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: 2) a term of rank or office
: 2) a term of rank or office(Was this just an office of the family? Were they appointing elders of families to the offices of the Church?)
::    2a) among the Jews
::    2a) among the Jews
:::    2a1) members of the great council or Sanhedrin (because in early times the rulers of the people, judges, etc., were    selected from elderly men)
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In the Church those [[Elders]] elected to the offices of the Church and or [[Ordain]]ed may not exercise authority over the people like the [[Benefactors]] of the [[World]] or they will cease to be [[His Church]]. The [[Corban]] of the [[Church]] must remain the result of [[Faith]], [[Hope]] and [[Charity]] through the [[Perfect law of liberty]].
In the Church those [[Elders]] elected to the offices of the Church and or [[Ordain]]ed may not exercise authority over the people like the [[Benefactors]] of the [[World]] or they will cease to be [[His Church]]. The [[Corban]] of the [[Church]] must remain the result of [[Faith]], [[Hope]] and [[Charity]] through the [[Perfect law of liberty]].


While an [[Elder]] is first Father and Husband to his own family he does not usurp that role in the families he may serve when elected to an office of the Church. He is not a ''conscripted Father'' like the ''[[Fathers]] of the earth'' nor ''substitute Father'' or Husband to other families. He is a minister to the people of the offerings entrusted to him for the purposes of Christ.
While an [[Elders|Elder]] is first Father and Husband to his own family he does not usurp that role in the families he may serve when elected to an office of the Church. He is not a ''conscripted Father'' like the ''[[Fathers]] of the earth'' nor ''substitute Father'' or Husband to other families. He is a minister to the people of the offerings entrusted to him for the purposes of Christ.


According to [[Diocletianic_Persecution|Diocletian]] second edict it targeted "deacons, lectors, priests, and bishops" in 300 A.D. before the corruption of the church of [[Constantine]]. [[Deacon]]s were ministers of tens. [[Priests]] in the kingdom did not rule over the people but they did rule over the votive offerings of the people. In the world the priests force the contributions of the people because they do rule over others.
According to [[Diocletianic_Persecution|Diocletian]] second edict it targeted "deacons, lectors, priests, and bishops" in 300 A.D. before the corruption of the church of [[Constantine]]. [[Deacon]]s were ministers of tens. [[Priests]] in the kingdom did not rule over the people but they did rule over the votive offerings of the people. In the world the priests force the contributions of the people because they do rule over others.


[[Bishops]] were merely overseers and servants of servants. But what were lectors? One simplistic definition was a ''reader of liturgy'' and what was ''liturgy''?
[[Bishop]]s were merely overseers and servants of servants. But what were lectors? One simplistic definition was a ''reader of liturgy''. A ''liturgical book'' was a book published by the authority of a church, that contains the text and directions for the [[liturgy]] of its official [[Religion|religious services]].


What was ''[[liturgy]]''?


Every minister is the overseer of what he receives on behalf of Christ but connected by that common<Ref>Acts 2:44  And all that believed were together, and had all things common;
[[Liturgy]] was ''public service'' to the congregations of the people who looked to the [[Church legally defined|Church as "one form of government"]]. The [[Church]] was the [[Benefactors]] who did not exercise authority one over the other. They could only do this if the people loved each other enough to contribute regularly to the ministers.
Acts 4:32  And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common.</Ref> possessions of Christ.


Again this is clarified in [[1 Timothy]] 3<Ref>1 Timothy 3:1 This is a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work.
The original ''liturgical book'' were the records kept by the Church such as Marriage and birth and death records needed to provide service for the people and their families. This was one of the first thing that was burned during the [[Diocletianic Persecution]]. But because of the intimate nature of the network that formed the who church and congregations in general the Christians were not deterred. Then their edicts took the lives of the leaders but that did not send the Christians into chaos because the Kingdom of God was from generation to generation and was driven from the ground up, from the head of each family. So the final attempt was to round up the Christians themselves murdering men, women and children. We would not see such horrors again until the inquisition.
 
Public support waned and [[Constantine]] sought a new remedy for the financial decay of the Empire. He literally started a new Church which would rise to power with the kings at the turn of the Millennium.
 
 
== The Free Form of government ==
 
 
Every minister is the overseer of what he receives on behalf of Christ but connected by that common<Ref>[[Acts 2]]:44  And all that believed were together, and had all things common;
[[Acts 4]]:32  And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common.</Ref> possessions of Christ.
 
Again this is clarified in [[1 Timothy 3]]<Ref>1 Timothy 3:1 This is a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work.
2  A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;
2  A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;
3  Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous;
3  Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous;

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Minister Qualifications

The ministers of the early Church were elected by the people from the pool of natural Elders of families to serve a purpose and mission in the Church. Those natural Elders were the heads of families who ministered to their families while learning to care for their neighbor's families as much as they cared for their own.

Titus 1:5 "For this cause left I thee in Crete, that thou shouldest set in order the things that are wanting, and ordain[1] elders in every city, as I had appointed thee:"

We see a list of qualification that should be looked for in choosing a minister of the Church in Titus 1.[2] and Titus 2[3]

There is a reference to "aged men" which is translated from the word presbutes [4] Which can also mean ambassador ans is from the word presbuteros [5]

The word Senator in Rome meant old men before it became an office of the State. At first they had little power because Rome was a Republic but later as the people became slothful in the ways of liberty the Senate like we see in the Sanhedrin became an office of power.

In the Church those Elders elected to the offices of the Church and or Ordained may not exercise authority over the people like the Benefactors of the World or they will cease to be His Church. The Corban of the Church must remain the result of Faith, Hope and Charity through the Perfect law of liberty.

While an Elder is first Father and Husband to his own family he does not usurp that role in the families he may serve when elected to an office of the Church. He is not a conscripted Father like the Fathers of the earth nor substitute Father or Husband to other families. He is a minister to the people of the offerings entrusted to him for the purposes of Christ.

According to Diocletian second edict it targeted "deacons, lectors, priests, and bishops" in 300 A.D. before the corruption of the church of Constantine. Deacons were ministers of tens. Priests in the kingdom did not rule over the people but they did rule over the votive offerings of the people. In the world the priests force the contributions of the people because they do rule over others.

Bishops were merely overseers and servants of servants. But what were lectors? One simplistic definition was a reader of liturgy. A liturgical book was a book published by the authority of a church, that contains the text and directions for the liturgy of its official religious services.

What was liturgy?

Liturgy was public service to the congregations of the people who looked to the Church as "one form of government". The Church was the Benefactors who did not exercise authority one over the other. They could only do this if the people loved each other enough to contribute regularly to the ministers.

The original liturgical book were the records kept by the Church such as Marriage and birth and death records needed to provide service for the people and their families. This was one of the first thing that was burned during the Diocletianic Persecution. But because of the intimate nature of the network that formed the who church and congregations in general the Christians were not deterred. Then their edicts took the lives of the leaders but that did not send the Christians into chaos because the Kingdom of God was from generation to generation and was driven from the ground up, from the head of each family. So the final attempt was to round up the Christians themselves murdering men, women and children. We would not see such horrors again until the inquisition.

Public support waned and Constantine sought a new remedy for the financial decay of the Empire. He literally started a new Church which would rise to power with the kings at the turn of the Millennium.


The Free Form of government

Every minister is the overseer of what he receives on behalf of Christ but connected by that common[6] possessions of Christ.

Again this is clarified in 1 Timothy 3[7] for Ministers of 10 called Deacons[8]


(Titus 1:6; 1 Tim 3:2).



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Footnotes

  1. 2525 ~καθίστημι~ kathistemi \@kath-is’-tay-mee\@ from 2596 and 2476; v AV-make 8, make ruler 6, ordain 3, be 2, appoint 1, conduct 1, set 1; 22
    1) to set, place, put
    1a) to set one over a thing (in charge of it)
    1b) to appoint one to administer an office
    1c) to set down as, constitute, to declare, show to be
    1d) to constitute, to render, make, cause to be
    1e) to conduct or bring to a certain place
    1f) to show or exhibit one’s self
    1f1) come forward as
    Ordain#An_Appointment_Ex_Officio
  2. Titus 1:6 :If any be blameless, the husband of one wife, having faithful children not accused of riot or unruly. 7 For a bishop must be blameless, as the steward of God; not selfwilled, not soon angry, not given to wine, no striker, not given to filthy lucre; 8 But a lover of hospitality, a lover of good men, sober, just, holy, temperate; 9 Holding fast the faithful word as he hath been taught, that he may be able by sound doctrine both to exhort and to convince the gainsayers. 10 For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers, specially they of the circumcision: 11 Whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole houses, teaching things which they ought not, for filthy lucre’s sake. 12 One of themselves, even a prophet of their own, said, The Cretians are alway liars, evil beasts, slow bellies. 13 This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith; 14 Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth. 15 Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled. 16 They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.
  3. Titus 2:1 But speak thou the things which become sound doctrine: 2 That the aged men be sober, grave, temperate, sound in faith, in charity, in patience. 3 The aged women likewise, that they be in behaviour as becometh holiness, not false accusers, not given to much wine, teachers of good things; 4 That they may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children, 5 To be discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God be not blasphemed. 6 Young men likewise exhort to be sober minded. 7 In all things shewing thyself a pattern of good works: in doctrine shewing uncorruptness, gravity, sincerity, 8 Sound speech, that cannot be condemned; that he that is of the contrary part may be ashamed, having no evil thing to say of you. 9 Exhort servants to be obedient unto their own masters, and to please them well in all things; not answering again; 10 Not purloining, but shewing all good fidelity; that they may adorn the doctrine of God our Saviour in all things.
  4. 4246 ~πρεσβύτης~ presbutes \@pres-boo’-tace\@ from the same as 4245; n m AV-old man 1, aged man 1, aged 1; 3 1) an old man, an aged man 2) ambassador
  5. 4245 ~πρεσβύτερος~ presbuteros \@pres-boo’-ter-os\@ comparative of presbus (elderly); adj AV-elder 64, old man 1, eldest 1, elder woman 1; 67
    1) elder, of age,
    1a) the elder of two people
    1b) advanced in life, an elder, a senior
    1b1) forefathers
    2) a term of rank or office(Was this just an office of the family? Were they appointing elders of families to the offices of the Church?)
    2a) among the Jews
    2a1) members of the great council or Sanhedrin (because in early times the rulers of the people, judges, etc., were selected from elderly men)
    2a2) of those who in separate cities managed public affairs and administered justice
    2b) among the Christians, those who presided over the assemblies; (or churches) the NT uses the term bishop, overseers, 1985 pastors, 4166 elders, and presbyters 4245 interchangeably {#Ac 20:17,28 Eph 4:11 Titus 1:5,7 1Pe 5:1-4 etc.}
    2c) the twenty four members of the heavenly Sanhedrin or court seated on thrones around the throne of God
  6. Acts 2:44 And all that believed were together, and had all things common; Acts 4:32 And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common.
  7. 1 Timothy 3:1 This is a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work. 2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach; 3 Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous; 4 One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity; 5 (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?) 6 Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil. 7 Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil. 8 ¶ Likewise must the deacons be grave, not doubletongued, not given to much wine, not greedy of filthy lucre; 9 Holding the mystery of the faith in a pure conscience. 10 And let these also first be proved; then let them use the office of a deacon, being found blameless. 11 Even so must their wives be grave, not slanderers, sober, faithful in all things. 12 Let the deacons be the husbands of one wife, ruling their children and their own houses well. 13 For they that have used the office of a deacon well purchase to themselves a good degree, and great boldness in the faith which is in Christ Jesus.
  8. Deacon: The word deacon means leader of ten. Leadership in the Church is by service. In the Greek the word diakonos means servant or Ministers. Minister is the Latin word for doer of little deeds. Minister is a generic term that includes all who serve others, whether deacon, bishop, archbishop or other.