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[[Votive]] is also defined as "offered, given, dedicated, etc., in accordance with a vow." There are two uses of the word ''vow'' in the Bible.
[[Votive]] is also defined as "offered, given, dedicated, etc., in accordance with a vow." There are two uses of the word ''vow'' in the Bible.
In the Old Testament, a votive offering was a voluntary offering vowed to God but not required by the Law. The technical term in Hebrew for such an offering is neder (vow).


The Torah makes provision for "[[freewill offerings]]" which may be made by any individual. These are different from [[votive]] offerings which are linked to a vow or ''prayer''.  
The Torah makes provision for "[[freewill offerings]]" which may be made by any individual. These are different from [[votive]] offerings which are linked to a vow or ''prayer''.  
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ḇin·ḏā·ḇāh — 1 Occ.</Ref>
ḇin·ḏā·ḇāh — 1 Occ.</Ref>


In the text we see  "but for a vow" appearing with additional letters וּלְנֵ֖דֶר ([[[Vav]][[Lamed]][Nun]][[Dalet]][[Reish]]).
In the text we see  "but for a vow" appearing with additional letters וּלְנֵ֖דֶר ([[Vav]][[Lamed]][[Nun]][[Dalet]][[Reish]]).


== Is voting bad ==
== Is voting bad ==


People are already in a political system that is a direct or indirect democracy certainly have motivation to vote.
People today are already in a political system that is a direct or indirect democracy certainly have motivation at least to vote for their own protection.


Democracies are not always a good form of government and for centuries in America they were not considered to good. In fact, until World War II [[democracy]] was considered “A government of the masses. Authority derived through mass meeting or any form of direct expression. Results in mobocracy. Attitude toward property is communistic - negating property rights. Attitude toward law is that the will of the majority shall regulate, whether it is based upon deliberation or governed by passion, prejudice, and impulse, without restraint or regard for consequences. Results in demagogism, license, agitation, discontent, anarchy.”<Ref>1928 U.S. Army Training Manual</Ref>
Democracies are not always a good form of government and for centuries in America they were not considered to good. In fact, until World War II [[democracy]] was considered “A government of the masses. Authority derived through mass meeting or any form of direct expression. Results in mobocracy. Attitude toward property is communistic - negating property rights. Attitude toward law is that the will of the majority shall regulate, whether it is based upon deliberation or governed by passion, prejudice, and impulse, without restraint or regard for consequences. Results in demagogism, license, agitation, discontent, anarchy.”<Ref>1928 U.S. Army Training Manual</Ref>


If you live in a democracy and you have a right to vote you certainly may feel a need to vote in self defense in order to protect yourself and your neighbor from the [[covetous practices]] of the [[welfare]] state and those who desire to rule over and even rob their neighbor.
If you live in a [[democracy]] and you have a right to vote. You certainly may feel a need to vote in self defense in order to protect yourself and your neighbor from the [[covetous practices]] of the [[welfare]] state and those who desire to rule over and even rob their neighbor through [[socialist]] schemes of wealth distribution.


John Adams: “[[Democracy]]... while it lasts is more bloody than either aristocracy or monarchy. Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There is never a democracy that did not commit suicide."
John Adams: “[[Democracy]]... while it lasts is more bloody than either aristocracy or monarchy. Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There is never a democracy that did not commit suicide."


Israel, before they made the grave mistake of electing to have a king/commander in chief supported their government entirely with [[freewill offerings]]. They had gathered in small groups [[tens]] and linked those groups through a [[network]] of [[Tens|tens, hundreds and thousands]]. Jesus [[commanded]] that his disciples do the same thing. The primary purpose was to create a [[daily ministration]] based on [[charity]] rather than the [[force]]d contributions of [[Rome]] and [[Herod]].
[[Herod]] had set up such a system if compelled sacrifices of the people with the support of the [[Pharisees]] which is referenced in the Bible as [[Corban]]. It was a system of [[taxation]] to fund the [[welfare]] system of Judea.
Originally [[welfare]] in free societies were based on a systems of [[charity]]. That system of votive offerings was originally based on [[faith]], [[hope]] and [[charity]] but under this new system it was rooted in [[force]], [[fear]], and [[fealty]]. The latter system makes you [[merchandise]] and often curse children with debt. It is because these systems of [[socialism]] are essentially covetous practices that make the people a [[surety]] for debt.


The Bible is filled with [[warnings]] of these [[one purse]] schemes which ''run to death''.


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::    While we do that we should do that together in [[Tens|small intimate]] groups [[network]]ed together.
::    While we do that we should do that together in [[Tens|small intimate]] groups [[network]]ed together.
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Revision as of 09:59, 11 September 2020

Votive

A votive deposit or votive offering is one or more objects displayed or deposited, without the intention of recovery or use, in a sacred place for broadly religious purposes.

Votive is also defined as "offered, given, dedicated, etc., in accordance with a vow." There are two uses of the word vow in the Bible.

In the Old Testament, a votive offering was a voluntary offering vowed to God but not required by the Law. The technical term in Hebrew for such an offering is neder (vow).

The Torah makes provision for "freewill offerings" which may be made by any individual. These are different from votive offerings which are linked to a vow or prayer.

"Either a bullock or a lamb that hath any thing superfluous or lacking in his parts, that mayest thou offer [for] a freewill offering[1]; but for a vow[2] it shall not be accepted." Leviticus 22:23

In this verse a clear differentiation is made between the two. The Hebrew root letters for a freewill offering are נדב (NunDaletBeit) which is the noun nadab[1] from the verb nadab[3], but for a votive offering there are the letters נדר (NunDaletReish) forming the noun neder[2] from the root word, a verb, nadar[4].

In the text we see "[as] a freewill offering" appearing with an additional letter נְדָבָה֙ (NunDaletBeitHey). It takes this form some ten times[5] but appears in other form some 16 additional forms.[6]

In the text we see "but for a vow" appearing with additional letters וּלְנֵ֖דֶר (VavLamedNunDaletReish).

Is voting bad

People today are already in a political system that is a direct or indirect democracy certainly have motivation at least to vote for their own protection.

Democracies are not always a good form of government and for centuries in America they were not considered to good. In fact, until World War II democracy was considered “A government of the masses. Authority derived through mass meeting or any form of direct expression. Results in mobocracy. Attitude toward property is communistic - negating property rights. Attitude toward law is that the will of the majority shall regulate, whether it is based upon deliberation or governed by passion, prejudice, and impulse, without restraint or regard for consequences. Results in demagogism, license, agitation, discontent, anarchy.”[7]

If you live in a democracy and you have a right to vote. You certainly may feel a need to vote in self defense in order to protect yourself and your neighbor from the covetous practices of the welfare state and those who desire to rule over and even rob their neighbor through socialist schemes of wealth distribution.

John Adams: “Democracy... while it lasts is more bloody than either aristocracy or monarchy. Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There is never a democracy that did not commit suicide."

Israel, before they made the grave mistake of electing to have a king/commander in chief supported their government entirely with freewill offerings. They had gathered in small groups tens and linked those groups through a network of tens, hundreds and thousands. Jesus commanded that his disciples do the same thing. The primary purpose was to create a daily ministration based on charity rather than the forced contributions of Rome and Herod.

Herod had set up such a system if compelled sacrifices of the people with the support of the Pharisees which is referenced in the Bible as Corban. It was a system of taxation to fund the welfare system of Judea.

Originally welfare in free societies were based on a systems of charity. That system of votive offerings was originally based on faith, hope and charity but under this new system it was rooted in force, fear, and fealty. The latter system makes you merchandise and often curse children with debt. It is because these systems of socialism are essentially covetous practices that make the people a surety for debt.

The Bible is filled with warnings of these one purse schemes which run to death.



We have only a few things to do:

Repent which means to think a different way.
Seek to establish a government that run on love and charity instead of fear and force.
Seek righteousness in everything we do where ever we are at or what ever status we are in.
While we do that we should do that together in small intimate groups networked together.
  1. 1.0 1.1 05071 ^הבדנ^ nᵉdabah \@ned-aw-baw’\@ NunDaletBeitHey from 05068 NunDaletBeit offer willingly; n f; {See TWOT on 1299 @@ "1299a"} AV-freewill offering 15, offerings 9, free offering 2, freely 2, willing offering 1, voluntary offering 1, plentiful 1, voluntarily 1, voluntary 1, willing 1, willingly 1; 26
    1) voluntariness, free-will offering
    1a) voluntariness
    1b) freewill, voluntary, offering
  2. 2.0 2.1 05088 ^רדנ^ neder \@neh’- der\@ or ^רדנ^ neder \@nay’- der\@ from the verb nadar 05087; n m; {See TWOT on 1308 @@ "1308a"} AV-vow 58, vowed 2; 60
    1) vow, votive offering
  3. 05068 ^בדנ^ nadab \@naw-dab’\@ a primitive root BeitDaletNun; v; {See TWOT on 1299} AV-offered willingly 6, willingly offered 5, willing 2, offered 1, willing 1, offered freely 1, give willingly 1; 17
    1) to incite, impel, make willing
    1a) (Qal) to incite, impel
    1b) (Hithpael)
    1b1) to volunteer
    1b2) to offer free-will offerings
    • See also 05069 בדנ nᵉdab translated AV-freely offered, freewill offering, offering willingly, minded of their own freewill; defined
    to volunteer, offer freely
  4. 05087 ^רדנ^ nadar \@naw-dar’\@ a primitive root; v; {See TWOT on 1308} AV-vow 30, made 1; 31
    1) to vow, make a vow
    1a) (Qal) to vow a vow
  5. Exodus 35:29 HEB: בְנֵי־ יִשְׂרָאֵ֛ל נְדָבָ֖ה לַיהוָֽה׃ פ
    KJV: brought a willing offering unto the LORD,
    Exodus 36:3
    HEB: אֵלָ֥יו ע֛וֹד נְדָבָ֖ה בַּבֹּ֥קֶר בַּבֹּֽקֶר׃
    KJV: it [withal]. And they brought yet unto him free offerings every morning.
    Leviticus 7:16
    HEB: נֶ֣דֶר ׀ א֣וֹ נְדָבָ֗ה זֶ֚בַח קָרְבָּנ֔וֹ
    KJV: [be] a vow, or a voluntary offering, it shall be eaten
    Leviticus 22:23
    HEB: שָׂר֣וּעַ וְקָל֑וּט נְדָבָה֙ תַּעֲשֶׂ֣ה אֹת֔וֹ
    KJV: that mayest thou offer [for] a freewill offering; but for a vow
    Deuteronomy 23:23
    HEB: לַיהוָ֤ה אֱלֹהֶ֙יךָ֙ נְדָבָ֔ה אֲשֶׁ֥ר דִּבַּ֖רְתָּ
    KJV: and perform; [even] a freewill offering, according as thou hast vowed Ezra 3:5
    HEB: וּלְכֹ֛ל מִתְנַדֵּ֥ב נְדָבָ֖ה לַיהוָֽה׃
    KJV: and of every one that willingly offered a freewill offering unto the LORD.
    Ezra 8:28
    HEB: וְהַכֶּ֤סֶף וְהַזָּהָב֙ נְדָבָ֔ה לַיהוָ֖ה אֱלֹהֵ֥י
    KJV: and the gold [are] a freewill offering unto the LORD
    Ezekiel 46:12
    HEB: יַעֲשֶׂה֩ הַנָּשִׂ֨יא נְדָבָ֜ה עוֹלָ֣ה אֽוֹ־
    KJV: shall prepare a voluntary burnt offering
    Ezekiel 46:12
    HEB: אֽוֹ־ שְׁלָמִים֮ נְדָבָ֣ה לַֽיהוָה֒ וּפָ֣תַֽח
    KJV: or peace offerings voluntarily unto the LORD,
    Hosea 14:4
    HEB: מְשׁ֣וּבָתָ֔ם אֹהֲבֵ֖ם נְדָבָ֑ה כִּ֛י שָׁ֥ב
    KJV: I will love them freely: for mine anger
  6. nə·ḏā·ḇāh — 10 Occ., but other occurrences have different letters
    bin·ḏā·ḇāh — 1 Occ., han·nə·ḏā·ḇāh — 1 Occ., lin·ḏā·ḇāh — 2 Occ., nə·ḏā·ḇō·wṯ — 3 Occ., niḏ·ḇaṯ — 1 Occ., niḏ·ḇō·wṯ — 2 Occ., niḏ·ḇō·w·ṯām — 1 Occ., niḏ·ḇō·w·ṯê·ḵem — 1 Occ., wə·niḏ·ḇō·ṯe·ḵā — 1 Occ., wə·niḏ·ḇō·ṯê·ḵem — 2 Occ., ḇin·ḏā·ḇāh — 1 Occ.
  7. 1928 U.S. Army Training Manual