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Harag kill
Harag kill


Surley put to death
Surley [[put to death]]


Moses killed Egyptian
Moses killed Egyptian


Cain killed able ???
Cain killed Able ???


Jonathan thinks a lot of the punishments for braking the law is death.
Jonathan thinks a lot of the punishments for braking the law is death.


First five commandments are about being a  giver of life and liberty  like the God of creation if we worship or serve that God.
First five commandments are about being a  giver of life and liberty  like the God of creation if we worship or serve that God.
The last five commandments are about not taking life or liberty from others or even desiring to do so by covering that life and liberty.
The last five commandments are about not taking life or liberty from others or even desiring to do so by covering that life and liberty.


Tables of dainties of rulers are a snare.
Tables of [[dainties]] of rulers are a [[snare]].


Intention are not good because they conform to our feelings. That would be an "if it fells good do it philosophy."
Intention are not good because they conform to our feelings. That would be an "if it fells good do it philosophy."
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The what does?
The what does?


How can we tell.?
How can we tell?


Tree of knowledge ?
[[Tree of knowledge]] ?
Or
Or
Tree of life?
 
[[Tree of life]]?


Save life?
Save life?
Or
Or
Sacrifice life?
Sacrifice life?




John 11:48 If we let him thus alone, all men will believe on him: and the Romans shall come and take away both our place and nation. 49 And one of them, named Caiaphas, being the high priest that same year, said unto them, Ye know nothing at all, 50 Nor consider that it is expedient for us, that one man should die for the people, and that the whole nation perish not. 51 And this spake he not of himself: but being high priest that year, he prophesied that Jesus should die for that nation;
[[John 11]]:48 If we let him thus alone, all men will believe on him: and the Romans shall come and take away both our place and nation. 49 And one of them, named Caiaphas, being the high priest that same year, said unto them, Ye know nothing at all, 50 Nor consider that it is expedient for us, that one man should die for the people, and that the whole nation perish not. 51 And this spake he not of himself: but being high priest that year, he prophesied that Jesus should die for that nation;


Dennis sees the 10 statements and what we call statutes as codes of actions.
Dennis sees the 10 statements and what we call statutes as codes of actions.
He says there is no restriction about lusting after the woman like Christ states
He says there is no restriction about lusting after the woman like Christ states
That approach reduces the 10 statements about the preexisting law of the creator to little more than branches of the tree of knowledge.
That approach reduces the 10 statements about the preexisting law of the creator to little more than branches of the [[tree of knowledge]].
 
It may alter your actions but not your soul.
It may alter your actions but not your soul.


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28:
Unless you are psychopath.
Unless you are psychopath.
31:30
31:30
Tyranny requires slavery.
Tyranny requires slavery.


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33:30
33:30
Hammurabi vs 10 statements
Hammurabi vs 10 statements


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50 chaos 54
50 chaos 54
God's many? Monotheistic.
God's many? Monotheistic.


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That force could be identified as the Holy Spirit which having the characteristics of "name" of The Monotheistic God of creation may overcome the influence of "fear and anger" which are merely the absence of the positive characteristics of "courage and love" which are allowed into us in the "micro" of our own mind and soul.
That force could be identified as the Holy Spirit which having the characteristics of "name" of The Monotheistic God of creation may overcome the influence of "fear and anger" which are merely the absence of the positive characteristics of "courage and love" which are allowed into us in the "micro" of our own mind and soul.


The "courage and love" come by way of the light of the Creator if we will let go of the denial that drove us from the tree of life, and accept the whole truth which requires the humility of forgiveness and the truth that you cannot decide "good and evil" for yourself with your own knowledge and certainly no for others.
The "courage and love" come by way of the light of the Creator if we will let go of the denial that drove us from the [[tree of life]], and accept the whole truth which requires the humility of forgiveness and the truth that you cannot decide "good and evil" for yourself with your own knowledge and certainly no for others.


Cain Able sacrifice.
Cain Able sacrifice.
Why  were they different?
Why  were they different?


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It was not what was given but the the way and function of their altars.
It was not what was given but the the way and function of their altars.


Genesis 4:6, 7 "And the LORD said unto Cain, Why art thou wroth? and why is thy countenance fallen? 7 If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him."
Genesis 4:6, 7 "And the LORD said unto Cain, Why art thou wroth? and why is thy countenance fallen? 7 If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him."
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There must be "order" in the micro which cannot come by our own design but by the Divine Will which Moses is trying to share and explain through the ten statements and judgements.
There must be "order" in the micro which cannot come by our own design but by the [[Divine Will]] which Moses is trying to share and explain through the ten statements and judgements.


Murder includes attack on the person
Murder includes attack on the person
Adultery is often religated to sexual congical relations violating marital cows but infact it includes all adulteration including national adultery.
 
[[Adultery]] is often relegated to sexual conjugal relations violating marital vows but in fact it includes all adulteration including national adultery.




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Property begins in the micro.
Property begins in the micro.


Even owning all things in common does not usurp individual rights because they own only as joint heirs in a legal system under God where they, in the micro as individual stones, cannot exercise authority one over the other.
Even owning all things in common does not usurp individual rights because they own only as joint heirs in a legal system under God where they, in the micro as individual stones, cannot exercise authority one over the other.  





Revision as of 22:58, 25 March 2023

NOT...Do not kill but rather do not murder

Ratsac murder

Harag kill

Surley put to death

Moses killed Egyptian

Cain killed Able ???

Jonathan thinks a lot of the punishments for braking the law is death.

First five commandments are about being a giver of life and liberty like the God of creation if we worship or serve that God.

The last five commandments are about not taking life or liberty from others or even desiring to do so by covering that life and liberty.

Tables of dainties of rulers are a snare.

Intention are not good because they conform to our feelings. That would be an "if it fells good do it philosophy."

Good intentions must conform to right reason, which is divine will which gives life.

Does the life of the many out way the life of the one, or does the life of the one out way the life of the many?

Which choice is good?

Out come in the short fall nor personal intent do not determine if a thing is good.

The what does?

How can we tell?

Tree of knowledge ? Or

Tree of life?

Save life?

Or

Sacrifice life?


John 11:48 If we let him thus alone, all men will believe on him: and the Romans shall come and take away both our place and nation. 49 And one of them, named Caiaphas, being the high priest that same year, said unto them, Ye know nothing at all, 50 Nor consider that it is expedient for us, that one man should die for the people, and that the whole nation perish not. 51 And this spake he not of himself: but being high priest that year, he prophesied that Jesus should die for that nation;

Dennis sees the 10 statements and what we call statutes as codes of actions.

He says there is no restriction about lusting after the woman like Christ states That approach reduces the 10 statements about the preexisting law of the creator to little more than branches of the tree of knowledge.

It may alter your actions but not your soul.

If they are just a matter of acting or not acting many cowards would be saints.

No one in the panel seems to see the outline of the nature of God as a key to the kingdom of God and his righteousness.

Commandments are self evident

28: Unless you are psychopath.

31:30

Tyranny requires slavery.

Reaping the tallest shoots

Wars

Jews were transnational

33:30

Hammurabi vs 10 statements

Tends to begin with individual tyranny.

From king but he does a new king


.... 43 God is telling us the patterns

45 6-10

46 adultery WHY!???

613 RULES ?? JUDGEMENTS??

50 chaos 54

God's many? Monotheistic.

To be THE GOD of creation would be by the Law of Nature or Right Reason a singular or mono source of any Divine Will. But if the original terms for "god", specifically "elohim" in the Hebrew and "theos" in the Greek, are the office of "ruling judges" of a limited jurisdiction then there are definably "gods many".

The "gods many" may have personalities or characteristics in different proportions which we can identify in the myths describing Greek or Norse gods like Thor and Loki.

The cultivation of anger, jealousy or any of these numerous characteristics may be a process of cultures and practices but that process is governed by the monotheistic God of gods.

59: When characteristic like fear and anger become a personality pattern through trauma and denial it creates a mental or motivational momentum within the corporeal identity of an individual that drags or catapults behavior as if it has a mind of its own.

We can observe these processes in dysphoria and psychosis like depression or OCD etc.

A "mimesis of malice" that may be observed has its own frequency pattern or "cosmic form" that begins in the "micro" but become predominant in a "macro" of a nation.

101 Dennis questions that fear and anger is an agency that controls our actions because then we have an excuse but Peterson makes reference to the fact he thinks there are other forces within you that may give you the ability to control the "fear and anger".

There are other forces but your choice is in calling upon them or opening up to that force which may over power fear and anger.

That force could be identified as the Holy Spirit which having the characteristics of "name" of The Monotheistic God of creation may overcome the influence of "fear and anger" which are merely the absence of the positive characteristics of "courage and love" which are allowed into us in the "micro" of our own mind and soul.

The "courage and love" come by way of the light of the Creator if we will let go of the denial that drove us from the tree of life, and accept the whole truth which requires the humility of forgiveness and the truth that you cannot decide "good and evil" for yourself with your own knowledge and certainly no for others.

Cain Able sacrifice.

Why were they different?

Both Praguer and Peterson think that the text does not say what was wrong with Cain's sacrifice.

It was not what was given but the the way and function of their altars.

Genesis 4:6, 7 "And the LORD said unto Cain, Why art thou wroth? and why is thy countenance fallen? 7 If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him."

What wroth? and countenance?

109:

If there is "an implicate cosmic order" from monotheistic macro to the heart and mind of the micro,individual, then when the microw rejects the "Name", "image", "character", "Holy Spirit" of The God the micro will create the laviathon, the Beast that goes about devouring who it wills.

110:

There must be "order" in the micro which cannot come by our own design but by the Divine Will which Moses is trying to share and explain through the ten statements and judgements.

Murder includes attack on the person

Adultery is often relegated to sexual conjugal relations violating marital vows but in fact it includes all adulteration including national adultery.


112: to not steal means there are property rights.

Property begins in the micro.

Even owning all things in common does not usurp individual rights because they own only as joint heirs in a legal system under God where they, in the micro as individual stones, cannot exercise authority one over the other.


Bearing false witness is not exclusive to the witness stand

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Coveting is not "an entirely internal act" as stated by James Blackwood.

Coveting is desiring what belongs to other people.

They never addressed legal charity which is certainly not "an entirely internal act" but is desiring what at least legally belong to another which is coveting

140: Pornography and sin.

To be my follower you must Hate your family is easier to understand if we can grasp that Hate is merely loving something less...

We are to live our neighbor and even our enemy and certainly our family but none should be loved more than the righteousness of God.

Commandments are not boundaries for which you are punished by a judgmental God.

They are the wise counsel of a loving Father and Creator of life.


145:

The ten statements while unique historically they are not entirely original.

Fear not for God has come to prove you, "test"??

Fear before your faces that you sin not.

Awe, respect, "cosmic"

Fear of God is the beginning of wisdom.

Here is how you worship Me... "Draw near".

God's of silver to me and gods of gold.

Make altars of unhewn stone.

Hewn stones are shaped by the will or hand of someone other than God or metaphorically regulated offices of living stones.

Their panel all seemed stumped by the command concerning altars of unhewn stones and not going up by steps to prevent the revealing of their nakedness.

This same nakedness will be mentioned in Exodus 28:42 "And thou shalt make them linen breeches to cover their nakedness; from the loins even unto the thighs they shall reach:" Of course the making of these breeches has nothing to do with making underwear but is again a metaphor.

154:

Peterson admit someone is missing that could give them the answer.

Dennis thinks this is about the sexualization of religion but that would be misleading to stop at that explanation even though it is about dominance which is often at the center of sexual perversion.

Much of their confusion comes from their blindness to what coveting means and how that appetite for benefits at the expenses of their neighbor is all around them in their own nations and certainly not limited to "communism".

Nakedness has to do with lack of exercising authority.

Their priests do not have an exercising authority. That is why they are naked just like Adam and Eve did not have the "authority" to decide what was "good and evil" with their own minds.

The priest did not have an exercising authority over each other or over the people but only over things given "freely".

If people do not understand the social structure and function of the altars of clay and stone and the duty of "religion" that rests wit the public servants of the people called priests in this free society they will be unable to make the distinction between "freewill sacrifice" and "forced sacrifices in the bondage of Egypt" they will become lost in their own theologies whether they be Jew or Gentile.

So those steps have to do with an hierarchy of exercising authority one over the other through a legal structure of men over other men.

Legal charity always includes that authority and is in opposition to these teachings of both Moses and Jesus who were in agreement.