Talk:Home church

Looking at what is posing as Church today it is no wonder that so many people think they do not need “the Church”.

Lots of people have a problem with the modern version of an organized Church but one problem seems the way the Church is organized today. The Modern Church is not organized like nor for the same purpose as the early Church.

We clearly see Jesus “calling out” men and then "appoint" them "a kingdom" but also "commanded" to gather in groups of Tens and forbid them to “exercise authority one over the other” like the “governments” of the "world".

We see them complying with that command and providing all the social welfare for Christians who are eventually persecuted because they will not apply to Caesar through his temples for his "free bread" and welfare benefits because that would be coveting their neighbors goods through men who call themselves benefactors but exercise authority. The called out appointed men, the Church, were benefactors locally and internationally, as we see in acts rightly dividing bread from house to house, providing a "daily ministration" and international relief during economic "dearths". They were able to do this is because they organized the people by a network of voluntary "companies" of tens which were connected through servant ministers of these called out public servants all across the world as Jesus "commanded".The modern Church and even home church groups say it is okay to apply to the rulers of the governments who exercise authority taking from their neighbor to obtain their social welfare benefits which practices do seem to go against Christ and the prophets who said we should not covet nor desire the wages of unrighteousness. Home church House Church https://www.allaboutgod.com/house-church.htm?fbclid=IwAR1HmmWrKU4qlopMFTEXZoWybvxnczF3c_x_91fDIG-5HWpd2JnGu2uXx9M House Church – What are they? What is a house church? We are used to thinking of church as a building, but how does the Bible portray the church? Interestingly, the Bible never uses the word “church” to describe a building; instead, it gives us the picture of the church as a family. Like a family, there are spiritual mothers, fathers, sisters, and brothers in Christ. The church is called “God’s household” (1 Timothy 3:15).

1 Timothy 3:15 But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.

They shared common meals together (Acts 2:46, 1 Corinthians 11:20-21). Lived life together (Acts 2:44-46) and as a family, were to care for and love one another deeply (1 Peter 1:22). Acts 2:45 And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all [men], as every man had need. CONTEXT 42 ¶ And they continued stedfastly in the apostles’ doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers. 43 And fear came upon every soul: and many wonders and signs were done by the apostles. 44 And all that believed were together, and had all things common; 45 And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need. 46 And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart, 47 Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.

1 Corinthians 11:20 When ye come together therefore into one place, this is not to eat the Lord’s supper. 21 For in eating every one taketh before other his own supper: and one is hungry, and another is drunken. CONTEXT 17 ¶ Now in this that I declare unto you I praise you not, that ye come together not for the better (advantage), but for the worse. 18 For first of all, when ye come together in (en with) the church, I hear that there be divisions among you; and I partly believe it. 19 For there must be also heresies(choices) among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you.... 22 What? have ye not houses to eat and to drink in? or despise ye the church of God, and shame them that have not? What shall I say to you? shall I praise you in this? I praise you not.

 23 ¶  For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, That the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread: 24  And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me. 25  After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me. 26  For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord’s death till he come. 27  Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord. 28  But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup. 29  For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord’s body. 30  For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep. 31  For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged. 32  But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world. 33  Wherefore, my brethren, when ye come together to eat, tarry one for another. 34  And if any man hunger, let him eat at home; that ye come not together unto condemnation. And the rest will I set in order when I come.

1 Peter 1:22 Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, [see that ye] love one another with a pure heart fervently:

Not surprisingly then, the New Testament churches typically met in the homes of believers.

Here are some biblical examples of New Testament house churches

Lydia’s House (Acts 16:40) An Upper Room (Acts 20:8) Priscilla and Aquila’s house (Romans 16:3-5, 1 Corinthians 16:19) Nympha’s house in Laodicea (Colossians 4:15) Archippa’s house (Philemon 2) Some in the West see the house church as a new phenomenon when, in reality, house churches have existed since the day of Pentecost (Acts 2:42-47). Many large churches today started because of a small group meeting in the homes of believers. In China, for example, the house church has been one of the vehicles God used to multiply the number of Chinese disciples from a few thousand in the 1930s to, by some estimates, more than 80 million believers today. House Church – The Numerous Advantages There are many good reasons to consider starting a house church:

It is a biblical model. It is family oriented; parents and children participate together as appropriate. People more easily get to know one another in a small group. Smaller groups can lead to increased accountability to each other. Everyone participates and ministers so people grow in using their spiritual gifts. Highly trained pastors are not required in order to lead large numbers of people. There is no need for expensive, time-consuming programs. House churches direct their finances toward evangelism, community service, or caring for one member’s needs instead of purchasing expensive buildings. They are low profile and thus, better able to withstand persecution and oppression. What do people do in house churches? Acts 2:42-47 gives us an outline of what should happen in house church. Believers devote themselves to... The Apostle’s teaching – reading, studying, and discussing God’s Word. Fellowship – being with each other, enjoying one another, and encouraging one another. Breaking of bread - sharing meals together and participating in the Lord’s Supper. Prayer – praying for one another’s needs and for advancing God’s kingdom. Being together – hanging out and living in harmony with one another. Giving – providing for one another’s needs and for outreach. Worship – praising and glorifying God through word and music. House Church – A Way to Reach a New Generation? Are we saying that a house church is the only legitimate way to “do” church? No, but house churches are a biblical model and are “real” churches with a number of advantages. Just as there are many different flavors of ice cream, so churches come in many different flavors. While the house church may not appeal to everyone, they may be a wonderful alternative to reach and disciple new generations who are not familiar with or may be uncomfortable in a traditional church setting.

This listing of house churches and other types of churches in your area can be found here.

Learn More! Christian Fellowship Christian Fellowship - Christian Companionship Christian fellowship occurs when two or more Christians are in one another's company. The dictionary defines fellowship as "friendly association with others; companionship." Christian fellowship, then, involves friendly association with other Christians. It means you choose Christians to be your companions.

Christian Fellowship - What Does it Mean for Me? Christian fellowship begins through a process of adoption. Are you a Christian today? If you are, you have been adopted by God. You may have heard it said that we are all God's children, but the truth is, we don't become God's children until we are adopted, through faith in Christ.

He predestined us to be adopted as his sons through Jesus Christ, in accordance with his pleasure and will. (Ephesians 1:5) If we were all God's children by virtue of being His creation, then adoption wouldn't be necessary. Ask any parents of adopted children and they'll tell you the process is long, hard and painful! Why would God choose adoption if we were already His children? Because God longs to have you as His child, He sacrificed Himself, in the person of Jesus Christ, on the cross in order to purchase your salvation.

So if you've received Christ as your personal Savior and Lord, congratulations! You are now a member of God's family. Christian Fellowship - Like-minded Communion After adoption, Christian fellowship grows naturally. Because it's natural for us to want to be around people like ourselves, in time you'll find yourself desiring the companionship of people who think like you do. As a Christian, depending on where you live on this planet, your beliefs may now be in stark contrast to the society around you. That desire for fellowship with "like-thinkers" is God-given.

If you ignore it, or think that by hanging around with "Christians" your non-believing friends will think you're not "cool," you deny yourself the companionship of your new family members, stunt your Christian growth - and worse, you open yourself to risk.

One phenomena common to all believers is the recognition that without Christ, our spiritual understanding was dark. Some even say, "It's as if I stumbled in the darkness, and then God threw on the light switch." Unbelievers are still living in spiritual darkness. While God desires that we live among them and share what we have learned with them, we are called to be separate in our choice of close companions, and for a very good reason! Paul tells us why:

Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? And what fellowship can light have with darkness? (2 Corinthians 6:14) If you seek out fellowship with other believers, you will find yourself surrounded by new friends who'll think you're very "cool" - because God thinks so, too! And through that new friendship, you'll discover that the light only gets brighter. Christian Fellowship - Where Do I Find It? Christian fellowship is critical! Being in the company of people who think like you do is very important to your growth and survival as a Christian. If you live in a church-wealthy community, you are likely to find that companionship. Most churches offer some kind of small group experience that you can become a part of. If you can't find satisfying fellowship at your church, it's possible God wants to move you somewhere else. Consider that option and pray! God will direct your heart.

But what if you don't have great churches around you? Where then do you go to find Christian fellowship?

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4 ways to provide for the welfare off society. But only two systems The none system ways is that people who have randomly help people in need or the people who are in need randomly take from people who have. The two systems are People collectively force people who have give through government what the government needs to help the needy Or The people systematically give charitably to the wisest and most charitable people of society who gather in an intimate network providing a practical daily ministration to the worthy poor. The latter is both peculiar and free.

We are losing sight of civility in government and politics. Debate and dialogue is taking a back seat to the politics of destruction and anger and control. Dogma has replaced thoughtful discussion between people of differing views. James McGreevey

Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you’ve got, including your freedom.—  I was unable to identify the source as Ezra Taft Benson, although he might have ][A version of part of this is attributed to Gerald R. Ford. Reagan said the same thing basically and others "If government can give you rights, government can take them away from you." - Roy Moore If men were angels, no government would be necessary. James Madison

The philosophy of the school room in one generation will be the philosophy of government in the next. Abraham Lincoln