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=== Greek conversations ===
=== Greek conversations ===


In the New Testament there are five different Greek words that are used eighteen times.  Thirteen times Strong’s word number 391 is used.  Two times Strong’s word number 390 is used.  And one time each is Strong’s word numbers 4175<Ref name="conversation-n">{{4175}}</Ref>, 4176<Ref name="conversation-v">{{4176}}</Ref> and 5158<Ref name="conversation-5">{{5158}}</Ref>, used.
In the New Testament there are five different Greek words that are used eighteen times.  Thirteen times Strong’s word number 391 is used.  Two times Strong’s word number 390 is used.  And one time each is Strong’s word numbers 4175<Ref name="conversation-n">{{4175}}</Ref>, 4176<Ref name="conversation-v">{{4176}}</Ref> and 5158<Ref name="tropo">{{5158}}</Ref>, used.


Strong’s word number 390 is used in [[2 Corinthians 1]]:12 and [[Ephesians 2]]:3.  Strong’s word number 390 is the Greek word “Anastrepho” and means to overturn, to return, to busy oneself, to conduct oneself, behave, live.
Strong’s word number 390 is used in [[2 Corinthians 1]]:12 and [[Ephesians 2]]:3.  Strong’s word number 390 is the Greek word “Anastrepho” and means to overturn, to return, to busy oneself, to conduct oneself, behave, live.

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Conversation in ancient text often meant far more than talking but had to do with how we enter acted within society, how we participated in society.

Past Conversations

The Hebrew and Greek words that are translated in modern Bible's as "conversation" often have totally different meanings than what comes to our minds when we read the word conversation in modern English text.

The word "conversation" should trigger in our minds a picture of "people of action", not merely "people of talk" for we are called to be doers of the word. The Hebrew and Greek words translated into conversation may have not only a literal meaning in the original languages but may signify legal relationships within the societies of their use at that time.

They may suggest a reciprocation of duties and obligations as well as superiority, subjection or equality depending upon the nature and manner of the conversation.

One conversation by its nature may lead to bondage and subjection while the other may lead to liberty and freedom.

English conversation

The English word conversation appears twenty times in the King James Version of the Bible.

The dictionary defines the conversation as,

1. a spoken exchange of thoughts, opinions and feelings; talk.
2. an informal discussion of a matter or an issue by representatives of governments, institutions, or organizations.
3. a real time interaction with a computer.[1]

Are these definitions common to people today?

But are these definitions the same as what the authors meant at the tme?

Hebrew conversations

Psalms 37:14 "The wicked[2] have drawn out the sword[3], and have bent their bow[4], to cast down the poor and needy, [and] to slay such as be of upright conversation."[5]

Psalms 50:23 Whoso offereth praise glorifieth me: and to him that ordereth [his] conversation [a right][5] will I shew[6] the salvation[7] of God.

The two times the word conversation appears in the Hebrew Old Testament are both in the book of Psalms translated from the root “Derek” spelled “Dalet-Reish-Kaf”.

The Hebrew word “Derek” is derived from the Hebrew word “resh-chets” meaning “a path”. As a verb the Hebrew word “Derek” means to tread, to take a step, a journey. As a noun the Hebrew word “Derek” means a road; a road that is walked, as well as the path, the path of life, way, toward, journey. A course of life, a mode of action, manner.

So when we read Psalms 37:14, “The wicked have drawn out the sword, and have bent their bow, to cast down the poor and needy, [and] to slay such as be of upright conversation.”

Instead of conversation as in “talking in the sense of a spoken exchange of thoughts, opinions or feelings”. We should read this as, “Those hostile and against God have opened, loosed and set free a laying waste, and have tread upon and marched forth in their might and power, to attack and overthrow the poor, humble, weak, lowly and needy, those delivered by God, those who suffer undeservedly for pious worship of God, [and] to slay, kill brutally and ruthlessly, such as walk or tread an upright, righteous, correct, pleasing and proper way or path of life.”

Psalms 50:23 reads, “Whoso offereth praise glorifieth me: and to him that ordereth [his] conversation] [aright] will I shew the salvation of God.” We can re-write this verse as, “Whoso offereth (a free will offering or sacrifice) praise (thanksgiving) glorifieth (give honor to) me: and to him that ordereth [his] conversation (walk or tread an upright, righteous, correct, pleasing and proper way or path of life) [aright] will I shew the salvation (victory, rescue, safety, deliverance, welfare, prosperity) of God.

Greek conversations

In the New Testament there are five different Greek words that are used eighteen times. Thirteen times Strong’s word number 391 is used. Two times Strong’s word number 390 is used. And one time each is Strong’s word numbers 4175[8], 4176[9] and 5158[10], used.

Strong’s word number 390 is used in 2 Corinthians 1:12 and Ephesians 2:3. Strong’s word number 390 is the Greek word “Anastrepho” and means to overturn, to return, to busy oneself, to conduct oneself, behave, live.

Strong’s word number 391 is used in Galatians 1:13, Ephesians 4:22, 1 Timothy 4:12, Hebrews 13:7, James 3:13, 1 Peter 1:15,18, 1 Peter 2:12, 1 Peter 3:1,2,16; 2 Peter 2:7, 2 Peter 3:11. Strong’s word number 391 is a the Greek word “Anastrophe” meaning literally a turning back and is translated manner of life, how one lives.

We can see that these two Greek words are very similar to the Hebrew word “Derek” a path of life, the road that we walk as we live. How we “behave” our “manner of life”, how we choose to live our lives is really how we should be translating the English word “conversation” in all of the previously mentioned verses in the Bible.

In Philippians 1:27 the English word “conversation” is translated from the Strong’s Greek word number 4176[9], and is the Greek word, “Politeuomai” and means “to behave as a citizen”; and is derived from the Greek word “politeuo” and means “to be a citizen” or “to live as a citizen”. “Politeuo” comes from “Polites” which is “a townsman, a citizen, a member of a city or a state, or the inhabitant of a country or district. “Polites” comes from “Polis” a town, a city, properly with walls, a town enclosed by walls. The definition of Politeuomai” also means “to administer civil affairs and manage the state”, “to avail one's self of or recognize the laws” and “to conduct one's self as pledged to some law of life.”

Philippians 1:27 reads, “Only let your conversation be as it becometh the gospel of Christ: that whether I come and see you, or else be absent, I may hear of your affairs, that ye stand fast in one spirit, with one mind striving together for the faith of the gospel;” And it could be read as, “But let your conduct as one pledged to obey God’s natural law of life be as a manner worthy of the reward for good tidings of the anointed King: so that if I come and see you, or else be absent, I may hear of your affairs, that ye stand fast in one set-apart, separate or ‘holy’ character/spirit, with one mind striving together in the fidelity and conviction of the glad tidings of the kingdom of God;”

In Philippians 3:20 the word is translated from the Strong’s Greek word number 4175[8] and is the Greek word “Politeuma” and means a “community” or “citizenship” and is derived from 4176 the same Greek word in Philippians 1:27.

Philippians 3:20 reads, “For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ:” And could read, “For our community and citizenship is under the vaulted expanse of the starry sky, the whole earth and the whole universe for YaHuWaH created it all; out of that, likewise we wait for the Prince who is the preserver, the deliverer, the one who saves, the Sovereign Master, Yahushua the Messiah (the Anointed) King.”

Hebrews 13:5 is the last verse that uses a different Strong’s Greek word number. Number 5158 is the Greek word, “Tropos” and means “a turn, mode or style”, “deportment or character”. Tropos as a noun means a turning, fashion, manner, character and way of life. Again we see this definition “a way of life and character”.

Hebrews 13:5 reads, “[Let your] conversation] [be] without covetousness; [and be] content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee.”

If you were not aware, in the King James version of the Bible any time we see words in brackets it means those words were not in the original scrolls or papyri, but were added by the translators. This could be a good thing, but a lot of the time it is not, it actually takes away and detracts from the original intent as the translators are trying to make the text more readable.

Hebrew 13:5, “The manner and character of life without covet ousness; satisfied and content, possessed with unfailing strength to be ready at hand: for he hath said, I will never give up, send back, let sink or leave thee, nor forsake, abandon or leave thee behind.”

What and where is your conversation?

Is it just to talk and speak an exchange of ideas, thoughts and feelings?

Or should your conversation be the character in which you walk your path and journey through life?

What does your conversation, the character in which you have chosen to walk out your life say about you thus far?

Are you content and satisfied possessed with unfailing strength, always ready at hand, being a citizen of the kingdom of God/heaven that is anywhere and everywhere under the vast expanse of the sky wherever two or three are gathered in His name, character, nature and spirit of righteousness, know that the King rules on his thrown forever and ever as the Creator, the loving forgiver and Father that never gives up on us, nor does He send us back, nor lets us sink and will never abandon or leave behind His citizens that walk out their lives following His path and way.

  1. ↑ The American Heritage Dictionary, Second College Edition on page 320
  2. ↑ Changes Hey to Chet Mem07563 עשׁר AyinShinReish rasha‘ raw-shaw’ from the verb 07561 AyinShinReish condemn; adj; {See TWOT on 2222 @@ "2222b"} AV-wicked 249, ungodly 8, wicked man 3, misc 3; 263
    1) wicked, criminal
    1a) guilty one, one guilty of crime (subst)
    1b) wicked (hostile to God)
    1c) wicked, guilty of sin (against God or man)
    • ע Ayin also U. Divine Providence "eye" or "fountain" of five states of kindness or severity. AlefYodNun or nothingness as opposed to AlefShin something [eye, watch] (Numeric value: 70)
    • ש Shin Eternal Flame of Revelation, bound to the coal of righteousness, the Divine Essence. [sun... teeth... consume destroy] (Numeric value: 300)
    • ר Reish Process of Clarification The "head" or "beginning". Life's revelation. [Head... Person head highest] (Numeric value: 200)
  3. ↑ Added a Mem and Yod02719 חֶרֶב‎ chereb [kheh’-reb] from 02717; n f; [BDB-352a] [{See TWOT on 732 @@ "732a" }] AV-sword 401, knife 5, dagger 3, axes 1, mattocks 1, TOOL 1, sword + 03027 1; 413
    1) sword, knife
    1a) sword
    1b) knife
    1c) tools for cutting stone
  4. ↑ Added a Mem07198 קֶשֶׁת‎ qesheth [keh’-sheth] from 07185 in the original sense of 06983 of bending; n f; [BDB-905b] [{See TWOT on 2093 }] AV-bow 68, archers + 03384 3, archers 2, archers + 01869 1, misc 3; 77
    1) bow
    1a) bow (for hunting, battle)
    1b) bowmen, archers
    1c) bow (fig. of might)
    1d) rainbow
  5. ↑ 5.0 5.1 01870 דֶּרֶךְ‎ derek [deh’-rek] DaletReishKaf from 01869 DaletReishKaf tread or bend; n m/n f; [BDB-202b] [{See TWOT on 453 @@ "453a" }] AV-way 590, toward 31, journey 23, manner 8, misc 53; 705
    1) way, road, distance, journey, manner
    1a) road, way, path
    1b) journey
    1c) direction
    1d) manner, habit, way
    1e) of course of life (fig.)
    1f) of moral character (fig.)
    • ד Dalet Selflessness – Charity, back and forth or through a door or pathway, to enter like a fish (Numeric value: 4)
    • ר Reish Process of Clarification The "head" or "beginning". Life's revelation. [Head... Person head highest] (Numeric value: 200)
    • כ ך Kaf K Crown: To Actualize Potential power from spiritual to physical realm [to cover, strength] (Numeric value: 20)
  6. ↑ AlefReishAlefNunVav
    07200 רָאָה‎ ReishAlefHey ra’ah [raw-aw’] a primitive root; v; [BDB-906a] [{See TWOT on 2095 }] AV-see 879, look 104, behold 83, shew 68, appear 66, consider 22, seer 12, spy 6, respect 5, perceive 5, provide 4, regard 4, enjoy 4, lo 3, foreseeth 2, heed 2, misc 74; 1313
    1) to see, look at, inspect, perceive, consider
    1a) (Qal)
    1a1) to see
    1a2) to see, perceive
    1a3) to see, have vision
    1a4) to look at, see, regard, look after, see after, learn about, observe, watch, look upon, look out, find out
    1a5) to see, observe, consider, look at, give attention to, discern, distinguish
    1a6) to look at, gaze at
    1b) (Niphal)
    1b1) to appear, present oneself
    1b2) to be seen
    1b3) to be visible
    1c) (Pual) to be seen
    1d) (Hiphil)
    1d1) to cause to see, show
    1d2) to cause to look intently at, behold, cause to gaze at
    1e) (Hophal)
    1e1) to be caused to see, be shown
    1e2) to be exhibited to
    1f) (Hithpael) to look at each other, face
  7. ↑ BeitYodShinAyin
    03468 יֶשַׁע‎ yesha‘ [yeh’-shah] orישׁע‎ yesha‘ [yay’-shah]from 03467; n m; [BDB-447a] [{See TWOT on 929 @@ "929a" }] AV-salvation 32, safety 3, saving 1; 36
    1) deliverance, salvation, rescue, safety, welfare
    1a) safety, welfare, prosperity
    1b) salvation
    1c) victory
  8. ↑ 8.0 8.1 4175 ~πολίτευμα~ politeuma \@pol-it’-yoo-mah\@ from 4176; n n AV-conversation 1; 1
    1) the administration of civil affairs or of a commonwealth
    2) the constitution of a commonwealth, form of government and the laws by which it is administered
    3) a state, commonwealth 3a) the commonwealth of citizens
  9. ↑ 9.0 9.1 4176 ~πολιτεύομαι~ politeuomai \@pol-it-yoo’-om-ahee\@ middle voice of a derivative of 4177 polites "the inhabitant of any city or country" from the word polis; v AV-live 1, let (one’s) conversation be 1; 2
    1) to be a citizen
    2) to administer civil affairs, manage the state
    3) to make or create a citizen 3a) to be a citizen 3b) to behave as a citizen 3b1) to avail one’s self of or recognise the laws 3b2) to conduct one’s self as pledged to some law of life"
  10. ↑ 5158 τρόπος tropos [trop’-os] from the same as 5157; n m; AV-as + 3739 3, even as + 2596 + 3739 2, way 2, means 2, even as + 3739 1, in like manner as + 3639 1, manner 1, conversation 1; 13
    1) a manner, way, fashion
    1a) as, even as, like as
    2) manner of life, character, deportment
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