be a [[Believer|believer]] and also be [[baptized]]. But that [[baptism]] is apparently not just the water baptism of [[John the Baptist]], [[Apostle|apostles]] or the [[early Church]]. | [[Mark 16]]:16<Ref> [[Mark 16]]:16"'''He that [[believeth]] and is [[baptized]] shall be saved;''' but he that believeth not shall be damned." </Ref> tells us that we need to be a [[Believer|believer]] and also be [[baptized]]. But that [[baptism]] is apparently not just the water baptism of [[John the Baptist]], [[Apostle|apostles]] or the [[early Church]]. | ||
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We know also from what that verse does not say that it is not those who are not baptized ''that shall be damned'' but those who "believeth not shall be damned". | We know also from what that verse does not say that it is not those who are not baptized ''that shall be damned'' but those who "believeth not shall be damned". | ||
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Christians [[repent|repented]] of those [[covetous practices]] which had always been a [[snare]] from [[Nimrod]] if not [[Cain]]. The distinctions between those two systems would contribute to the [[Christian conflict]] with [[Rome]]. | Christians [[repent|repented]] of those [[covetous practices]] which had always been a [[snare]] from [[Nimrod]] if not [[Cain]]. The distinctions between those two systems would contribute to the [[Christian conflict]] with [[Rome]]. | ||
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Latest revision as of 16:07, 17 November 2024
Baptized
Mark 16:16[1] tells us that we need to be a believer and also be baptized. But that baptism is apparently not just the water baptism of John the Baptist, apostles or the early Church.
Believeth not
We know also from what that verse does not say that it is not those who are not baptized that shall be damned but those who "believeth not shall be damned".
This observation makes it clear that belief is essential and that belief will compell particular though and actions. If one sees action contrary to the Doctrine of Jesus that would be evidence to all that the witness of water baptism was false.
John even tells us that he only baptized with water[2] taking the emphases off the water and upon the words "unto[3] repentance".[4] This statement emphasize that it is repentance that is the goal, intent, and purpose of the outward ceremony.
Without true and sincere repentance the water baptism is meaningless. In truth is that any emphases upon the ritual and ceremony of being baptized for any other reason than making a record of intent, professing or giving your witness, is by default a form of emotional idolatry.
The other baptized
The rabbinical baptism of the Pharisees included registration with civil institution of Corban through the temple of Herod.
The Christian system of pure Religion was dependent upon charity while the leaven of Herod and the Pharisees was dependant on compelled or forced offerings which provided a civil table of free bread.
Their system or tables of welfare were dependent upon the covetous practices of desiring benefits at your neighbors expense through men in government calling themselves benefactors but who exercise authority one over the other. [5]
Christians repented of those covetous practices which had always been a snare from Nimrod if not Cain. The distinctions between those two systems would contribute to the Christian conflict with Rome.
- ↑ Mark 16:16"He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned."
- ↑ Water ritual unto repentance vs Spirit and fire of salvation
- Matthew 3:11 "I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and [with] fire:"
- Mark 16:16"He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned."
- Luke 3:16 "John answered, saying unto [them] all, I indeed baptize you with water; but one mightier than I cometh, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to unloose: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost and with fire:"
- John 1:26 "John answered them, saying, I baptize with water: but there standeth one among you, whom ye know not; 27 He it is, who coming after me is preferred before me, whose shoe’s latchet I am not worthy to unloose. 28 These things were done in Bethabara beyond Jordan, where John was baptizing. 29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world... 33 And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost."
- John 4:1 "When therefore the Lord knew how the Pharisees had heard that Jesus made and baptized more disciples than John, 2 (Though Jesus himself baptized not, but his disciples,)"
- See also Baptism, Acts 10, Born again, Gentiles.
- ↑ 1519 ~εἰς~ eis \@ice\@ a primary preposition; prep AV-into 573, to 281, unto 207, for 140, in 138, on 58, toward 29, against 26, misc 322; 1774
- 1) into, unto, to, towards, for, among
- "For" (as used in #Acts 2:38 "for the forgiveness … ") could have two meanings. If you saw a poster saying "Jesse James wanted for robbery," "for" could mean Jesse is wanted so he can commit a robbery, or is wanted because he has committed a robbery. The later sense is the correct one. So too in this passage of 1 Peter 2 concerning peculiar people, the word "for" signifies an action in the past. Otherwise, it would violate the entire tenor of the NT teaching on salvation by grace and not by works.
- As a primary preposition eis indicates the point reached or entered figuratively with the intent and purpose of obtaing a result, etc. As with verbs it expresses motion both literally or figuratively.
- ↑ “11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:” Matthew 3:11
- ↑ Not exercise authority
- Matthew 20:25 "But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Ye know that the princes of the Gentiles exercise dominion over them, and they that are great exercise authority upon them. But it shall not be so among you:..."
- Mark 10:42 "But Jesus called them to him, and saith unto them, Ye know that they which are accounted to rule over the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and their great ones exercise authority upon them. But so shall it not be among you:..."
- Luke 22:25 "And he said unto them, The kings of the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and they that exercise authority upon them are called benefactors. But ye [shall] not [be] so:..."