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If these email forums were to be used properly the members would have contacted their chosen minister, who would already have intimate knowledge of their situation and needs... not just so they could receive aid but so that they could be of aid and even save others. | If these email forums were to be used properly the members would have contacted their chosen minister, who would already have intimate knowledge of their situation and needs... not just so they could receive aid but so that they could be of aid and even save others. | ||
: "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." John 3:16 | : "For God so loved the [[world]], that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." [[John 3]]:16 | ||
They would not only be congregating with one another out of love but the congregations would be expressing that love in word and deed for all the other congregations in a convention of congregations like the early church. | They would not only be congregating with one another out of love but the congregations would be expressing that love in word and deed for all the other congregations in a convention of congregations like the [[early church]]. | ||
Their minister would have taken the time to get to know all the other ministers and developed relationships of trust and honor through that [[Love]] and [[Charity]]. | Their minister would have taken the time to get to know all the other ministers and developed relationships of trust and honor through that [[Love]] and [[Charity]]. | ||
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Love is a responsibility | Love is a responsibility | ||
I do not think many people on these [[Network]] forums understand kingdom principles very well nor what real Christians used to do... If they did they would be working diligently to form [[CORE]] groups linked together with the love for one another Christ spoke of and commanded. | I do not think many people on these [[Network]] forums understand kingdom principles very well nor what real Christians used to do... If they did they would be working diligently to form [[CORE]] groups linked together with the love for one another that Christ spoke of and commanded. | ||
: Everyone should step back and think about how did the early Church do things?? | : Everyone should step back and think about how did the [[early Church]] do things?? | ||
: How did Christians survive the decline and fall of the [[Imperial Cult of Rome|Roman Empire]]...? | : How did Christians survive the decline and fall of the [[Imperial Cult of Rome|Roman Empire]]...? | ||
: How did Israel bind itself as a nation in a hostile world as the | : How did [[early Israel]] bind itself as a nation in a hostile world as the [[children of God]]? | ||
: The [[Christian conflict]] was not simply because they would not be a part of the Corban of Rome but because they had their own [[Daily ministration]]. | : The [[Christian conflict]] was not simply because they would not be a part of the [[Corban]] of [[Rome]] but because they had their own [[Daily ministration]]. | ||
: "And those who have among us help the needy; and we always keep together; and for all things wherewith we are supplied, we bless the Maker of all through His Son | : "And those who have among us, help the needy; and we always keep together; and for all things wherewith we are supplied, we bless the Maker of all through His Son Jesus Christ, and through the Holy Ghost." Chapter LXVII.—Weekly worship of the Christians. [http://www.documentacatholicaomnia.eu/03d/1819-1893,_Schaff._Philip,_1_Vol_01_The_Apostolic_Fathers,_EN.pdf '''The Apostolic Fathers with Justin Martyr''']. | ||
That is what we should be doing and using our | That is what we should be doing and using our talents, time or the things we hold so dear to produce the fruits of faith through the [[Sacrifice]] that Christ's nature requires, or else we should understand that Christ is not in us and we should expect not to be [[Cry out to be |heard by God]] or His people... | ||
We or our parents have become a [[Surety]] for debt. | We or our parents have become a [[Surety]] for debt. | ||
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[[Forgiveness|Forgive]] that ye may be forgiven. | [[Forgiveness|Forgive]] that ye may be forgiven. | ||
: "Repent therefore of this thy wickedness, and pray God, if perhaps the thought of thine heart may be forgiven thee." Acts 8:22 | : "Repent therefore of this thy wickedness, and pray to God, if perhaps the thought of thine heart may be forgiven thee." Acts 8:22 | ||
What we should be about is what Abraham, Moses and Jesus were about. | What we should be about is what Abraham, Moses and Jesus were about. | ||
Creating a system that provides social benefit for the [[Welfare|welfare]] of the people that provides for the needy, strengthens the poor and does so without ''exercising authority'' nor diminishing rights of our | Creating a system that provides social benefit for the [[Welfare|welfare]] of the people that provides for the needy, strengthens the poor and does so without ''exercising authority'' nor diminishing rights of our neighbors like the [[Benefactors]] who love to exercise authority one over the other. | ||
This is why we gather as one [[Church]] under Christ. If we are not doing that we are not [[His Church]]. | This is why we gather as one [[Church]] under Christ. If we are not doing that we are not [[His Church]]. | ||
To be that fruitful but [[Peculiar people]] who bear [[Fruit]] in the kingdom at hand the [[Freewill offerings]], [[Sacrifice]] and [[Fervent Charity]] of Christ should flow in every direction from us every day. | To be that fruitful but [[Peculiar people]] who bear [[Fruit]] in the kingdom at hand the [[Freewill offerings]], [[Sacrifice]] and [[Fervent Charity]] of Christ should flow in every direction from us every day. | ||
Someone wrote: | Someone wrote: | ||
: ''"I need a local kingdom supporting each other and that is what am trying to create, by meeting with a few men regularly and being the Kingdom to each other, hoping others will desire that also. I do | : ''"I need a local kingdom supporting each other and that is what am trying to create, by meeting with a few men regularly and being the Kingdom to each other, hoping others will desire that also. I do find the internet is sometimes good for helping offer solutions, as it is troubling when I have no solutions for others or myself."'' | ||
I have heard others talk about their local little group they are building. They just want to use our network to find more people or in hopes of getting some useful information that will help them and their little Group. | I have heard others talk about their local little group they are building. They just want to use our network to find more people or in hopes of getting some useful information that will help them and their little Group. | ||
Of course a local congregation is an important element but it falls short ... | Of course a local [[congregation]] is an important element but it falls short ... | ||
That is a part of kingdom but it is not kingdom. The kingdom of God is "a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, | That is a part of kingdom but it is not kingdom. The [[kingdom of God]] is "a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should show forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:" Kingdom is not a local congregation or club. | ||
It requires people to help people that are a long way off and may never be able to help them in return. The focus on a local group or congregation is actually anti-kingdom. | It requires people to help people that are a long way off and may never be able to help them in return. The focus on a local group or congregation is actually anti-kingdom. | ||
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Who do not try to help other congregations on a regular and dependable basis... | Who do not try to help other congregations on a regular and dependable basis... | ||
Are not seeking the kingdom but are burying their | Are not seeking the kingdom but are burying their talents... and are slothful in the ways of Christ. | ||
People need to repent of that thinking and start helping to build a network out of love of God and not merely to gather your friends or buddies to form your own little group. That attitude is what allowed for the inquisition. | People need to repent of that thinking and start helping to build a network out of the love of God and not merely to gather your friends or buddies to form your own little group. That attitude is what allowed for the inquisition. | ||
That is a [[Dry Bones]] approach that does not breathe the life of Christ into much of anything... | That is a [[Dry Bones]] approach that does not breathe the life of Christ into much of anything... | ||
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Latest revision as of 20:19, 5 September 2023
Do you really love one another like God commands?
If these email forums were to be used properly the members would have contacted their chosen minister, who would already have intimate knowledge of their situation and needs... not just so they could receive aid but so that they could be of aid and even save others.
- "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." John 3:16
They would not only be congregating with one another out of love but the congregations would be expressing that love in word and deed for all the other congregations in a convention of congregations like the early church.
Their minister would have taken the time to get to know all the other ministers and developed relationships of trust and honor through that Love and Charity.
If there was a need they would have made a discrete request for assistance and could have worked out the details of aid for the needy using that networking.
But many people are not forming congregations.
Why?
They are not taking the time to come together and actually love one another. They remain a scattered flock and Dry Bones
The Church has paid for medical bills, mortgage payments, provided shelter, food, personal counseling, emergency aid, travel expenses and provided health aid and care for people in congregations and others who warranted assistance.
If people were to become beloved members of a congregation aid would flow... shelter, aid or food could be provided as needed... also other benefits more numerous that can be listed...
There are all sorts of possibilities.
I usually do not give to people on the streets without asking questions because I need to give what is really needed in order to really love.
Love is a responsibility
I do not think many people on these Network forums understand kingdom principles very well nor what real Christians used to do... If they did they would be working diligently to form CORE groups linked together with the love for one another that Christ spoke of and commanded.
- Everyone should step back and think about how did the early Church do things??
- How did Christians survive the decline and fall of the Roman Empire...?
- How did early Israel bind itself as a nation in a hostile world as the children of God?
- The Christian conflict was not simply because they would not be a part of the Corban of Rome but because they had their own Daily ministration.
- "And those who have among us, help the needy; and we always keep together; and for all things wherewith we are supplied, we bless the Maker of all through His Son Jesus Christ, and through the Holy Ghost." Chapter LXVII.—Weekly worship of the Christians. The Apostolic Fathers with Justin Martyr.
That is what we should be doing and using our talents, time or the things we hold so dear to produce the fruits of faith through the Sacrifice that Christ's nature requires, or else we should understand that Christ is not in us and we should expect not to be heard by God or His people...
We or our parents have become a Surety for debt.
It is our fault.
STOP blaming others.
The system is a One purse system which became bankrupt while we and our parents were receiving benefits.
That would make you as a former beneficiary a Surety for debt.
It is the unrighteous Mammon and you are Merchandise.
STOP whining about it.
Forgive that ye may be forgiven.
- "Repent therefore of this thy wickedness, and pray to God, if perhaps the thought of thine heart may be forgiven thee." Acts 8:22
What we should be about is what Abraham, Moses and Jesus were about.
Creating a system that provides social benefit for the welfare of the people that provides for the needy, strengthens the poor and does so without exercising authority nor diminishing rights of our neighbors like the Benefactors who love to exercise authority one over the other.
This is why we gather as one Church under Christ. If we are not doing that we are not His Church.
To be that fruitful but Peculiar people who bear Fruit in the kingdom at hand the Freewill offerings, Sacrifice and Fervent Charity of Christ should flow in every direction from us every day.
Someone wrote:
- "I need a local kingdom supporting each other and that is what am trying to create, by meeting with a few men regularly and being the Kingdom to each other, hoping others will desire that also. I do find the internet is sometimes good for helping offer solutions, as it is troubling when I have no solutions for others or myself."
I have heard others talk about their local little group they are building. They just want to use our network to find more people or in hopes of getting some useful information that will help them and their little Group.
Of course a local congregation is an important element but it falls short ...
That is a part of kingdom but it is not kingdom. The kingdom of God is "a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should show forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:" Kingdom is not a local congregation or club.
It requires people to help people that are a long way off and may never be able to help them in return. The focus on a local group or congregation is actually anti-kingdom.
Yes we are spread out but some are beginning to see how important it is to find others who actually are seeking the kingdom. They know it is foolish and short-sighted just to seek a local group that can be there for you.
Those who are not seeking the lost sheep with a focus on the kingdom are actually holding back progress toward the kingdom. For any congregation to succeed the people need to care about the others of their congregation as much as themselves. For any Church to conform to the Church established by Christ every congregation will care about other congregations as much as their own.
That caring must be actual action.
People who do not form congregations of record...
Who do not pick a minister who meets with the other ministers in congregation...
Who do not try to help other congregations on a regular and dependable basis...
Are not seeking the kingdom but are burying their talents... and are slothful in the ways of Christ.
People need to repent of that thinking and start helping to build a network out of the love of God and not merely to gather your friends or buddies to form your own little group. That attitude is what allowed for the inquisition.
That is a Dry Bones approach that does not breathe the life of Christ into much of anything...
If you are on the email groups or have known us for some time and do not connect with a Congregation of Record you are providing testimony that you do not really care about us much.
If you are not contributing something and sharing with your minister of record regularly you are providing evidence that you are not with us.
If your minister of record is not helping Congregations gather in wider convention of congregations then you are clearly not with us.
So why should we help you if you have a need?
Should we help the Slothful?
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