No Devils and Demons

No Demons

Some people try to say that there are no devils and demons and that what some people call possession is only mental illness.

They even try to say that all Jesus was doing was healing the sick and not casting out demons too.

Where do this alteration of the text stop?

Next they will say that he did not heal at all. Or even that he did not exist.

The story of the demoniac and Legion could have been told as a parable but was reported as fact. We see the story in Matthew 8, [(Mark 5]], and Luke 8.

Ultimately the Holy Spirit, who is the author of revelation and divine inspiration, is our comforter.

The Bible as with all scripture is profitable "for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness".^[1] The light of that revelation.

These stories are not meant to be an esoteric^[2] exegesis^[3]

Satan

We may not know if any "guy" has the literal name of Satan because as a word means adversary in Hebrew^[4] and in the Greek Satanas^[5]. We should not believe in "demons" and "devils" and that "Satan" exists in the way many speak of it today. You should not believe in kangaroos either, but they do exist.

The fact is, there may be scientific support for spiritual elements related to diseases. There certainly is serious science in the area of Quantum and string theory calculations by men and women, who are often atheists, that alternate realms exist parallel to the physical world we see around us. It has been suggested by scientists that these realms may contain entities or things that may even be called demons or devils which may reside there. Some of them may even connect with people living in this realm and influence them. Their health, their choices and their mental and emotional perceptions may be influenced by those connections we may make or allow.

So what does the Bible say?

Galatians 3:8-11 "And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, [saying], In thee shall all nations be blessed. So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham. For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them. But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith."

No demon theories

Sheldon Emry argued with the notion that some guy named Satan had sex with Eve... He did not believe that, and we do not suggest that it is true, but it is an idea floating around from time to time among some groups and Shelden was Christian identity which suggests that Anglo-Saxons are the true Israelites. When theorizing realities, almost anything is possible.

There may be no real kingdom message coming from men like Sheldon and others who talk about these things. They often seem oblivious to kingdom principle and preached for the most part from the tree of knowledge for profit.

There was no real promotion of the kingdom or daily ministration in a way we see the early Church doing.

The same with Pete Peters.

I knew pastor Bob Hallstrom and his "Satan Among us" book... He did try to stay away from Benefits from Benefactors of the World who exercise authority one over the other and of course the Fathers of the earth. But even he seemed to miss the simple idea of a Daily ministration for Christians in time of need. Without that daily ministration, are there any deeds to give life to real faith in the way rather than just faith in opinions?

Often bigotry, pride, and fear can be seen influencing their private interpretations of a book that says it is not given to private interpretation.^[6] But lacking knowledge of the Kingdom of God and what it means to actively Love your neighbor as yourself or what the simple message of Pure Religion was or the historical references to the bad Corban of the Pharisees and the good sacrifice called for by Christ by the Freewill offerings we call Charity suggests they are already under a strong delusion.

The one characteristic of Satan is that he preaches that the covetous practices of the world are okay and signing up for "legal charity" offered by the world at the expense of your neighbor and their children is good and not evil like the early Church believed.

Many lack understanding

Many believe we are physical, mental and spiritual beings. These are aspects of man as a being. You cannot measure or see the mental or spiritual elements of our being. We can measure the fruits of those aspects.

Just as physicists cannot measure these other Quantum realms, they can see evidence that they exist.

The word we see as "devils" in the Bible may mean men or women who are in love with the spirit of false accusations, or vain claims and of course deception. They are that way because they choose their own pride in their personal intellect over "truth". And they certainly may be called devils and adversaries.

But there are also what we might call "spiritual" devils and they may exist in these other parallel realms.

Just as modern physicists are calculating the Quantum existence of these realms we cannot touch physically or sense with the physical aspect of our being, ancient and even modern people with spiritual perception may be cognizant of these realms and their influence.

These "spiritual" realms may be in existence but not on our physical plane; in this physical realm we sense around us. Many people claim to see or commune with the other side. Of course, the nature of this claim opens the door for abuse and fraud and consummate liars.

But their fraud does not make the alternate realm non-existent. If there are realms we cannot see, and they can commune in some manner with our spiritual existence, they could influence us by subtle temptations in the spirit that are interpreted by the mind and manifest in the physical body.

But if there are two other realms, one connected to light creation and life and truth and one connected to things less light which is darker shades, a user of creation and other creatures, and the antitheses of life which is death, and of course less than truth which would be a lie, how do we encourage the influence of one realm over the other?

Assuming birds of a feather flock together it could be concluded that they can obtain greater influence over us if we conform to their nature. God's nature is righteous and gives life and that which benefits life and creation, it sets men free to choose, but also manifests all in the light of truth. But the other realm and its inhabitants would be less than God's nature. It would be missing some of His fundamental characteristics of "virtue".

Instead of giving life and things that benefit life, it would need to take things and even life. It would also remove choices and liberty. And would not tell the whole truth, which is the essence of a lie.

Just as your actions can be controlled by your choice to develop allegiance to others, that allegiance or faith may bind you. They will draw you near the ways of God if you give of what you have and share and promote life. Or it may draw you near to the ways of lessor gods of the world if you covet and scheme to take from others for any reason.

We may not only be drawn to the nature of these realms by our choices, but we may bind ourselves by our actions on earth, as it does in spiritual realms.

Going one way or another according to one nature or another draws us and binds us or looses us and sets us free. This binding in many forms is the Keys to the Kingdom.

"And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven." Matthew 16:19

The devil made me do it

"To err is human. To blame someone else is politics." Hubert H. Humphrey

Did Jesus ever blame Satan or accuse the devil for making people do what they did?

Satan may be responsible for tempting people and may even be the enemy of God. He may be a liar or even the father of lies. But he is only responsible for what he does.

Eve tried to blame the Serpent^[7] and Adam tried to blame Eve and God.^[8]

Adam and Eve received the judgment or curse they received not merely because they disobeyed God, but because they did not admit that they were at fault. They tried to blame others for their desire or willingness to go against God's will.

It is neither blame nor denial that removes the burden and consequences of error, but acceptance, repentance and forgiveness.

If you will not accept, how can you repent?

We are told Resist the devil.^[9] But we are also told to resist not evil which is actually about the The Blessed Strategy of the Lord.

Evil is the lack of Good

Evil hates the light it lacks and flees the light of God just as Adam and Eve fled the garden.

Matthew 12:28 "But if I cast out devils by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God is come unto you."

It is not about being possessed of or by devils. It is about having a devilish and proud nature. When you are compatible with Christ His Holy Spirit may guide you, but when you are compatible with evil spirits in man or other entities that hate some of the virtue of God, His light, His Truth, those men or entities may influence you and even take your labor and service and energy for their purposes and benefit.

We can see the symptoms of this in the physical realm around us, but the same principle applies in the spiritual realm. People will not be free unless they are free in Spirit. The two Trees of the garden are still here for us to use as a source. We must stop eating of the Tree of Knowledge and start eating from the Tree of Life.

Evil wants you to eat of the Tree of Knowledge because they can take, and take and take from you when you are like them. This is why Coveting makes you Merchandise. If people stay proud, they can be kept in Bondage. But it is still your choice in Spirit and in Truth, on earth as it is in heaven. The Holy Spirit does not cast out demons from people who love the spirit and ways of demons.

I have known authors that want to think there are no spiritual realms. But they almost all seem to be ignorant of the basics of the gospel, which is a sure sign that they may be wrong about many other things and blind to the things of the Spirit.

What I know, I know because of the Holy Spirit not because I learned it from the tree of knowledge from which many eat, which is why they remain blind and do not heal people in spirit or in truth.

Proverbs 18:14 The spirit of a man will sustain his infirmity; but a wounded spirit who can bear?

Many people are not healed because they entertain a spirit that blocks healing. Fear and anger, which are the result of an unforgiving heart, keep people's bodies from healing naturally.

Their unwillingness to see their own vain efforts and pride keep them from turning around (Repenting) by turning away from the Tree of Knowledge and toward the Tree of Life which is toward the Holy Spirit. Their pride literally keeps them from the Tree of Life which is life.

When they humble themselves before the Lord the evil within them may flee as the Holy Spirit listeth within them and healing may take place rapidly.

That is not my theory. That is reality from experience and observation.

"The heart of the prudent getteth knowledge; and the ear of the wise seeketh knowledge." Proverbs 18:15

Luke 7:21 And in that same hour he cured many of their infirmities and plagues, and of evil spirits; and unto many that were blind he gave sight.

Luke 8:2 And certain women, which had been healed of evil spirits and infirmities, Mary called Magdalene, out of whom went seven devils,

Romans 8:26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.

I see no understanding of the gospel from smooth-talking preachers who get rich without real service and little or no Daily ministration.

I believe there is more than this visible and tangible realm. There are other realms parallel to this one we feel and touch. Which I have shared concerning Quantum and the Mysteries of the Universe.

There are other entities from those realms that are around and influence things here by pulling on the hearts and minds of people in a limited way. But the vain intellectual is most vulnerable to these evil sources. Drugs and opiates open the door to these influences.

We do not need these spiritual entities to produce or manifest evil. There are plenty of earthly evil entities we call men who are the devilish adversaries of righteousness.

That does not mean that the other realms and entities do not exist. They would like you to think they do not exist because their ally is darkness. The other realms would seem tangible if you were there, and most of the entities in them are just as unaware of this realm as many here are unaware of their realm.

But some entities are interdimensional. They do have power in both realms, but not always jurisdiction. But people can give them jurisdiction ....

Jesus Christ was interdimensional and could go in and out of all realms with power and jurisdiction. I do not believe these things because I read it in a book, but because I have had to deal with these entities etc. in this dimension in real time and in real people.

But we should not fear these evils of any world or realm, for love conquers all. Repentance is important. We should put on the full armor of God and begin that process by seeking "... ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you." Matthew 6:33

Realms and dimensions

Evidently only some "demons" or "devils" can enter this dimension, but when they do their physical form can interact with our own in some ways. They come in many forms, and some look like us. Most of their influence though is more subtle because there are good entities that prevent overt influence.

But the more your heart conforms to their heart, the more power and influence over you they may have. This is why you should seek the kingdom and conform to God's righteousness. This is no different than good and bad men or women who influence people here today. It is simply that the race of man is not the only race, whether you want to call them angels or Nephilim or giants or sons of God. Nor is the realm we see and live in the only realm.

None of this changes Mark 7:15 "There is nothing from without a man, that entering into him can defile him: but the things which come out of him, those are they that defile the man." Nor does it change James 1:14 "But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed."

Just as anyone can fall amongst bad company that will cause you to stumble, all the company is not exclusively mankind.

Why do you think that Paul tells you "from such turn away"?

We can be tempted and enticed or beguiled from the Greek word <deleazo> which is why we are told in Peter using the same word in the Greek:

2 Peter 2:14 "Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling <deleazo> unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children:"

2 Peter 2:18 For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure <deleazo> through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error.

Even though the unstable souls may be beguiled, they are still drawn by their own lust and Wantonness. It is that lust within them that brings sin.

We may also be drawn by the love of God and one another if we will attend to the weightier matters and Pure Religion.

Again, I know there are realms and entities in adjacent dimensions not because I read it in a book. But no one should believe that because I said it.

Christ builds His kingdom upon individual revelation, not by flesh and blood.

You do not need to believe that, but now you should not be too surprised if you see the evil manifested.

Learn the basics of the Gospel of the Kingdom, like love and forgiveness and service. The Holy Spirit may reveal the rest.

Mark 5

When asked about Mark 5^[10] they conjure up lame rationales.

So why did the pigs run into the sea and who was asking to not be tormented?

And why do they have a name to even be inquired by Jesus?

And why does this sickness or mental illness ask not to be sent out of the "region" but into swine.

And so now the swine have a disease, the "metal illness" that was in the man; and now being in the pigs, why do they want to kill themselves?

And they say "was possessed with the devil" from the Greek daimonizomai from daimon which is not a disease and the same term is found in other gospels.

So why did it list in Matthew 4:24 illnesses and insanity and possession separately as if they are different things?^[11]

Here they list "possessed with devils" along with "lunatick" and also "divers diseases" as if they are separate things?

And we see in Matthew 8:16 "When the even was come, they brought unto him many that were possessed with devils: and he cast out the spirits with [his] word, and healed all that were sick:" Those who were "possessed with devils" were not healed, but had "spirits" cast out. He did not say "possessed with devils" but were healed but that spirits were cast out.

They did not use lunatic in Matthew 8:28 "And when he was come to the other side into the country of the Gergesenes, there met him two possessed with devils, coming out of the tombs, exceeding fierce, so that no man might pass by that way."

We see the word in Luke 8:36 "They also which saw [it] told them by what means he that was possessed of the devils was healed."

Ah, it says they were healed, but wait - the word is not one of the normal words for "heal" like therapeuo or iaomai, but it is the word sozo which means not healed, but made whole and is translated saved almost a hundred times.

The word is even used in John 10:21 with people accusing Jesus of being possessed "Others said, These are not the words of him that hath a devil. Can a devil open the eyes of the blind?"

Which brings us to Matthew 12:28 But if I cast out devils by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God is come unto you.

Why is Jesus not setting them straight that there is no devils, but only mental illness?

That is because there are demons and evil spirits.

To understand more about Demons and regions like Heaven and Hell, go and listen to Quantum and the Strings, Membranes and Veils.

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Footnotes

↑ “‭13 But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived. ‭14 But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them; ‭15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. ‭16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: ‭17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.” 2 Timothy 3:13-17
↑ Some people claim that the Bible contains esoteric keys that "unlock" hidden knowledge and allow a person to understand what the Bible "really" means, but that is the domain of the Holy Spirit.
↑ Exegesis is a part of the process of hermeneutics, the science of interpretation. A person who practices exegesis is called an exegete.
↑ 07854 ^ןטשׂ^ satan \@saw-tawn’\@ from 07853, Greek 4566 ~σαταν~ and Satanas 4567 ; n m; {See TWOT on 2252 @@ "2252a"} AV-Satan 19, adversary 7, withstand 1; 27
1) adversary, one who withstands
1a) adversary (in general-personal or national)

2) superhuman adversary
2a) Satan (as noun pr)
↑ 4567 ~Σατανᾶς~ Satanas \@sat-an-as’\@ of Aramaic origin corresponding to 4566 (with the definite affix); TDNT-7:151,1007; {See TDNT 703} n pr m AV-Satan 36; 36
1) adversary (one who opposes another in purpose or act), the name given to
1a) the prince of evil spirits, the inveterate adversary of God and Christ
1a1) he incites apostasy from God and to sin

1a2) circumventing men by his wiles

1a3) the worshippers of idols are said to be under his control

1a4) by his demons he is able to take possession of men and inflict them with diseases

1a5) by God’s assistance he is overcome

1a6) on Christ’s return from heaven he will be bound with chains for a thousand years, but when the thousand years are finished he will walk the earth in yet greater power, but shortly after will be given over to eternal punishment

1b) a Satan-like man
↑ 2 Peter 1:20 "Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation."
↑ Genesis 3:13 And the LORD God said unto the woman, What [is] this [that] thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.
↑ Genesis 3:12 And the man said, The woman whom thou gavest [to be] with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat.
↑ James 4:7 Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.
↑ Mark 5:1 ¶ And they came over unto the other side of the sea, into the country of the Gadarenes. 2 And when he was come out of the ship, immediately there met him out of the tombs a man with an unclean spirit, 3 Who had his dwelling among the tombs; and no man could bind him, no, not with chains: 4 Because that he had been often bound with fetters and chains, and the chains had been plucked asunder by him, and the fetters broken in pieces: neither could any man tame him. 5 And always, night and day, he was in the mountains, and in the tombs, crying, and cutting himself with stones. 6 But when he saw Jesus afar off, he ran and worshipped him, 7 And cried with a loud voice, and said, What have I to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of the most high God? I adjure thee by God, that thou torment me not. 8 For he said unto him, Come out of the man, thou unclean spirit. 9 And he asked him, What is thy name? And he answered, saying, My name is Legion: for we are many. 10 And he besought him much that he would not send them away out of the country. 11 Now there was there nigh unto the mountains a great herd of swine feeding. 12 And all the devils besought him, saying, Send us into the swine, that we may enter into them. 13 And forthwith Jesus gave them leave. And the unclean spirits went out, and entered into the swine: and the herd ran violently down a steep place into the sea, (they were about two thousand;) and were choked in the sea. 14 And they that fed the swine fled, and told it in the city, and in the country. And they went out to see what it was that was done. 15 And they come to Jesus, and see him that was possessed with the devil, and had the legion, sitting, and clothed, and in his right mind: and they were afraid. 16 And they that saw it told them how it befell to him that was possessed with the devil, and also concerning the swine. 17 And they began to pray him to depart out of their coasts. 18 And when he was come into the ship, he that had been possessed with the devil prayed him that he might be with him. 19 Howbeit Jesus suffered him not, but saith unto him, Go home to thy friends, and tell them how great things the Lord hath done for thee, and hath had compassion on thee. 20 And he departed, and began to publish in Decapolis how great things Jesus had done for him: and all men did marvel.
↑ Matthew 4:24 "And his fame went throughout all Syria: and they brought unto him all sick people that were taken with divers diseases and torments, and those which were possessed with devils, and those which were lunatick, and those that had the palsy; and he healed them."

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[1] “‭13 But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived. ‭14 But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them; ‭15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. ‭16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: ‭17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.” 2 Timothy 3:13-17

[2] Some people claim that the Bible contains esoteric keys that "unlock" hidden knowledge and allow a person to understand what the Bible "really" means, but that is the domain of the Holy Spirit.

[3] Exegesis is a part of the process of hermeneutics, the science of interpretation. A person who practices exegesis is called an exegete.

[4] 07854 ^ןטשׂ^ satan \@saw-tawn’\@ from 07853, Greek 4566 ~σαταν~ and Satanas 4567 ; n m; {See TWOT on 2252 @@ "2252a"} AV-Satan 19, adversary 7, withstand 1; 27
1) adversary, one who withstands
1a) adversary (in general-personal or national)

2) superhuman adversary
2a) Satan (as noun pr)

[5] 4567 ~Σατανᾶς~ Satanas \@sat-an-as’\@ of Aramaic origin corresponding to 4566 (with the definite affix); TDNT-7:151,1007; {See TDNT 703} n pr m AV-Satan 36; 36
1) adversary (one who opposes another in purpose or act), the name given to
1a) the prince of evil spirits, the inveterate adversary of God and Christ
1a1) he incites apostasy from God and to sin

1a2) circumventing men by his wiles

1a3) the worshippers of idols are said to be under his control

1a4) by his demons he is able to take possession of men and inflict them with diseases

1a5) by God’s assistance he is overcome

1a6) on Christ’s return from heaven he will be bound with chains for a thousand years, but when the thousand years are finished he will walk the earth in yet greater power, but shortly after will be given over to eternal punishment

1b) a Satan-like man

[6] 2 Peter 1:20 "Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation."

[7] Genesis 3:13 And the LORD God said unto the woman, What [is] this [that] thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.

[8] Genesis 3:12 And the man said, The woman whom thou gavest [to be] with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat.

[9] James 4:7 Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.

[10] Mark 5:1 ¶ And they came over unto the other side of the sea, into the country of the Gadarenes. 2 And when he was come out of the ship, immediately there met him out of the tombs a man with an unclean spirit, 3 Who had his dwelling among the tombs; and no man could bind him, no, not with chains: 4 Because that he had been often bound with fetters and chains, and the chains had been plucked asunder by him, and the fetters broken in pieces: neither could any man tame him. 5 And always, night and day, he was in the mountains, and in the tombs, crying, and cutting himself with stones. 6 But when he saw Jesus afar off, he ran and worshipped him, 7 And cried with a loud voice, and said, What have I to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of the most high God? I adjure thee by God, that thou torment me not. 8 For he said unto him, Come out of the man, thou unclean spirit. 9 And he asked him, What is thy name? And he answered, saying, My name is Legion: for we are many. 10 And he besought him much that he would not send them away out of the country. 11 Now there was there nigh unto the mountains a great herd of swine feeding. 12 And all the devils besought him, saying, Send us into the swine, that we may enter into them. 13 And forthwith Jesus gave them leave. And the unclean spirits went out, and entered into the swine: and the herd ran violently down a steep place into the sea, (they were about two thousand;) and were choked in the sea. 14 And they that fed the swine fled, and told it in the city, and in the country. And they went out to see what it was that was done. 15 And they come to Jesus, and see him that was possessed with the devil, and had the legion, sitting, and clothed, and in his right mind: and they were afraid. 16 And they that saw it told them how it befell to him that was possessed with the devil, and also concerning the swine. 17 And they began to pray him to depart out of their coasts. 18 And when he was come into the ship, he that had been possessed with the devil prayed him that he might be with him. 19 Howbeit Jesus suffered him not, but saith unto him, Go home to thy friends, and tell them how great things the Lord hath done for thee, and hath had compassion on thee. 20 And he departed, and began to publish in Decapolis how great things Jesus had done for him: and all men did marvel.

[11] Matthew 4:24 "And his fame went throughout all Syria: and they brought unto him all sick people that were taken with divers diseases and torments, and those which were possessed with devils, and those which were lunatick, and those that had the palsy; and he healed them."

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No Devils and Demons

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No Demons

Satan

No demon theories

Many lack understanding

The devil made me do it

Evil is the lack of Good

Realms and dimensions

Mark 5

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