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There are two kinds of love. | There are two kinds of love. | ||
* The one that takes from others, lusting after what | * The one that takes from others, lusting after what you can get from a relationship with people, food, or anything you think you love. | ||
* The other is a love that gives life and liberty to others where things become an instrument of that gifting of life to others. | * The other is a love that gives life and liberty to others where things become an instrument of that gifting of life to others. | ||
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Man was given dominion over the garden and that which lived in the garden and was told to dress it and keep it. | Man was given dominion over the garden and that which lived in the garden and was told to dress it and keep it. | ||
In the garden there | In the garden there was a warning about the [[Trees|tree]] of knowledge of good and evil and the [[Trees|tree]] of life. One we could eat from and the other we could not eat of without serious repercussions. | ||
It was in God's character that we should be given choice. If we ate of the [[Trees|tree]] of life then God the Father was the source and the standard by which we lived. The [[Trees|tree]] of knowledge was supposed to make us gods. By eating of that fruit we could create the standard by which to live but we had to have an alternative source for our life. | It was in God's character that we should be given choice. If we ate of the [[Trees|tree]] of life then God the Father was the source and the standard by which we lived. The [[Trees|tree]] of knowledge was supposed to make us gods. By eating of that fruit we could create the standard by which to live but we had to have an alternative source for our life. | ||
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How do we know if we love God or merely an image of God that we have created in our own mind? | How do we know if we love God or merely an image of God that we have created in our own mind? | ||
We know there is a form of love that is not the love of God but is a man made love. | We know there is a form of love that is not the love of God but is a man-made love. | ||
Jesus talked about sinners loving one another and said they already had their reward. John talked about God dwelling in us if we had that love that Jesus taught and to have that love we needed to be born of God. We need to come in the name of God and Christ which means in their [[Name|Character]]. | Jesus talked about sinners loving one another and said they already had their reward. John talked about God dwelling in us if we had that love that Jesus taught and to have that love we needed to be born of God. We need to come in the name of God and Christ which means in their [[Name|Character]]. | ||
Are they talking about that love that is like power as Timothy relates it to a “spirit not of fear” | Are they talking about that love that is like power as Timothy relates it to a “spirit not of fear”? Paul talks about love “fulfilling the law” and the “law being spiritual”. Christ seemed to alter the laws of physics, with the power of His love, performing miracles. | ||
== Love enemies == | == Love enemies == | ||
Revision as of 06:35, 15 June 2016
Two Kinds
There are two kinds of love.
- The one that takes from others, lusting after what you can get from a relationship with people, food, or anything you think you love.
- The other is a love that gives life and liberty to others where things become an instrument of that gifting of life to others.
God is love and the life He gives is that love or at least the evidence of it.
In the beginning man was created in the image of God who breathed life into him. His spiritual and physical DNA was designed by God after God's own character.
Man was given dominion over the garden and that which lived in the garden and was told to dress it and keep it.
In the garden there was a warning about the tree of knowledge of good and evil and the tree of life. One we could eat from and the other we could not eat of without serious repercussions.
It was in God's character that we should be given choice. If we ate of the tree of life then God the Father was the source and the standard by which we lived. The tree of knowledge was supposed to make us gods. By eating of that fruit we could create the standard by which to live but we had to have an alternative source for our life.
Man has created an alternate form of love that is reciprocating which has no infinite source. It is about taking and receiving within a closed system.
Until man returns to God and the tree of life he may imagine that he knows God's love, and he will remain deceived by his knowledge of good and evil.
How do we know if we love God or merely an image of God that we have created in our own mind?
We know there is a form of love that is not the love of God but is a man-made love.
Jesus talked about sinners loving one another and said they already had their reward. John talked about God dwelling in us if we had that love that Jesus taught and to have that love we needed to be born of God. We need to come in the name of God and Christ which means in their Character.
Are they talking about that love that is like power as Timothy relates it to a “spirit not of fear”? Paul talks about love “fulfilling the law” and the “law being spiritual”. Christ seemed to alter the laws of physics, with the power of His love, performing miracles.
Love enemies
When Christ loves His enemy[1] it is like hot coals, as the Old[2] and the New [3]Testaments tell us, but when He loves those who love him it is a healing warmth and strength.
In fact there is no grace if we only love those who love us.[4]
So again Moses and Jesus were in agreement about this loving of your enemy.[5]
This is because if you let God be the judge then God will judge rightly and bring His cause and effect against the wicked.[6]
What happens when you love your enemy?
Can you love your enemy?
Have you ever loved your enemy?
Or is the only love you know the love of sinners?
Do you love those who like you, respect you, cater and caress to you, fondle and fill your desires, admire you, comfort you?
Is your love all about you?
Love neighbors of neighbors
Is your congregation gathering to make you feel good by conforming to forms and fancies, rules and rituals?
Is your love one of mutual back scratching?
Is your love that reciprocating love of prostitutes and whores?
Or is your love like a rock of faith unshaken, steady, constant, peaceful, patient, invulnerable to the willful whims and whining of others as well as the wickedness and whips of your enemy?
If you cannot love your enemy with peace in your heart, then you are not ready for the ministry in a religious order.
You simply are not in accord with Christ.
You do not have the tools to do the job required of you and will be a long time in training.
If you are addicted to anger, or hooked on hate, fettered by fear annoyed by anxiety then you are still very much a part of the world and entering a congregation or a congregation of ministers, an order, will not take you out of the world for its spirit still lives in you and there is no place where real love can dwell.
In fact if you are addicted to anything of the world then you are part of the world.
We can help you with freeing you from these bonds too, but it may take some hands on training and a lot more repentance.
- John 15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father’s commandments, and abide in his love.
- For if ye love them which love you, what thank have ye? for sinners also love those that love them. Luke 6:32
- Matthew 5:46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?
- Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God. 1 John 4:7
- 1 John 4:12 No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us.
- 2 Timothy 1:7 For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.
- Romans 13:10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love [is] the fulfilling of the law.
- If ye love me, keep my commandments. John 14:15
- John 5:42 But I know you, that ye have not the love of God in you.
- Malachi 2:10 ¶ Have we not all one father? hath not one God created us? why do we deal treacherously every man against his brother, by profaning the covenant of our fathers?
- Matthew 15:3 But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition?
Steady love
This zeal and passion seem great and to some it is exhilarating but faith is a slow and steady plow. Passion and ecstasy inevitably bring depression and confusion. A damn-the-torpedoes-full-steam-a-head attitude requires anger which is a form of aggressive fear.
We have to set these things aside.
Settling a dispute in an arbitration concerning receiving a gift at one of our Churches over the last few weeks I wrote something to the effect:
- As some of you may know the Church consists of two groups providing different services of the government of God. Men like the apostles and the 120 who were what we might call religious orders under the restrictions of Christ and the other were the people in freewill congregations as free souls under God. Most of those who would like to be free souls under God today are in the bondage of Egypt which is what Judea had descended to at the time of Christ.
- Being in an order requires that you give up the right to everything you have and earn to Christ for his purposes which is to serve others, feed his flock etc... To not give the appearance of evil you do that by holding all things in common with the members of your religious order because no one man is a Church.
- I do not know any group that is doing that properly or really in one accord but it is my hope to see it some day.
- The congregation does not own all things in common. They do not have to give up all and follow Christ who was rich but gave up all his wealth. They should care about others as much as themselves and love God with their whole heart, mind and soul. But I do not know any such congregations like right now although their is hope in some to be that way some day.
- You don't give to the Church by throwing money in the door. You pick someone who you believe is meeting or trying to meet the obligations imposed by Christ and you give it to him. It must be given entirely with no strings attached. All you have is the hope that he will use it properly. If the Church is to accept donation it does not have to wait until someone with perfect intent comes along. They just have to make reasonably sure that the money is not stolen and that there are no strings attached and that the giver knows that there are no strings attached.
- Then the minister has to make sure that he is doing God's will with those funds because they are not his but God's. That should be his biggest concern because that will make or brake him as a man and a minister.
- If only perfect people are allowed to give to the Church then you don't have to worry about any giving. If we are only allowed to give to perfect ministers then that is also the end of giving.
- In every act of giving there is an element of forgiving and visa versa... or God has nothing to do with it.
Secret love
Proverbs 27:5 "Open rebuke [is] better than secret love[7]."
Hosea 2:12 "And I will destroy her vines and her fig trees, whereof she hath said, These [are] my rewards that my lovers have given me: and I will make them a forest, and the beasts of the field shall eat them."
Isaiah 1:23 "Thy princes [are] rebellious, and companions of thieves: every one loveth gifts, and followeth after rewards: they judge not the fatherless, neither doth the cause of the widow come unto them."
Hosea 9:1 ¶ Rejoice not, O Israel, for joy, as [other] people: for thou hast gone a whoring from thy God, thou hast loved a reward upon every cornfloor. 2 The floor and the winepress shall not feed them, and the new wine shall fail in her. 3 They shall not dwell in the LORD’S land; but Ephraim shall return to Egypt, and they shall eat unclean things in Assyria. 4 They shall not offer wine offerings to the LORD, neither shall they be pleasing unto him: their sacrifices shall be unto them as the bread of mourners; all that eat thereof shall be polluted: for their bread for their soul shall not come into the house of the LORD. 5 What will ye do in the solemn day, and in the day of the feast of the LORD?
Proverbs 25:21 "If thine enemy be hungry, give him bread to eat; and if he be thirsty, give him water to drink: 22 For thou shalt heap coals of fire upon his head, and the LORD shall reward thee."
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== Footnotes ==
- ↑ Matthew 5:43 ¶ Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; 45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. 46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? 47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so? 48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
- ↑ Proverbs 25:21 If thine enemy be hungry, give him bread to eat; and if he be thirsty, give him water to drink: 22 For thou shalt heap coals of fire upon his head, and the LORD shall reward thee.
- ↑ Romans 12:20 Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head.
- ↑ Luke 6:32 For if ye love them which love you, what thank <Charis> have ye? for sinners also love those that love them.
- ↑ Exodus 23:4 If thou meet thine enemy’s ox or his ass going astray, thou shalt surely bring it back to him again. Exodus 23:5 If thou see the ass of him that hateth thee lying under his burden, and wouldest forbear to help him, thou shalt surely help with him. Proverbs 24:17 Rejoice not when thine enemy falleth, and let not thine heart be glad when he stumbleth:
- ↑ Proverbs 24:19 ¶ Fret not thyself because of evil [men], neither be thou envious at the wicked; Exodus 23:22 But if thou shalt indeed obey his voice, and do all that I speak; then I will be an enemy unto thine enemies, and an adversary unto thine adversaries.
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- 1) love
- 1a) human love for human object
- 1a1) of man toward man
- 1a2) of man toward himself
- 1a3) between man and woman
- 1a4) sexual desire
- 1a) human love for human object
- 2) God’s love to His people
- 1) love
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