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"The masses continue with an [[appetite]] for [[benefits]] and the habit of receiving them by way of a rule of [[force]] and violence. The people, having grown accustomed to [[Bite|feed at the expense of others]] and to depend for their livelihood on the property of others... institute the rule of [[force|violence]]; <Ref>[[Matthew 11]]:12 And from the days of [[John the Baptist]] until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by [[force]]. </Ref> and now [[cities of blood|uniting their forces massacre, banish, and plunder]],<Ref>[[Luke 16]]:16 The law and the prophets [were] until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it.</Ref> until they degenerate again into [[perfect savages]] and find once more a master and monarch." <Ref>"But when a new generation arises and the [[democracy]] falls into the hands of the grandchildren of its founders, they have become so accustomed to freedom and equality that they no longer value them, and begin to aim at pre-eminence; and it is chiefly those of ample fortune who fall into this error. 6 So when they begin to lust for power and cannot attain it through themselves or their own good qualities, they ruin their estates, tempting and corrupting the people in every possible way. 7 And hence when by their [[foolish]] thirst for reputation they have created among the masses an appetite for gifts and the habit of receiving them, [[democracy]] in its turn is abolished and changes into a rule of [[force]] and violence. 8 For the people, having grown accustomed to [[Covetous practices|feed at the expense of others and to depend for their livelihood on the property of others]], as soon as they find a leader who is enterprising but is excluded from the houses of office by his penury, institute the rule of violence; 9 and now [[cities of blood|uniting their forces massacre]], banish, and plunder, until they degenerate again into [[perfect savages]] and find once more a master and monarch." [[Polybius]]: The Histories (composed at Rome around 130 BC)[https:// | "The masses continue with an [[appetite]] for [[benefits]] and the habit of receiving them by way of a rule of [[force]] and violence. The people, having grown accustomed to [[Bite|feed at the expense of others]] and to depend for their livelihood on the property of others... institute the rule of [[force|violence]]; <Ref>[[Matthew 11]]:12 And from the days of [[John the Baptist]] until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by [[force]]. </Ref> and now [[cities of blood|uniting their forces massacre, banish, and plunder]],<Ref>[[Luke 16]]:16 The law and the prophets [were] until John: since that time the [[kingdom of God]] is preached, and every man presseth into it.</Ref> until they [[degenerate]] again into [[perfect savages]] and find once more a master and monarch." <Ref>"But when a new generation arises and the [[democracy]] falls into the hands of the grandchildren of its founders, they have become so accustomed to freedom and equality that they no longer value them, and begin to aim at pre-eminence; and it is chiefly those of ample fortune who fall into this error. 6 So when they begin to lust for power and cannot attain it through themselves or their own good qualities, they ruin their estates, tempting and corrupting the people in every possible way. 7 And hence when by their [[foolish]] thirst for reputation they have created among the masses an appetite for gifts and the habit of receiving them, [[democracy]] in its turn is abolished and changes into a rule of [[force]] and violence. 8 For the people, having grown accustomed to [[Covetous practices|feed at the expense of others and to depend for their livelihood on the property of others]], as soon as they find a leader who is enterprising but is excluded from the houses of office by his penury, institute the rule of violence; 9 and now [[cities of blood|uniting their forces massacre]], banish, and plunder, until they degenerate again into [[perfect savages]] and find once more a master and monarch." [[Polybius]]: The Histories (composed at Rome around 130 BC)[https://www.loebclassics.com/view/LCL161/2012/volume.xml Fragments of Book at Loeb's classic library], or see our comparison of translations at [[Polybius#Translations_compare]] </Ref> <Ref>An alternate translation in context, "9. For no sooner had the knowledge of the jealousy and hatred existing in the citizens against them which is replaced by [[democracy]], emboldened some one to oppose the government by word or deed, than he was sure to find the whole people ready and prepared to take his side. Having then got rid of these rulers by assassination or exile, they do not venture to set up a king again, being still in terror of the injustice to which this led before; nor dare they intrust the common interests again to more than one, considering the recent example of their misconduct: and therefore, as the only sound hope left them is that which depends upon themselves, they are driven to take refuge in that; and so changed the constitution from an oligarchy to a democracy, and took upon themselves the superintendence and charge of the state. And as long as any survive who have had experience of oligarchical supremacy and domination, they regard their present constitution as a blessing, and hold equality and freedom as of the utmost value. ''But as soon as a new generation has arisen, and the democracy has descended to their children’s children, long association weakens their value for equality and freedom, and some seek to become more powerful than the ordinary citizens; and the most liable to this temptation are the rich.'' (which degenerates into rule of corruption and violence, only to be stopped by a return to despotism.) So when they begin to be fond of office, and find themselves unable to obtain it by their own unassisted efforts and their own merits, they ruin their estates, while enticing and corrupting the common people in every possible way. By which means when, in their senseless mania for reputation, they have made the populace ready and greedy to receive bribes, the virtue of [[democracy]] is destroyed, and it is transformed into a government of violence and the strong hand. '''For the mob, habituated to feed at the expense of others, and to have its hopes of a livelihood in the property of its neighbours, as soon as it has got a leader sufficiently ambitious and daring, being excluded by poverty from the sweets of [[flesh pots|civil honours]], produces a reign of mere violence. Then come tumultuous assemblies, massacres, banishments, redivisions of land; until, after losing all trace of civilisation, it has once more found a master and a despot.'''" Translator: [[Evelyn Shirley Shuckburgh]], [https://www.gutenberg.org/files/44126/44126-h/44126-h.htm Release Date: November 8, 2013] [EBook #44126]</Ref> | ||
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[[Polybius]] saw the downfall of the [[republic]] by way of their [[free bread]] and [[welfare]] a 150 years before the first [[Emperator|Emperor]] of [[Rome]] and 175 years before the birth of [[John the Baptist]] and [[Jesus]] the [[Christ]] who opposed these [[Corban|same systems]] of [[free bread]] at your neighbor's expense. | : [[Polybius]] saw the downfall of the [[republic]] by way of their [[free bread]] and [[welfare]] a 150 years before the first [[Emperator|Emperor]] of [[Rome]] and 175 years before the birth of [[John the Baptist]] and [[Jesus]] the [[Christ]] who opposed these [[Corban|same systems]] of [[free bread]] at your neighbor's expense. | ||
The authoritarian [[State]] uses [[force]] and violence to become the [[Benefactors]] of the people. They | : The authoritarian [[State]] often uses [[force]] and violence to become the [[Benefactors]] of the people if the covet what is their neighbors'. They make a social contract where one class of [[citizen]] is ''[[force]]d'' to provide for another class through "''[[legal charity]]''" which is not true [[charity]]. The writings of the Apostles [[warned]] along with countless passages of ancient writings of the [[prophets]] including [[Proverbs 23]] which warned them about what Christ [[Benefactors|forbid]] which was the [[covetous practices]] of [[socialist]] forms of [[government]]. | ||
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"The masses continue with an appetite for benefits and the habit of receiving them by way of a rule of force and violence. The people, having grown accustomed to feed at the expense of others and to depend for their livelihood on the property of others... institute the rule of violence; [1] and now uniting their forces massacre, banish, and plunder,[2] until they degenerate again into perfect savages and find once more a master and monarch." [3] [4]
- Polybius saw the downfall of the republic by way of their free bread and welfare a 150 years before the first Emperor of Rome and 175 years before the birth of John the Baptist and Jesus the Christ who opposed these same systems of free bread at your neighbor's expense.
- The authoritarian State often uses force and violence to become the Benefactors of the people if the covet what is their neighbors'. They make a social contract where one class of citizen is forced to provide for another class through "legal charity" which is not true charity. The writings of the Apostles warned along with countless passages of ancient writings of the prophets including Proverbs 23 which warned them about what Christ forbid which was the covetous practices of socialist forms of government.
- ↑ Matthew 11:12 And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.
- ↑ Luke 16:16 The law and the prophets [were] until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it.
- ↑ "But when a new generation arises and the democracy falls into the hands of the grandchildren of its founders, they have become so accustomed to freedom and equality that they no longer value them, and begin to aim at pre-eminence; and it is chiefly those of ample fortune who fall into this error. 6 So when they begin to lust for power and cannot attain it through themselves or their own good qualities, they ruin their estates, tempting and corrupting the people in every possible way. 7 And hence when by their foolish thirst for reputation they have created among the masses an appetite for gifts and the habit of receiving them, democracy in its turn is abolished and changes into a rule of force and violence. 8 For the people, having grown accustomed to feed at the expense of others and to depend for their livelihood on the property of others, as soon as they find a leader who is enterprising but is excluded from the houses of office by his penury, institute the rule of violence; 9 and now uniting their forces massacre, banish, and plunder, until they degenerate again into perfect savages and find once more a master and monarch." Polybius: The Histories (composed at Rome around 130 BC)Fragments of Book at Loeb's classic library, or see our comparison of translations at Polybius#Translations_compare
- ↑ An alternate translation in context, "9. For no sooner had the knowledge of the jealousy and hatred existing in the citizens against them which is replaced by democracy, emboldened some one to oppose the government by word or deed, than he was sure to find the whole people ready and prepared to take his side. Having then got rid of these rulers by assassination or exile, they do not venture to set up a king again, being still in terror of the injustice to which this led before; nor dare they intrust the common interests again to more than one, considering the recent example of their misconduct: and therefore, as the only sound hope left them is that which depends upon themselves, they are driven to take refuge in that; and so changed the constitution from an oligarchy to a democracy, and took upon themselves the superintendence and charge of the state. And as long as any survive who have had experience of oligarchical supremacy and domination, they regard their present constitution as a blessing, and hold equality and freedom as of the utmost value. But as soon as a new generation has arisen, and the democracy has descended to their children’s children, long association weakens their value for equality and freedom, and some seek to become more powerful than the ordinary citizens; and the most liable to this temptation are the rich. (which degenerates into rule of corruption and violence, only to be stopped by a return to despotism.) So when they begin to be fond of office, and find themselves unable to obtain it by their own unassisted efforts and their own merits, they ruin their estates, while enticing and corrupting the common people in every possible way. By which means when, in their senseless mania for reputation, they have made the populace ready and greedy to receive bribes, the virtue of democracy is destroyed, and it is transformed into a government of violence and the strong hand. For the mob, habituated to feed at the expense of others, and to have its hopes of a livelihood in the property of its neighbours, as soon as it has got a leader sufficiently ambitious and daring, being excluded by poverty from the sweets of civil honours, produces a reign of mere violence. Then come tumultuous assemblies, massacres, banishments, redivisions of land; until, after losing all trace of civilisation, it has once more found a master and a despot." Translator: Evelyn Shirley Shuckburgh, Release Date: November 8, 2013 [EBook #44126]