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Flesh pots and caldrons are equated with social compacts | ''Flesh pots and caldrons''<Ref>Exodus 16:3 And the children of Israel said unto them, Would to God we had died by the hand of the LORD in the land of Egypt, when we sat by the flesh <01320> pots <05518>, and when we did eat bread to the full; for ye have brought us forth into this wilderness, to kill this whole assembly with hunger. | ||
: Ezekiel 11:3 Which say, It is not near; let us build houses: this city is the caldron <05518>, and we be the flesh <01320>. | |||
: Ezekiel 11:7 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Your slain whom ye have laid in the midst of it, they are the flesh <01320>, and this city is the caldron <05518>: but I will bring you forth out of the midst of it. | |||
: Ezekiel 11:11 This city shall not be your caldron <05518>, neither shall ye be the flesh <01320> in the midst thereof; but I will judge you in the border of Israel: | |||
: Micah 3:3 Who also eat the flesh of my people, and flay their skin from off them; and they break their bones, and chop them in pieces, as for the pot <05518>, and as flesh <01320> within the caldron.</Ref> are equated with [[social compacts]] or [[Civil Government|civil systems of government]] or ''"cities"'' in the [[Bible]]. | |||
[[File:cauldron.jpg|right|400px|thumb|one purse|[[One purse#Civic Flesh pots]] This city is the caldron, and we be the flesh]] | [[File:cauldron.jpg|right|400px|thumb|one purse|[[One purse#Civic Flesh pots]] This city is the caldron, and we be the flesh]] | ||
Exodus 16:3 | This metaphor of ''flesh pots''<Ref>Twenty-fourth hour in series. The mark of Cain. Civil authority; Ruled by consent. The anatomy of the kingdom; the way of the kingdom. Resist not evil. Responsible giving. A cauldron of flesh. “City” and “terror” are the same word in Hebrew. Casting gold and silver in the streets; U.S. citizens cannot own gold, they can only have legal title. Givers and takers. Codifying the law. | ||
http://www.hisholychurch.net/kkvv/x7%20folder/140506sacredpurpose24anatomy.mp3 | |||
http://www.preparingyou.com/wiki/Audio2014#Sacred_Purpose_in_Faith</Ref> is first seen in [[Exodus 16]]:3 where the people had been [[snare]]d by the [[welfare]] of Egypt into a system of [[Corvee]] or [[bondage]] but were able to sit and fill themselves. Once free in the wilderness life was not so certain. | |||
But a voluntary system of [[welfare]] where you have no guarantee of [[benefits]] forced through the redistribution of wealth by men who call themselves [[Benefactors]] but exercise authority produces a different result. By its nature a system of [[Free Assemblies]] seems to ''strengthen the poor''.<Ref>Ezekiel 16:49 Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy. | |||
: Leviticus 25:35 And if thy brother be waxen poor, and fallen in decay with thee; then thou shalt relieve him: yea, though he be a stranger, or a sojourner; that he may live with thee. 36 Take thou no usury of him, or increase: but fear thy God; that thy brother may live with thee. 37 Thou shalt not give him thy money upon usury, nor lend him thy victuals for increase. 38 I am the LORD your God, which brought you forth out of the land of Egypt, to give you the land of Canaan, and to be your God.</Ref> | |||
2 Who hate the good, and love the evil; who pluck off their skin from off them, and their flesh from off their bones; | In [[Micah 3]]:3 the [[Bible]] talks about 3 Who also eat the flesh of my people, and flay their skin from off them; and they break their bones, and chop them in pieces, as for the pot, and as flesh within the caldron.<Ref>: Micah 3:1 And I said, Hear, I pray you, O heads of Jacob, and ye princes of the house of Israel; [Is it] not for you to know judgment? | ||
: 2 Who hate the good, and love the evil; who pluck off their skin from off them, and their flesh from off their bones; | |||
: 3 Who also eat the flesh of my people, and flay their skin from off them; and they break their bones, and chop them in pieces, as for the pot, and as flesh within the caldron. | |||
: 4 Then shall they cry unto the LORD, but he will not hear them: he will even hide his face from them at that time, as they have behaved themselves ill in their doings. | |||
: 5 Thus saith the LORD concerning the prophets that make my people err, that bite with their teeth, and cry, Peace; and he that putteth not into their mouths, they even prepare war against him. | |||
: 6 Therefore night shall be unto you, that ye shall not have a vision; and it shall be dark unto you, that ye shall not divine; and the sun shall go down over the prophets, and the day shall be dark over them. {that … : vision: Heb. from a vision } {that … : divine: Heb. from divining } | |||
: 7 Then shall the seers be ashamed, and the diviners confounded: yea, they shall all cover their lips; for there is no answer of God. | |||
: 8 But truly I am full of power by the spirit of the LORD, and of judgment, and of might, to declare unto Jacob his transgression, and to Israel his sin.</Ref> because the people "Who hate the good, and love the evil". This is again a metaphor of the [[ Civil Government|civil system]] which allows the people to take a bite out of one another through the [[Exercises authority|exercising authority]] of a systems that takes by force from one class of citizen to feed another. | |||
This is nothing but the conflict between [[Charitable Practices]] and [[Pure Religion]] verses [[Covetous Practices]] and [[Public religion]] which what was wrong with the [[Corban]] of the [[Pharisees]] and at the root of the [[Christian conflict]] with [[Rome]] and its [[Temples]]. | |||
[[His Church|Christ's appointed Church]] took from some to feed others but that giving and taking was a free society because it was based on [[charity]] as [[John the Baptist]] and Jesus taught. This was no different than the [[freewill offerings]] of Moses's [[Republic]] or Abraham's [[Altars]]. | |||
The Church took from one class of citizen and gave to another too: | |||
In about AD 150, Justin Martyr, hoping to clear the misconceptions and prejudices surrounding Christianity, wrote the Emperor of [[Rome]] Antoninus Pius in defense of the Christian faith and allegiance to Christ which was the [[Liturgy]] of the [[His Church]]: | |||
: “And the wealthy among us help the needy ... and willing, give what each thinks fit; and what is collected is deposited with the president, who succours the orphans and widows and those who, through sickness or any other cause, are in want, and those who are in bonds and the strangers sojourning among us, and in a word takes care of all who are in need.” (Ch. 65-67) | |||
Justin would not trade his faith in Christ for the benefits of Rome because he knew that what they offered for his welfare was truly a snare of recompense. | |||
: "And those who have among us help the needy; and we always keep together; and for all things wherewith we are supplied, we bless the Maker of all through His Son Jesus Christ, and through the Holy Ghost." Chapter LXVII.—Weekly worship of the Christians. The Apostolic author Justin Martyr. | |||
== The City is the caldron == | == The City is the caldron == | ||
Revision as of 07:22, 8 May 2016
Knife to thy throat
Proverbs 23:1 When thou sittest to eat with a ruler, consider diligently what [is] before thee:
2 And put a knife to thy throat, if thou be a man given to appetite.
3 Be not desirous of his dainties: for they are deceitful meat.
4 Labour not to be rich: cease from thine own wisdom.
5 Wilt thou set thine eyes upon that which is not? for riches certainly make themselves wings; they fly away as an eagle toward heaven.
6 Eat thou not the bread of him that hath an evil eye, neither desire thou his dainty meats:
7 For as he thinketh in his heart, so is he: Eat and drink, saith he to thee; but his heart is not with thee.
8 The morsel which thou hast eaten shalt thou vomit up, and lose thy sweet words.
9 Speak not in the ears of a fool: for he will despise the wisdom of thy words.
10 Remove not the old landmark; and enter not into the fields of the fatherless:
Civic Flesh pots
Flesh pots and caldrons[1] are equated with social compacts or civil systems of government or "cities" in the Bible.
This metaphor of flesh pots[2] is first seen in Exodus 16:3 where the people had been snared by the welfare of Egypt into a system of Corvee or bondage but were able to sit and fill themselves. Once free in the wilderness life was not so certain.
But a voluntary system of welfare where you have no guarantee of benefits forced through the redistribution of wealth by men who call themselves Benefactors but exercise authority produces a different result. By its nature a system of Free Assemblies seems to strengthen the poor.[3]
In Micah 3:3 the Bible talks about 3 Who also eat the flesh of my people, and flay their skin from off them; and they break their bones, and chop them in pieces, as for the pot, and as flesh within the caldron.[4] because the people "Who hate the good, and love the evil". This is again a metaphor of the civil system which allows the people to take a bite out of one another through the exercising authority of a systems that takes by force from one class of citizen to feed another.
This is nothing but the conflict between Charitable Practices and Pure Religion verses Covetous Practices and Public religion which what was wrong with the Corban of the Pharisees and at the root of the Christian conflict with Rome and its Temples.
Christ's appointed Church took from some to feed others but that giving and taking was a free society because it was based on charity as John the Baptist and Jesus taught. This was no different than the freewill offerings of Moses's Republic or Abraham's Altars.
The Church took from one class of citizen and gave to another too:
In about AD 150, Justin Martyr, hoping to clear the misconceptions and prejudices surrounding Christianity, wrote the Emperor of Rome Antoninus Pius in defense of the Christian faith and allegiance to Christ which was the Liturgy of the His Church:
- “And the wealthy among us help the needy ... and willing, give what each thinks fit; and what is collected is deposited with the president, who succours the orphans and widows and those who, through sickness or any other cause, are in want, and those who are in bonds and the strangers sojourning among us, and in a word takes care of all who are in need.” (Ch. 65-67)
Justin would not trade his faith in Christ for the benefits of Rome because he knew that what they offered for his welfare was truly a snare of recompense.
- "And those who have among us help the needy; and we always keep together; and for all things wherewith we are supplied, we bless the Maker of all through His Son Jesus Christ, and through the Holy Ghost." Chapter LXVII.—Weekly worship of the Christians. The Apostolic author Justin Martyr.
The City is the caldron
Ezekiel 11:1 Moreover the spirit lifted me up, and brought me unto the east gate of the LORD’S house, which looketh eastward: and behold at the door of the gate five and twenty men; among whom I saw Jaazaniah the son of Azur, and Pelatiah the son of Benaiah, princes of the people.
2 Then said he unto me, Son of man, these are the men that devise mischief, and give wicked counsel in this city:
3 Which say, It is not near; let us build houses: this city is the caldron, and we be the flesh. {It is … : or, It is not for us to build houses near }
4 Therefore prophesy against them, prophesy, O son of man.
5 And the Spirit of the LORD fell upon me, and said unto me, Speak; Thus saith the LORD; Thus have ye said, O house of Israel: for I know the things that come into your mind, every one of them.
6 Ye have multiplied your slain in this city, and ye have filled the streets thereof with the slain.
7 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Your slain whom ye have laid in the midst of it, they are the flesh, and this city is the caldron: but I will bring you forth out of the midst of it.
8 Ye have feared the sword; and I will bring a sword upon you, saith the Lord GOD.
9 And I will bring you out of the midst thereof, and deliver you into the hands of strangers, and will execute judgments among you.
10 Ye shall fall by the sword; I will judge you in the border of Israel; and ye shall know that I am the LORD.
11 This city shall not be your caldron, neither shall ye be the flesh in the midst thereof; but I will judge you in the border of Israel:
12 And ye shall know that I am the LORD: for ye have not walked in my statutes, neither executed my judgments, but have done after the manners of the heathen that are round about you. {for ye … : or, which have not walked }
13 And it came to pass, when I prophesied, that Pelatiah the son of Benaiah died. Then fell I down upon my face, and cried with a loud voice, and said, Ah Lord GOD! wilt thou make a full end of the remnant of Israel?
Zechariah 14:20 In that day shall there be upon the bells of the horses, HOLINESS UNTO THE LORD; and the pots <05518> in the LORD’S house shall be like the bowls before the altar. {bells: or, bridles } Zechariah 14:21 Yea, every pot <05518> in Jerusalem and in Judah shall be holiness unto the LORD of hosts: and all they that sacrifice shall come and take of them, and seethe therein: and in that day there shall be no more the Canaanite in the house of the LORD of hosts.
Bite one another
If you read way back in Micah they were talking about those who "hate the good, and love the evil". They even supposedly "pluck off their skin", "their flesh from off their bones" and "eat the flesh of my people". [5] They do this and put them in a caldron.
Is the Bible talking about cannibals?
Shall they Go and cry unto the Lord? It goes on to say that God will not hear them when they do cry out. Why?[6]
They talk about people biting one another[7] and goes on to tell you that you wont be able to see clearly like when Christ warned the Pharisees that he would take sight from them.[8]
Those who should warn you will fail to do so and God will raise new shepherds who will warn those who will hear.[9]
Again in Habakkuk we see reference to this idea of biting one another and you shall be booty which is to say a spoil or surety or even Merchandise.[10] This will come about because you have done the same to many nations[11]
This is in accord with as you judge so shall ye be judged and sow the wind reap the whirlwind[12] precept of the Bible. And this warning of woe is also related to covetousness[13]
And then warns again that if you build a city or government that takes the blood of your neighbor through covetousness that you are workers of iniquity.[14]
Even in the New Testament we see this idea that we are called to liberty which requires love but if we bite one another that we will also be devoured.[15]
- ↑ Exodus 16:3 And the children of Israel said unto them, Would to God we had died by the hand of the LORD in the land of Egypt, when we sat by the flesh <01320> pots <05518>, and when we did eat bread to the full; for ye have brought us forth into this wilderness, to kill this whole assembly with hunger.
- Ezekiel 11:3 Which say, It is not near; let us build houses: this city is the caldron <05518>, and we be the flesh <01320>.
- Ezekiel 11:7 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Your slain whom ye have laid in the midst of it, they are the flesh <01320>, and this city is the caldron <05518>: but I will bring you forth out of the midst of it.
- Ezekiel 11:11 This city shall not be your caldron <05518>, neither shall ye be the flesh <01320> in the midst thereof; but I will judge you in the border of Israel:
- Micah 3:3 Who also eat the flesh of my people, and flay their skin from off them; and they break their bones, and chop them in pieces, as for the pot <05518>, and as flesh <01320> within the caldron.
- ↑ Twenty-fourth hour in series. The mark of Cain. Civil authority; Ruled by consent. The anatomy of the kingdom; the way of the kingdom. Resist not evil. Responsible giving. A cauldron of flesh. “City” and “terror” are the same word in Hebrew. Casting gold and silver in the streets; U.S. citizens cannot own gold, they can only have legal title. Givers and takers. Codifying the law. http://www.hisholychurch.net/kkvv/x7%20folder/140506sacredpurpose24anatomy.mp3 http://www.preparingyou.com/wiki/Audio2014#Sacred_Purpose_in_Faith
- ↑ Ezekiel 16:49 Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy.
- Leviticus 25:35 And if thy brother be waxen poor, and fallen in decay with thee; then thou shalt relieve him: yea, though he be a stranger, or a sojourner; that he may live with thee. 36 Take thou no usury of him, or increase: but fear thy God; that thy brother may live with thee. 37 Thou shalt not give him thy money upon usury, nor lend him thy victuals for increase. 38 I am the LORD your God, which brought you forth out of the land of Egypt, to give you the land of Canaan, and to be your God.
- ↑ : Micah 3:1 And I said, Hear, I pray you, O heads of Jacob, and ye princes of the house of Israel; [Is it] not for you to know judgment?
- 2 Who hate the good, and love the evil; who pluck off their skin from off them, and their flesh from off their bones;
- 3 Who also eat the flesh of my people, and flay their skin from off them; and they break their bones, and chop them in pieces, as for the pot, and as flesh within the caldron.
- 4 Then shall they cry unto the LORD, but he will not hear them: he will even hide his face from them at that time, as they have behaved themselves ill in their doings.
- 5 Thus saith the LORD concerning the prophets that make my people err, that bite with their teeth, and cry, Peace; and he that putteth not into their mouths, they even prepare war against him.
- 6 Therefore night shall be unto you, that ye shall not have a vision; and it shall be dark unto you, that ye shall not divine; and the sun shall go down over the prophets, and the day shall be dark over them. {that … : vision: Heb. from a vision } {that … : divine: Heb. from divining }
- 7 Then shall the seers be ashamed, and the diviners confounded: yea, they shall all cover their lips; for there is no answer of God.
- 8 But truly I am full of power by the spirit of the LORD, and of judgment, and of might, to declare unto Jacob his transgression, and to Israel his sin.
- ↑ Micah 3:1 And I said, Hear, I pray you, O heads of Jacob, and ye princes of the house of Israel; Is it not for you to know judgment? 2 Who hate the good, and love the evil; who pluck off their skin from off them, and their flesh from off their bones; 3 Who also eat the flesh of my people, and flay their skin from off them; and they break their bones, and chop them in pieces, as for the pot, and as flesh within the caldron.
- ↑ Micah 3:4 Then shall they cry unto the LORD, but he will not hear them: he will even hide his face from them at that time, as they have behaved themselves ill in their doings.
- ↑ Micah 3:5 Thus saith the LORD concerning the prophets that make my people err, that bite with their teeth, and cry, Peace; and he that putteth not into their mouths, they even prepare war against him.
- ↑ Micah 3:6 Therefore night shall be unto you, that ye shall not have a vision; and it shall be dark unto you, that ye shall not divine; and the sun shall go down over the prophets, and the day shall be dark over them.
- ↑ Micah 3:7 Then shall the seers be ashamed, and the diviners confounded: yea, they shall all cover their lips; for there is no answer of God. 8 But truly I am full of power by the spirit of the LORD, and of judgment, and of might, to declare unto Jacob his transgression, and to Israel his sin.
- ↑ Habakkuk 2:6 Shall not all these take up a parable against him, and a taunting proverb against him, and say, Woe to him that increaseth that which is not his! how long? and to him that ladeth himself with thick clay! 7 Shall they not rise up suddenly that shall bite thee, and awake that shall vex thee, and thou shalt be for booties unto them?
- ↑ Habakkuk 2:8 Because thou hast spoiled many nations, all the remnant of the people shall spoil thee; because of men’s blood, and for the violence of the land, of the city, and of all that dwell therein.
- ↑ Hosea 8:7 For they have sown the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind: it hath no stalk: the bud shall yield no meal: if so be it yield, the strangers shall swallow it up.
- ↑ Habakkuk 2:9 Woe to him that coveteth an evil covetousness to his house, that he may set his nest on high, that he may be delivered from the power of evil! 10 Thou hast consulted shame to thy house by cutting off many people, and hast sinned against thy soul. 11 For the stone shall cry out of the wall, and the beam out of the timber shall answer it.
- ↑ Habakkuk 2:12 Woe to him that buildeth a town with blood, and stablisheth a city by iniquity!
- ↑ Galatians 5:13 For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another. 14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 15 But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another. 16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. 17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. 18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.